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lenejento
28-09-2007, 02:27 PM
Just thought I'd tell you about the Gangaji satstang (association with Truth) I went to in London last year. I went with my boyfriend and a friend (that I knew through my boyfriend). My boyfriend knew about Gangaji and have listened to many talks and read books of hers like me. Our friend hadn't heard of her before. We were all in a good mood, looking forward to the night we had planned going to a restaurant and meeting some more people.

Well, it was very intense. The truth is ruthless as well as gentle. I didn't get much out of it that time, I was identifying to much with my thought and I was worrying to much about the ones I went with hoping that they were ok, and din't find it boring, but it was good still. My boyfriend was calm all the way though, but our friend was very agitated and stressed. She got very tense and was fidgeting in her chair. Our friend approach to spirituality is quite New Age, she's gone to many workshops and seminars in her life, trying to improve herself, trying to find happiness, and I guess the message of Gangaji was stressful because it sais "stop the search".

I'm looking forward to going next time. I might even ask to talk to her myself :) Anyone else been to satsang?

rossus
28-09-2007, 02:37 PM
i almost went to see her in holland this summer, but i forgot... dammit :p

where i lived & worked all summer (a remote area in nature)
i had a dream about her, and there was something in me that made it seem like she was "demonic".

when i woke up i realized that it was part of me making it seem like "love" is demonic,
so i would quit the awareness-thing. there's something in a human being which doesn't like being shined light on :)

my summer was great.
whenever i listen or read gangaji now, every word feels too much... cause i know it all already.
i am that i am.

i don't need anyone to help me look at my Self now, but when i did gangaji's book "the diamond in your pocket" helped me a lot.
now i have found out who i really am, it feels like a search has ended....

but there's still fear and lust... i think it will forever be there because the human body is born with it.
but by being aware of Self, it's possible to be free from the trouble they bring.
self is free of all fear, free of all lust and thus free of suffering... self is pure light :)

lenejento
28-09-2007, 02:46 PM
i almost went to see her in holland this summer, but i forgot... dammit :p

where i lived & worked all summer (a remote area in nature)
i had a dream about her, and there was something in me that made it seem like she was "demonic".

when i woke up i realized that it was part of me making it seem like "love" is demonic,
so i would quit the awareness-thing. there's something in a human being which doesn't like being shined light on :)

my summer was great, i made good progress during those 2 months.
whenever i listen or read gangaji now, every word feels too much... cause i know it all already.
i am that i am.

i don't need anyone to help me look at my Self now, but when i did gangaji's book "the diamond in your pocket" helped me a lot.


Sounds good.:) Maybe you could hold satsang yourself? I'm sure you could point people to the truth of their being.

monique
28-09-2007, 02:54 PM
Can't believe I missed her coming to Holland. I love Gangaji, she is so pure and elementary. I've got a few of her audiobooks on my pc, and usually play my music by "shuffle". Usually when the pc picks one of her talks it is exactly the one I needed to hear at that specific moment.
She's awesome and one of the very few who knows the score.

rossus
28-09-2007, 02:55 PM
Sounds good.:) Maybe you could hold satsang yourself? I'm sure you could point people to the truth of their being.
i can point people to truth but they must want to see it.
also, my style of pointing to truth needs more perfection before i will hold "satsang"... i'm still a young boy who just learned how to walk.
i feel like running some marathons first before starting to fly.

but in theory i could... i need to get a job first and rent my own place.
cause where i live now (parents house) really stinks to let people come over.

in a way, we are all a teacher already and we teach everytime we meet eachother.
we can teach eachother good things and bad things...

by being aware you help others be aware.
by being fearful and paranoid you help others being fearful and paranoid.

lenejento
28-09-2007, 03:01 PM
i can point people to truth but they must want to see it.
also, my style of pointing to truth needs more perfection... i'm still a young boy who just learned how to walk.
i feel like running some marathons first before starting to fly.

in a way, we are all a teacher already and we teach everytime we meet eachother.

I understand :) Do you think you will want to do it one day? On a big scale like Gangaji.. I know in my heart that this is the awakening :) It "needs" to be spread, it would be very joyus!

What is your age Rossus? If you don't mind my asking

rossus
28-09-2007, 03:11 PM
I understand :) Do you think you will want to do it one day? On a big scale like Gangaji.. I know in my heart that this is the awakening :) It "needs" to be spread, it would be very joyus!

What is your age Rossus? If you don't mind my asking
i am 20 and i started meditating (in a wrong way :D) like 2 years ago.

about one year ago i ran into adyashanti (online),
i watched his video's and listened to his meditation mp3 a couple of times ( http://users.telenet.be/psy/muziek/learnmeditation ) to learn me how to meditate.

he gave me a good warmup, but gangaji's book finished "me".
i read like one chapter every day and used it to meditate. reading a chapter of her book was usually enough to shut my mind for a small hour or so.

after finishing the book it took me like a couple of weeks or months to get it all together... (understanding nothing needs to be understould... just be here now)

teaching on a big scale like gangaji sounds great. it's probably the best job in the world. even though i wouldn't do it for the money,
i'd love to gather some money in my life to give it to the poor people in africa or something.
myself: i don't need much besides food, water, clothes and a safe place to sleep.

not sure if you guys have also become "enlightened" (a.k.a. realize your true nature)
if you haven't don't worry it will come... if i can do it so can everyone :)

what will probably help you is trying to meditate each day or every two days for about one hour (the good way)
and then just "try to be aware" during whatever it is your doing...
also try to limit the habits that keep you unaware. (for me this was video games, watch movies, listen to psytrance, etc.)
so you can be aware of how you feel when you don't have nothing to distract you from the truth.

boredom is a good indicator telling you that there is something wrong.
it means you want something more than what is here.


is there unwareness, be aware of the unawareness.
is there suffering and pain, be aware of suffering and pain.
is there doubtful thoughts, be aware of doubtful thoughts.

soon or later, you will realize you are you. the one who is aware is awareness.
you can give up the hope that you will reach enlightenment, because the one hoping to get enlightened is the one made of thoughts.
nobody gets enlightened, enlightenment just is. awareness is. you are. :)