What Planes?

[narcolepticwatchman]

A presentation on no plane theory by Morgan Reynolds

http://nomoregames.net/presentations/Madison_No_Planes_Final_August_07.ppt.htm

[dondaz]

So you too are punting the no plane theory, no wonder you went for me in that other thread.:eek:

I know you don't want me to reply to your post and if anyone speaks out about your theory, especially the mods, you are trying to use a psyop job of shutting us up with the lame excuse that we are out to stop you.

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What do you think your signature is all about. That's a psyop job in itself mate! Designed to get us to shut up and leave people like you to destroy our forum. Anyone with an ounce of intellegence can see what you're up to with that sig.

If you choose to punt the npt then state your case with your evidence. If I choose to counter then I will do so in any way I wish without fear of what you have to say or the trouble you will try to cause me because of what I say.

I've seen it all before mate. I know the dirty tricks that are pulled on here. We see it over and over. Agents are no good at pulling a psyop job against people who know, nor are their usfull idiots good at it either. That's a fact mate. He he he!

Anyway, on to your post. I hope you're sitting down for this one.

90% of that link you posted has nothing to do with no planes hitting the towers. Now, I wonder why that is?

Let's take a look shall we:

The image of the man jumping from the tower is thrown in to stir emotions.

There's the usual 'we've got to get the baddies for this', which in this case is designed to get the viewer in some sort of agreement with what they're viewing. A psyop job!

Light aircraft shredded by propellers of other light aircraft. WTF? Where's the connection to no planes hitting the towers? Distraction.

Comparing small light aircraft against huge jets is just too silly to get into. Distraction.

Comparing huge jets crash landing at low speed with jets blasting into the twins towers at over 500mph is another distraction under the guise of showing how strong they are. A video of a plane crashing into the sea? Where's it link to no planes hitting the two towers?

A vid that actually shows a distance shot of the two towers with a bit of text saying something about how the reporter wasn't looking at the building. Yet another distraction.

This is far reaching stuff mate!

All I see with the car accidents and mentioning suicide and deaths in the text, below the pics, is fear/shock tactics, therefore creating a more suceptable mind, newbies go away doubting thier own minds with the manipulation of it all!

The rest is not worth mentioning!

This is a bit of theoretical physics mixed with a portion of fear with the typical trappings of distraction and a side dish dis-info. It's all about creating false perceptions in your head folks.

Strange that there's no mention of Chennys involvement in ordering the planes to stand down.

Strange there's no mention of building 7.

Strange there's no mention of the dodgy commission report.

Strange there's no mention of Larry 'pull it' Silverstien.

That's a convenient little package of nonsense you're spreading on here.

Yep, I it's a psyop job alright!

I do not believe for a second you really believe in what you posted here.

Forget the insults and complaining to the other mods to try to stir more shit about me, stand on your own two feet and counter what information I have presented.

By the way, I'm just working on my own no plane theory thread, coming soon, you're gonna love it;)

[ekx_dissillusioned]

Why stop at no planes?

Have you ever seen, touched, smelt, tasted, or heard the twin towers, or the people in them?

Have you?

Why not go to say that all these thing never existed. They were always holograms and TV trickery.

Is that ridiculous? Is it?

Chew on that ya hologram huggers!

[picha]

Ihave to say I do find the no planes arguments quite convincing.

I dont see why people get so angry with no planers we all know it was an inside job anyway.

[masonfree party]

Why stop at no planes?

Have you ever seen, touched, smelt, tasted, or heard the twin towers, or the people in them?

Have you?

Why not go to say that all these thing never existed. They were always holograms and TV trickery.

Is that ridiculous? Is it?

Chew on that ya hologram huggers!


you're insulting the dead mate...ought to be ashamed of yourself

[narcolepticwatchman]

So you too are punting the no plane theory, no wonder you went for me in that other thread.:eek:

I know you don't want me to reply to your post and if anyone speaks out about your theory, especially the mods, you are trying to use a psyop job of shutting us up with the lame excuse that we are out to stop you.



What do you think your signature is all about. That's a psyop job in itself mate! Designed to get us to shut up and leave people like you to destroy our forum. Anyone with an ounce of intellegence can see what you're up to with that sig.

If you choose to punt the npt then state your case with your evidence. If I choose to counter then I will do so in any way I wish without fear of what you have to say or the trouble you will try to cause me because of what I say.

I've seen it all before mate. I know the dirty tricks that are pulled on here. We see it over and over. Agents are no good at pulling a psyop job against people who know, nor are their usfull idiots good at it either. That's a fact mate. He he he!

Anyway, on to your post. I hope you're sitting down for this one.

90% of that link you posted has nothing to do with no planes hitting the towers. Now, I wonder why that is?

Let's take a look shall we:

The image of the man jumping from the tower is thrown in to stir emotions.

There's the usual 'we've got to get the baddies for this', which in this case is designed to get the viewer in some sort of agreement with what they're viewing. A psyop job!

Light aircraft shredded by propellers of other light aircraft. WTF? Where's the connection to no planes hitting the towers? Distraction.

Comparing small light aircraft against huge jets is just too silly to get into. Distraction.

Comparing huge jets crash landing at low speed with jets blasting into the twins towers at over 500mph is another distraction under the guise of showing how strong they are. A video of a plane crashing into the sea? Where's it link to no planes hitting the two towers?

A vid that actually shows a distance shot of the two towers with a bit of text saying something about how the reporter wasn't looking at the building. Yet another distraction.

This is far reaching stuff mate!

All I see with the car accidents and mentioning suicide and deaths in the text, below the pics, is fear/shock tactics, therefore creating a more suceptable mind, newbies go away doubting thier own minds with the manipulation of it all!

The rest is not worth mentioning!

This is a bit of theoretical physics mixed with a portion of fear with the typical trappings of distraction and a side dish dis-info. It's all about creating false perceptions in your head folks.

Strange that there's no mention of Chennys involvement in ordering the planes to stand down.

Strange there's no mention of building 7.

Strange there's no mention of the dodgy commission report.

Strange there's no mention of Larry 'pull it' Silverstien.

That's a convenient little package of nonsense you're spreading on here.

Yep, I it's a psyop job alright!

I do not believe for a second you really believe in what you posted here.

Forget the insults and complaining to the other mods to try to stir more shit about me, stand on your own two feet and counter what information I have presented.

By the way, I'm just working on my own no plane theory thread, coming soon, you're gonna love it;)

Dondaz. Nice to see I irked you.

Firstly, my position on NPT has been made quite clear numerous times on this forum. just because now you decide to post sneering, childish nonsense following right up the arse of yer buddies like some snivelling sycophant does not mean I'm going to get into the same discussions with you. You have obviously been diggin through previous posts....do some more and you will see my arguments about the parts of the NPT and TV fakery theories which I feel hold water.

Now a quick few points about your post.....which I just happened to be sitting down for.....not sure I needed to be though as you haven't really given me much to think about here.

Firstly, the points you have labelled distraction show me that you have no clue as to what you are talking about. the whole premise of the presentation is to get people thinking more about the construction of planes ie relatively thin, fragile aluminium versus the structural steel that comprised the towers. So the fact that you have labelled the propellor damage as distraction shows me that you aint really been thinking about the content. Let me put it this way. If i give you a 6" angle grinder which can spin at 9000 rpm. now we convert that speed into mph and you will get roughly 240mph.....now put an aluminium disc on the grinder and hit some structural steel.....what you think is gonna win? I know what you are gonna say......'yeah but the plane was travelling at 500 mph and was full of fuel' but thats not the point. The point is to outline the mechanical properties of the SOFT metal called aluminium. The wings say no step etc. Now if you feel thats distraction, then you should get back to school.

2nd point was that the presentation readdresses newtons laws of motion. fundamental when considering such an issue....yet most people don't even seem to understand it and I would guess that includes you yet you think thats distraction? Consider this....try it for yourself even. One of the first things I learned at uni about materials selection and testing was that when materials are subject to rigourous mechanical testing ie tensile testing, fatigue testing, hardness etc, failure ALWAYS occurs at the weakest point without exception. Now, I take the point about a jet flying laden with fuel and the combined mass and speed creating forces (at points) which could potentially cut through sections of the steel, however, as i have said before, my major problem is the wings. Consider the outer extremities of the wings when considering the points above and just think how they are supposed to have sheared straight through the steel beams......before even a hint of an explosion. You telling me the wing tips are stronger, harder etc than the 14" square box columns? If you are, then I suggest you have no clue what on earth you are talking about.......And you don't believe I believe what I'm posting? Deary me.

3rd point....you are questioning why the presentation doesn't mention cheney, building 7 and the like.....whats the point...its been discussed to death by all of the researchers including those who push NPT.....and it aint the point of the presentation. If you saw Raynolds delivering his presentation you would realise that he actually delivers it at 911 conventions where ALL of the conspiracy theories are discussed and given their soapbox. its just on here that the opposition to it resort to the childish slander.....and don't even deny you have not been party to that.

This is why I rarely post on here anymore. its a joke.

[mr_pixie]

its a joke.

I agree. :D

[bipolar bear]

So you too are punting the no plane theory, no wonder you went for me in that other thread.:eek:

I know you don't want me to reply to your post and if anyone speaks out about your theory, especially the mods, you are trying to use a psyop job of shutting us up with the lame excuse that we are out to stop you.



What do you think your signature is all about. That's a psyop job in itself mate! Designed to get us to shut up and leave people like you to destroy our forum. Anyone with an ounce of intellegence can see what you're up to with that sig.

If you choose to punt the npt then state your case with your evidence. If I choose to counter then I will do so in any way I wish without fear of what you have to say or the trouble you will try to cause me because of what I say.

I've seen it all before mate. I know the dirty tricks that are pulled on here. We see it over and over. Agents are no good at pulling a psyop job against people who know, nor are their usfull idiots good at it either. That's a fact mate. He he he!

Anyway, on to your post. I hope you're sitting down for this one.

90% of that link you posted has nothing to do with no planes hitting the towers. Now, I wonder why that is?

Let's take a look shall we:

The image of the man jumping from the tower is thrown in to stir emotions.

There's the usual 'we've got to get the baddies for this', which in this case is designed to get the viewer in some sort of agreement with what they're viewing. A psyop job!

Light aircraft shredded by propellers of other light aircraft. WTF? Where's the connection to no planes hitting the towers? Distraction.

Comparing small light aircraft against huge jets is just too silly to get into. Distraction.

Comparing huge jets crash landing at low speed with jets blasting into the twins towers at over 500mph is another distraction under the guise of showing how strong they are. A video of a plane crashing into the sea? Where's it link to no planes hitting the two towers?

A vid that actually shows a distance shot of the two towers with a bit of text saying something about how the reporter wasn't looking at the building. Yet another distraction.

This is far reaching stuff mate!

All I see with the car accidents and mentioning suicide and deaths in the text, below the pics, is fear/shock tactics, therefore creating a more suceptable mind, newbies go away doubting thier own minds with the manipulation of it all!

The rest is not worth mentioning!

This is a bit of theoretical physics mixed with a portion of fear with the typical trappings of distraction and a side dish dis-info. It's all about creating false perceptions in your head folks.

Strange that there's no mention of Chennys involvement in ordering the planes to stand down.

Strange there's no mention of building 7.

Strange there's no mention of the dodgy commission report.

Strange there's no mention of Larry 'pull it' Silverstien.

That's a convenient little package of nonsense you're spreading on here.

Yep, I it's a psyop job alright!

I do not believe for a second you really believe in what you posted here.

Forget the insults and complaining to the other mods to try to stir more shit about me, stand on your own two feet and counter what information I have presented.

By the way, I'm just working on my own no plane theory thread, coming soon, you're gonna love it;)

Donaz, man Ive been a lurcker here for a while now and many things are not allowed to be discussed. Not because they are off topic or because they are rude or offencive but simply because sheepdogs like you dont want the sheep hearing them and damaging Icke INC. How many mods have come and gone? How long before you are used up and tossed away? Don't try and tell me Mods on here dont try and suppress freespeech. Laugh give me naughty points ban me do what ever you will but when the machine moves on you will be the one left with egg on your face.

No planes = crock of shit

[bipolar bear]

Ihave to say I do find the no planes arguments quite convincing.

I dont see why people get so angry with no planers we all know it was an inside job anyway.

Where were you when the body parts of the passengers were being collected?

[bipolar bear]

Why stop at no planes?

Have you ever seen, touched, smelt, tasted, or heard the twin towers, or the people in them?

Have you?

Why not go to say that all these thing never existed. They were always holograms and TV trickery.

Is that ridiculous? Is it?

Chew on that ya hologram huggers!


I did hear a woo woo claim all that a few days after the attacks.

[ekx_dissillusioned]

you're insulting the dead mate...ought to be ashamed of yourself


All of your posts are a direct insult to the 911 victims

[dondaz]

Dondaz. Nice to see I irked you.

You wish!

just because now you decide to post sneering, childish nonsense following right up the arse of yer buddies like some snivelling sycophant

Nice to see I irked you!;)


Firstly, my position on NPT has been made quite clear numerous times on this forum. just because now you decide to post sneering, childish nonsense following right up the arse of yer buddies like some snivelling sycophant does not mean I'm going to get into the same discussions with you. You have obviously been diggin through previous posts....do some more and you will see my arguments about the parts of the NPT and TV fakery theories which I feel hold water.


You are living in fantasy land mate. You know nothing about me or how I think. The information in that link you posted is a complete waste of time. I know what the intent of that site is for and the false perceptions it's putting out and it seems it has done its job on you and a few others here.

No planes theorists are creating problems all over the internet, that's a fact mate. All theory and wild conjecture!

Donaz, man Ive been a lurcker here for a while now and many things are not allowed to be discussed. Not because they are off topic or because they are rude or offencive but simply because sheepdogs like you dont want the sheep hearing them and damaging Icke INC. How many mods have come and gone? How long before you are used up and tossed away? Don't try and tell me Mods on here dont try and suppress freespeech. Laugh give me naughty points ban me do what ever you will but when the machine moves on you will be the one left with egg on your face.

Another one trying to create a false impression and alter people's perceptions about this forums mods. You think readers here will fall for those stunts? Yeah right! Keep lurking!

Again, counter the information I have presented debunking that site. But people won't will they. They'll come back with attacks on me, the mods and throw in a whole bunch of other waffle to stir the pot. I just hope a lot of newbies read this thread so they learn the ways of how the wicked work!:)

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u39/dazp5/drunk-santa-npt.jpg

[narcolepticwatchman]

You wish!



Nice to see I irked you!;)



You are living in fantasy land mate. You know nothing about me or how I think. The information in that link you posted is a complete waste of time. I know what the intent of that site is for and the false perceptions it's putting out and it seems it has done its job on you and a few others here.

No planes theorists are creating problems all over the internet, that's a fact mate. All theory and wild conjecture!



Thats your response to my post? what happened to ....

Forget the insults and complaining to the other mods to try to stir more shit about me, stand on your own two feet and counter what information I have presented.

Quite clearly I did that......wheres your retort to what I posted? Its no good just calling something distraction or a complete waste of time without any backup to your point.....i'm sitting doing calculations, coming up with easy to comprehend analogies and examples and all you can say is 'you're living in a fantasy land' or 'distraction' or 'waste of time'. Hardly decent argument or debate. I think someone has been blown out of the water.

BTW....your wild conjecture statement is silly. There is more than enough compelling evidence to back up the NPT & fakery theories.....shape shifting reptillians, now thats wild conjecture.....why aint you on the reppie board giving them a hard time? You are a walking contradiction.

I'm glad that other folk are voicing their distaste at your tactics and showing you up for what you really are. Dunno why I'm surprised though.....painfully obvious to tell the truth.

[dondaz]

Quite clearly I did that......wheres your retort to what I posted? Its no good just calling something distraction or a complete waste of time without any backup to your point.....i'm sitting doing calculations, coming up with easy to comprehend analogies and examples and all you can say is 'you're living in a fantasy land' or 'distraction' or 'waste of time'. Hardly decent argument or debate. I think someone has been blown out of the water.

BTW....your wild conjecture statement is silly. There is more than enough compelling evidence to back up the NPT & fakery theories.....shape shifting reptillians, now thats wild conjecture.....why aint you on the reppie board giving them a hard time? You are a walking contradiction.

I'm glad that other folk are voicing their distaste at your tactics and showing you up for what you really are. Dunno why I'm surprised though.....painfully obvious to tell the truth.

Yawn!

[graflok]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N2RrQWsGes

[number 6]

you're insulting the dead mate...ought to be ashamed of yourself

You insult the dead every time you post mate!

[number 6]

A presentation on no plane theory by Morgan Reynolds

http://nomoregames.net/presentations/Madison_No_Planes_Final_August_07.ppt.htm

Crap presentation that proves nothing!

[narcolepticwatchman]

Yawn!

LOL. Talk about ducking out. Obviously way over your head.

I just hope a lot of newbies read this thread so they learn the ways of how the wicked work!

And they shall......Painfully obvious aint it.

[narcolepticwatchman]

David Icke Forum - A place to speak freely on the internet*

*As long as the mods agree with you and your posts do not breach one of our many fascist, totalitarian guidelines**

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LOL - I can't believe you have taken away my signature....again!!!

Just proved me right. What a place.

[weston white]

What did your sig use to say?

[narcolepticwatchman]

What did your sig use to say?

Its quoted in my post directly above yours....not only that, it seems like they have taken away my facility to put a new signature on!!!! Talk about suppressing free speech....

[weston white]

Oh I thought that was quoting something from their slogan and guidelines. heh.