Barbie!

[mariag]

Hello Again!
Correct me please if i am wrong about this,but i have a thought about the Barbie Doll.
When was the first doll made, and why was it named Barbie?Has this doll been named after, Klaus Barbie, the infamous "Butcher of Lyon"?And why is this doll so popular?
Have a feeling this barbie doll has been created by the Nazies,and then made a rolemodel.
When you think about how the first doll looked like ,it is not at all strange to believe that it has a Nazi conection.Blond hair, tall and i do believe it has blueish eyes too.
Barbie has stated to be a rolemodel of some sort to young girls when it comes to fashion and apperance.

http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/images/first_barbie_1.jpg
This is only my thoughts and would appreciate if anyone corected me ...:p

Peace

[kadamose]

Blonde hair and blue eyes is a desired trait -- simply because people with such features tend to be more attractive than their counterparts. In the end, it's all about aesthetics.

[tiswas]

Nowadays Barbie has changed in colouring, but don't forget that Blonde dye is the most popular dye going. Even the Japenese are dying their hair to this shade.:eek:

[mountain]

I don't agree that these traits are more attractive, everyone is entiltled to their preference. But I do think it has to do with promoting the Super race of Aryans.

[mariag]

I don't agree that these traits are more attractive, everyone is entiltled to their preference. But I do think it has to do with promoting the Super race of Aryans.
thank you madame :) I think so myself , and thats why i was concerned.
There are a lot of kids playing with these dolls.I grew up with them .

[intruder]

promote a super race of Aryans!?!? really...or, perhaps reduce them to plastic caricatures that end up in the trash.

[supertzar]

Barbie is a reppie!

http://www.dreamlandtheater.com/barbSML.JPG

[kadamose]

Well, if the Aryan race truly is blond/blue eyed than it truly is superior, in my opinion.

[spacegurl]

thank you madame :) I think so myself , and thats why i was concerned.
There are a lot of kids playing with these dolls.I grew up with them .

No the Barbie doll was created by a jewish woman.

There is nothing wrong with a child playing with blonde, blue-eyed dolls.

[thisisactuallymyluciddream]

No the Barbie doll was created by a jewish woman.

There is nothing wrong with a child playing with blonde, blue-eyed dolls.

Oh no, PLEASE tell me you did not just say that...
Nothing wrong with children growing up with the idea that this is what women should look like? Nothing wrong with "Oh my god, I am having the woooooorst hair day. How am I ever going to be able to face Ken tonight? I guess I will have to jump in my convertible and buy a new unnecessarily short skirt and high heels..."

[megafish33]

I like how she has a $10,000 handbag and designer shades as well lol

[clipwip]

wasn't there a study awhile back which determined that Barbie's knockers were like DD or something? great for lifting girls' self-esteem!

[megafish33]

wasn't there a study awhile back which determined that Barbie's knockers were like DD or something? great for lifting girls' self-esteem!

Yeah I know... I like how her bodyfat percentage is so small yet her chest accumulates tons of it in perfect fashion. lol

It's not just the girl toys.. look at the action figures little boys play with. They're all extremely cut and muscular like they spent their whole lives training lol

[pumma]

Hello Again!
Correct me please if i am wrong about this,but i have a thought about the Barbie Doll.
When was the first doll made, and why was it named Barbie?Has this doll been named after, Klaus Barbie, the infamous "Butcher of Lyon"?And why is this doll so popular?
Have a feeling this barbie doll has been created by the Nazies,and then made a rolemodel.
When you think about how the first doll looked like ,it is not at all strange to believe that it has a Nazi conection.Blond hair, tall and i do believe it has blueish eyes too.
Barbie has stated to be a rolemodel of some sort to young girls when it comes to fashion and apperance.

http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/images/first_barbie_1.jpg
This is only my thoughts and would appreciate if anyone corected me ...:p

Peace

Barbie's full name is Barbara Millicent Roberts. In a series of novels published by Random House in the 1960s, her parents' names are given as George and Margaret Roberts from the fictional town of Willows, Wisconsin. Barbie has been said to attend Willows High School and Manhattan International High School in New York City, based on the real-life Stuyvesant High School. She has an on-off romantic relationship with her beau Ken (Ken Carson), who first appeared in 1961. Like Barbie, Ken shares his name with one of Ruth Handler's children. A news release from Mattel in February 2004 announced that Barbie and Ken had decided to split up, but in February 2006 they were back together again.[6][7]

Barbie has had over forty pets including cats and dogs, horses, a panda, a lion cub, and a zebra. She has owned a wide range of vehicles, including pink convertibles, trailers and jeeps. She also holds a pilot's license, and operates commercial airliners in addition to serving as a flight attendant. Barbie's careers are designed to show that women can take on a variety of roles in life, and the doll has been sold with a wide range of titles including Miss Astronaut Barbie (1965), Doctor Barbie (1988) and Nascar Barbie (1998). [8]

Mattel has created a range of companions for Barbie, including Hispanic Teresa, African American Christie and Steven (Christie's boyfriend). For more details, see the List of Barbie's friends and family.

More > Barbie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[synak]

Its one of many subliminal psychological methods of creating a sense of inferiority and self-hatred among many children. It serves other purposes as well such as the already noted intentional influence on young girls to become mentally increasingly materialistic and superficial while growing up.

'The Doll Experiment'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLB4z5d93k

[spacegurl]

Oh no, PLEASE tell me you did not just say that...
Nothing wrong with children growing up with the idea that this is what women should look like? Nothing wrong with "Oh my god, I am having the woooooorst hair day. How am I ever going to be able to face Ken tonight? I guess I will have to jump in my convertible and buy a new unnecessarily short skirt and high heels..."

No I didn't mean it like that. I wasn't referring to women looking like Barbie with fibre hair, plastic bods, pouty lips, prep fashion, fluffy pink mansions and pink cars. That's another issue altogether but I would agree that women should'nt have to look like that. Too many fashions these days are for super thin models with bodies like sticks. The media constantly jabs at women's appearance all the time and criticises them for being slightly curvy, as if that's a crime. I think this has an effect on the younger generations who end up with eating disorders and paranoia so they have cosmetic surgery at an incredibly young age of 16/17.

All I'm saying earlier on is there's nothing wrong with a child playing with a toy that has blonde blue-eyes. Why should this be offensive? I wanted to ask the thread's owner why she finds it concerning and in what context. She was talking about Nazis so it implied the ethnicity of blonde dolls is un-PC and shouldn't be allowed. It bothers her that children should play with dolls with blonde hair. I find that the majority of people have become indoctrinated one way or another. Soon our children won't be allowed to have blonde dolls at all for it will soon become a "hate crime".

[synak]

All I'm saying earlier on is there's nothing wrong with a child playing with a toy that has blonde blue-eyes. Why should this be offensive? I wanted to ask the thread's owner why she finds it concerning and in what context. She was talking about Nazis so it implied the ethnicity of blonde dolls is un-PC and shouldn't be allowed. It bothers her that children should play with dolls with blonde hair. I find that the majority of people have become indoctrinated one way or another. Soon our children won't be allowed to have blonde dolls at all for it will soon become a "hate crime".

This question was not directed towards me but perhaps I can help answer or at least elaborate on the subject. We should all find it "concerning" that our children (and everyone else) are being subconsciously taught to believe that a particular look or 'pigment' is more desirable than the other and that the rest are ugly/undesirable. It is part of a wide spectrum of programming designed to inflict inferiority and superiority complexes among people across the world. I will refer you to the earlier posted video 'The Doll Experiment'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLB4z5d93k in order to give you better reference to what I'm writing about here. Images depicting people or caricatures with particular appearances resembling specified groups of people are made for us to reflect these selections mentally to further 'burn' this template into our minds.

[clipwip]

Too many fashions these days are for super thin models with bodies like sticks.

what's worse is that some of these models are 12 yrs old!

[whitelightrabbit]

Its one of many subliminal psychological methods of creating a sense of inferiority and self-hatred among many children. It serves other purposes as well such as the already noted intentional influence on young girls to become mentally increasingly materialistic and superficial while growing up.

'The Doll Experiment'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLB4z5d93k

well said.

you all know that barbie's proportions projected onto a full sized woman would be an absolute freak... something like 7 feet tall with size six feet and huge breasts. (although barbie's proportions have been altered to be a little more realistic in recent years)

Why is Mattel remolding Barbie? Her manufacturer says that complaints about Barbie's unrealistic proportions have nothing to do with it. "Our intention is for her to have more of a teenage physique," says Mattel spokesperson Lisa McKendall. "In order for hip-huggers [the new doll's debut outfit] to look right, Barbie needs to be more like a teen's body. The fashions teens wear now don't fit properly on our current sculpting."

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/1997/12/jervis.html

[soglad]

Didn't the Ken dolls have penises at one point?

[alrick888]

Why do you ask?

[soglad]

Because that's weird in my view....giving dolls dicks....

[synak]

well said.

you all know that barbie's proportions projected onto a full sized woman would be an absolute freak... something like 7 feet tall with size six feet and huge breasts. (although barbie's proportions have been altered to be a little more realistic in recent years)

Very true. Coupled with media images and music, girls are commonly expected to carry on unnatural shapes and bodies. You'd be surprised (or perhaps not) how many women are disappointed with the size of their breasts because of these outlets and products constantly telling them so. In recent years men have been the target of such malicious programming as well, in different ways albeit but still the same methods.

[spacegurl]

This question was not directed towards me but perhaps I can help answer or at least elaborate on the subject. We should all find it "concerning" that our children (and everyone else) are being subconsciously taught to believe that a particular look or 'pigment' is more desirable than the other and that the rest are ugly/undesirable. It is part of a wide spectrum of programming designed to inflict inferiority and superiority complexes among people across the world. I will refer you to the earlier posted video 'The Doll Experiment'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLB4z5d93k in order to give you better reference to what I'm writing about here. Images depicting people or caricatures with particular appearances resembling specified groups of people are made for us to reflect these selections mentally to further 'burn' this template into our minds.

Fine I agree with you about dolls and their appearance influencing girls but it doesn't mean it's wrong for blonde girls to have blonde dolls. We've even got Bratz who are different ethnicities but they are just as bad, if not worse. In the high street Bratz dolls are advertised wearing kinky leathers and fishnets.

I hope people aren't suggesting boys should play with dolls and girls start playing with mini tractors

[spacegurl]

As a kid I had many dolls, I didn't have Barbie actually but I owned Sindy. The others looked similar of different sizes and hair colours. It didn't have a psychological effect on me but other influences did later. In my early teens I was worried about my looks because I compared myself with females who were pop stars, on TV and in magazines who were considered attractive. I'm saying it isn't really dolls that is a problem but the media and it's music scene, videos, celebrities, models and stuff like that.

[synak]

Fine I agree with you about dolls and their appearance influencing girls but it doesn't mean it's wrong for blonde girls to have blonde dolls. We've even got Bratz who are different ethnicities but they are just as bad, if not worse. In the high street Bratz dolls are advertised wearing kinky leathers and fishnets.

I never said it was wrong, though one should never limit children to 'dolls' or 'figures' of only one particular mold or look because they 'resemble' the little girl. Overall most mainstream dolls sold by corporations serve no positive influence for growing children, including Bratz.

[synak]

As a kid I had many dolls, I didn't have Barbie actually but I owned Sindy. The others looked similar of different sizes and hair colours. It didn't have a psychological effect on me but other influences did later. In my early teens I was worried about my looks because I compared myself with females who were pop stars, on TV and in magazines who were considered attractive. I'm saying it isn't really dolls that is a problem but the media and it's music scene, videos, celebrities, models and stuff like that.

Exactly. The very reason they attack from different outlets. If they didn't reach the desired result with you using the dolls they knew to use other methods to be sure the damage would still be done. You may not have been affected, but the next girl probably was. One outlet alone is not enough which is why they combine them. Aren't the Bratz series supposed to be fictional pop stars of some sort as well?

[spacegurl]

Yes I think Bratz started off as owning their magazine or something and then went on and became a pop band. I watched a couple of episodes and you can tell their attitude sets itself into the minds of the viewing adolescent girl, influencing how they should behave.

Sorry sweetie - Mommy thinks Bratz are too skanky (http://blogher.org/node/11534#comment-17805)
http://www.babble.com/CS/photos/apr2007/images/15053/330x480.aspx

[phoebe]

Oh no, PLEASE tell me you did not just say that...
Nothing wrong with children growing up with the idea that this is what women should look like? Nothing wrong with "Oh my god, I am having the woooooorst hair day. How am I ever going to be able to face Ken tonight? I guess I will have to jump in my convertible and buy a new unnecessarily short skirt and high heels..."

I don't know about you...
But I have NEVER seen a child play with dolls
Using that type of scenario.
When I was a little girl I had Barbie
(Well actually it was Sindy then, but much the same)
My daughter had Barbie
And I don't recall her EVER playing games like that
With her Barbie dolls.

[thetonic]

I used to chop off my sisters barbie doll heads, melt them down, blow them up with firecrackers! Thats the only damn thing theyre good for ..:D

[phoebe]

I used to chop off my sisters barbie doll heads, melt them down, blow them up with firecrackers! Thats the only damn thing theyre good for ..:D

hehe
:D

[tiswas]

I had several blonde dollies when I was young, but don't forget the blonde dye is the most popular dye there is.
Have you ever heard of a blonde going brunnette.

[thetonic]

I had several blonde dollies when I was young, but don't forget the blonde dye is the most popular dye there is.
Have you ever heard of a blonde going brunnette.

yes...

[tiswas]

Who? but really being blonde has openned the doors of many a celebrity.
Would Marilyn Monroe be such an icon with her natural shade.
As for my hubby, he's a blond but he prefers jet black hair.
Even Beyonce has gone blonde, and it does suit her.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Ladies & Gentlemen, Cordial Felicitations:

Sometimes a Doll is just a Doll. A 'Trigger' for a Childs Imagination. Often, Barbie will be amongst other Dolls at the little girls Tea Parties.

Barbie was 'Conceived' in the late 50s, early 60s of Americas Erzatz Golden Era. Examine the 'Show Cars' from Detroit. Big Fins, Protrusions of the front Bumpers, lots of Chrome. Guys were driving around with giant chrome Tits on their front Bumpers.

Barbie was an 'Idealization' of America at that time: Erzatz. False Reality.

Wasp-Waisted, more than ample breasts, 'Eye-Candy'.

Some Proportions and Lines are more appealing than others. The Automobile Industry utilises this knowledge. So do many other Industries. And now Barbies Physique changes. For reasons of Commercial Marketability.

As for Blonde/Blue, more 'Idealization', Fantasy. Madame Mariag, are you not a Resident of Sweden? I have never been there, but my understanding is there are many Blond(e)/Blue-Eyed People, are they the Majority? What if Barbie had been named INGA instead?

Equating Blond(e)/Blue-Eyed Physical Characteristics to Nazi-izm is based upon a fraction of the History of Blond(e)/Blue-Eyed People. In the 'Heat of Conflict' I have been called a NAZI, a BlondHaired/Blue-Eyed MFer, I attributed this to ignorance on my Adversarys part.

Alot of young girls of all Nationalities were positively inspired by their Barbie Dolls. Many young girls will design and manufacture their own outfits, learning how to sew and design garments. A useful skill. And Barbie, if anything, is a 'Clothes Horse'.

As for the values and judgements a child learns, that is the Primary responsibility of the Parents. With proper guidance and instruction, the child will understand the concept of a Master Race is non-sense. Parents should not abdicate their responsibility to Madison Avenue or Hollywood.

Sometimes a Doll is just a Doll.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[jinjo5]

...look at barbies eyes,in a certain light........fucking lizard,sorry for swearing but that is the kind of silly comment you get on here.
what if barbie is the pre-cursor of maddie,drip feeding our minds into thinking that shes plastic n doesnt matter,utterly ridiculous that sounds.....read the maddie thread,its even stranger.

[thisisactuallymyluciddream]

I don't know about you...
But I have NEVER seen a child play with dolls
Using that type of scenario.
When I was a little girl I had Barbie
(Well actually it was Sindy then, but much the same)
My daughter had Barbie
And I don't recall her EVER playing games like that
With her Barbie dolls.

Really? I wanna grow up where you were raised...

[phoebe]

Really? I wanna grow up where you were raised...

You bumped this thread just to say that?

[thisisactuallymyluciddream]

I don't know what bumping a thread means.:rolleyes:

[tejas]

Blonde hair and blue eyes is a desired trait -- simply because people with such features tend to be more attractive than their counterparts. In the end, it's all about aesthetics.

Its only that way in this westernized culture because we have been programmed by media to see that as attractive.

different cultures across the world (without the aryan promotion through media)
have a very different view of what is attractive in a woman...

[lydia78]

don't remember seeing these as a kid!
for enlarged pics:
http://carcino.gen.nz/images/index.php/00b9a680/60c1e50d

569

[asentinel]

Cannot verify sources but read in a newspaper article that after WWII a similar doll was found in a sex shop in East Germany, found it's way to Mattel. It is a representation of a german prostitute.

Nazi and illuminati/occult connection makes sense if you factor that in.

You will not find any helpful information coming from manufacturers. It is a connection to the porn industry.

All roads lead back to war on culture, personal esteem, relationship.

[joejam]

I don't know what bumping a thread means.:rolleyes:

It means that by responding....you bump it to the top....so others will be sure to read it.
If they want.
doesn't seem to be the case.

[chris]

Get with it people, Barbies days are numbered. Now it's all about the brats.

http://www.boort.net/blogger/uploaded_images/NevraFriends-733146.jpg

Stupid heads and botox lips and dressed like hoochies, otherwise they have bodies of children...

[chris]

Yes I think Bratz started off as owning their magazine or something and then went on and became a pop band. I watched a couple of episodes and you can tell their attitude sets itself into the minds of the viewing adolescent girl, influencing how they should behave.

Sorry sweetie - Mommy thinks Bratz are too skanky (http://blogher.org/node/11534#comment-17805)
http://www.babble.com/CS/photos/apr2007/images/15053/330x480.aspx

Oh, you got there before me...I'm too slow:(

This world is mad, MAD I TELL YA!

[octopusrex]

Hello Again!
Correct me please if i am wrong about this,but i have a thought about the Barbie Doll.
When was the first doll made, and why was it named Barbie?Has this doll been named after, Klaus Barbie, the infamous "Butcher of Lyon"?And why is this doll so popular?
Have a feeling this barbie doll has been created by the Nazies,and then made a rolemodel.
When you think about how the first doll looked like ,it is not at all strange to believe that it has a Nazi conection.Blond hair, tall and i do believe it has blueish eyes too.
Barbie has stated to be a rolemodel of some sort to young girls when it comes to fashion and apperance.

http://growabrain.typepad.com/growabrain/images/first_barbie_1.jpg
This is only my thoughts and would appreciate if anyone corected me ...:p

Peace

No nipples. No genitals. No way to teach a girl about her own body.

[biblegirl]

I have been watching this forum for a while, and thought it was time I finally joined. I had to post this picture somewhere where it would be, um, appreciated. I got this from the packaging of a Barbie fishing pole. Do you guys see what I see in this picture?

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/313/scan0020hv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[shellygurrrl]

oh No, Please Tell Me You Did Not Just Say That...
Nothing Wrong With Children Growing Up With The Idea That This Is What Women Should Look Like? Nothing Wrong With "oh My God, I Am Having The Woooooorst Hair Day. How Am I Ever Going To Be Able To Face Ken Tonight? I Guess I Will Have To Jump In My Convertible And Buy A New Unnecessarily Short Skirt And High Heels..."

Lmao :D

[loderlive]

I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world, live in plastic....it's fantastic.

[biblegirl]

I'm referring to the strong resemblance of an alien, BTW- think Credo and David

[shellygurrrl]

I don't see an alien. Is it hidden or are you referring to the actual face?

[biblegirl]

the shape of the head and the facial features look alien to me: not the same look of Barbie dolls when I was a kid

[private_eye]

Barbies are a subliminal bad influence. I'd normally be branded "politically correct gone mad" or some vile reproduced Mail headline like that, but it's bloody true.

If Barbie was in real proportions, she would neither be able to stand up, or live. And that has been the set ideal for little girls to believe in. Also, a lot of these dolls are quite highly sexualised. They wear short skirts and heels. The boys wear army gear. So - we are supposed to be a nation of whores and soldiers?

As for origins - I'm sure I remember seeing a documentary once that Barbie was invented after a little girl called Barbara (Barbie) died. And so her parents made her immortal.