The illusion of identity

[lotuspsychje]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywXFofV7fM

[innerlight]

wonderful video. :) welcome to our Forum :) the "I" that "I" deal with moment by moment is slowly awakening to the understanding of the "we" that is all. but many moments "I" still wonder if even that is not an illusion?

[lakkimakki]

yeah, i think he read this before;

Let us assume that you have died and been reincarnated into a
new-born infant. According to the Kabalah,the soul enters the body
with the first breath the infant takes. Perhaps you want to finish that
good book you were reading or see that movie you missed jus tbefore
you died. Unfortunately, you discover that your muscles do not work
the way you remembered they worked. Thisis not psychological, it's
physiological. Nerves and bones have not finishe ddeveloping.Various
muscular activity cannot takeplace due to this lack of development.
You can no longer feed yourself.You can't communicate through
speech or writing.You cannot even control your bowels or bladder.
Aftera shortwhile, things which were part of your normal existence
are now part ofa terrifyingly new world.
In order tocope,you must quickly develop new modes of com-
munication. You learn that cooing brings smiling, happy faces and
warm protective bodies. You learn that crying brings worried looks,
your mother's breast ora needed change of diapers. In order to survive, your real consciousness submerges and afalse consciousness
arises. Eventually, this false consciousness takesover.It becomes the
consciousness or ego. It is a covering which is developed so that we
can exist. It is necessary, but it is not our true self.
And what of our true self? It has submerged toa point where
most people rarely if ever allow it to come out. This is especially true
in so-called civilized societies. Is it any wonder that there is so much
rebellion in theworld? So many people, instinctively trying to release
their true, inner selves, seem like rebels without causes....

[lotuspsychje]

wonderful video. :) welcome to our Forum :) the "I" that "I" deal with moment by moment is slowly awakening to the understanding of the "we" that is all. but many moments "I" still wonder if even that is not an illusion?

thanks for your warm welcome
you "are" the waken state, who is this I that plays doubts and wonderings<?

an illusion can only exist when one has an idea of reality

[arty2000]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywXFofV7fM


yes:) and welcome my friend:)

[consciousness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bywXFofV7fM

I have a book called "The I that is we"
Identity is separation. All we are is oneness.

[choice]

Identity is separation.

Exactly :)

[maitri]

Nice...

will watch the vid later

there is a meditation in Jnana Yoga which goes like this: You say "I am not this, nor this"... you dis-identify with everything until you realize that you are the I AM that comes before the "this and that"...

Interesting in this point is also what God told Moses was his name "I am the I am"

So what is the consiousness that we all are? Well, it IS consciousness.

I had an expierence one where I became this monadic I AM. It was hmm... like everythings that exists has this consiousness, this I AM. But all these "different" I AMs are only one and the same. It's monadic, there is not such a thing as different beings or forms of existence, it's just the same consiousness which identifies itself (or beliefs to be) a stone, a tree, a human, a galaxy...
This illusion of difference is just created by the SELF of everything, which is allways the same self, dreaming to be different things.

But its like God said: I AM the I AM

Thats what we truly are, the rest is illusion, and might I had, a very funny one.

Maybe God created the universe because it is very funny to him/her to wake up realize who he/she was all this time. I think it's fucking funny.

[joel1212]

i like being an individual. but also having the oneness flow thru me

[chica314]

i like being an individual. but also having the oneness flow thru me

iz you real-life bunneh ?

XD

[joel1212]

iz you real-life bunneh ?

XD

yar

[chica314]

yar

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/spirehouse/funny-pictures-rabbit-eats-thread.jpg

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