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zephiloyd
07-03-2010, 01:49 AM
I thought this would have been picked up on, seems not, unless I have missed it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/mar/04/lords-digital-economy-bill


One of the most contentious parts of the controversial digital economy bill was voted down by the House of Lords last night – only to be replaced by a clause that campaigners say is even more draconian.

The Liberal Democrats forced through a surprise amendment to the bill's notorious clause 17 on Wednesday – in a move that dealt a defeat to the government but troubled critics, who suggest it will have the opposite effect that its creators intend.

Instead of sweeping new powers that threatened sweeping alterations to British copyright law, the Lib Dems added a clause that gives extra oversight to the high court.

The new proposal – which was passed in the House of Lords by 165 votes to 140 – gives a high court judge the right to issue an injunction against a website accused of hosting a "substantial" amount of copyright infringing material, potentially forcing the entire site offline.

Putting forward the amendment, Lib Dem peer Lord Clement-Jones said that it would placate concerns over the so-called "three strikes" rule – which could see those accused of sharing files illegally online having their internet connections cut off – and added that it was a "more proportionate, specific and appropriate" way to approach infringement than the previous proposals made by the government.

"I believe this is going to send a powerful message to our creative industries that we value what they do, that we want to protect what they do, that we do not believe in censoring the internet but we are responding to genuine concerns," he said.

But instead of making the proposed system more transparent and accountable, critics say it will simply leave it open to abuse.

"This would open the door to a massive imbalance of power in favour of large copyright holding companies," said Jim Killock, executive director of the Open Rights Group. "Individuals and small businesses would be open to massive 'copyright attacks' that could shut them down, just by the threat of action."

"This is exactly how libel law works today: suppressing free speech by the unwarranted threat of legal action. The expense and the threat are enough to create a 'chilling effect'."

In particular, there are concerns that the amendment could follow in the footsteps of America's controversial Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which has been accused of encouraging companies to file bogus copyright claims to block material they dislike.

The high costs and dangers of dealing with copyright claims in court mean that many web hosts simply take down the material in question without checking whether the copyright case is legitimate – even going as far as shutting down entire websites in some cases.

Just last week the well-known whistleblower website Cryptome was taken offline when Microsoft attempted to suppress the publication of its so-called "spy guide" by issuing a copyright claim under the DMCA.

When the site's service provider received Microsoft's request, it not only blocked the document in question but also effectively removed the entire Cryptome site from the web.

Microsoft eventually retracted its claim in order to let the site – which had stayed online for years despite numerous run-ins with other companies and US government agencies – go back online.

The new amendment could also have dire implications for websites like YouTube, where users can upload copyright-infringing material without the knowledge of the site's owners.

The video sharing site, which is owned by Google, is already subject to a $1bn lawsuit by US media giant Viacom – but argues that it cannot screen every video that goes onto its site to check whether it infringes copyright. Given the large amounts of material hosted on the site, however, the whole thing could potentially be blocked by the high court.

Lilian Edwards, a cyberlaw expert at Sheffield University, said that the new proposals had some benefits but also had sweeping downsides.

"For the first time, Sony and the rest can now go to court and demand that every ISP in the UK blocks YouTube," she wrote.

"There will in reality be no, or few, court applications - just non-publicised notifications. This is essentially legislation for cover extralegal censorship for the benefit of entrenched private interests."

Such concerns mark only the latest controversy attached to the digital economy bill, which has caused upset since it was first proposed last year.

On Monday, Lord Puttnam said that the scheme was being rushed through parliament without sufficient scrutiny, and that legislators were subject to an "extraordinary degree of lobbying" from copyright holders.

The bill must pass through the House of Lords before it can be put before the Commons and turned into law. Reading continues in the Lords on Monday.

girlgye
07-03-2010, 03:00 AM
They need to study FMOL. Who the eff gives the effers the consent any how. Freaks in wigs. Now I ask you?

Companies with all that money could train people and pay them to come up with their legal remedies. No Google is part of the conspiracy.

Start getting your own video channels together. Don't become dependent on you tube.

Eff em. I'm sick to the back teeth of these ninnies shoving me around for their own ends.

All about the money innit? Well it's a bout time we put the money down.

anyuser
07-03-2010, 06:40 AM
yeah I don't know but fight back however you can. get a vpn such as www.itshidden.com or others. Combat this threat/fight back. A virtual Privacy Network will at least save you from being logged and is pretty much essential these days.

free thinker
07-03-2010, 08:15 AM
As i see it, it's like a drainage problem in the sewer, big turds tend to block everything up...

*UK summed up nicely* :D

iaintoff
07-03-2010, 09:21 AM
YUP but the shit and piss backs up until the sewer bursts it's pipe...

the internet will just find another route through, it will just re-route and adapt.:)

frase
07-03-2010, 10:02 AM
yeah I don't know but fight back however you can. get a vpn such as www.itshidden.com or others. Combat this threat/fight back. A virtual Privacy Network will at least save you from being logged and is pretty much essential these days.

Is It's hidden free?

lhaull
07-03-2010, 10:13 AM
ACTA leaked chapter can be found at
http://www.edri.org/files/acta_FAQ_100222.pdf
I don't know how accurate it is but it has some interesting points nonetheless.

guuna
07-03-2010, 10:15 AM
Already quite a few videos on there are blocked from use to UK isp's.

The decision to take-down alot of music videos seems to have backfired too.

subl1minal
07-03-2010, 10:24 AM
yeah I don't know but fight back however you can. get a vpn such as www.itshidden.com or others. Combat this threat/fight back. A virtual Privacy Network will at least save you from being logged and is pretty much essential these days.

Should I be suspicious that it's quick to keep telling me it's Free?

refusetoconsent
07-03-2010, 10:45 AM
They need to study FMOL. Who the eff gives the effers the consent any how. Freaks in wigs. Now I ask you?

Companies with all that money could train people and pay them to come up with their legal remedies. No Google is part of the conspiracy.

Start getting your own video channels together. Don't become dependent on you tube.

Eff em. I'm sick to the back teeth of these ninnies shoving me around for their own ends.

All about the money innit? Well it's a bout time we put the money down.

all about the money is so correct, and the driving force behind any legislation on an apparent social evil.
my heart bleeds for these huge companies and thier huge profits, they should just grow a pair.
if these companies want to round people up, fining them, and disconnecting internet, will they still expect an army of brain washed loyal and valued customers ?

willnotbesilenced
07-03-2010, 10:57 AM
I dont believe the Government is even bothered about copyright.

As I see it, musicians ect have complained and gov now see that
as a good excuse for both `tracking` AND `censoring` (even shutting
down) the websites (like YouTube) which are a thorn in THEIR side.
More: Problem > Reaction > Solution !!

Think about WHY would UK gov be worried about copyright?
We`re already talking about a bunch of crims who have falsified
their expenses !!

(although not directly related) : they can never claim they want
to cut back on porn - not after Jackie Whats-her-name was caught
submitting an `expense` which included porny vids for her hubby.

Neither can they claim they want to stop paedophilia.... not after
the way in which we`ve seen how they themselves cover it up.

Protecting copyright is, imho, just ONE BIG EXCUSE.

I do believe that copyright should be respected - but if they were
to take YouTube down thats punishing everybody and that is NOT
fair.

picha
07-03-2010, 02:12 PM
yeah I don't know but fight back however you can. get a vpn such as www.itshidden.com or others. Combat this threat/fight back. A virtual Privacy Network will at least save you from being logged and is pretty much essential these days.

Cyberghost VPN is free. Takes about 15 mins to connect though.

the apprentice
07-03-2010, 02:59 PM
Its really starting to hurt them ins't it, and they must be reeling in their beds and loosing sleep knowing that their profits and secretive fould play is being slowly curtailed.

Senator Rockefeller wants to shut down the internet! - YouTube

...

Listen to the possible false flag attacks he mentions, electricity main frames, and banking systems, which is his main fear I guess, if the bank routes of wire go down they will loose all that funny money into cyberspace, just like all the FBI records in WTC7, Heh ;) how in-unconvenient for them all.

the apprentice
07-03-2010, 03:02 PM
Cyberghost VPN is free. Takes about 15 mins to connect though.

Nothing in life is really free is it and 15 minutes to connect is more than enough time to completely copy all that there is on anyones computer, no direct wire to the W's3 is safe, period.

willnotbesilenced
07-03-2010, 03:14 PM
Nothing in life is really free is it and 15 minutes to connect is more than enough time to completely copy all that there is on anyones computer, no direct wire to the W's3 is safe, period.




Spot on.
WHY would they be offering it FREE if they were getting nothing
back in return ? Who`s paying them ? and for what ?

For all ppl know it could be run by the CIA - after all many
believe that FaceBook is.

No doubt tptb have seen this day coming when ppl would try
and protect all their data, and as such they got in first and
set up traps which they knew ppl would walk into believing
it was safe.

Trust NOTHING.... TRUST no one... thats my motto. :D

anyuser
08-03-2010, 06:12 PM
Is It's hidden free?
yes
Should I be suspicious that it's quick to keep telling me it's Free?
no