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anoninnyc
01-10-2007, 01:09 AM
I hate all Iranians, US aide tells MPs
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Britsh MPs visiting the Pentagon to discuss America's stance on Iran and Iraq were shocked to be told by one of President Bush's senior women officials: "I hate all Iranians."
And she also accused Britain of "dismantling" the Anglo-US-led coalition in Iraq by pulling troops out of Basra too soon.
The all-party group of MPs say Debra Cagan, Deputy Assistant Secretary for Coalition Affairs to Defence Secretary Robert Gates, made the comments this month.
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Hard line: Debra Cagan stunned the MPs with her comments
The six MPs were taken aback by the hardline approach of the Pentagon and in particular Ms Cagan, one of Mr Bush's foreign policy advisers.
She made it clear that although the US had no plans to attack Iran, it did not rule out doing so if the Iranians ignored warnings not to develop a nuclear bomb.
It was her tone when they met her on September 11 that shocked them most.
The MPs say that at one point she said: "In any case, I hate all Iranians."
Although it was an aside, it was not out of keeping with her general demeanour.
"She seemed more keen on saying she didn't like Iranians than that the US had no plans to attack Iran," said one MP. "She did say there were no plans for an attack but the tone did not fit the words."
Another MP said: "I formed the impression that some in America are looking for an excuse to attack Iran. It was very alarming."
Tory Stuart Graham, who was on the ten-day trip, would not discuss Ms Cagan but said: "It was very sobering to hear from the horse's mouth how the US sees the situation."
Ms Cagan, whose job involves keeping the coalition in Iraq together, also criticised Britain for pulling out troops.
"She said if we leave the south of Iraq, the Iranians will take it over," said one MP.
Another said: "She is very forceful and some of my colleagues were intimidated by her muscular style."
The MPs also saw Henry Worcester, Deputy Director of the Office of Iranian Affairs, who said he favoured talks with Iran.
The Pentagon denied Ms Cagan said she "hated" Iranians.
"She doesn't speak that way," said an official.
But when The Mail on Sunday spoke to four of the six MPs, three confirmed privately that she made the remark and one declined to comment. The other two could not be contacted.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=484762&in_page_id=1770
anoninnyc
01-10-2007, 01:13 AM
As many of you know, I am Iranian. I am just a human being like any of you. I am not a terrorist, I am a person with a family, friends, a life just like anyone. I have friends of various races and nationalities as I don't judge people based upon something silly like that that they have no control over anyway. I am very worried and upset about this sentiment. So this woman hates me and does not even know me. What kind of a person does that? And I believe that she said it, why would the British make this up?
megafish33
01-10-2007, 01:59 AM
So this woman hates me and does not even know me. What kind of a person does that? And I believe that she said it, why would the British make this up?
There are many reasons the British could use to make it up for. Like you though, I'm inclined to believe that she said it.
Welcome to the world we live in... people will hate you for even more absurd reasons. Don't let it get to you though... The hate they're spewing is an act of terrorism in itself. Fuck them and keep living your life! Stay alive and teach your children to love everyone and not to discriminate.
trumansho
01-10-2007, 02:31 AM
As many of you know, I am Iranian. I am just a human being like any of you. I am not a terrorist, I am a person with a family, friends, a life just like anyone. I have friends of various races and nationalities as I don't judge people based upon something silly like that that they have no control over anyway. I am very worried and upset about this sentiment. So this woman hates me and does not even know me. What kind of a person does that? And I believe that she said it, why would the British make this up?
yea man being black I can feel you on that.
anoninnyc
01-10-2007, 03:02 AM
Thanks to both of you. Yeah, whatever, I will just let it roll off my back. Nothing I can do about it. Some people just suck. Lots of other racial and ethnic groups have to deal with this stupidity as well.
aitch
01-10-2007, 03:21 AM
As many of you know, I am Iranian.Dude you are one lucky mofo !! Iranian women are hot !! That's probably why she said it ..... cos she's jealous !! :p
horus21
01-10-2007, 03:35 AM
I understand being hated upon as well. One time I was getting dinner from a take away shop in an old area i used to live and work in, I was extremly well knowen there. It was around the time Israel attacked lebanon for no reason... and im a businessman... so im ordering my food and I have the duty of representing the business I worked for and the family so whomever looked familiar I would say Hello sir how are you, as one would.
To the left of me there was a man eating around 2 meters from me, with a Jewish skull cap on,I said hello sir to be on the safe side and in the middle of the resteraunt he says FUCK OFF WOG....
I was a little dumbfounded but sais who the FUCK tdo you think you are... anyway he gets up leaves his food and goes out side... Im thinkin ok its on now... I worked opposite that ande i didnt follow him straighrt away.. I took the food back to my father whom was waiting for me, quickly told him what happened and thought to myhself fuck it im going to find him. (sstupidly). I go outside to see if I can see him, and im focusing around 200 meters down the off street of the take away shop this happened in, then i see and hear somthin which was closer to me, he was right in front of me on the other side of the road with his hands out.,... I snapped I was swearing in the street mind you everybody knew me and never saw me like that... Im calling him You dirty SLUT come here I was angry... He didnt come to me and walked off..... to cut a long story short nothing happened, and eventhough im famous in the area nobody asked if I was ok or anything. nobody seemed to know,.... Now the twist... around 2-3weeks later theres a murder down the road, A jew was killed and the Headlines were Gang of my suburb responsible for killing JEW... whom was around trhe same age of the bloke i had that little run in with. Im thinking did somebody kill him for me... u know,, is it the same bloke.. I was confused and stuff as u can imagine.. But then locals and shopkeepers people from the area started to treatme diffferently, it was HELL for a while and I wasnt paranoid because I know what i sewnse, on top of that the Butcher was cool, anwyay id go in the back for a beer and what not with em on aoccasion, aside from everybody looking at me like an alien one of them kept calling me 'killer'/// Id just shake it off because as you can imagine the damage it will cause for business especially in a mainly jewish area... The burtcher then turned up fired....
In the end i got jout of there for unrelated reasons.;.. But I know how things feel, on different levels too.
Good luck ppl and dont let anything get to you.
horus21
01-10-2007, 03:41 AM
Dude you are one lucky mofo !! Iranian women are hot !! That's probably why she said it ..... cos she's jealous !! :p
Tell me about it, the only girl I loved in my life was persian, but I fucked it up...and learnt from it. Im Kurdish too so I got a weak spot for them... so if they wantedf to kill me I suppose they know what would work now huh..lol
Send me 10 of them and u can kill me, anything less and go fuck urself mr cia
1 2 free
01-10-2007, 10:39 AM
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=554201962695917482
This is a great documentary to show people some of the Iran that we never get to see.
john white
01-10-2007, 11:42 AM
It's worth having a look at the fascist creature in question:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9329/reppiecandidatetn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spot any dead-give-aways anyone?
Its kind of cute that some niave MP's got their bubbles prodded a little
resistance
01-10-2007, 11:55 AM
Don't worry or be upset about the fascist bitch hating Iranians, that means your doing something right, anyway she probably hates most people, including her own.
horus21
01-10-2007, 12:08 PM
Were earthlings anyway... we need to understand this in order to spin this earth in a unified tranquil accord of will, any kind of division will only funnel out any true tactics which can be used globally into the hands of greed and deciet.
anoninnyc
01-10-2007, 05:02 PM
It's worth having a look at the fascist creature in question:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9329/reppiecandidatetn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spot any dead-give-aways anyone?
Its kind of cute that some niave MP's got their bubbles prodded a little
isn't that some kind of nazi cross around her neck? that is what you are referring to, no?
and is it just me or does she look more like a man than a woman, and why is she dressed up like michael jackson, anyway? a bit unprofessional for a politician.
thanks for all of the kind responses on this thread. and horus21, that is a terrible story. but not an uncommon unfortunately.
john white
01-10-2007, 05:36 PM
Maltese cross, leather fetish and (not that i often say things like this) possibly displaying particular genetic traits that might explain her attitudes through commonly related cultural psycho-indocrination?
Kind of scaly-looking too!
anoninnyc
01-10-2007, 06:04 PM
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=554201962695917482
This is a great documentary to show people some of the Iran that we never get to see.
good video
charles d ward
01-10-2007, 06:51 PM
It's worth having a look at the fascist creature in question:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9329/reppiecandidatetn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spot any dead-give-aways anyone?
Its kind of cute that some niave MP's got their bubbles prodded a little
Jesus fuckin christ!!! No wonder she´s pissed off at the world. Imagine to wake up every morning and see THAT in the mirror.
synergy777
01-10-2007, 06:58 PM
isn't that some kind of nazi cross around her neck? that is what you are referring to, no?
and is it just me or does she look more like a man than a woman, and why is she dressed up like michael jackson, anyway? a bit unprofessional for a politician
that was some funny shit, lol nice 1.
no serious politician should dress like thats, its hideous. shes a masonic drag queen, lol
as anon/horus, its natural be at peace with it. racists are merely uninformed dinosaurs, i shouldn't let the opinions of dumbfucks bother you. in fact view it as funny, the deluded actions of people who are zombies. i put racists in the same catergory as flat earthers.
john white
01-10-2007, 07:26 PM
shes a masonic drag queen
ROFL!
resistance
01-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Fuk mi! she looks like the wicked witch of the west from the wizard of oz:eek: a bit of green face paint and... spooky.
anoninnyc
01-10-2007, 07:44 PM
that was some funny shit, lol nice 1.
no serious politician should dress like thats, its hideous. shes a masonic drag queen, lol
as anon/horus, its natural be at peace with it. racists are merely uninformed dinosaurs, i shouldn't let the opinions of dumbfucks bother you. in fact view it as funny, the deluded actions of people who are zombies. i put racists in the same catergory as flat earthers.
i wasn't even trying to be funny..... i am freaking serious. i guess i am just really lucky that i don't look like that. you know, in iran, the government pays for sex change operations.... maybe she is just pissed that she had to pay out of pocket in america. she looks crazy so i guess i shouldn't take her comments too seriously. masonic drag queen just about sums it up.
nickatnoon61
02-10-2007, 04:57 AM
Jesus fuckin christ!!! No wonder she´s pissed off at the world. Imagine to wake up every morning and see THAT in the mirror.
yes charles, and it is even uglier inside!!! Another Jewish American Princess,(JAP) how loverly!!!!! :rolleyes:
nickatnoon61
02-10-2007, 05:17 AM
I googled her name and got this site. Some intresting comments, like this one......She looks like she's about to shift.
9/30/2007 7:52 PM
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Attention all Christians, all denominations.
Quote
To all Christians; please look at your government and government officials and see who they really are.
Wake up!!!!!
You don't really want a war with Iran, do you?????????
Forgive one another.
Check this link out.
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Check out what she is wearing.
You better wake up or pretty soon everyone will be suffering.
Peace , Love and Truth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305847
9/30/2007 7:54 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
She looks like she's about to shift.
fsda
User ID: 304590
9/30/2007 7:58 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
It's red-eye from not using a double-flash
for the camera. The first closes the pupil
so the second won't reflect from the shiny
stuff in the back of the eye.
Is that a maltese cross or whatever
ya call it?
starlight_afar
User ID: 94505
9/30/2007 7:58 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
We the people cannot stop what our President and Congress decide to do, we know we were lied about Iraq so why allow them to keep lying to you. Take a stand, I recall the movie V For Vendetta when a huge number united the Leader was powerless.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305860
9/30/2007 7:59 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
"She" looks like a man. One thing for sure, "she" is a Jew.
.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305878
9/30/2007 8:00 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
THAT'S A MAN!!!
WHAT A KINKY TRANSEXUAL SNEAKY SAUSAGE PACKIN LOOKIN KINDA NAZI.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243632
9/30/2007 8:02 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
To all Christians; please look at your government and government officials and see who they really are.
Wake up!!!!!
You don't really want a war with Iran, do you?????????
Forgive one another.
Check this link out.
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Check out what she is wearing.
You better wake up or pretty soon everyone will be suffering.
Peace , Love and Truth.
Quoting: jackanarchist 183770
Whoa! It looks like a quasi bull dyke tranny!
Cagan---->
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 224770
9/30/2007 8:03 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
looks like Tony Robbins in drag
fuck
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305878
9/30/2007 8:05 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
COUNTLESS OTHERS LIKE HER WHO CAN'T EVEN DRESS OR PRESENT THEMSELVES IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER, AND THEY'RE RUNNING THE WORLD.
NICE.
FUCKING.
FREAKSHOW.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305847
9/30/2007 8:12 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
Is that a maltese cross or whatever
ya call it?
Quoting: fsda 304590
A big one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 243632
9/30/2007 8:12 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
COUNTLESS OTHERS LIKE HER WHO CAN'T EVEN DRESS OR PRESENT THEMSELVES IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER, AND THEY'RE RUNNING THE WORLD.
NICE.
FUCKING.
FREAKSHOW.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305878
From the article:
Debra Cagan stunned the MPs with her comments
FUCK! It looks like a hybrid hermorphrodite/bisexual/bull dyke tranny!
Man, we're super fucked!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305138
9/30/2007 8:16 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
Quote:
"To all Christians; please look at your government and government officials and see who they really are."
So what in the world do Christians have to do with THIS nonsense?
Eh??
jackanarchist
User ID: 183770
9/30/2007 8:24 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
Quote:
"To all Christians; please look at your government and government officials and see who they really are."
So what in the world do Christians have to do with THIS nonsense?
Eh??
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305138
Well, The president of the United States corporation claims to be one.
Read the bible again.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305872
9/30/2007 8:31 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
It's a Catholic maltese cross like Hitler used to wear.
George Bush is not Christian, but serves the Pope!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305860
9/30/2007 8:49 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
The she/he was wearing RED. Look for that color to be displayed on the big-wigs wearing red ties, red scarves, red jackets, red dresses. They are celebrating something called a "Red Mass".
.
asfd
User ID: 304590
9/30/2007 9:42 PM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
THAT'S A MAN!!!
WHAT A KINKY TRANSEXUAL SNEAKY SAUSAGE PACKIN LOOKIN KINDA NAZI.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305878
No. She is female.
chiptruth nli
User ID: 299283
10/1/2007 7:00 AM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
Quote:
"To all Christians; please look at your government and government officials and see who they really are."
So what in the world do Christians have to do with THIS nonsense?
Eh??
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305138
CRUSADES
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 292560
10/1/2007 7:45 AM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
You stink of the talmud,are the lambs still crying?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 306077
10/1/2007 9:56 AM
Re: Attention all Christians, all denominations. Quote
It's a Catholic maltese cross like Hitler used to wear.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305872
The Queen's got a nice collection too.
George Bush is not Christian, but serves the Pope!
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305872
peachped
02-10-2007, 05:22 AM
Does indeed look like a bloke.
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2120/pentagonmxt0.jpg
majicdragon
02-10-2007, 07:04 AM
Thanks to both of you. Yeah, whatever, I will just let it roll off my back. Nothing I can do about it. Some people just suck. Lots of other racial and ethnic groups have to deal with this stupidity as well.
You do have it bad right now because the people in power are for sure racists... and then there is the "trickle-down" to the stupid-people who are not in power.
For this reason, I wish I weren't a white person. Then I think the few white people who go against the grain... and it doesn't make me feel much better.
kasalt
02-10-2007, 10:26 AM
It's worth having a look at the fascist creature in question:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9329/reppiecandidatetn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spot any dead-give-aways anyone?
Another piece to the puzzle, perhaps: The cross she is wearing is the Commander's Cross Order of Merit of the Republic of Hungary, awarded to Cagen in 2005.
bicycle
02-10-2007, 11:27 AM
Just another one of those unelected advisors.
Looks like she is struggling to hold her human form:eek:
It seems to me that they are behind schedual with Iran and are very wary using another false flag operation as most Americans have now wised up to 9/11.
anoninnyc
02-10-2007, 01:57 PM
yes charles, and it is even uglier inside!!! Another Jewish American Princess,(JAP) how loverly!!!!! :rolleyes:
i have nothing against jewish people. i have jewish friends in fact. i do not approve of zionism, in fact i find it evil because it is racist. i am not better or worse than anyone else because of the ethnicity that i happen to be born as.
eternal_spirit
02-10-2007, 02:11 PM
Does indeed look like a bloke.
http://img476.imageshack.us/img476/2120/pentagonmxt0.jpg
..........
I agree.....I've had this theory for many years when i used to watch the News and current affairs programmes, there are many of them out there.
tiswas
02-10-2007, 07:12 PM
She looks like the sister of Jaws from 'The Spy who loved Me', which is a good film.......for its time.
nickatnoon61
02-10-2007, 09:48 PM
..........
I agree.....I've had this theory for many years when i used to watch the News and current affairs programmes, there are many of them out there.
What theory is that ES? The newspeople are all "Sweet Transvestites From Transylvania"???? ha ha
mountain
03-10-2007, 05:04 AM
Kin to the Windsors? She has Prince Charles ears!
synak
03-10-2007, 06:42 AM
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9329/reppiecandidatetn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Wtf is that??? lol
Creature from the Masonic lagoon?
Kin to the Windsors? She has Prince Charles ears!
LMFAO
mountain
03-10-2007, 06:50 AM
It's worth having a look at the fascist creature in question:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9329/reppiecandidatetn4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spot any dead-give-aways anyone?
Its kind of cute that some niave MP's got their bubbles prodded a little
LOOK AT HER EYES!!!! Her right eye is looking down and the left straight across! looks like 2 different colors. DAMN!
synak
03-10-2007, 11:15 AM
LOOK AT HER EYES!!!! Her right eye is looking down and the left straight across! looks like 2 different colors. DAMN!
Didn't notice that before, creepy. I've seen John Kerry do the same thing with his eyes lately too.
Creature from the Masonic lagoon?
mountain
03-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Where she come from? Isn't it odd that these figures just seem to pop out of nowhere?
woghd
04-10-2007, 05:06 AM
Good lord jesus mary joseph!
Does anyone know of any video on this...erm...woman?
Archangel
nickatnoon61
04-10-2007, 05:29 AM
Good lord jesus mary joseph!
Does anyone know of any video on this...erm...woman?
Archangel Woggy,
I think she was an extra in "Elephant Man" :eek:..."I am not an animal....er Reptile"!!! :D
nickatnoon61
04-10-2007, 05:32 AM
Where she come from? Isn't it odd that these figures just seem to pop out of nowhere?
Yep mountain, she just "popped" in from the Lower 4th dimension, spread a little hate, then back!!!! ha ha