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Anders Lindman
30-09-2007, 09:32 PM
Could it be that France has control over the world? France speaks of Iran as a threat but possibly they are just playing a game. Remember, Iran is moving to the euro (if they have not already done so) for selling their oil, thereby threatening the U.S. dollar tremendously since it's delicate and fragile dependence of being pegged to oil. Also remember, the Statue of 'Liberty' comes from France. And what about the British royalty? Aren't they originally from France? And the world's banking system, isn't that ultimately controlled by France?

28th kingdom
30-09-2007, 09:36 PM
It's either France or Dr. Evil... I think it's a toss up, really.

utukxul
30-09-2007, 09:37 PM
huh who knows? look out for Union of Eu this fragile times and see how EU stand in all this. that maybe will give us some pointers.

synak
30-09-2007, 09:46 PM
No one really does or can rule the world. The closest they've come to that is controlling the human population and I believe they have representatives or puppeteers for this in most if not all 'nations'.

It's either France or Dr. Evil... I think it's a toss up, really.

http://i21.tinypic.com/2cnii6b.gif

serpentoffire
30-09-2007, 09:47 PM
In reality the masterminds are inside Grand Orient De France (GODF):

http://www.barruel.com/bauer-chirac.jpg

http://www.roughashlar.com/members/images/graphics/cover_images/christmas-card-03.jpg

Happy Christmas in advance :D

Anders Lindman
30-09-2007, 09:48 PM
I know their game. It goes something like this: It's not the CIA that has put Iran's leader into power, it's the French government who cooperates with Iran to create a 'carrot', or rather a red blanket threat that the U.S. will attack like a bull in a bullfight, so that the U.S. cannot attack the real target, the 'torero' which is the euro.

http://www.statravelblogs.com/journal/region_images/europe/matador.jpg

serpentoffire
30-09-2007, 09:52 PM
I know their game. It goes something like this: It's not the CIA that has put Iran's leader into power, it's the French government who cooperates with Iran to create a 'carrot', or rather a red blanket threat that the U.S. will attack like a bull in a bullfight, so that the U.S. cannot attack the real target, the 'torero' which is the euro.

More or less is so :D:D:D

Anders Lindman
30-09-2007, 10:06 PM
More or less is so :D:D:D

It's just a matter of creating targets that can be attacked, such as:

Object moved

:D

Anders Lindman
30-09-2007, 10:08 PM
Hmm... Isn't the Canadian dollar traded almost 1:1 with the U.S. dollar at the moment? And aren't there French-speaking people in Canada? :eek:

serpentoffire
30-09-2007, 10:11 PM
It's just a matter of creating targets that can be attacked, such as:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=3826451

:D

....I have "some skills" too :D:D

Anders Lindman
30-09-2007, 10:15 PM
....I have "some skills" too :D:D

Ok, I can create some targets for you to attack. ;)

geo2
30-09-2007, 10:18 PM
:cool: holy-charlie-chan, Robin !

number-one-daughter ! :D;):p

serpentoffire
30-09-2007, 10:19 PM
Ok, I can create some targets for you to attack. ;)

I have already a lot of targets to combat :D

Anders Lindman
30-09-2007, 10:56 PM
CHARLEMAGNE FAMILY:

http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/Qual%20sign%20of%20devil.jpg

http://www.neaiga.org/PicBushHookem1.jpg

Politicians flashing the devil sign George bush FBI Clinton - YouTube

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 12:12 AM
French Connection - The Merovingian descent through Charlemagne

-21. Merowig
-20. Childeric I
-19. Clovis I
-18. Theodoric I
-17. Theudebert I
-16. Theudebald
-15. Grimwald of Aquitaine
-14. Itta
-13. Begga
-12. Pippin the Fat
-11. Charles Martel (illegitimate)
-10. Pippin the Short
-9. Charlemagne
-8. Pippin of Italy
-7. Bernard of Italy
-6. Pepin, Count of Vermandois
-5. Herbert I, Count of Vermandois
-4. Berengar of Bayeux
-3. Judicael Berengar
-2. Conan I, Duke of Brittany
-1. Judith of Brittany
0. Robert II, Duke of Normandy
1. William I

Monarch Relation to Elizabeth II

William I of England 22nd Great-Grandfather
Henry I of England 21st Great-Grandfather
Stephen of England 20th Great-Grandfather
Henry II of England 19th Great-Grandfather
Richard I of England 18th Great-Granduncle
John of England 18th Great-Grandfather
Henry III of England 19th Great-Grandfather
Edward I of England 18th Great-Grandfather
Edward II of England 18th Great-Grandfather
Edward III of England 17th Great-Grandfather
Richard II of England 16th Great-Granduncle
Henry IV of England 17th Great-Grandfather
Henry V of England 16th Great-Granduncle
Henry VI of England 14th Great-Grandfather
Edward IV of England 15th Great-Grandfather
Edward V of England 13th Great-Granduncle
Richard III of England 14th Great-Granduncle
Henry VII of England 13th Great-Grandfather
Henry VIII of England 12th Great-Granduncle
Edward VI of England 1st Cousin, 12 times Removed
Lady Jane Grey 10th Great-Grandaunt
Mary I of England 1st Cousin 13 times Removed
Elizabeth I of England 1st Cousin 13 times Removed
James I of England 9th Great-Grandfather
Charles I of England 8th Great-Granduncle
Charles II of England 1st Cousin 9 times Removed
James II of England 1st Cousin 9 times Removed
William III of England 1st Cousin 8 times Removed
Mary II of England 2nd Cousin 8 times Removed
Anne of England 2nd Cousin 8 times Removed
George I of Great Britain 6th Great-Grandfather
George II of Great Britain 5th Great-Grandfather
George III of Great Britain 4th Great-Grandfather
George IV of Great Britain 2nd Great-Granduncle
William IV of Great Britain 2nd Great-Granduncle
Victoria of the United Kingdom 2nd Great-Grandmother
Edward VII of the United Kingdom Great-Grandfather
George V of the United Kingdom Grandfather
Edward VIII of the United Kingdom Uncle
George VI of the United Kingdom Father
Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom Self

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Elizabeth_II_greets_NASA_GSFC_employees%2C_May_8%2 C_2007_edit.jpg/262px-Elizabeth_II_greets_NASA_GSFC_employees%2C_May_8%2 C_2007_edit.jpg

From: Descent of Elizabeth II from William I - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

28th kingdom
01-10-2007, 12:48 AM
Reptilians are the real rulers... come on - who gives a poop about French, British, German etc... it's the illuminati - they're the ones who run the whole shebang.

freedomnonfighter
01-10-2007, 01:27 AM
Um.. hello...

WE ALL DO.

There's no 'Us & Them' involved.

Nondualistic.

It's a reflection of ourselves.

Don't 'comb the mirror' ..

megafish33
01-10-2007, 01:42 AM
It's either France or Dr. Evil... I think it's a toss up, really.

Dr. Evil... has to be... he's a 33rd degree Freemason, and Jewish... it's him for sure! Plus, he went to Evil Medical School...

geo2
01-10-2007, 01:46 AM
Reptilians are the real rulers... come on - who gives a poop about French, British, German etc... it's the illuminati - they're the ones who run the whole shebang.

the 'Illuminati' is just one one of the latest 'tittles' for the 'real-gang' that according 2Alan Watt are located in India, Alan mentioned this on a 'broadcast' with John S of RBN, i think it was on 5/11/7, in the last 10mins of the show and John came right back and offered Alan a Show on RBN and now Alan is there...ohhh, Matrixcutter would prob. know the show or shows that Alan points out the real-controllers...........
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/audio/Alan_Watt_on_NationalIntelReport_JohnStadtmiller_M ay112007.mp3

the Illuminati are real or just a 'name' 4a bigger group or groups of people but it belongs in the 'masses' or 'elites' area, it's the 'controllers who conquered the age-gene five-hundred years ago and may well be 100, 200, 300, 400, 500 years-old and who's tech. is 500yrs plus that of us the 'masses'... now that will 'blow' ur 'panties/jock-strap/socks off'........omg !

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

update: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
holy-dorra-magooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Robin !

28th kingdom
01-10-2007, 01:55 AM
Yea, I forgot Alan Watt is God. He speaks and truth is born.

geo2
01-10-2007, 02:14 AM
Yea, I forgot Alan Watt is God. He speaks and truth is born.

:cool: he's just a well educated-man/brother....................................

}}}Jealous, 28th, schedule a treatment with Doctor Dora !{{{{{lol, LOL

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 02:26 AM
France started implementing the euro to rob the dollar from its position as the world's petro currency. To prevent the U.S. from being able to attack the euro, France created targets for the Americans to fight, such as the Gulf war, the Iraq war and now we have the Iran threat which is the latest target manufactured by France.

The Rise of the European Superstate - YouTube

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 02:42 AM
And guess who is in charge of the dealings with Iran. Yes, that's right, it's France. A mere coincidence?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/09/23/business/sarko.php

French Minister: Prepare for war with Iran - YouTube

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 02:52 AM
Who was it that started to demand gold in exchange for dollars which lead to Nixon being forced to stop the direct convertibility of the U.S. dollar to gold in 1971? Well, ahem, France. A mere coincidence?

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 08:34 AM
Did France fool American scientists about the cause of AIDS? After all, the 'AIDS virus' was originally sent to an American scientist (I think his name was Robert Gallow) from a laboratory in France.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

vienna
01-10-2007, 09:47 AM
Could it be that France has control over the world? France speaks of Iran as a threat but possibly they are just playing a game. Remember, Iran is moving to the euro (if they have not already done so) for selling their oil, thereby threatening the U.S. dollar tremendously since it's delicate and fragile dependence of being pegged to oil. Also remember, the Statue of 'Liberty' comes from France. And what about the British royalty? Aren't they originally from France? And the world's banking system, isn't that ultimately controlled by France?


Romanism - also known as the Vatican rules together with 'The Crown' the holders of its financial interests in the 'corporate state of London' or 'The City' - not London - managed by the Rothchilds


look throughout history and you will see the elite rulers of the Vatican , The Jesuits, behind the scenes

(see Vatican Assassins by Eric Phelps etc)

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 10:08 AM
Romanism - also known as the Vatican rules together with 'The Crown' the holders of its financial interests in the 'corporate state of London' or 'The City' - not London - managed by the Rothchilds


look throughout history and you will see the elite rulers of the Vatican , The Jesuits, behind the scenes

(see Vatican Assassins by Eric Phelps etc)

"Romanism triumphed first over Protestantism, and afterwards over semi-evangelical Jansenism, and France reaped infidelity and the Revolution."

From: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds1.ix.iii.i.html

geo2
01-10-2007, 10:16 AM
Romanism - also known as the Vatican rules together with 'The Crown' the holders of its financial interests in the 'corporate state of London' or 'The City' - not London - managed by the Rothchilds


look throughout history and you will see the elite rulers of the Vatican , The Jesuits, behind the scenes

(see Vatican Assassins by Eric Phelps etc)

:eek: by-golly, 'they' are super-'elites' in-areas but not the 'ultimate-controllers'..players on the -big-stage but not-the-owners of the fn 'circus'......and-many have-meant-well and there is alway's poor/dear Francis/Maria-the-Arch/Angel-of-LIGHT, yeah Francis/Frances got it, the~CROWN
, come/cum on 'guys' bring the real-'controllers'

Stella Maris ! Infinity

vienna
01-10-2007, 10:25 AM
"Romanism triumphed first over Protestantism, and afterwards over semi-evangelical Jansenism, and France reaped infidelity and the Revolution."

From: http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds1.ix.iii.i.html

look at who financed and controlled the French revolution, the ST Bartholews day massacre and who trained Napoleon (who later rebelled against his masters)

In 1825 a secret meeting of leading Jesuits was held at their College of Chieri near Turin, in Northern Italy

At that gathering, plans were discussed for the advancement of Papal power, world-wide, for the destabilizing of governments who stood in the way and for the crushing of all opposition to Jesuit schemes and ambitions

“What we aim at, is the Empire of the World…"

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 10:28 AM
I don't believe the people ruling are truely "French", but France could be where they reside.

vienna
01-10-2007, 10:50 AM
I don't believe the people ruling are truely "French", but France could be where they reside.

? what are you basing this on?

geo2
01-10-2007, 11:03 AM
:cool: 'they' live all-over the fn Planet, they almost-own-it n under it2, underground/cities.................research-the-'net'-it-caught-'em'2

Holy~Water ! Penelopeeeeeeeeeeeee

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 11:28 AM
? what are you basing this on?

What do you mean?

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 11:33 AM
look at who financed and controlled the French revolution, the ST Bartholews day massacre and who trained Napoleon (who later rebelled against his masters)

In 1825 a secret meeting of leading Jesuits was held at their College of Chieri near Turin, in Northern Italy

At that gathering, plans were discussed for the advancement of Papal power, world-wide, for the destabilizing of governments who stood in the way and for the crushing of all opposition to Jesuit schemes and ambitions

“What we aim at, is the Empire of the World…"

I wonder who has control over the banking pyramid. Could that be the Jesuits? The Bank for International Settlements, the central bank of the central banks is situated in Switzerland. I am not at all sure about France as the NWO control center. It seems to be very complicated. And then we have the City of London plus the Vatican and so on. Tricky stuff.

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 11:38 AM
I wonder who has control over the banking pyramid. Could that be the Jesuits? The Bank for International Settlements, the central bank of the central banks is situated in Switzerland. I am not at all sure about France as the NWO control center. It seems to be very complicated. And then we have the City of London plus the Vatican and so on. Tricky stuff.

I know! The NWO center is in Stockholm!!! We have the oldest central bank in the world for example. :eek: :eek: :eek: :D

Freemason's Hall in Stockholm:

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/Freemason's_Hall_Stockholm.jpg

From: http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/swedish_constitution.html

Probably disinfo. For example: "The present king, Carl XVI Gustaf, is the High Protector of the Order" As far as I know, our king refused to join the freemasons.

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 11:53 AM
"The House of Bernadotte, the current Royal House of the Kingdom of Sweden ... Bernadotte, born in the town of Pau, in the province of Béarn, France" [my emphasis]

From: House of Bernadotte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:eek: :confused: :D

pierre_jean
01-10-2007, 11:56 AM
Nine out of ten Europeans people are descendants of Charlemagne, probably a little fewer are descendants of Hugh Capet ! This purely statistical statement is confirmed every day by the numerous recordings of new lineages with multiple ramifications in every social background.
G. Bush is descendant of the family of Capétiens (Hugues Capet)
The last French presidents (Giscard, Mitterrand, Chirac - her wife - are descendants of the capétiens...
Who said bloodlines ? :D
http://www.capet.org/index_us.php

vienna
01-10-2007, 12:00 PM
I wonder who has control over the banking pyramid. Could that be the Jesuits? The Bank for International Settlements, the central bank of the central banks is situated in Switzerland. I am not at all sure about France as the NWO control center. It seems to be very complicated. And then we have the City of London plus the Vatican and so on. Tricky stuff.

the corporation of london ,The Crown, is the Vatican's base for temporal power

like vatican City it is separate from the common wealth and was made a soverign state by WIlliam III in 1694 , ruled over by Lord Mayor of London - The Lord Mayor of London is to be distinguished from the Mayor of London; the former is an officer only of the City of London, while the Mayor of London governs the much larger area of Greater London.
There are two Crowns operant in England, one being Queen Elizabeth II.

The other Crown is comprised of a committee of 12 banks headed by the Bank of England - headed by the Jewish Rothchilds

look the Rothschilds up in Encyclopedia Judaica and you'll discover that they bear the title ‘Guardians of the Vatican Treasury’

They rule from the 677-acre, independent sovereign state known as The City of London, or simply 'The City.'

In the nineteenth century, 90% of the world's trade was carried by British ships controlled by the Crown. The other 10% of ships had to pay commissions to the Crown simply for the privilege of using the world's oceans.

Temple Bar is the juristic arm of the Crown and holds an exclusive monopoly on global legal fraud through their Bar Association franchises.

all contract law is under Maritime Admiralty law - which is Vatican Cannon law

the Vatican has nothing to do with religion it is a geo political organisation concerned with complete control thropugh it's NWO

it is the extention of Roman empire which changed into a 'religion' to survive - senators became Cardinals etc

The Vatican through the Jesuits control world wide banking, the judiciary, the governments, all the armies, police and all of the so called spy organizations through the Black Pope, this includes KGB, CIA, FBI, Mossad, MI5, MI6, and CSIS. The next step is Martial Law and the Micro Chip to totally control the planet which will be a global fiefdom controlled by evil.

http://www.remnantofgod.org/jesuit1.jpg

maybe above the Jesuit black pope there are extra dimensional entities but for me this theorising is not necessary - the Jesuits supreme commander is the NWO mastermind

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 12:25 PM
look the Rothschilds up in Encyclopedia Judaica and you'll discover that they bear the title ‘Guardians of the Vatican Treasury’


"Naumovic v. SNB C-00-3636 BZ - A lawsuit on behalf of gentile Holocaust victims from the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia seeking an accounting of gold looted by the Nazis and their allies and processed through the Reichsbank, Swiss Banks, Bank for International Settlements, and the Vatican Bank during WWII."

From: http://osdir.com/ml/culture.discuss.cia-drugs/2005-11/msg00199.html

:eek:

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 12:33 PM
Nine out of ten Europeans people are descendants of Charlemagne, probably a little fewer are descendants of Hugh Capet ! This purely statistical statement is confirmed every day by the numerous recordings of new lineages with multiple ramifications in every social background.
G. Bush is descendant of the family of Capétiens (Hugues Capet)
The last French presidents (Giscard, Mitterrand, Chirac - her wife - are descendants of the capétiens...
Who said bloodlines ? :D
http://www.capet.org/index_us.php

Particularly the elite seem to have bloodlines tracing back to France.

vienna
01-10-2007, 12:37 PM
"Naumovic v. SNB C-00-3636 BZ - A lawsuit on behalf of gentile Holocaust victims from the former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia seeking an accounting of gold looted by the Nazis and their allies and processed through the Reichsbank, Swiss Banks, Bank for International Settlements, and the Vatican Bank during WWII."

From: http://osdir.com/ml/culture.discuss.cia-drugs/2005-11/msg00199.html

:eek:

there are also other court cases on articbeacon.com of vatican involvement with Nazi Utashi


According to the late Jesuit priest, Fr. Alberto Rivera, whose job was to infiltrate and destroy Protestant ministries, he was privy to sensitive Vatican briefings and documents, revealing the Jesuit role in backing Hitler. Further, he was told by Cardinal Augustine Bea that Nazi gold was deposited in Vatican accounts in Swiss banks.
http://arcticbeacon.com/images/croatia/image038.jpg
a fellow Jesuit named Fr. Staempfle wrote Mein Kampf, as the stage was being set for Germany's new Roman Catholic star, Adolf Hitler.
http://arcticbeacon.com/images/croatia/image002.jpg
Hilter rise to power like stalin was ochestrated by the Jesuits, the Rothchilds are what are known as court Jews and hold no compassion for the jewish race.
http://arcticbeacon.com/images/croatia/image040.jpg
the Jesuits always use the Jews as the front people like with their Fed reserve bank to take the heat and attention away from them


the parallels with GW BUsh controlled by the C.F.R through Cardinal Egan are chilling

http://arcticbeacon.com/images/croatia/image036.jpg

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 12:46 PM
Nazi gold was deposited in Vatican accounts in Swiss banks.

Switzerland was not attacked in WWII. Hmm... Nor was Sweden. :confused:

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 12:52 PM
So, the point of this thread is to not see if we have the names of the elite wrong, but instead we're just pointing out the same evidence in more detail, and trying to see if there is a connection between the elite and nationallity.


Does it really matter?

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 12:59 PM
So, the point of this thread is to not see if we have the names of the elite wrong, but instead we're just pointing out the same evidence in more detail, and trying to see if there is a connection between the elite and nationallity.


Does it really matter?

Well, I watched the French foreign minister interviewed on I think it was CNN, and the the undertone between the American interviewer and the minister from France was a bit cold. I sense that there is something going on between France and the U.S. at the moment.

albie
01-10-2007, 01:05 PM
The people who rule the world....are the people who rule the world.

They call them politicians and businessmen.

They aren't hiding.

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 01:07 PM
The people who rule the world....are the people who rule the world.

They call them politicians and businessmen.

They aren't hiding.

Probably the French leaders are now beginning to reveal themselves as the true masters of the world.

The CIA for example, is just a big bully, like a big bull, without any trace of sophistication what-so-ever. Hehe.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 01:15 PM
Well, I watched the French foreign minister interviewed on I think it was CNN, and the the undertone between the American interviewer and the minister from France was a bit cold. I sense that there is something going on between France and the U.S. at the moment.

You kinda missed what I was asking, uh?

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 01:21 PM
You kinda missed what I was asking, uh?

Of course it matters. France is pulling the U.S. government around by the nose, including the CIA, that old relic from the cold war, and they are only now beginning to understand what is happening to them.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 01:26 PM
Of course it matters. France is pulling the U.S. government around by the nose, including the CIA, that old relic from the cold war, and they are only now beginning to understand what is happening to them.

Could it be jsut another ploy in order for you to loose track and focus attention else where?

The Elite only let it happen when they want it to happen. Unless this leader goes missing, or dead, then you have no real grounds for proof of this.

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 03:08 PM
Could it be jsut another ploy in order for you to loose track and focus attention else where?

The Elite only let it happen when they want it to happen. Unless this leader goes missing, or dead, then you have no real grounds for proof of this.

I'm certainly not sure that my claims are valid at all. I just test pinpricking the NWO balloon, and most of the time it's probably just an illusionary balloon, but once I hit the real balloon it will go 'pop' like a weasel. :cool:

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 03:12 PM
I'm certainly not sure that my claims are valid at all. I just test pinpricking the NWO balloon, and most of the time it's probably just an illusionary balloon, but once I hit the real balloon it will go 'pop' like a weasel. :cool:

You want to pop a balloon?

Get your hands on a translated version of the Zohar, dealing with "Practical Qubalah".. I'm sure then you will understand why these elitests claim to be "jewish".

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 04:08 PM
You want to pop a balloon?

Get your hands on a translated version of the Zohar, dealing with "Practical Qubalah".. I'm sure then you will understand why these elitests claim to be "jewish".

I want to aim at something even more practical than that. Such as money. The Bank for International Settlements, for example, which is sucking up all the interest in the world which then goes to.......the Vatican Bank?

vienna
01-10-2007, 04:12 PM
I want to aim at something even more practical than that. Such as money. The Bank for International Settlements, for example, which is sucking up all the interest in the world which then goes to.......the Vatican Bank?


as are 'The Crown' banks and Fed Reserve

Anders Lindman
01-10-2007, 07:25 PM
as are 'The Crown' banks and Fed Reserve

My view is that the BIS acts as a spider in the banking web and from BIS all the interest being sucked from the central banks goes to somewhere, probably to an organization rather than some bank. Banks are usually companies existing on public stockmarkets. Or maybe to the Vatican Bank, because it's not a public bank I think (I haven't researched that yet). So then interest from the Federal Reserve is flowing to BIS, not to the Vatican Bank, at least not directly.

celtic isis
01-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Nine out of ten Europeans people are descendants of Charlemagne, probably a little fewer are descendants of Hugh Capet ! This purely statistical statement is confirmed every day by the numerous recordings of new lineages with multiple ramifications in every social background.
G. Bush is descendant of the family of Capétiens (Hugues Capet)
The last French presidents (Giscard, Mitterrand, Chirac - her wife - are descendants of the capétiens...
Who said bloodlines ? :D
http://www.capet.org/index_us.php

pierre jean mon amour :D get that president sarkozy speech up whee he talks about the new world order!!!

i saw it myself yesterday on french tv channel canal plus, this is exactly what he said! :eek:

“I address myself to the conscience of all those which have a responsibility in control for the businesses for the world. Because if not, the poor and exploited will revolt one day against the injustice which is made to them”

“In the name of France, I invite all the States to meet to base a new world order of XXIe century on this strong idea that the community properties of humanity must be placed under the responsibility of very whole humanity”

“It is of a new frame of mind which the world needs, it is true New Deal with the planetary scales which are necessary, New Deal ecological and economic.”

N. Sarkozy, New York,9/25/2007

h1s_l0rdsh1p
01-10-2007, 07:59 PM
I want to aim at something even more practical than that. Such as money. The Bank for International Settlements, for example, which is sucking up all the interest in the world which then goes to.......the Vatican Bank?

Question:
If you were able to speak to beings of another realm through learning spells and such, do you think they would care about money?

albie
02-10-2007, 11:43 AM
Probably the French leaders are now beginning to reveal themselves as the true masters of the world.

The CIA for example, is just a big bully, like a big bull, without any trace of sophistication what-so-ever. Hehe.

Really?

The CIA are a split organisation (if you believe the conspiracy hype). Some of them are in on it, most are not. You're bound to get a clumsy company when they are pulling in different directions.

edelweiss pirate
02-10-2007, 01:56 PM
I'm afraid this thread misses the point entirely.

It's about pan nationalism. The Masons are internationalists. Like the Jews they rove from place to place building their network through arranged marriages and meeting of related bloodlines..

Does it not ocurr that France has arrived to the NWO party much later than America, the UK and even much of the rest of Europe.

France WERE independent to some extent before Sarkozy. Not now, they are Bush's little Bitch. Just like the cocks in our government.

Anders Lindman
02-10-2007, 02:33 PM
“I address myself to the conscience of all those which have a responsibility in control for the businesses for the world. Because if not, the poor and exploited will revolt one day against the injustice which is made to them”


Hmm... Does he mean that they the elite must control the masses, or does he mean that the business should align itself with the need of the people?

Anders Lindman
02-10-2007, 02:35 PM
Question:
If you were able to speak to beings of another realm through learning spells and such, do you think they would care about money?

Absolutely! Money is about energy. Any dimension you would deal with is also about energy. All dimensions are energetically interconnected. Money is VERY spiritual.

Anders Lindman
02-10-2007, 02:38 PM
I'm afraid this thread misses the point entirely.

It's about pan nationalism. The Masons are internationalists. Like the Jews they rove from place to place building their network through arranged marriages and meeting of related bloodlines..

Does it not ocurr that France has arrived to the NWO party much later than America, the UK and even much of the rest of Europe.

France WERE independent to some extent before Sarkozy. Not now, they are Bush's little Bitch. Just like the cocks in our government.

Yes, the global scale of things is the big topic among leaders today it seems. I am currently listening to Alan Greenspan's new book, and it's very much about a global perspective even though the focus is on the U.S. economy. Fascinating audio.

Anders Lindman
02-10-2007, 02:47 PM
Really?

The CIA are a split organisation (if you believe the conspiracy hype). Some of them are in on it, most are not. You're bound to get a clumsy company when they are pulling in different directions.

One interesting topic would be how the CIA is related to the Federal Reserve. I shall see if I can get get some info about that.

tiswas
02-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Did you know France has given the world:
the first revolution which was successful
Photography
Cinema and many more things.
What I do admire about France is that they told Bush the second what they thought of his ideas for war in Iraq.:)
Did you know that the French are the most healthiest of all Europe.

edelweiss pirate
02-10-2007, 04:55 PM
Did you know France has given the world:
the first revolution which was successful
Photography
Cinema and many more things.
What I do admire about France is that they told Bush the second what they thought of his ideas for war in Iraq.:)
Did you know that the French are the most healthiest of all Europe.

Uh-uh, what about the British revolution... Charles I lost his head and we had a puritanical parliamentary democracy....

The Brits got there first.. 100 years earlier.

Remember that the French revolution was masonic and thousands upon thousands died from it and the subsequent European wars. Successful? To the Illumies I guess.

Anders Lindman
02-10-2007, 06:04 PM
Did you know France has given the world:
the first revolution which was successful
Photography
Cinema and many more things.
What I do admire about France is that they told Bush the second what they thought of his ideas for war in Iraq.:)
Did you know that the French are the most healthiest of all Europe.

France made the U.S. to attack Iraq, and now they are trying to fool the U.S. to attack Iran. I think.

One reason the French are healthy is probably because of their food. I like French wine. :D