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protos
05-03-2010, 03:56 PM
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=10575
CNN claims Communism has been :confused:good for women.
zero1
05-03-2010, 05:34 PM
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=10575
CNN claims Communism has been :confused:good for women.
It is the natural social organization under women, and therefore good for women.
bobbydiva
05-03-2010, 07:26 PM
It is the natural social organization under women, and therefore good for women.
of course it is :rolleyes:
zero1
05-03-2010, 08:18 PM
Of course it is. :rolleyes:
Tempted to just post a few smilies in response to your sarcasm, maybe this lot - :D:cool::p:(;)
veritasvoice
05-03-2010, 08:33 PM
It's true...communism has offered equal loss of reproductive choice for women, forced abortions, executions, starvation and absolute loss of individual rights. Anyone seen the statistics for birth control in China lately, with women being culled so fiercely that there is a massive population imbalance?
I love how it points out that "women were invited to join the labor force"...
What an absolute joke.
zero1
05-03-2010, 08:42 PM
It's true...communism has offered equal loss of reproductive choice for women, forced abortions, executions, starvation and absolute loss of individual rights. Anyone seen the statistics for birth control in China lately, with women being culled so fiercely that there is a massive population imbalance? I love how it points out that "women were invited to join the labor force"...What an absolute joke.
Three points -
1) If women were to build a society of their own design, including men but not by men, it would almost certainly be Communistic in the truest sense of the word.
2) What you all mean by 'communism' in the historical sense of the Soviets, modern China etc is not real communism at all.
3) There has never been real, authentic Communism achieved in the world as yet, Marxism was just an attempt to build Commuism working to a plan, but it never happened. Most 'communist' states never got beyond the State Capitalist 'intermediary' stage and most never intended (sincerely) to do so, for that would mean relinquishing monoploy control and Party power.
As for women, a quick appraisal of the links betwen the movements of feminism and communism should tell you where the ideologies crossover and meet. Many researchers in this field and elsewhere have remarked on the semblance and shared values of communism and feminism.
unusual_suspect
05-03-2010, 08:46 PM
I have seen interviews with women from East Germany who said that being a mother, even a single mother was great, they could work, had housing and childcare and they felt safe and looked after, it wasn't all bad.
zero1
05-03-2010, 08:56 PM
I have seen interviews with women from East Germany who said that being a mother, even a single mother was great, they could work, had housing and childcare and they felt safe and looked after, it wasn't all bad.
Yes, even the incomplete historical versions of 'communism' were better for women and women's rights than any Capitalist society is today in terms of raw benefits and entitlements.
veritasvoice
05-03-2010, 09:27 PM
2) What you all mean by 'communism' in the historical sense of the Soviets, modern China etc is not real communism at all.
3) There has never been real, authentic Communism achieved in the world as yet, Marxism was just an attempt to build Communism working to a plan, but it never happened. Most 'communist' states never got beyond the State Capitalist 'intermediary' stage and most never intended (sincerely) to do so, for that would mean relinquishing monoploy control and Party power.
One point:
Karl Marx was related to the Rothschilds.
On 22 October 1806 in London Nathan Mayer Rothschild married Hannah Barent-Cohen (1783–1850), daughter of Levi Barent-Cohen (1747–1808) and wife Lydia Diamantschleifer and paternal granddaughter of Barent Cohen and wife, whose other son Salomon David Barent-Cohen (d. 1807) married Sara Brandes, great-grandparents of Karl Marx.
http://www.geneall.net/U/per_page.php?id=318477
Is it really a coincidence that this system claims to offer "equality" and freedom for the working class in exchange for individual rights, but in practice always manifests state-controlled corporatism with a bureaucratic ruling elite?
grenadene
05-03-2010, 09:42 PM
One point:
Karl Marx was related to the Rothschilds.
http://www.geneall.net/U/per_page.php?id=318477
Is it really a coincidence that this system claims to offer "equality" and freedom for the working class in exchange for individual rights, but in practice always manifests state-controlled corporatism with a bureaucratic ruling elite?
Karl Marx did not invent 'communism'... it's one of the most fundamental ways that people organise themselves. Community spirit, looking after ones tribe, collaboration using the resources available....it's hardly alien to the human psyche. The Rothschilds pop up wherever there's a movement that might cause them trouble, so their presence doesn't always mean they've masterminded the plot.
Excellent posts btw zero1
meksar
05-03-2010, 09:46 PM
Fuck Communism it is another Zionist trick and Stalin killed a lot more then Hitler did and the people he killed is not over inflated. Communism has a very bad effect on working class area's and has ultimately destroyed a traditional family environment, of course men will always get the blame and we never get to hear both sides of the story.
grenadene
05-03-2010, 09:54 PM
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white rabbit
05-03-2010, 10:59 PM
Three points -
1) If women were to build a society of their own design, including men but not by men, it would almost certainly be Communistic in the truest sense of the word.
yes, and it will be good, but it will only last like 5 seconds until it turns like soviets, china and the elite will rule it
2) What you all mean by 'communism' in the historical sense of the Soviets, modern China etc is not real communism at all.
same with capitalism, actually all systems are "good" if we judge by their definitions
3) There has never been real, authentic Communism achieved in the world as yet, Marxism was just an attempt to build Commuism working to a plan, but it never happened. Most 'communist' states never got beyond the State Capitalist 'intermediary' stage and most never intended (sincerely) to do so, for that would mean relinquishing monoploy control and Party power.
As for women, a quick appraisal of the links betwen the movements of feminism and communism should tell you where the ideologies crossover and meet. Many researchers in this field and elsewhere have remarked on the semblance and shared values of communism and feminism.
comunism means that everyone is equal, by definition no machism(not sure about the word in english) or feminism can achieve it(they want more rights for a specific genre and less for the other), and comunism(the good one) wont work as it should be(turn bad), becuse as you say always a group take control, but even if feminism want a comunism(the good one and equal for all) as you say, are you sure that the "actual" feminism ideology goes that way?
How I know the comunism cnn is pushing is the same good and real comunism not good only for women but for everyone, and not just a way to push women into the feminism for the elite´s agenda(abortions, control of people, destroy family, etc)?
how much time a communism with equal rights will last without being "infected" in an era where the TV can decide who is the next president regardless of the votes of people without any politician executed or goverment building destroyed?