Thatcher under Nuclear Fire

[rodin]

Margaret Thatcher forced François Mitterrand to give her the codes to disable Argentina's deadly French-made missiles during the Falklands war by threatening to launch a nuclear warhead against Buenos Aires, according to a book.

Rendez-vous - the psychoanalysis of François Mitterrand, by Ali Magoudi, who met the late French president up to twice a week in secrecy at his Paris practice from 1982 to 1984, also reveals that Mr Mitterrand believed he would get his "revenge" by building a tunnel under the Channel which would forever destroy Britain's island status.

The book, to be published on Friday, is one of several on France's first Socialist president to mark the 10th anniversary of his death on January 8 1996. Despite a now tarnished reputation, he remains a source of fascination for the French in general and the left in particular. Rendez-vous provides revealing insights into the man's mysterious character, complicated past, paranoia and power complex, but nothing as titillating as his remarks on the former British prime minister.

"Excuse me. I had a difference to settle with the Iron Lady. That Thatcher, what an impossible woman!" the president said as he arrived, more than 45 minutes late, on May 7 1982. "With her four nuclear submarines in the south Atlantic, she's threatening to unleash an atomic weapon against Argentina if I don't provide her with the secret codes that will make the missiles we sold the Argentinians deaf and blind." He reminded Mr Magoudi that on May 4 an Exocet missile had struck HMS Sheffield. "To make matters worse, it was fired from a Super-Etendard jet," he said. "All the matériel was French!"

In words that the psychoanalyst has sworn to the publisher, Meren Sell, are genuine, the president continued: "She's livid. She blames me personally for this new Trafalgar ... I was obliged to give in. She's got them now, the codes."

Mr Mitterrand - who once described Mrs Thatcher as "the eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe" - went on: "One cannot win against the insular syndrome of an unbridled Englishwoman. Provoke a nuclear war for a few islands inhabited by three sheep as hairy as they are freezing! But it's a good job I gave way. Otherwise, I assure you, the Lady's metallic finger would have hit the button."

France, he insisted, would have the last word. "I'll build a tunnel under the Channel. I'll succeed where Napoleon III failed. And do you know why she'll accept my tunnel? I'll flatter her shopkeeper's spirit. I'll tell her it won't cost the Crown a penny."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/nov/22/books.france

Poster's note

The Marxist Grauniad is a vile propaganda organ of the Sanhedrin in the UK

[waylander]

Thatcher was a truly great PM.:)

We need her like again.

Waylander:cool:

[tinyint]

This supports the info I read that UK had nukes themselves on route to Falklands.

Let's see if I find the source again.

[bones]

Thatcher was a truly great PM.:)

We need her like again.

Waylander:cool:

you are a silly cunt... no offence way..

[waylander]

you are a silly cunt... no offence way..

None taken.:)

Waylander:cool:

[tinyint]

This supports the info I read that UK had nukes themselves on route to Falklands.

Let's see if I find the source again.

The Falklands is now considered the best-kept secret in the British Army, and being posted there normally meant an easy few years; however, things were different in the 1940s�even more so for those who had been selected with me.
We were forced to undertake a gruelling month’s training where we were prepared for cold-weather warfare. From being plunged into the icy Atlantic to facing the elements in a tent on South Georgia, the training was arduous and there seemed little sense in the madness that we were forced to undertake. However, after the month’s training we were briefed by a Major and a scientist, and as the mission was relayed to us we all realised that there would be little chance of us all returning, especially if the suspicions proved correct.

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/sections-viewarticle-677.html

However, in 1982, Britain went to war against Argentina over the Falkland Islands (the Malvinas). Its defeat of the Argentinian forces led to the collapse of the fascist military junta that had dominated Argentina for several years. Argentina also had more than a passing interest in Antarctica but, with the deaths of over 2,000 personnel in the Malvinas campaign and facing the possibility of Buenos Aires being bombed, Argentina had no choice but to admit defeat. Yet, whilst admitting the battle was lost, Argentina insisted the war was not over. The Malvinas are Argentinian possessions according to South American atlases, and who is to say that war will not erupt again one day? If that were to happen, Britain would again send an armada to fight because, quite patently, the Falkland Islands are still one of Britain’s most prized dependencies and the reason is quite simple: their close proximity to Antarctica and all its treasures and mysteries that one day will be allowed to be utilized and accessed.44
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/esp_tierra_hueca_16.htm

Still digging for the article claiming UK was on the way to deploy nukes there... iirc, it was a newspaper article from that time.

[jiffy]

you are a silly cunt... no offence way..

I would of worded it differently but +1

[lightgiver]

Thatcher was a truly great PM.:)

We need her like again.

Waylander:cool:

I wouldn't really say that where I was brought up :eek:

are you some kind of plotitician :D

Thatcher or her regime would not have nuked Argentina,some one else always does the dirty work.

[bigscotsman]

She was probably the most pro zionist and anti scottish PM we have ever had :(

[eustacekidd]

I'm a big Thatcher fan, we could really use a Thatcher over here right now.

[drhemp]

It's a sign of how truly evil this Labour administration is when people look back at Mrs Thatcher with fond nostalgia.

[eustacekidd]

It's a sign of how truly evil this Labour administration is when people look back at Mrs Thatcher with fond nostalgia.

Nothing to do with fondness, a leader has to make tough unpopular decisions that sometimes don't benefit everyone in the short term. No one enjoys a root canal but they are necessary sometimes.

[drhemp]

Nothing to do with fondness, a leader has to make tough unpopular decisions that sometimes don't benefit everyone in the short term. No one enjoys a root canal but they are necessary sometimes.

Like sinking the Belgrano or the introduction of the Poll Tax?

[waylander]

Like sinking the Belgrano or the introduction of the Poll Tax?

Sinking the Belgrano, was a no brainer. She was right to do it.

The poll tax was wrong.

Waylander:cool:

[drhemp]

Sinking the Belgrano, was a no brainer. She was right to do it.

The poll tax was wrong.

Waylander:cool:

Oh dear, do we have a Sun reader in our midst? There are the families of 323 Argentinians who perished in the sinking of the Begrano, which posed no threat to British forces and was outside the British-declared Total Exclusion Zone of 370 km, who will disagree with your assertion Thatcher was right to order its sinking.

The Poll Tax, LOL, in the end, even Sun readers couldn't be convinced that was a good idea.

[rodin]

Sinking the Belgrano, was a no brainer. She was right to do it.

The poll tax was wrong.

Waylander:cool:

The poll tax was implemented and handled in a way that demonstrated it was to be used against her from the get go. She would not bow to the Marxists in Europe

[tinyint]

Oh dear, do we have a Sun reader in our midst? There are the families of 323 Argentinians who perished in the sinking of the Begrano, which posed no threat to British forces and was outside the British-declared Total Exclusion Zone of 370 km, who will disagree with your assertion Thatcher was right to order its sinking.

The Poll Tax, LOL, in the end, even Sun readers couldn't be convinced that was a good idea.

:D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/The_Sun_%28Gotcha%29.png :eek::(

[rodin]

It's a sign of how truly evil this Labour administration is when people look back at Mrs Thatcher with fond nostalgia.

I look back at Mary Whitehouse in a new light too

[bones]

it seams we being a supposed enlightened forum still manage to keep a few tunnel vision peeps.

im only 33 and dont quite remember much about maggy fatbitch, but i do remember this , she was fucking hated by my mum and dad,,,

what about the sell off of our manufacturing jobs and utilities?


like i said tunnel vision!!!

she was a twat , blair was twat, brown is just well a dork and a twat and cameron will be a twat!!

get it?

[waylander]

Oh dear, do we have a Sun reader in our midst? There are the families of 323 Argentinians who perished in the sinking of the Begrano, which posed no threat to British forces and was outside the British-declared Total Exclusion Zone of 370 km, who will disagree with your assertion Thatcher was right to order its sinking.

It was a tactical decision, that was correct at the time. It sent clear message, f*ck with me and I will f*ck back.

If her advice had been followed in Gulf War One, Gulf War Two would not have happened.

She was a tough leader, who wasn't afraid to make tough decisions.

As to reading the Sun, well that's the job of the present government. Brown has to read it to see what he should do next, he's not got enough character to make his own policies he led by the media.

Waylander:cool:

[waylander]

twat!!

get it?

I like twat.:)

And yes I do get it. Regularly :)

Waylander:cool:

[bones]

I like twat.:)

And yes I do get it. Regularly :)

Waylander:cool:

i do like that word too. ;)

[waylander]

i do like that word too. ;)

Yes, it can be a pleasant mouthful. It just rolls of the tounge:p

Waylander:cool:

[drhemp]

The Falkands War was contrived by Thatcher to boost her falling popularity in the early 80s.

Britain was in recession and Thatcher was very unpopular at the time; opinion polls were suggesting the SDP/ Liberals would form the next government. Thatcher was told by the Americans the Argentinians were going to invade the Falkand Islands, so she took the only British Navy frigate out of the area to send a signal to General Galtieri that she wouldn't take any action if they were annexed. When Galteiri did invade, she got what she wanted, and sent in the British troops, who soon retook the islands and were welcomed back with a frenzy of sickening flag wielding patriotism that ensured Thatcher was returned with a huge Commons majority.

The sinking of the Begrano was an evil and unnecessary (and illegal) act that resulted in the loss of lives of 323 people (mainly conscripted Argentinian young men).

The 2 Gulf wars were also orchestrated, but I can't be bother to explain to you why, we'll be here all bloody week. Most wars are and sadly the loss of life is so often cheapened by so-called patriotic idiots and the Murdoch media empire.

[and justice for all]

[...]


like i said tunnel vision!!!

she was a twat , blair was twat, brown is just well a dork and a twat and cameron will be a twat!!

get it?

You're absolutely correct.
But what you just described proves irrefutably the point that nothing ever will change as long as most people continue to have this chimpanzee, backwards, -200 IQ mentality. Why even bother waking some of these so called 'people' up? There's honestly no point.

[rodin]

it seams we being a supposed enlightened forum still manage to keep a few tunnel vision peeps.

im only 33 and dont quite remember much about maggy fatbitch, but i do remember this , she was fucking hated by my mum and dad,,,

what about the sell off of our manufacturing jobs and utilities?


like i said tunnel vision!!!

she was a twat , blair was twat, brown is just well a dork and a twat and cameron will be a twat!!

get it?

She made at least one huge mistake. She thought we really had a free market

[bones]

The Falkands War was contrived by Thatcher to boost her falling popularity in the early 80s.

Britain was in recession and Thatcher was very unpopular at the time; opinion polls were suggesting the SDP/ Liberals would form the next government. Thatcher was told by the Americans the Argentinians were going to invade the Falkand Islands, so she took the only British Navy frigate out of the area to send a signal to General Galtieri that she wouldn't take any action if they were annexed. When Galteiri did invade, she got what she wanted, and sent in the British troops, who soon retook the islands and were welcomed back with a frenzy of sickening flag wielding patriotism that ensured Thatcher was returned with a huge Commons majority.

The sinking of the Begrano was an evil and unnecessary (and illegal) act that resulted in the loss of lives of 323 people (mainly conscripted Argentinian young men).

The 2 Gulf wars were also orchestrated, but I can't be bother to explain to you why, we'll be here all bloody week. Most wars are and sadly the loss of life is so often cheapened by so-called patriotic idiots and the Murdoch media empire.

good post!!! cheers...

[jiffy]

This forum truly is a cognitive play ground.

Maybe a few things you may wish to research before singing the praises of good old Thatchers

Why ALL major utilities were sold off at a steal
Why Council housing stock was sold, and the monies ring fenced
Where the money went during the 14 years of peak oil production
Why the mines were closed down

To name but a few


The ills that Britain face today are not from Immigrants, its from Thatchers children. No such thing as society, loads-a-money, Everyman for himself culture. Which has been passed down to the next generation.

Amazing how quickly people forget 1 in 10 unemployed, schools with leaking roofs, not even enough books to go round, sports equipment that was 20 years old, North south divide, 20 month for a knee or hip replacement, people dying on trolley in corridors due to lack of beds, real poverty, substandard housing, care in the community.

Again a very small selection, I am no Labour fan but take it from someone that lived through the Thatcher years there is no comparison.

[waylander]

Amazing how quickly people forget 1 in 10 unemployed, schools with leaking roofs, not even enough books to go round, sports equipment that was 20 years old, North south divide, 20 month for a knee or hip replacement, people dying on trolley in corridors due to lack of beds, real poverty, substandard housing, care in the community.


Good job labour have fixed all this in the last 13 years:)

Oh fuck, hang on a minute, they haven't.
This shower of shite are a thousand times worse.

Waylander:cool:

[jiffy]

Good job labour have fixed all this in the last 13 years:)

Oh fuck, hang on a minute, they haven't.
This shower of shite are a thousand times worse.

Waylander:cool:

Really! so there is 1 in 10 unemployed? The NHS is not better? Housing isn't better? Mental Health service is not better? Schools are not better? North south divide is not better? Poverty levels are not better?

Oh and by the way they didn't have the money from 14 years Peak Oil production some of which saw the highest Pro-rata prices of oil in history

They didn't have the sale money of millions upon millions of council housing.

They did have the revenue of from the sale of BT,Electric,Gas,Gatwick,Heathrow,Luton,Manchester, Airports, British steel, the whole of our oil industry....you want me to go on there is plenty more!!!!!

Oh and plenty of gold, she sold a lot more than Brown ever did;)

[waylander]

Really! so there is 1 in 10 unemployed? The NHS is not better? Housing isn't better? Mental Health service is not better? Schools are not better? North south divide is not better? Poverty levels are not better?


Correct. No better.

This country is far worse off, under zanu than under Maggie.

Plus Maggie sorted out Scargill:)

Waylander:cool:

[jiffy]

Correct. No better.

This country is far worse off, under zanu than under Maggie.

Plus Maggie sorted out Scargill:)

Waylander:cool:


Arr bless:rolleyes:

[and justice for all]

...Oh and plenty of gold, she sold a lot more than Brown ever did;)

Not by any means trying to defend the witch here, but Brown did sell a lot of gold (about half the reserves) at its lowest record price:

LINK: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-527090/Gordon-Brown-sold-half-Britains-gold-rock-prices--costing-country-4bn-value-metal-hits-time-high.html

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[iwant_tobreak_free]

it seams we being a supposed enlightened forum still manage to keep a few tunnel vision peeps.

im only 33 and dont quite remember much about maggy fatbitch, but i do remember this , she was fucking hated by my mum and dad,,,

what about the sell off of our manufacturing jobs and utilities?


like i said tunnel vision!!!

she was a twat , blair was twat, brown is just well a dork and a twat and cameron will be a twat!!

get it?

people are allowed to have opinions

[jiffy]

people are allowed to have opinions

Some could say...opinions are like arseholes everyone has one;)

[jiffy]

Not by any means trying to defend the witch here, but Brown did sell a lot of gold (about half the reserves) at its lowest record price:

LINK: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-527090/Gordon-Brown-sold-half-Britains-gold-rock-prices--costing-country-4bn-value-metal-hits-time-high.html

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I don't disagree he sold half our reserve, but how much reserve did we have? Thatcher sold off a high amount pro-rata.

I'm always dumbfounded how the normal working person can't sit down and look at how many trillions not billions, Thatcher got in the whole sale auction of British assets and peak oil but not even question where it all went.

And to not see the analogy of the Nazis in post war Germany is truly a reflection of the lack of knowledge of average job.
Even spitting image had Thatcher and Tebit in SS uniforms!!

Poor old waylander is so emotive that his cognitive thought processes don't allow him to see the FACTS, which is sadly true of many many people.
I suggest this is all part of ones journey from ignorance to wisdom, sadly some have a very long road;)

[lynfowars]

Not by any means trying to defend the witch here, but Brown did sell a lot of gold (about half the reserves) at its lowest record price:


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He may have got a good price if most of it was tungsten-cored... about the only thing that made sense of that selloff when viewed with hindsight.

The 'tungsten core' gold bar story, if true, is the biggest financial unexploded bomb in history. Look at the way HSBC kicked out small investors in gold, as if they didn't want the Little People to know what was going on.

Would any countries in possession of salted gold bars even let such news out? What is this incessant drive to buy every ounce of gold with those cash-for-gold companies appearing everywhere?

There's definitely something not right going on behind the scenes with the gold market. Soros trying to fck with our heads recently ads to this.

[bones]

people are allowed to have opinions

totally agree!!! still tunnel vision though...:p

[drhemp]

The last Conservative Government was awful, I remember it and I fucking hated them. This current Government is also awful, if push come to a shove, I'd say they are even worse, though I suppose it's like deciding if Stalin was worse than Hitler.

They are worse as they carry forward the globalist agenda of the New World Order, just as the Tories did previously; it's just a matter of progression; the governments seem worse, because year by year, both Tory and Labour further the agenda of the New World Order.

The police state Labour introduce is merely a continuation of policies originally started by Thatcher and then Major, whose Home Secretary, the revolting Michael Howard, introduced the Criminal Justice Act & Public Order Act of 1994, which was opposed by Labour at the time, and subsequently made worse when they got into power a few years later.

My assertion that BLiar and Brown are worse than Thatcher is meant more as an insult to the Labour Party, rather than any compliment or admiration towards the Tory Party or Maggie Thatcher.

[and justice for all]

I don't disagree he sold half our reserve, but how much reserve did we have? Thatcher sold off a high amount pro-rata.

I'm always dumbfounded how the normal working person can't sit down and look at how many trillions not billions, Thatcher got in the whole sale auction of British assets and peak oil but not even question where it all went.

And to not see the analogy of the Nazis in post war Germany is truly a reflection of the lack of knowledge of average job.
Even spitting image had Thatcher and Tebit in SS uniforms!!

Poor old waylander is so emotive that his cognitive thought processes don't allow him to see the FACTS, which is sadly true of many many people.
I suggest this is all part of ones journey from ignorance to wisdom, sadly some have a very long road;)

Absolutely! Bottom line is they’re all scum, what’s so hard to grasp?
And you’re quite right, god knows what happened to all the cash from that witch privatisation and selling off national assets.


He may have got a good price if most of it was tungsten-cored... about the only thing that made sense of that selloff when viewed with hindsight.

The 'tungsten core' gold bar story, if true, is the biggest financial unexploded bomb in history. Look at the way HSBC kicked out small investors in gold, as if they didn't want the Little People to know what was going on.

Would any countries in possession of salted gold bars even let such news out? What is this incessant drive to buy every ounce of gold with those cash-for-gold companies appearing everywhere?

There's definitely something not right going on behind the scenes with the gold market. Soros trying to fck with our heads recently ads to this.

I’m not familiar with the tungsten-cored / salted gold bars subject. Sounds interesting, must research more.
You’re right about Soros, first bad mouthing gold in the media saying it’ll soon plummet and shortly after buying as much of it as he can get his filthy claws on it.
It’s no doubt the gold market is being manipulated, but then again they’re all manipulated! There’s no such thing as true financial cause and effect, the only cause and effect there is the one they artificially and arbitrarily create.

[howie]

Thatcher was a bilderberger just like Blair & Brown, she's not better or worse than them, they're all as bad as each other.

[redsky]

it seams we being a supposed enlightened forum still manage to keep a few tunnel vision peeps.

im only 33 and dont quite remember much about maggy fatbitch, but i do remember this , she was fucking hated by my mum and dad,,,

what about the sell off of our manufacturing jobs and utilities?


like i said tunnel vision!!!

she was a twat , blair was twat, brown is just well a dork and a twat and cameron will be a twat!!

get it?

Oh I get it

I read in a local paper that Sandwell MBC were going to start building new council houses because some silly women decided it would be a good idea to give them away for a few quid each. My Dad bought a 3 bedroom house for 6 grand ( You would pay more now for a decent car). Any money raised then will dwarf what it's going to cost to build new one's now.
She destroyed the coal mines, so much so we have to import the stuff now & sold off the utility companies so we can all be ripped off in the name of competition.
With the destruction of UK industry in the 80's that today hampered us getting out of todays recession because any recovery certainly won't be industry lead.

[size_of_light]

Margaret Thatcher forced François Mitterrand to give her the codes to disable Argentina's deadly French-made missiles during the Falklands war by threatening to launch a nuclear warhead against Buenos Aires, according to a book.

:rolleyes:

If I can see that a nuclear strike by Britain on Buenos Aires during the Falklands conflict was never even a remote option, why couldn't Mitterand?

In other words, this is a laughable claim designed to sell books to idiots.

[and justice for all]

:rolleyes:

If I can see that a nuclear strike by Britain on Buenos Aires during the Falklands conflict was never even a remote option, why couldn't Mitterand?

In other words, this is a laughable claim designed to sell books to idiots.

I hate to disagree with you... but I did hear about this very thing about 20+ years ago from someone high up in a political party and holding office at the time [I](sorry can‘t say more). Mitterrand’s comments kind of just confirms what I wasn’t able to all these years.

[jiffy]

Bottom line is they’re all scum, what’s so hard to grasp?


To that we can all agree...But people need to be careful what they wish for when voting...Out of the fat and into the fire springs to mind;)

[eustacekidd]

Margaret Thatcher forced François Mitterrand to give her the codes to disable Argentina's deadly French-made missiles during the Falklands war by threatening to launch a nuclear warhead against Buenos Aires, according to a book.

Say what you like, but that is badass if true.