View Full Version : David Icke's eggshell of fear metaphor is wrong
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 08:21 AM
Fear is not like an eggshell around the person. Fear is like an inner core of ice within the person.
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 08:29 AM
The eggshell David Icke mistakingly has seen as fear is the hardened shell of personal protection created as a reflection of/response to the fear.
gorgeousbutterfly
29-09-2007, 08:33 AM
where does he say that? i need to see a quote. thanxs
28th kingdom
29-09-2007, 09:03 AM
Fear is like an egg omelet... deep fried in chocolate with lots of syrup and candle spinkles on top.
where does he say that? i need to see a quote. thanxs
He says it often, in his books and in his talks.
this is from The Biggest Secret
The question, however, is this: How much of this ocean are we connecting with? If it is a tiny fraction you will live in a cocoon, an eggshell as I call it, delinked from your infinite potential for knowledge, love, understanding and wisdom. You will live a predictable life dominated by worry and fear and believe that you are ordinary and powerless to control your own destiny. If you open your mind and open your heart and break out of that cocoon you connect with more and more of infinity and, in doing so, you understand that you are more than a physical body experiencing one meaningless lifetime. You are infinite consciousness experiencing this world as part of your eternal journey of evolution through experience. You are everything and you have the potential to know everything and do everything what we are experiencing now. If we make new choices, we will create different consequences.
He is not saying it is an eggshell of fear. He is saying that whilst we stay safely in our cocoon, through fear, we are not opening up to the infinite consciousness that we are.
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 10:25 AM
where does he say that? i need to see a quote. thanxs
I remember hearing David Icke calling it the eggshell of fear, but maybe I don't remember it correctly. I apologize in that case.
I remember hearing David Icke calling it the eggshell of fear, but maybe I don't remember it correctly. I apologize in that case.
Nah, he may well have said that but his meaning, from my understanding, is that while we live in fear, our perspective is trapped within the cocoon/eggshell and we are unable to see the big picture.
No need to apologise :)
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 11:24 AM
Nah, he may well have said that but his meaning, from my understanding, is that while we live in fear, our perspective is trapped within the cocoon/eggshell and we are unable to see the big picture.
No need to apologise :)
Yes, I did some web searches and what David Icke says is that the eggshell disconnects us from our infinite selves.
But still, I think we can distinguish between the eggshell as being the wall of personal protection created by our fear which is an inner thing, and the horror is that society seems to encourage the fortification of that eggshell, just as David Icke has explained.
The fear is an inner personal core of frozen energy. Focus like a laser beam on melting that fear and the hardened eggshell will dissolve along with it for that is just a manufactured reflection of our innermost fears.
28th kingdom
29-09-2007, 11:39 AM
Anders... seems you like playing Devil's Advocate... maybe you overthink too much.
john white
29-09-2007, 11:57 AM
The eggshell is the barrier of the ego-self: fear is the principle means by which consciousness is persuaded to continue to maintain that barrier
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 12:00 PM
Anders... seems you like playing Devil's Advocate... maybe you overthink too much.
I think we need both thinking and emotions. Rational thinking is higher than emotions on the 'bits and pieces' level, but emotions are the massive below the tip of the iceberg. A thorough integration of rational thinking and emotions is needed.
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 12:05 PM
The eggshell is the barrier of the ego-self: fear is the principle means by which consciousness is persuaded to continue to maintain that barrier
And that barrier is needed to maintain individuality. The problem is that in our society and throughout history it seems, that barrier has been made too rigid, too non-inclusive by constant reinforcement through a concocted hierarchical power elite agenda.
joss classey
29-09-2007, 12:30 PM
fear is the piece of shit on the underside of my illusory shoe
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 12:38 PM
fear is the piece of shit on the underside of my illusory shoe
Ha! Don't be surprised if you find the shit in you underwear instead after having shit yourself because of the great, great fear of the bogeyman called Al CIAda or something like that. :D
john white
29-09-2007, 06:53 PM
And that barrier is needed to maintain individuality. The problem is that in our society and throughout history it seems, that barrier has been made too rigid, too non-inclusive by constant reinforcement through a concocted hierarchical power elite agenda.
Absolutely. Its supposed to be a permiable barrier, not an impermiable one. Of coruse, what it really is, is the boundary a temporary vortex
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 07:37 PM
Absolutely. Its supposed to be a permiable barrier, not an impermiable one. Of coruse, what it really is, is the boundary a temporary vortex
That's a good metaphor. A permeable barrier is how the cell membrane functions. Signal receptors on the surface of the cell membrane read the environment and use that information to precisely control the inflow and outflow of molecules between the cell and its environment. The human mind should operate in the same way and have a skillfully controlled inflow and outflow of information, not a rigid and hardened shell. The cell membrane acts as a protective shell, but only when the signal receptors report threats in the near environment. The cell walling itself off from the environment is a useful protection. But that protection is only meant for temporary situations. The human mind has a protective shell all the time!
chris
29-09-2007, 08:17 PM
Fear is like an egg omelet... deep fried in chocolate with lots of syrup and candle spinkles on top.
Don't man, I'm on a fast!
tinmenace
29-09-2007, 08:28 PM
Fear is not like an eggshell around the person. Fear is like an inner core of ice within the person.
From David's perspective, it's like an eggshell. This is how he senses it.
Your perspective is it's an inner core of ice.
David is not wrong about what he feels. It's his truth.
goatboyhicks
29-09-2007, 08:30 PM
it doesn´t matter either way
Anders Lindman
29-09-2007, 08:43 PM
From David's perspective, it's like an eggshell. This is how he senses it.
Your perspective is it's an inner core of ice.
David is not wrong about what he feels. It's his truth.
After I had posted this thread I did a research about how David has described this eggshell and he describes it more as a disconnection than as fear. So the title of this thread is misleading in that sense.
What I did not find David describing is the clear separation between the fear itself, and the eggshell which is the result of the fear but the eggshell is not itself fear. This clear separation between fear and the protective shell is valid and real I think. The protective shell is an actual thing and not just a metaphor. And even if the shell is related to fear it is itself not fear.
spiritualone
30-09-2007, 04:12 AM
The "eggshell" David Icke is referring to is being trapped in the impenetrable barrier of the collective human mind which is ruled by fear. Barbara Hand Clow explained this well in The Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. The collective mind is the totality of the dualistic thoughforms of humantiy in the 4th dimension. The Annunaki archetypes - the "elite" are the keepers of the 4th dimension, keeping humanity within this barrier via various forms of fear. Once we can break out of this cycle by remaining present in the now and detaching from the reactionary mindset of others and to what is happening outside of ourselves, this "eggshell" starts to soften and we can begin to allow the higher dimensional (5D+) realms to shine through in to our physical 3D realm.