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john white

29-01-2007, 01:55 PM

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14615.htm

Check it out, cool "V" edit

"Art tells a lie to show the truth: Politics tells a lie to hide the truth"

nightchiller

01-02-2007, 02:34 AM

Wow that was pretty good

oceanwave

01-02-2007, 04:00 AM

agreed...

...'tis good indeed...

edelweiss pirate

01-02-2007, 12:24 PM

Ya... great movie but terrorism is not the answer... more PRS?

I posted this over at davidickeforum.com and thought I'd repost it here too:

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: V for Vendetta,Fight Club, The Matrix = Trojan Horse movies!

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I really enjoyed V for Vendetta when I saw it at the movie and felt elated, just as I did with the movie Fight Club, by the ending where a symbol of the power elite is destroyed...

Then I thought...

And I remembered something about Fight-Club. A movie about an underground network whose prime directive is not to talk about their organisation and whose leader undergoes an intense initiation experience and incidentally, suffered from MPD...

Do you see what I'm getting at now?

By the end of the movie we are presented with a terrorist attack, which we cheer on as supposing that this will bring the freedom from materialism we all desire..

A terrorist attack on TWO TOWERS..

Two years later we have 9-11...

Similarly in V for Vendetta we have an initiatory experience where the Evey symbolically 'dies' and is reborn. Classic secret society stuff which will have any watching Masons nodding in comprehension. By the end we also find ourselves cheering another terrorist attack. One that we imagine will bring freedom to our lives..

Of course the reality of an attack on parliament would mean that democracy and elected government would be replaced by martial law. Problem reaction solution.

Now, if you can imagine that the occult powers know how powerful the visualising ability of the human mind is at creating reality... Every invention, tool and object in the real world started as just an idea in someone's mind until that idea became real.. Similarly, a terrorist attack starts as an idea and if fed with concentraion and intent, becomes real..

Did the public who watched Fight Club and approved of the ending subconsciously shape the reality of 9-11. Or was the movie, at the very least, preparing the ground in some sense for just such an event. The coincidences are too significant and when one understands a little more about the nature of reality one learns that there are no coincidences only meaningful events which show a hidden power behind the working of our daily lives.

Could V for Vendetta then, be attempting to pave the way for another terrorist attack, this time against the British government which would seal the fate of our nation and usher in suspension of the democratic process and the police state..

I will add that the film is made by the same brothers who made Matrix.. And, although that film is extrememly empowering and enjoyable, it is a description of the secret society initiatory experience or 'illumination'. This becomes very much clearer when one considers the Illuminati cues such as 'Zion' and 'the architect' which feature in the film...

Odd isn't it.. Are these films really trojan horses which hide in the guise of waking up the people but in fact help to create the NWO agenda..

It is worth considering..

Cheers for listening...

2013

01-02-2007, 01:29 PM

knowledge may indeed be power , but is the power needed to create the agenda being taken from our concious / subconcious minds .Like you say the matrix movies v for vendetta fight club do present good evidence for people waking up .But by the same token if you want more power you plug into a bigger power source to supply it .Even the work of david icke and others like him is highlighting the agenda thus feeding the beast !It is not so simple to control our thoughts and not let them run away with themselves , worth keeping in mind ,mind you the more awakened and enlightened although enjoying such movies are aware that we can move into a new state of being without destroying the old order first .You dont fight for peace like the man said .You peace for peace and we can all have a piece , if we put them all together we can see the bigger picture

Ive just one more thing to say
if you look at it this way
the western world has had its day
it has its karma it must pay .

if we take our lead from the east
we could all exist in peace
all sit down attend the feast
all our karma then released

as the old order begins to fall
i say come one then come all
then no soul is left behind
as we enter sacred time.
:D

synergy777

01-02-2007, 02:39 PM

V for Vendetta
by Anonymous

Note: The following review was sent to WING TV by Vyzygoth, host of From the Grassy Knoll

V is of course a muti-layered film and, at one of the important levels, it has a historical story which most people do not know. Guy Fawkes was a Jesuit Roman/Vatican agent who, along with some other conspirators (in the true sense of the word), intended to blow up the English Parliament on its opening session (Nov. 5th), when the king would be present along with the rest of the members of parliament.

This is the famous Gundpowder Plot.

Fawkes was caught and executed. The intention of this plot was to bring England back into the fold of Rome, from which it had departed beginning with Henry VIII. This rift with Rome had grown greater under the reign of Elizabeth I--against whose life many attempts had been made by Jesuit/Roman agents. This continued under James I, who suceeded Elizabeth I in 1603, and was the king whose life had also been targeted by Fawkes and his associates.

In reality, Fawkes was anything but a victim: He had committed treason and suffered the consequences under English law. The movie paints his counterpart, V as a victim, which is not historically accurate regarding Fawkes.

But the real powerful symbolism in this movie is found in the two buildings that are blown up: the Old Bailey and the English Parliament. The Old Bailey represents conmon law, the very foundation of democracy and the freedoms that we enjoy today in western countries (especially those nations whose laws are based on English common law, i.e., England, Canada, the U.S., Australia and New Zealand in particular, but including as well all the commonwealth countries such as India).

Common law gave us two very important and foundational principles without which it is not possible to have a free society: 1) trial by jury; 2) innocent until proven guilty. The opposite of common law is canon law--the law of the Roman Catholic institution. This law is not religious but, rather, the constitution upon which all laws were formed in Catholic countries.

Under canon law no one except the pope has any rights, and this is as true today as it was in the middle ages. All rights are vested in the pope (more accurately in the men who control the office of the papacy), and it is the pope who distributes any and all rights as he pleases.

Thus under Canon law no one except the pope has any inherent rights. What Guy Fawkes had been contracted to do was to eliminate the protestant king and parliament thus paving the way for a Catholic, Rome-controlled monarch to be installed in the place of James I, thus replacing common law in England with canon law once again.

We are all too aware how fast our rights are eroding, and this movie sends the coded message (whether as a warning or a sign of the triumph of Rome) that common law has been blown away (the Old Bailey being blown up), exactly that which Guy Fawkes set out to do. And what will be left is canon law: all power and rights vested in a very few men who control government leaving the rest of us as serfs.

Even more troubling is the blowing up of the English Parliament, which brought us modern democracy and gave rights to common people, a concept that was pretty much unknown in the medieval world.

Three important freedoms that were granted to all people were freedom of the press; freedom of conscience; freedom of thought. Believe it or not, under canon law all three of these freedoms are anathemized, that is, they are cursed by canon law even today.

Yes, under canon law a man is not free to think for himself or to follow the dictates of his own conscience, but must bow to the will of the church. He is not free to think what is right or wrong, but must accept as right or wrong that which the church tells him is right or wrong.

Since England split from Rome in the 1500s, it has been the stated goal of Rome to bring England back to the fold. By blowing up her parliament, the most important symbol of freedom in the world (not the Statue of Liberty), the message is being conveyed that the experiment of parliamentary self-governance has come to an end. It is important that, in the movie, this event takes place after Guy Fawkes dies. The message, however, is that what Guy Fawkes died for has at last been accomplished 400 years after his death. Rome never forgets and Rome at last has its vendetta.

More foreboding messages in the movie are the destruction of the United States (and Canada by extension) through biowarfare and civil war, both distinct possibilities as many researchers have warned us. The movie on the surface may seem to be promoting freedom in the face of totalitarianism, but its symbols foreshadow a completely totalitarian world that will be brought about through disease, warfare, and "natural" disasters.

To those who believe that Rome is ancient history, keep these facts in mind: for the past 1000-plus years, all secret societies have directly or indirectly originated from within the Roman Catholic church. The Knights Templar, from whom came the Knights of Malta and Knights of Columbus, are all Catholic; the Jesuits, the Priory of Sion and, in more modern times, Opus Dei have all had their genesis in the Roman religion.

Freemasons are also an offshoot of the Knights Templar and very much in bed with the Vatican. The CIA was originally formed mostly by Nazi Germans who escaped Europe on Vatican passports. From its very beginning, the CIA and all other secret agencies (which is a more accurate term than intelligence agencies) have been tied to the Vatican.

So is the Vatican a spent force?

Hardly. And it is my assessment that V might even stand for VATICAN and, on a deeper level, shows the triumph of Rome and Roman canon law. V truly foreshadows the coming dark ages: rampant disease, civil wars, rioting, curfews, govenment agents everywhere, listening in on us, watching us, instilling fear everywhere, exactly as it happened all over Europe for 600-plus years of The Inquistion.

The first Matrix was a very intelligent movie, more so than V in my opinion, but I believe both movies are agenda movies. They seem to promise hope and freedom, but if we dissect them, the message both these movies convey is the opposite of hope and freedom.

Major Hollywood motion pictures always have an agenda. Movies such as V show us the problem, then offer a solution which furthers the agenda of the very totalitarianism they supposedly oppose.

History repeats itself because people do not know real history. Guy Fawkes was an enemy of free thought, and he represented the most totalitarian form of government ever conceived by man.

By having people wearing Guy Fawkes masks at the end of the movie, the movie makers make a mockery out of history and present the enslavers as the emancipators.

"There are none so hopelessly enslaved as those who think that they are free."

I know many folks might disagree with my interpretation of this film, but from a historical point of view, I think my conclusions are correct. I used to be accused of being some right wing Protestant. I was born and raised in India as a Sikh. I have no affiliation with any organized religion, but I am an avid student of history and call it the way I see it and, historically speaking, Guy Fawkes was no friend of the people.

john white

01-02-2007, 03:56 PM

Yeah, I've seen all the jesuit "V" theories: however, none of them address the original subject matter being the Graphic Novel with its distinctly anarchist/personal gnosis angle, so I reckon they are mostly projection. Also people miss the fact that V gave the choice on demoing Parliment to Evey: it was out of his hands. "V" knew he was a monster and thus destroyed himself, balancing the books

Back to 9/11, lot of parrells huh?

synergy777

01-02-2007, 04:24 PM

seamus

01-02-2007, 08:37 PM

Thanks for your POV, Synergy! The WingTV article was right-on, and this whole trojan movie thing has been stewing in the back of my head for years. I am glad someone finally articulated it for me!

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mercuryrapids

02-02-2007, 01:08 PM

Another film that should be on your shelves alongside V For Vendetta is Children of Men. It's an amazing movie, set in the future, but with lots of nods to what's going on today. Brilliant stuff.

2013

03-02-2007, 02:18 AM

concerning the films of keanu reeves matrix trilogy included , i have posted this before but it mysteriously disappeared !?! Anyway keanu Is he a KEY ANU as in anunnaki his band are called DOGSTAR sirius connection .He has starred in numerous alternative type movies such as bill and teds time travel adventures as well as playing little buddah . There is chain reaction tesla technology and constantine heaven hell good and evil themes .Johnny Mnemonic brain implants .The devils advocate apparently resisting temptation from his boss at a law firm run by the devil .freaked a company producing toxic chemiclas that produce mutants !johnathan harker in dracula bloodline reptile shapeshifter etc. He often portrays the good guy as in a scanner darkly as the unwitting agent used t otry and bring about the truth about the governments involvement in the drug trade .Also he flys like superman in the matrix movies and shares a surname with christopher and george two former supermen.Is he perhaps an aspect of ENKI one of the suns of the god Anu According to the ancient Sumerian texts, Anu, had two sons. They were Enki (Ea), as in (k EA nu) and Enlil (Ilu).Enki was the one who tried to assist mankind ! Do a web search for more info on the anunnaki and enki .You can only hit the snooze button so many times b4 you have to wake up :D

edelweiss pirate

03-02-2007, 08:30 AM

John the graphic novel is almost exactly the same as the film... except the copper doesn't do an acid trip in the movie....

And John, you argue when there's no argument my friend..

The point is entirely the idea of personal gnosis, a secret society technique..

Or does Disneyland now provide a personal gnosis experience?... Doubt it!

Do Pizza Hut do a home delivery stuffed crust gnostic pizza with peperoni?

No no and no no....

So dear John, where does one get a personal gnosis experience that does not involve falluting with potentially evil secret society people.....?

Because that is entirely my point. V for Vendetta is a SECRET SOCIETY MOVIE!

PS, 2013 is an uber genius....

I've got a similar theory about Brad Pitt... Fight Club (underground schizoid secret society) Meet Joe Black (plays Death himself) Kalifornia (plays a scumbag) 12 Monkeys (plays a delusional schizoid terrorist... or does he? lol) Interview with a vampire (plays a vampire: allegory for secret society schizo-gnosticism).... any more... Oh yeah, Mr and Mrs Smith (plays a mind controlled assassin who is suddenly 'triggered' to kill his equally MK'd wife..

AND THE KILLER... His name: Brad PITT (as in, the pit into which satan will be thrown...etc)

If Tom Cruise is the Scientology messiah Pitt is the antichrist...

2013

03-02-2007, 01:38 PM

I've got a similar theory about Brad Pitt... Fight Club (underground schizoid secret society) Meet Joe Black (plays Death himself) Kalifornia (plays a scumbag) 12 Monkeys (plays a delusional schizoid terrorist... or does he? lol) Interview with a vampire (plays a vampire: allegory for secret society schizo-gnosticism).... any more... Oh yeah, Mr and Mrs Smith (plays a mind controlled assassin who is suddenly 'triggered' to kill his equally MK'd wife..

AND THE KILLER... His name: Brad PITT (as in, the pit into which satan will be thrown...etc)

If Tom Cruise is the Scientology messiah Pitt is the antichrist...[/QUOTE]

yes of course they are all at it in la la land ,and i dont mean the teletubbies homedome based on silbury hill by the way.Holy wood the dream factory creating our illusions.I used to be so immersed in the whole vampire thing anne rice etc christopher lee , (saruman -Lord Summerisle wickerman , check out his filmography IMDB.com )dracula hammer movies since childhood.You cant see it when your in it .Anne rice has a new novel out now about the life of the boy jesus, early christian cults where vampire cults in some cases this is my blood etc . bruce willis (born in west germany )- mr lets get those terrorists ,Die Hard links in with brad pitt thru 12 monkeys .Amogst others armaggedon , apocalypse,the fifth element hudson hawk , vatican da vinci stuff there , sixth sens unbreakable etc all too numerous to mention .Strange how sometimes the actor doesnt seem right for the part in a movie is that because they use their place men or women (yes thank you reg )Dont get me started on the monty PYTHON's Holy Grail Life of Brian and the Meaning of Life .Of course we could choose to see all this as good wholesome entertainment lol.:rolleyes:
As for the pit reference Ingrid aside countess dracula bathory !
Madame ~Blavatsky stated that scorpio was the bottomless pit thru wich all matter descends .Astrologically scorpio rules sex and death and secrets . It also rules the reproductive system so if thru sex we are reincarnated continually to experience this 3-d world then it is a bottomless pit .The other bottomless pit of this modern age being cyber space ,and bill gates being a scorpio Gate way to the cyber world .I read that his company had been doing terminator type experiments to graft human skin onto metal etc .He is a collector of da vinci' manuscripts .I also read but cant recall the source that in the windows 95 version there was a hidden hall of lost souls programmed into it .Just some thoughts ,after all it may be all we are .:D

edelweiss pirate

03-02-2007, 02:11 PM

yes of course they are all at it in la la land ,and i dont mean the teletubbies homedome based on silbury hill by the way.Holy wood the dream factory creating our illusions.I used to be so immersed in the whole vampire thing anne rice etc christopher lee , (saruman -Lord Summerisle wickerman , check out his filmography IMDB.com )dracula hammer movies since childhood.You cant see it when your in it .Anne rice has a new novel out now about the life of the boy jesus, early christian cults where vampire cults in some cases this is my blood etc . bruce willis (born in west germany )- mr lets get those terrorists ,Die Hard links in with brad pitt thru 12 monkeys .Amogst others armaggedon , apocalypse,the fifth element hudson hawk , vatican da vinci stuff there , sixth sens unbreakable etc all too numerous to mention .Strange how sometimes the actor doesnt seem right for the part in a movie is that because they use their place men or women (yes thank you reg )Dont get me started on the monty PYTHON's Holy Grail Life of Brian and the Meaning of Life .Of course we could choose to see all this as good wholesome entertainment lol.:rolleyes:
As for the pit reference Ingrid aside countess dracula bathory !
Madame ~Blavatsky stated that scorpio was the bottomless pit thru wich all matter descends .Astrologically scorpio rules sex and death and secrets . It also rules the reproductive system so if thru sex we are reincarnated continually to experience this 3-d world then it is a bottomless pit .The other bottomless pit of this modern age being cyber space ,and bill gates being a scorpio Gate way to the cyber world .I read that his company had been doing terminator type experiments to graft human skin onto metal etc .He is a collector of da vinci' manuscripts .I also read but cant recall the source that in the windows 95 version there was a hidden hall of lost souls programmed into it .Just some thoughts ,after all it may be all we are .:D[/QUOTE]

Trully amazing stuff 2013, you've nailed it all perfectly. The thing is we tend not to call all this stuff by its real name ie. satanic programming but to us it is known as 'culture'. And we adore these fantasy murderers as 'stars'.
And many of us feel bad that we can't be like them. Boy, they got us and they got us good huh... Damn schizo-gnostics...

john white

03-02-2007, 02:54 PM

john was just offering another angle/view, always best to have all views, 360 thinking. personally i adopted v's signature facial hair, just looking for me natalie portman now, lol let the rebeliion/liberation begin.

I'm all for it: especially the Natalie Portman. If I was anakin skywalkier, I'd have given up the galactic domination thing and legged it with her in a shot ("anakin, its not to late to come away from all this" etc).

where does one get a personal gnosis experience that does not involve falluting with potentially evil secret society people.....?

From seeking the creator with a true heart? Strange question that. I've had zero to do with strange secret society people and lots to do with my creator, and generally consider that healthy

Another film that should be on your shelves alongside V For Vendetta is Children of Men. It's an amazing movie, set in the future, but with lots of nods to what's going on today. Brilliant stuff.

Very true: powerful stuff that film, deserving of much more attention, and scrutiny. For instance: did the "Human Project" cause the infertility?

edelweiss pirate

03-02-2007, 03:08 PM

But do you know what gnosis really is?

It's more a curse than a blessing... I liken it to being equipped with a magnifying glass for the benefit of examining a turd...

Life can be nice here, but imagine being 'enlightened' to our TRUE condition. A pure and innocent soul awakening on earth... how long do you think you could last before going head mental and they do John they do.... mental homes and masonic lodges are often indistinguishable from one another...

Still don't know why you feel the need to argue with me... but you did that back on the original forum, guess you want to be righter than me right..lol

john white

03-02-2007, 03:18 PM

urza

12-10-2008, 07:06 PM

LOL Nice try Guy Fawkes was a great English Roman Catholic revolutionarie, We know all your black pope garbage and its only the fine work of the freemansons. Protestant are Freemason king James Pawns the plot was to stop them from the roots ...

Guy Fawkes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You britts follow the demonic when burning him every Guy Fawke day nov 5th, Thats ok we got your heretic templars ... And smile every friday 13th

http://blather.net/img/featured/lewes/IMG_3980_guy_fawkes.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3c/Fawkes_Political_Poster.jpg