Fines for smoking behind the wheel

[mercuryrapids]

Not content with making smokers second class citizens by banning smoking in enclosed public spaces, it has been revealed today that people caught smoking while driving could face a fine.

Next they'll be saying we can't smoke in our own homes!:mad:

Link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1286132,00.html

[freedomnonfighter]

Lol... this is pathetic =/

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ToInrOEC--U

[reptilianshapeshifter]

Personally I hate smoking and think that the public smoking ban is great as it means any enclosed place has clean air rather than constantly dirty smokey air given that 1/3 of the population are smokers.

But these kind of rules I disagree with because it gives the police another thing they can get you for if they don't like the look of your face.

[neutron flux]

Another day, another piece of fascism.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4577/smoking2mk6.gif

[spacegurl]

Why is the government obsessed with banning smoking when other pollutants cause even more long lasting problems with the environment?

Exhaust fumes.

There's an article somewhere, either in Nexus magazine or on Rense, that scares of smoking used photographs of a coal miner's lungs to frighten people into not smoking. Also the article suggested that there are tiny radiation particles in the air caused by nuclear tests, Chernobl and others. Smoking and putting tar into your lungs was said to help stop you getting radiation. I will try my best to find that article.

[julieray]

If they ban smoking in cars, then they will be banning eating next, drinking and chewing gum. The trouble is where is it all going to end? A line will have to be drawn because it is all getting completely out of hand and we will have no freedom left to fight for. It really is becoming ridiculous in the extreme.:(

[phoebe]

I am a smoker and I disagree
With the public smoking ban.
However...
Although I do realise that
All these rules are put in place
To make £££ and to 'protect'/attempt to control us,
I do think that doing anything other than
Concentrating on driving
When you are driving is moronic.
The amount of people you see on phones
Or eating etc when driving is ridiculous.

[reptilianshapeshifter]

Why is the government obsessed with banning smoking when other pollutants cause even more long lasting problems with the environment?

Exhaust fumes.

There's an article somewhere, either in Nexus magazine or on Rense, that scares of smoking used photographs of a coal miner's lungs to frighten people into not smoking. Also the article suggested that there are tiny radiation particles in the air caused by nuclear tests, Chernobl and others. Smoking and putting tar into your lungs was said to help stop you getting radiation. I will try my best to find that article.

We've already been through this but again. If that were true we'd all be suffering the same diseases proportionally but the fact is that stats show that smokers suffer lung cancer totally outweigh lung cancer in non smokers.

[1 2 free]

This isn't new. They haven't passed any new laws they're just telling us about laws that are already in place. If you smoke, eat, drink, change a CD or do anything that may distract your concentration a police man/woman who spots you doing this can and may arrest you. Generally it doesn't happen but occasionally it does.

Personally I don't see smoking as distracting and in many ways it may help to calm peoples nerves and focus their driving. I don't like seeing people drinking from a can or (god forbid) a hot drink whilst driving though. I see that as very dangerous. Eating can be dangerous too although probably less of a problem unless it's something tricky to handle. People who use mobile phones behind the wheel are fucking wankers though.

[shodan]

There's an article somewhere, either in Nexus magazine or on Rense, that scares of smoking used photographs of a coal miner's lungs to frighten people into not smoking. Also the article suggested that there are tiny radiation particles in the air caused by nuclear tests, Chernobl and others. Smoking and putting tar into your lungs was said to help stop you getting radiation. I will try my best to find that article


Here you go

http://www.vialls.com/transpositions/smoking.html

[trumansho]

Not content with making smokers second class citizens by banning smoking in enclosed public spaces, it has been revealed today that people caught smoking while driving could face a fine.

Next they'll be saying we can't smoke in our own homes!:mad:

Link: http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1286132,00.html

shouldn't be smoking anyway it's disgusting and bad for your health.

[cf24]

I heard this on the radio today, gotta be honest its been on the cards for a while. They have already prosecuted people for eating whilst driving. Just hope that if I ever get pulled for smoking whilst driving, its not while i'm smokin a big fat one!

[melbo]

The most dangerous and distracting thing in the car is a baby (or young child) in the back.

Ban babies!!!

[tothestars]

I might be sidestepping a bit here but...

Additive free tobacco vs "regular" tobacco.

Could it be the additives that the tobaccocorporations (most of them are illuminati controlled) mix into the tobaco
that causes most of the health issues regarding smoking?

There are some pretty scary components they put into it. and in some brands there are up to 1000 ingredients (i think average is around 400).It is for the taste they say.... 1000 ingredients to make a cig taste good ??? Gimme a break. I personally think that pure tobacco taste 10 times better than the stuffed ones :p

I really dont buy that pure tobacco is so bad for you. People did smoke in the old days and that every 3rd ppl get cancer (at least thats what the government say here) is a new phenomena.

So why dont the authorities tell smokers to at least change to a brand that is free from additives ? I think i know the answer tho....

I have personally stop smoking regular cigarettes and stick to the additive free brands such as American Spirit, red Winston and Prince Indian Summer (which have just been released).

[resistance]

Personally i say bolloox tu their crazy dictatorial laws and get on with your life, if people would just wake up and not take any notice of these ridiculous laws they wouldn't be able tu do shit! what will they do put everybody behind bars! i'm still going tu smoke a big fat one behind the wheel and have been for 15 years (without any accidents) so fuck em.

[notaslave]

Personally i say bolloox tu their crazy dictatorial laws and get on with your life, if people would just wake up and not take any notice of these ridiculous laws they wouldn't be able tu do shit! what will they do put everybody behind bars! i'm still going tu smoke a big fat one behind the wheel and have been for 15 years (without any accidents) so fuck em.

100% the right attitude.

[resistance]

100% the right attitude.

Thank you:D we don't need tu abide tu these laws, soon they will be passing laws of what yu can and can't do in your own home. If people don't start getting of their back sides soon tu do something about this then it will be tu late.

[neutron flux]

I really dont buy that pure tobacco is so bad for you. People did smoke in the old days and that every 3rd ppl get cancer (at least thats what the government say here) is a new phenomena.



You might enjoy this article:

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/139304-Let%27s+All+Light+Up%21

:)

[resistance]

interesting stuff, well done.

[jp13]

You might enjoy this article:

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/139304-Let%27s+All+Light+Up%21

:)

Good website, like all the stuff about Hitler and Nazi's inventing "passive Smoking" . Last night I was in a friends car, I was about to light up when he said "if I can't smoke, then no-one else in the car can" I tried to explain to him that it wasn't a new law, it was merely a "suggestion" that's been put in the new Highway code (published yesterday) and that no new law had been created, however he wasn't willing to risk it on my say so, and everyone else we met that night tended to go along with his view:-and so say all of us.
Personally I think that if you are a council or Housing Association tenant i.e. in rented accomadation-the masses,it won't be long before the landlords will soon be making it a "suggestion" or tenancy act that you can't smoke in "their" property or you face eviction-homelessness, despair addiction alcoholism mental incarceration, suicide etc.
I am going to have a roll up now with the duty free tobacco that I got last week, maybe it's phoney and has lots of heavy chemicals in it (man) but I will continue even though I tell myself I want to give up,-( hard habit to break, sorry for long post, well not really, could right more, but there's no limit

[aitch]

Funk em !! It's more distracting to work the radio or use Sat Nav FFS !! :rolleyes:

Can you get additive free cigs in the UK ?? :confused:

So is this new regulation really enforceable with big fines ..... or not ?? :eek:

[neutron flux]

it won't be long before the landlords will soon be making it a "suggestion" or tenancy act that you can't smoke in "their" property or you face eviction

Well that's what they want in America at the moment:

Officials eye ban on smoky dwellings
Health Dept. to survey landlords
By Stephen Smith, Globe Staff | September 28, 2007

There are smoke-free offices, smoke-free bars, smoke-free malls. Could smoke-free apartment houses and condo towers be next?

Scattered apartment units across the state already ban smoking. But early next year, the Department of Public Health plans to survey landlords, condominium associations, and tenants about the feasibility of making smoke-free residential zones the norm, rather than the exception.

There could even be a state-run registry to connect tenants with landlords and condo boards that offer developments entirely devoid of smoke.

The state review emerges as an influential coalition of health and housing officials is issuing a sweeping call to make smoke-free housing standard across New England. The Asthma Regional Council will issue a report today saying that mounting evidence about the dangers of secondhand smoke, especially to children, provides the best argument for establishing rules that restrict smoking in buildings with multiple units.



http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/09/28/officials_eye_ban_on_smoky_dwellings/

[john white]

Hmm!

Next thing skinning up whilst steering with the knees will be out too!

[whitenight639]

I laughed my tits off when i got in me mates car last night and he told me he couldnt smoke whilst driving, I told him to get fucked, if they ban you breathing in the car are you gonna hold your breath?
a smoker thats been without a cig for hours is 10-100x more dangerous than smoking in the car!!!
getting a cd out the glovebox is loads more dangerous than sparking up.

[phoenixchilde]

a smoker thats been without a cig for hours is 10-100x more dangerous than smoking in the car!!!
getting a cd out the glovebox is loads more dangerous than sparking up.

You're exactly right on both accounts whitenight. I personally find smoking to be disgusting and stupid, but so is this law. I don't know, has England got enough brains to outlaw talking on cell phones while driving?

[whitenight639]

has England got enough brains to outlaw talking on cell phones while driving?

yep they started with that a couple of yrs ago, thing is its still legal to use a hands free, now when im on the fone whilst driving i hold it to my ear with my shoulder and could drive fine like that, apart from the distraction of the conversation!!! which is just the same as using a hands free!

[resistance]

All of the duty and tax that their losing on tobacco etc they are now replacing with stealth taxes such as global warming and road fines, i wonder what other so called offenses they come up with next tu further tax us with?

[john white]

All of the duty and tax that their losing on tobacco etc they are now replacing with stealth taxes such as global warming and road fines, i wonder what other so called offenses they come up with next tu further tax us with?

Its almost like charging us for NOT selling us something!

[lottie]

Yes i heard this on the radio friday....im sure that 4 screaming children and babies in the back of your 4x4 doing the school run are far more distracting than me on my own peacefully smoking a fag on the way to work....

Im sure they were saying on the radio that you could smoke, you just wernt allowed to light it up whilst driving- you have to pull over to ignite the cigarrette....:confused:

[gold]

These laws are just getting more and more LOCO! I think they are just seeing how far they can push us. The only time I've ever had a mishap in the car was when a passenger distracted me. Well I'm not going to stop puffin behind the wheel, and they can fine me and do what they like, I refuse to conform to this one.

[resistance]

Off the subject of smoking fines and on tu another form of stealth tax, i do lots of sea fishing and the word is that they are going tu bring out compulsory licensing for that:mad: well i for one and all of my fishing buddies have already spoken about this one! and if the government think that they can enforce this one with a few snotty bailiffs then they are very mistaken, some of the people that i fish with are not as nice as myself and if anybody is brave or stupid enough tu try and confiscate their gear they will find themselves either in the drink or in a casualty ward.

[cf24]

Its also just another excuse to pull you over, hold you up, and have a sniff about your motor to see if they can find something else to nick you for.....

[john white]

Its also just another excuse to pull you over, hold you up, and have a sniff about your motor to see if they can find something else to nick you for.....

"They" don't need an excuse: hav'nt for some time

[gold]

Off the subject of smoking fines and on tu another form of stealth tax, i do lots of sea fishing and the word is that they are going tu bring out compulsory licensing for that:mad: well i for one and all of my fishing buddies have already spoken about this one! and if the government think that they can enforce this one with a few snotty bailiffs then they are very mistaken, some of the people that i fish with are not as nice as myself and if anybody is brave or stupid enough tu try and confiscate their gear they will find themselves either in the drink or in a casualty ward.


:D:D I like it! What about cycling any whisper about that?

[llogun]

Everything they throw at the puplic, The puplic just say ok. To me its to see how far they can push us and get away with and they seem to be doing a good job. The next thing will be, you carnt pick your nose in the car So if you get a cold it might cost you £60. So when they bring the mico chip in it will be a piece of cake for them. <If we can nickem for smoking in the car and they say nothing what els can we do with these sheep i no lets nick them for picking there nose>

[gold]

Everything they throw at the puplic, The puplic just say ok. To me its to see how far they can push us and get away with and they seem to be doing a good job. The next thing will be, you carnt pick your nose in the car So if you get a cold it might cost you £60. So when they bring the mico chip in it will be a piece of cake for them. <If we can nickem for smoking in the car and they say nothing what els can we do with these sheep i no lets nick them for picking there nose>

:D One of these days, I'm gonna go out out and break every law in the book(well not quite everyone) just to see how many I can clock up! Lets face it, it wont be hard, on average I break 4 a day now!

[resistance]

Hi gold, do yu do any sea fishing then?

[gold]

Hi gold, do yu do any sea fishing then?

Don't be silly! The only sea fishing I've done is on the mud flaps in Penclawdd, Gower, for cockles and that was a disaster!!!

[shodan]

i do lots of sea fishing and the word is that they are going tu bring out compulsory licensing for that

Me too dude, on the north east and scottish coast (Balcary point etc). I've heard this too, also, last I heard there was a cod ban on shore fishing? Have you got info on that? Sorry for digressing.

[resistance]

Me too dude, on the north east and scottish coast (Balcary point etc). I've heard this too, also, last I heard there was a cod ban on shore fishing? Have you got info on that? Sorry for digressing.

Hi, I have heard various rumours of baning cod fishing, but its not us anglers that just take a few that is destroying our fish stocks its the way they are being hammered by the commercials. As i said i will still carry on fishing even if they ban it, fuk em i say and all there dictatorial laws, and that is the general feeling from most anglers, if any bailiffs want tu start making trouble with us then let them, but word from the ground is that its gonna get nasty down here!

[pri01]

I get even more upset when I hear about having a license for this and license for that. It seems to me that food is very much controlled. Not just in the sea or rivers. I learned from a tv cookery programme that food which is grown in allotments cannot be sold.

[resistance]

Thats right food is being controlled and i believe there will come a time when food will rocket in price and decrease in abundance, we are licensed and taxed on just about everything apart from a very few things, sea fishing being one of them, that unfortunately is soon tu change.

[notaslave]

You will need a licence to grow a cabbage in your garden the way things are going.

[spacegurl]

http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/therap.htm

[gold]

http://www.forces.org/evidence/evid/therap.htm

Thanks for this spacgurl! I feel much better about my addictive smoking habit know:):)