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geewhizz
11-03-2010, 07:34 PM
Hi
Just reading about Ickes Moon theory and I personally think there is a bit of truth to what he says.
However, There is much much more to this. Firstly, the moon has a north and south pole which contain small amounts of ice. If the Moon is aritificial, so is Earth and the rest of the solar system planets.
The Sun is a reactor, intelligently designed and the fire power of all life and evolution. The same beings/intelligence?? that created the moon also created the reactor(sun) as there would be no life otherwise.
There are quad zillions of suns in the universe (apparently) but I would go so far as to say that this is a visual illusion crated by the controllers.
I would say that there is no other life apart from the milky way galaxy which is also an illusion of the mind if you want to go deeper.
There is no 'out there' only 'in here' i.e the mind. Many people have spoke of a soul catcher device on the moon, maybe Icke will also mention this in his new book.
Food for thought.
brainfreeze
11-03-2010, 07:40 PM
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mauviene
11-03-2010, 07:43 PM
I sort of take it as a half assed truth. I watched a film awhile ago called moon rising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3wh2cjekE in which a visual artist thinks he sees evidence of alien ruins on the moon, or possibly alien bases their right now. of course the most interesting part of the film is when he points out about the false horizons in almost all of NASAs images..which is basically the fact that they crop out the horizon so we don't see how our solar system really looks like..outside of our atmosphere that is..
http://moonpark.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/moon32.jpg
http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/space/earth/earth_6.jpg
No stars..which their should be plenty of them visible outside of the atmosphere..and many other things I am sure..
northern star
11-03-2010, 07:54 PM
I have been a fan of David since he broke ranks back in 89 but I am really confused by this new theory.
To me the moon is a symbol of the sacred feminine, a beautific and benign entity that controls the tides, the earths rhythms and the female cycle.
How can anything so powerful, ancient and spiritual (as the earth itself) be a man-made construct? I could buy the theory that there are forces on there controlling the earths people, nothing surprises me any more, but the moon itself a spaceship? I honestly dont believe theres any life forms out there clever enough to do this, it is to me a creation of the Divine, as is the earth. And if malign forces created it, why is the sea, its tides, the menstrual cycle so beautiful and life giving? These are the questions Id like answered.
I notice also there are no females on Davids new homepage logo, only men.
To me, a great new change is coming where the return of the feminine sacred will restore balance and peace to the earth and its people. I hope this all isnt just another step in the direction of patriarchy and male dominance, because that would be a backward step, and one I wouldnt expect from Mr Icke.
tb303
11-03-2010, 07:58 PM
Go to any astrologer and get them to give you a daily forecast. The major factor in these forecasts is the Moon and it's relation to other planets and the houses in your birth chart. Now, if you wanted to mess around with your slaves and affect their emotions on an hourly basis, what better way than to do it with the Moon.
elo_zorn
11-03-2010, 08:04 PM
I have been a fan of David since he broke ranks back in 89 but I am really confused by this new theory.
To me the moon is a symbol of the sacred feminine, a beautific and benign entity that controls the tides, the earths rhythms and the female cycle.
How can anything so powerful, ancient and spiritual (as the earth itself) be a man-made construct? I could buy the theory that there are forces on there controlling the earths people, nothing surprises me any more, but the moon itself a spaceship? I honestly dont believe theres any life forms out there clever enough to do this, it is to me a creation of the Divine, as is the earth. And if malign forces created it, why is the sea, its tides, the menstrual cycle so beautiful and life giving? These are the questions Id like answered.
I notice also there are no females on Davids new homepage logo, only men.
To me, a great new change is coming where the return of the feminine sacred will restore balance and peace to the earth and its people. I hope this all isnt just another step in the direction of patriarchy and male dominance, because that would be a backward step, and one I wouldnt expect from Mr Icke.
Great post; this was exactly my first thought when I read the advertisement for the new book...how could anything as amazing as the moon be nothing but an evil nest of aliens. No matter what is on the moon, reptilians or not, nothing could take away from it's positive and feminine influence.
beldazar
11-03-2010, 08:07 PM
http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/space/earth/earth_6.jpg
No stars..which their should be plenty of them visible outside of the atmosphere..and many other things I am sure..
I have just been reading about the moon on another site and one part explained a picture of the earth supposedly taken from space and you can clearly see a part where they have messed up with the cloud formation and duplicated it.
This is incredible! Is anything real?
http://veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov//2429/globe_west_2048.jpg
click on the picture to enlarge it and look at the bottom left corner up a bit.
And this is what the man who wrote the piece says...
Yes that's the planet Earth you see in the above 8th image. More specifically it is the famous image named "The Blue Marble" that is suppose to have been taken of Earth from space. Huge size .jpg and .tif images are available at the above link under the globe with slow download times. Earth is beautiful isn't it.
So what does this have to do with the Moon? Well the real issue when it comes to the Moon imaging or space exploration imaging in general is trust and I want you to find out for yourself that your trust may be misplaced. Go to the above link under the Earth globe above and download the huge "globe_west_2048.jpg" image file listed there (4th down) and take a close look at the cloud patterns in the really big view. Look especially closely at the area from the equator down to the South Pole. You will find many duplicated or cloned cloud patterns demonstrating very obvious artificial manipulation in the image.
Why would anyone do this? I agree and yet there it is. Is someone testing our ability to discern truth from fiction and/or our gullibility capacity in this planetary subject matter or just testing developing graphics technology of the time on us? This brings up the obvious question as to whether any of this Earth image is real or not? The next observation is, if you can't trust in something as simple as a picture of Earth from space, how are you going to trust images purported to be of and from the Moon with its controversial issues? Much of what we see or think we see is based on trust of people and institutions that may be trying to scam us all with manipulated material at the most fundamental levels.
Upon reflection, this kind of messy space exploration information brings up another issue with this researcher. The more the Moon evidence uncovered, the more it points to manipulation, deceit, and nothing much real with respect to space exploration, at least as released for public consumption. The research always comes back over and over again to deceit and the manipulation of evidence to obfuscate truth. The Moon exploration visual imaging science data is so rife with it that very little of it can be trusted.
Further, the deceit and obfuscation just isn't that good and yet it goes unrecognized and not dealt with by a too trusting general public and the communities of scientists and media. This level of secrecy cannot be as successful as it clearly is without the willing participation of the bulk of the public and the bulk of the science and media communities. We are all distracted from important issues affecting all of mankind by the bones of entertainment and perceived threats against family and country security tossed to us. In other words, with each generation, it appears that we are collectively becoming more and more a bunch of clueless dummies and puppets dancing on someone else's strings.
Is this personal oblivion what we want for ourselves and our children on into the future generations, to become dummies never seeking the new and rationalize that we are not the subject vassals of a secret few as of old? Am I really wasting my time here trying to pry out and reveal some bits and pieces of greater truth if in the end we really can't handle that truth and must wait as vassals for a few to tell us what to think and do? If there is no spirit and will to strive for truth left in the world? Are we already bagged and tagged?
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2010/181/moon-color.htm
hadabusa
11-03-2010, 08:08 PM
Hi
Just reading about Ickes Moon theory and I personally think there is a bit of truth to what he says.
However, There is much much more to this. Firstly, the moon has a north and south pole which contain small amounts of ice. If the Moon is aritificial, so is Earth and the rest of the solar system planets.
The Sun is a reactor, intelligently designed and the fire power of all life and evolution. The same beings/intelligence?? that created the moon also created the reactor(sun) as there would be no life otherwise.
There are quad zillions of suns in the universe (apparently) but I would go so far as to say that this is a visual illusion crated by the controllers.
I would say that there is no other life apart from the milky way galaxy which is also an illusion of the mind if you want to go deeper.
There is no 'out there' only 'in here' i.e the mind. Many people have spoke of a soul catcher device on the moon, maybe Icke will also mention this in his new book.
Food for thought.
a bit of truth?
kinda like a bit pregnant?
its yes or no.if not, its guessing.
what sources are given?
snapdragon
11-03-2010, 08:24 PM
http://veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov//2429/globe_west_2048.jpg
This famous Earth photo from 2002 was made by NASA and is used as a Desktop on Apple Mac and wallpaper on the iPhone. When it was first released, there was info to say it was made of thousands of photos taken using a collection of satellite-based observations, scientists and visualizers stitched together months of observations of the land surface, oceans, sea ice, and clouds into a seamless, mosaic of the Earth.
piratecooper
11-03-2010, 08:33 PM
Swerdlow has been talking about this for the longest time!
Give him some props. ;)
iaintoff
11-03-2010, 08:36 PM
I have been a fan of David since he broke ranks back in 89 but I am really confused by this new theory.
To me the moon is a symbol of the sacred feminine, a beautific and benign entity that controls the tides, the earths rhythms and the female cycle.
How can anything so powerful, ancient and spiritual (as the earth itself) be a man-made construct? I could buy the theory that there are forces on there controlling the earths people, nothing surprises me any more, but the moon itself a spaceship? I honestly dont believe theres any life forms out there clever enough to do this, it is to me a creation of the Divine, as is the earth. And if malign forces created it, why is the sea, its tides, the menstrual cycle so beautiful and life giving? These are the questions Id like answered.
I notice also there are no females on Davids new homepage logo, only men.
To me, a great new change is coming where the return of the feminine sacred will restore balance and peace to the earth and its people. I hope this all isnt just another step in the direction of patriarchy and male dominance, because that would be a backward step, and one I wouldnt expect from Mr Icke.
thats just because you've got your little heart set on a vision of a future, complete with its very own ideology, one that is the most convienient to you, i'd wager. Therefore anything that may challenge that vision/ideology is naturally a challenge and therefore uncomfortable...:o
psystorm
11-03-2010, 08:43 PM
He gives all the NASA/gov links to many many pictures from/of space that are not telling the real story.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/index.htm
Just take a min a look at how we have been duped.
Psystorm
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elo_zorn
11-03-2010, 08:48 PM
thats just because you've got your little heart set on a vision of a future, complete with its very own ideology, one that is the most convienient to you, i'd wager. Therefore anything that may challenge that vision/ideology is naturally a challenge and therefore uncomfortable...:o
I'd bet this person feels that way because what they said is true whether reptilian aliens are up there or not...it not an idealology, it's fact.
The moon does regulate the tides, the menstrual cycle and many other earthly rhythms...without even jumping into metaphysical, esoteric and occult influences these things alone show it's massively positive feminine influence.
gallifrey
11-03-2010, 08:48 PM
I will concede to the possibility of the moon being a base, of sorts. A spaceship though, to me, is inconceivable.
I think it is more than possible that an Extra-Terrestrial intelligence hollowed out the moon somehow, and made it into a giant space station of sorts, but I can't quite fathom the idea of it being an all-out space ship.
I shall have to read the new book, and evaluate the evidence, I guess.
elo_zorn
11-03-2010, 08:56 PM
He gives all the NASA/gov links to many many pictures from/of space that are not telling the real story.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/index.htm
Just take a min a look at how we have been duped.
Psystorm
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Can you find the shape shifting face in the space helmet about 1/2 down on this page?
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2010/181/moon-color.htm
I only briefly skimmed through that link but I saw no mention of the moon being a spaceship, or reptilian aliens being the passengers of such a thing...where's the connection?
...and no, I didn't see the shapeshifting face. Never saw a reflection before?
elo_zorn
11-03-2010, 09:02 PM
I will concede to the possibility of the moon being a base, of sorts. A spaceship though, to me, is inconceivable.
I think it is more than possible that an Extra-Terrestrial intelligence hollowed out the moon somehow, and made it into a giant space station of sorts, but I can't quite fathom the idea of it being an all-out space ship.
I shall have to read the new book, and evaluate the evidence, I guess.
What if it was already hollow? This I find more convincing than either of those theories. The hollow aspect wouldn't blow my mind in any way...I read today that Mars's moon Phobos is at least partially hollow actually. Attributing the moon in it's entirety to a group of shapeshifting lizards beaming down our reality is what I have a problem with.
psystorm
11-03-2010, 10:10 PM
I only briefly skimmed through that link but I saw no mention of the moon being a spaceship, or reptilian aliens being the passengers of such a thing...where's the connection?
...and no, I didn't see the shapeshifting face. Never saw a reflection before?
Your right, he only looks at the ways pictures have been masked, changed, or manipulated. As for the shapeshifting face, I think my mind is playing games on me.
beldazar
11-03-2010, 10:22 PM
Your right, he only looks at the ways pictures have been masked, changed, or manipulated. As for the shapeshifting face, I think my mind is playing games on me.
yes I thought it very interesting when I saw the picture of the earth and the duplicated clouds. :cool:
_tzupidity
11-03-2010, 11:51 PM
There aren't that many other places to go really are there? All the alien/occult stuff has been done to death since the 80's. The NWO and Bilderberg type stuff is getting old now. The whole Hollow Earth, Hollow Moon has been largely untouched by Ickey over the years and as someone already pointed out on here, people like Swerdlow have been talking about the Moon for a long time. I see it as Ickey just moving on to a newer subject to keep his books/talks fresh.
I do think that the moon is a space ship. I read on here the other week that Star Wars is based on a true story that happened in what we call the 'Orion Constellation' and that the reptiles are the empire etc. I watched all six films with this is mind and I've decided that if it's true then Earth is Endor, the Moon is a DeathStar and Humans are the genetically altered descendents of Ewoks.
Maybe Enochian is really Ewokian?
mrindigo
12-03-2010, 01:12 AM
I will concede to the possibility of the moon being a base, of sorts. A spaceship though, to me, is inconceivable.
I think it is more than possible that an Extra-Terrestrial intelligence hollowed out the moon somehow, and made it into a giant space station of sorts, but I can't quite fathom the idea of it being an all-out space ship.
I shall have to read the new book, and evaluate the evidence, I guess.
I share similar thoughts on the notion of the moon being a vehicle. Bases and underground colonies are a definite possibility, but a giant craft? Wouldn't it crumble under it's own weight, let alone the gravitational forces exerted on it from Earth?
Some folks on these forums point out the fact that it doesn't have a spin like other celestial objects. It is strange, but doesn't prove that it's a giant vehicle.
I like to try and keep an open mind about things, but I think this may be a case of taking Hollywood productions a bit too literal.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/death-star-1.jpg
Naturally I could be completely wrong it is a massive vehicle/colony. If so, it's the most impressive artificially created structure ever conceived.
siliconpsychosis
12-03-2010, 02:23 AM
For the moon to be both the right size in relation to the sun and also the right distance from the sun to create a perfect eclipse is evidence enough for me that the moon exists by design.
dreamweaver
12-03-2010, 02:52 AM
For the moon to be both the right size in relation to the sun and also the right distance from the sun to create a perfect eclipse is evidence enough for me that the moon exists by design.
Except it isn't, is it?
Total eclipses are relatively rare, there are far more partial and annular eclipses
Why would the aliens be steering their spaceship into earth orbit to create a total eclipse every few years anyway?
beldazar
12-03-2010, 08:01 AM
Why would the aliens be steering their spaceship into earth orbit to create a total eclipse every few years anyway?
So they can carry out one of their special occult rituals perhaps?
curtaincat
14-03-2010, 01:55 PM
He gives all the NASA/gov links to many many pictures from/of space that are not telling the real story.
http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/index.htm
Just take a min a look at how we have been duped.
Psystorm
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very interesting, i will be coming back to that link!
ty psystorm! :)
and wowee, another merge...
ironcobra
14-03-2010, 03:05 PM
For alot of background on this theory i enjoyed Michael tsarion atlantis alien visitation genetic manipulation its a rather short docu about 11 hours really goes into why they think the moon is here and the real history of our planet loads of research for the hungry ones
couldnt find a youtube link but heres the torrent:
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/92890461/atlantis+alien?tab=summary
dreamweaver
14-03-2010, 03:11 PM
So they can carry out one of their special occult rituals perhaps?
I'm sure they could come up with far less convoluted ways of doing it.
Since when did they need an excuse anyway? Abusers will abuse whenever they feel like it, especially ones with a lot of power.
For alot of background on this theory i enjoyed Michael tsarion atlantis alien visitation genetic manipulation its a rather short docu about 11 hours really goes into why they think the moon is here and the real history of our planet loads of research for the hungry ones
If you can spare so much time reading these people, perhaps you could spare some time learning some physics too? Geology and seismology would be particularly good topics to research.
ironcobra
14-03-2010, 03:17 PM
If you can spare so much time reading these people, perhaps you could spare some time learning some physics too? Geology and seismology would be particularly good topics to research.
and how do u know i dont? how do u know i dont have a phd in those fields?? im currently researching all the rodin harramein work is that good enough?
dreamweaver
14-03-2010, 03:28 PM
and how do u know i dont? how do u know i dont have a phd in those fields?? im currently researching all the rodin harramein work is that good enough?
You can't even master proper punctuation. :rolleyes:
That isn't a prerequisite for having a PhD in those fields, of course, but you haven't demonstrated even the most very basic knowledge of those fields. I know you're bullshitting, and so do you, so why waste the time of both of us by pretending otherwise?
curtaincat
14-03-2010, 03:33 PM
You can't even master proper punctuation. :rolleyes:
That isn't a prerequisite for having a PhD in those fields, of course, but you haven't demonstrated even the most very basic knowledge of those fields. I know you're bullshitting, and so do you, so why waste the time of both of us by pretending otherwise?
cos he can, lol
i can speak all proper like , when i feels like it, lol.
just gotta laugh:D
dreamweaver
14-03-2010, 03:35 PM
So where can I read ironcobra's thesis then?
ironcobra
14-03-2010, 03:38 PM
You can't even master proper punctuation. :rolleyes:
That isn't a prerequisite for having a PhD in those fields, of course, but you haven't demonstrated even the most very basic knowledge of those fields. I know you're bullshitting, and so do you, so why waste the time of both of us by pretending otherwise?
man someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed(sorry i was educated in the public school system), ill be the first to admit i don't have any phd's , im just saying why do u have a problem with the way i spend my time or is it just simple jealousy u don't have that much time, i mean i like reading everyone's theories just because they have phds and fancy science magazines and organizations with long acronyms that should be my only sources i don't think so, i mean it is all theories right??
dreamweaver
14-03-2010, 03:51 PM
man someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed(sorry i was educated in the public school system), ill be the first to admit i don't have any phd's , im just saying why do u have a problem with the way i spend my time or is it just simple jealousy u don't have that much time, i mean i like reading everyone's theories just because they have phds and fancy science magazines and organizations with long acronyms that should be my only sources i don't think so
Thanks for the honesty. All I'm suggesting is that you at least read some science to go alongside these guys' conjecture.
At least most of these "official" scientists publish the data that they base their work on - one major exception being the "man-made global warming" lot, who refuse to hand over their data. I believe that they have something to hide, as Climategate showed.
Most of the "researchers" who have been cited in this thread don't publish any data for others to check for themselves, at the very best they will quote other such "researchers" who themselves don't make their raw data available. Personally, I think such people are pulling the wool over your eyes to make a living out of you.
I have been prepared to suspend my disbelief of Icke because, alongside the silly stuff, he has come out with some very useful information about the NWO, the control agenda and so on. If he wants to plagiarise other people's theories about the "spaceship moon", well... whatever. I'll just have to see if he has anything valid to say alongside the silly gimmicks that he probably needs to use to sell his books.
ironcobra
14-03-2010, 04:04 PM
Thanks for the honesty. All I'm suggesting is that you at least read some science to go alongside these guys' conjecture.
At least most of these "official" scientists publish the data that they base their work on - one major exception being the "man-made global warming" lot, who refuse to hand over their data. I believe that they have something to hide, as Climategate showed.
Most of the "researchers" who have been cited in this thread don't publish any data for others to check for themselves, at the very best they will quote other such "researchers" who themselves don't make their raw data available. Personally, I think such people are pulling the wool over your eyes to make a living out of you.
I have been prepared to suspend my disbelief of Icke because, alongside the silly stuff, he has come out with some very useful information about the NWO, the control agenda and so on. If he wants to plagiarise other people's theories about the "spaceship moon", well... whatever. I'll just have to see if he has anything valid to say alongside the silly gimmicks that he probably needs to use to sell his books.
i completly respect that i have not choosen any sides in this just stated i enjoyed the video and provides a great deal of books to research from which is his best aspect im not saying hes correct just like how he names every source or book he gets his theory from, i think most of these people are just research rats who are good at putting it together for the people who dont have time to read 10 books a week, i will read ur links on the david post about this as i appreciate all info so i can make my on conclusions, im not sold on anything but tsarion defintely gives u plenty of sources to go on good movie maybe u should give it a watch just a different perspective, and a background to why people are so pasionate about the hollow moon and earth theories, no need to be so personal when people are just giving alternative research to ponder on:D
dreamweaver
14-03-2010, 04:06 PM
im not sold on anything but tsarion defintely gives u plenty of sources to go on good movie maybe u should give it a watch just a different perspective, and a background to why people are so pasionate about the hollow moon and earth theories,
Will do. :)
ironcobra
14-03-2010, 04:13 PM
alot if his work in that video is based on the book by allan and delair "when the earth nearly died"
Amazon.com: When the Earth Nearly Died: Compelling Evidence of a World Cataclysm 11,500 Years Ago (9781858600086): D. S. Allan, J. B. Delair: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/217dXb2SwUL.@@AMEPARAM@@217dXb2SwUL
they are professors from cambridge and oxford and tops in there respected fields
secretagent
14-03-2010, 04:58 PM
I sort of take it as a half assed truth. I watched a film awhile ago called moon rising http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ3wh2cjekE in which a visual artist thinks he sees evidence of alien ruins on the moon, or possibly alien bases their right now. of course the most interesting part of the film is when he points out about the false horizons in almost all of NASAs images..which is basically the fact that they crop out the horizon so we don't see how our solar system really looks like..outside of our atmosphere that is..
http://moonpark.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/moon32.jpg
http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/space/earth/earth_6.jpg
No stars..which their should be plenty of them visible outside of the atmosphere..and many other things I am sure..
Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed that... It's been bugging me since years.
I have been arguing about it in some places with people telling me that films aren't sensitive enough to pick up the faint stars but this never convinced me as there is not a single picture on record that I know of taken from space that has stars on it (apart from the Hubble stuff of course).
If the film sensitivity argument was valid, then why didn't some space travellers never took any film with better sensivity or took pictures with a longer exposure to photograph stars specifically?
secretagent
14-03-2010, 05:39 PM
Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed that... It's been bugging me since years.
I have been arguing about it in some places with people telling me that films aren't sensitive enough to pick up the faint stars but this never convinced me as there is not a single picture on record that I know of taken from space that has stars on it (apart from the Hubble stuff of course).
If the film sensitivity argument was valid, then why didn't some space travellers never took any film with better sensivity or took pictures with a longer exposure to photograph stars specifically?
I'll expand a bit on my various observations and thoughts on this weird topic.
During one of the Apollo mission there was a project aiming at photographing stars but the experiment fucked up. There is one movie in the NASA archive which shows the apparatus for photographing stars installed on the ground and then before any picture has been taken, one of the astronauts walks along and inadvertently (?) drags the wires powering the device with his feet and breaks them or shorts them, lots of electrical sparkles can be seen when this happens and the experiment is destroyed. There has been no other attempt at photographing stars made during the Apollo missions than this one.
This could fuel the speculation that the experiment has been sabotaged deliberately and that either the astronauts never went on the moon or that no stars can be seen from the void of space.
Then I also suspected that the destruction of the space shuttle in 1986 was deliberate in order to hide the fact from the population the amazing fact that no stars are visible from the void of space. This shuttle mission was having a school teacher on board, Christa McAuliffe, and she was meant to interact live with pupils on the ground, answering whatever spontaneous questions they may ask her such as IMO likely "Please, can you show us the stars with your camera"... That kind of live interaction has never been attempted again as far as I know.
I have been wondering whether no stars can apparently be seen from the void of space because we actually exist within an extremely sophisticated virtual reality environment or if it is because light is even more mysterious than we commonly know, needing perhaps to be "activated" by travelling through a sufficient width of gaseous medium to become visible or something, which would have been studied secretely and yeld new dicoveries in physics which in turn may have yeld new technologies only in the hands of the most secret military labs.
Or is there an explanation about this absence of stars on pics taken from the void of space that is completely trivial and that I can't figure out for some reason?
Saying that films aren't sensitive enough just does not seem to add up for me as if that was the case there certainly would have been one or several successful instances of films being taken with films and/or cameras specially tuned for that purpose.
catnik54
04-04-2010, 08:19 PM
..... Worried about David...for a visionary explanation of David's new book , Human Race Get off Your Knees! by Catnik54:rolleyes:
crystalline
05-04-2010, 02:51 AM
wasn't there a kids nursery rhyme that said the moon was made of blue cheese?:eek:
catnik54
05-04-2010, 03:05 AM
I have been a fan of David since he broke ranks back in 89 but I am really confused by this new theory.
To me the moon is a symbol of the sacred feminine, a beautific and benign entity that controls the tides, the earths rhythms and the female cycle.
How can anything so powerful, ancient and spiritual (as the earth itself) be a man-made construct? I could buy the theory that there are forces on there controlling the earths people, nothing surprises me any more, but the moon itself a spaceship? I honestly dont believe theres any life forms out there clever enough to do this, it is to me a creation of the Divine, as is the earth. And if malign forces created it, why is the sea, its tides, the menstrual cycle so beautiful and life giving? These are the questions Id like answered.
I notice also there are no females on Davids new homepage logo, only men.
To me, a great new change is coming where the return of the feminine sacred will restore balance and peace to the earth and its people. I hope this all isnt just another step in the direction of patriarchy and male dominance, because that would be a backward step, and one I wouldnt expect from Mr Icke.
You don't have the full measure of the guy, he is a right wing free thinker and a homophobic mascinator, he likes men to be men and women to be women. He sees sexuality and biological, chemical attraction as pornographic.He is anti gay, anti feminist and anti abortion. No doubt child raising is women's work.
eyeballkid88
05-04-2010, 03:27 AM
LOL.... so how much are they paying you for putting out this rubbish....
its definately new book time, all the muppets are out to discredit David..
hadabusa
05-04-2010, 11:26 AM
You don't have the full measure of the guy, he is a right wing free thinker and a homophobic mascinator, he likes men to be men and women to be women. He sees sexuality and biological, chemical attraction as pornographic.He is anti gay, anti feminist and anti abortion. No doubt child raising is women's work.
you his ex wife?
:D
holybeast
05-04-2010, 05:09 PM
i wonder if we can trust the source that says the moon controls the tides and such as with the earth flying and spinning in space if it really is would that not be enough to control tides? i dont know but i am interested in reading the new book
eyeballkid88
06-04-2010, 06:10 AM
you his ex wife?
:D
Are you a time wasting c***?? lol...
hadabusa
06-04-2010, 08:30 AM
Go to any astrologer and get them to give you a daily forecast. The major factor in these forecasts is the Moon and it's relation to other planets and the houses in your birth chart. Now, if you wanted to mess around with your slaves and affect their emotions on an hourly basis, what better way than to do it with the Moon.
weather forecast?
or brilliant predictions containing terms like "maybe,or"
if ppl can forecast, how comes computers cant?
_tzupidity
06-04-2010, 03:32 PM
Glad to see I am not the only one who noticed that... It's been bugging me since years.
I have been arguing about it in some places with people telling me that films aren't sensitive enough to pick up the faint stars but this never convinced me as there is not a single picture on record that I know of taken from space that has stars on it (apart from the Hubble stuff of course).
If the film sensitivity argument was valid, then why didn't some space travellers never took any film with better sensivity or took pictures with a longer exposure to photograph stars specifically?
This, like many peices of 'evidence' in the 'conspiracy' sphere are born out of man's laziness. If you took the time to go learn a little how photography actually works then you could have answered your question ages ago. It's just easier to stay in ignorance and blame moon aliens.
Cameras are set for the brightest object in the frame. This means that less bright objects simply don't show up. It does not mean that they aren't there.
In order to take photographs of stars you need a decent length of exposure time because there isn't much light coming off them. You /could/ adjust the exposure time whilst taking a picture of the moon so that the stars show up, but the moon would then show up as a featureless blob of light as there is simply far more light coming off it than the stars.
Don't take my word for it though, google Astrophotography and go find out just how complicated and expensive it can get to take a simple picture of some stars. No conspiracy or mystery required, just some basic physics and optics.
free_thinker
06-04-2010, 07:29 PM
i wonder if we can trust the source that says the moon controls the tides and such as with the earth flying and spinning in space if it really is would that not be enough to control tides? i dont know but i am interested in reading the new book
Excellent question.
Most of the tidal rise and fall is caused by the earth spinning and the slight pull of the moon elongates this warped ocean into a giant ellipse with maximum displacement at the points closest to the moon and the opposite side.
This is why we get 2 high tides a day and not just 1 if it was all down to the moon.
The tidal action is no greater than 50cms but underlying ground structure, river, estuaries etc create high difference tides, upto 70feet.
largejack
07-04-2010, 08:57 AM
I have been a fan of David since he broke ranks back in 89 but I am really confused by this new theory.
To me the moon is a symbol of the sacred feminine, a beautific and benign entity that controls the tides, the earths rhythms and the female cycle.
How can anything so powerful, ancient and spiritual (as the earth itself) be a man-made construct? I could buy the theory that there are forces on there controlling the earths people, nothing surprises me any more, but the moon itself a spaceship? I honestly dont believe theres any life forms out there clever enough to do this, it is to me a creation of the Divine, as is the earth. And if malign forces created it, why is the sea, its tides, the menstrual cycle so beautiful and life giving? These are the questions Id like answered.
I notice also there are no females on Davids new homepage logo, only men.
To me, a great new change is coming where the return of the feminine sacred will restore balance and peace to the earth and its people. I hope this all isnt just another step in the direction of patriarchy and male dominance, because that would be a backward step, and one I wouldnt expect from Mr Icke.
New Age stuff, the moon doesn't look very effeminate to me :D