BILL O'REILLY and BLACKS

[felakuti]

Bill O'Reilly went to a restaurant (Sylvia's) in Harlem (an historical and prominent African American milieu in NY city) with Rev. Al Sharpton. During his visit, Bill O'Reilly stated, he "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City.

He couldn't believe that African Americans conducted themselves with respect. Apparently, he was surprised that "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'Motherfvcker, I want more iced tea.' "

According to him, he also went to Anita Baker's concert. He further stated that at the concert he was thrown off to see African Americans well dressed; "It was unbelievable that folks were in tuxedos".

I tend to see his comments as patronising bs, and more likely than not racist, but some of my pals actually think that PR wise, he did (we) blacks a favour, albeit in a fairly dubious manner, against the relentless tide of stereotypical representations of 'black culture' as showcased by the likes of 50 cent, Ludacris, and Snoop Dog.

I wonder what you guys think? :)


For O'Reilly's amazing record, please click:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007

[peachped]

He's probably been watching too much Chris Rock. :rolleyes:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[anoninnyc]

I tend to see his comments as patronising bs, and likely racist, but some of my pals actually think he did blacks a favour, PR wise, against the relentless tide of stereotypical representations of 'black culture' as led by the likes of Snoop Dog, Ludacris, and Twista.

I wonder what you guys think? :)


I agree with both you AND your friends. Yeah it was patronizing and come on, you think a jerk like Bill O'Reilly isn't a racist? But the end result is good for African Americans.

[felakuti]

I hear you Anon, but to be honest I always cringe when I read/hear stuff like this coming from public personalities like O'Reilly.

It always gets me thinking ''Who the fvck does this fool think he is?'' :cool:

[trumansho]

Bill O'Reilly went to a restaurant (Sylvia's) in Harlem (an historical and prominent African American milieu in NY city) with Rev. Al Sharpton. During his visit, Bill O'Reilly stated, he "couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City.

He couldn't believe that African Americans conducted themselves with respect. Apparently, he was surprised that "There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'Motherfvcker, I want more iced tea.' "

According to him, he also went to Anita Baker's concert. He further stated that at the concert he was thrown off to see African Americans well dressed; "It was unbelievable that folks were in tuxedos".

I tend to see his comments as patronising bs, and more likely than not racist, but some of my pals actually think that PR wise, he did (we) blacks a favour, albeit in a fairly dubious manner, against the relentless tide of stereotypical representations of 'black culture' as showcased by the likes of 50 cent, Ludacris, and Snoop Dog.

I wonder what you guys think? :)


For O'Reilly's amazing record, please click:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007I'm from NyC originally and I ate there at sylvia a couple of times in Harlem. And bill is supposed to a be an Educated man from Long Island, Ny and you mean to tell me he doesn't know that blacks act civilized and well mannered. Shit we taught ya'll how to act civilized and well mannered. We weren't the ones walking on all fours acting like animals in caves. Everything we done the caucasion race just now and will never catch up to. But the way he thinks is how most white America thinks.

[felakuti]

Trumansho, well, you're broadly correct, based inter alia on the accounts of the ancient Greek writers like Herodotus, Diodorus of Sicily and others, who wrote that the ancient Egyptians were black, and that the Greeks learned civilization from them...

So yes, in light of that it does seem a bit odd that a white guy like Bill O'Reilly would have the gall to come out with something like that. ;)

[turquoisefyre]

"I love black people but I hate niggers..."
- Chris Rock


now there's putting the record straight. too bad alot of people don't realise they are Niggers (including alot of non-blacks).

i'm still confused over why some people like to hang on to their stupid fucking ghetto mentality...:confused:

seen that whole show on Paramount Comedy, btw.

[anoninnyc]

"I love black people but I hate niggers..."
- Chris Rock



i just find that word really hateful. while i am not black, i am iranian and i have been called a sand nigger before. i just found it so very hurtful that i actually cried. towel head, camel jockey, etc. somehow don't pack the same punch. i don't care if black people use the word nigger. i don't like it and i don't think it should be a part of anyone's vocabulary. freedom of speech and all i agree with, by i am also free to complain.

[mountain]

"I love black people but I hate niggers..."
- Chris Rock


now there's putting the record straight. too bad alot of people don't realise they are Niggers (including alot of non-blacks).

i'm still confused over why some people like to hang on to their stupid fucking ghetto mentality...:confused:

seen that whole show on Paramount Comedy, btw.

Why does this very comment seem so rascist?? I mean, really, was it necessary to even say that "alot of non-blacks"? Let me guess. You're one of those people that thinks that word is exclusive to the black race, right?

[mountain]

i just find that word really hateful. while i am not black, i am iranian and i have been called a sand nigger before. i just found it so very hurtful that i actually cried. towel head, camel jockey, etc. somehow don't pack the same punch. i don't care if black people use the word nigger. i don't like it and i don't think it should be a part of anyone's vocabulary. freedom of speech and all i agree with, by i am also free to complain.

What does "not black" mean? How does a person decide what race is black & white? Anyway, EVERYBODY"S a nigger to rascist white people. Like you said, if you are Indian and Middle Eastern, you're a sand nigger, the Mongoloid race are yellow niggers, etc.

[eternal_spirit]

Why does this very comment seem so rascist?? I mean, really, was it necessary to even say that "alot of non-blacks"? Let me guess. You're one of those people that thinks that word is exclusive to the black race, right?

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Call me honkey I don't mind. How did the word honkey originate? At a guess the word nigga might mean Nigeria? but in slang form?

[eternal_spirit]

In fact isn't there a country named Niger?

[synak]

Race....is the human race and anything beyond this is simply people convincing themselves and others that somehow we are different to one another and must act as such. DIVIDE AND CONQUER, keep them divided and you keep them distracted. No one is WHITE and no one is BLACK or any other color that is labeled upon a human being. In fact if you wanted to submit to such weak mental control and call each other colors then technically "blacks" would actually be various variations of "brown". And "whites"? Well, pick up a fresh new sheet of printing paper and hold it beside a "white person's" skin and tell me which one is actually white and which one is not.

Look in the dictionary and read the definition for both WHITE and BLACK then tell me what you see. It is a psychological manipulation to divide the masses that is designed to subconsciously create an inferiority complex among some and a superiority complex among others.

The word WHITE: Being of the color white; devoid of hue, as new snow. Bloodless; blanched. Unsullied; pure. Clean. benevolent; without malicious intent; Protection, Peace, Purity, Truth; having no faults; sinless; morally admirable
http://www.answers.com/white&r=67
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/white

The word BLACK: Having little or no light: Being of the color black, producing or reflecting comparatively little light and having no predominant hue. Having little or no light: Soiled, as from soot; dirty: Evil; wicked: Cheerless and depressing; gloomy: Marked by anger or sullenness: Deserving of, indicating, or incurring censure or dishonor: Covered or stained with or as if with dirt or other impurities: Dark and depressing: Characterized by intense ill will or spite:
http://www.answers.com/black&r=67

Here is a sad testimony to the truth I've presented in the form of a video shown on CNN called the 'The Doll Experiment' experiment where all of the children regardless of their supposed "race" *sigh* preferred the "white" doll overall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VLB4z5d93k

To even acknowledge these malicious programmed perceptions of "colors" among human beings is to willingly subject yourselves to mental slavery and I only hope that in time the souls inhabiting this planet can all break free from these chains. Stop investing in the materialistic and superficial aspects force fed to you since your very first memories and realize the beauty that we all share.

Nationalities? More of the same slew of divide and conquer methods used to prevent our unification. I have no nationality, ethnicity, or color. I am human and I was born on a land mass known as a planet. Forget being called a 'human being' because I'd even go as far as to say that 'physically' I'm simply a living entity in the form of a vessel being occupied by a soul.

http://i14.tinypic.com/52y0eaq.gif

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[mountain]

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Call me honkey I don't mind. How did the word honkey originate? At a guess the word nigga might mean Nigeria? but in slang form?

I doubt seriously if the originators of the word "nigger" were even aware of these countries names or existence. That's how very unintelligent they were.

[eternal_spirit]

I doubt seriously if the originators of the word "nigger" were even aware of these countries names or existence. That's how very unintelligent they were.

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Okay so how do you think the word came to be? And why do some coloured find it so offensive? Spic is a shortened version of Spaniard meaning people form Spain. Mick is used for the Irish.

[synak]

I'm assuming that perhaps it originated from the Spaniards in one way or another (don't forget how they enslaved many Africans & Indians). The word 'negro' in Spanish for example means black. This word isn't very much different.

[mountain]

From Synak's last post, last paragrapgh:

"Nationalities? More of the same slew of divide and conquer methods used to prevent our unification. I have no nationality, ethnicity, or color. I am human and I was born on a land mass known as a planet. Forget being called a 'human being' because I'd even go as far as to say that 'physically' I'm simply a living entity in the form of a vessel being occupied by a soul."

YES! Many of us have not grasped this truth yet, and it is a shame, but I have hope! WE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL BEINGS HAVING A HUMAN EXPERIENCE!

[eternal_spirit]

I'm assuming that perhaps it originated from the Spaniards in one way or another (don't forget how they enslaved many Africans & Indians). The word 'negro' in Spanish for example means black. This word isn't very much different.
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I agree words come about like this. I don't think it's a put down.

[mountain]

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Okay so how do you think the word came to be? And why do some coloured find it so offensive? Spic is a shortened version of Spaniard meaning people form Spain. Mick is used for the Irish.

I am in a beautiful coloered body and if another wants to pay special attention to it and call it a "nigger", then so be it! I personally have never been called one to my face, and if I was, I would laugh!

[eternal_spirit]

I am in a beautiful coloered body and if another wants to pay special attention to it and call it a "nigger", then so be it! I personally have never been called one to my face, and if I was, I would laugh!

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Yes why take offense, some will use it as a put down to make you feel bad, don't let them get to you.

Reincarnation
I could of been a black woman in a previous incarnation and vice versa.

[synak]

From Synak's last post, last paragrapgh:

"Nationalities? More of the same slew of divide and conquer methods used to prevent our unification. I have no nationality, ethnicity, or color. I am human and I was born on a land mass known as a planet. Forget being called a 'human being' because I'd even go as far as to say that 'physically' I'm simply a living entity in the form of a vessel being occupied by a soul."

YES! Many of us have not grasped this truth yet, and it is a shame, but I have hope! WE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL BEINGS HAVING A HUMAN EXPERIENCE!

Thank you! I'm very happy to see someone read and understood exactly where I was coming from. People like you give me hope as well. Cheers!

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I agree words come about like this. I don't think it's a put down.

If they were calling Africans 'negro' then yes I do believe it was then and now is intended as a 'put down'. Though no one should allow themselves to be put down by another's ignorance.

[mountain]

None taken, just bothers me that alot of people here on this forum take a peronal defense whenever race is mentioned. And the anti-semiticism is rife here! Its ridiculous!

[eternal_spirit]

This Bill Oreily seems a nob though. With his preconceived ideas. All races have stereotypical traits some can be used by others as put downs. My families a mixed lot of races as I've said here before.

[eternal_spirit]

I practice what I preach my mixed race family is the proof. Funny how those who don't mix with other races call me a white nazi etc LOL! one word hypocrites.

[mountain]

I practice what I preach my mixed race family is the proof. Funny how those who don't mix with other races call me a white nazi etc LOL! one word hypocrites.

My family is comprised of African, Native american, Chinese, German and Irish.
I do not identify with any of them, but take great pleasure in learning about them and others. I dine on various ethnic foods, which some of my friends think is disgusting. Some friends of mine love it like I do.

My advice to EVERYONE! Consider the reasons why we are mind-controlled to segregate among ourselves! Why are we made to look down on each other when we all do the same basic things; Eat, piss, sing, laugh, cry and make love? Taste everything! Make friends with everybody, or you might find yourself living a very smug life.

It is a good thing that O'Reilly broke out of his shell and experienced the REAL lifestyle of the average Black American, and now maybe all his stuffed up colleagues will do the same, instead of limiting themselves.

[eternal_spirit]

My family is comprised of African, Native american, Chinese, German and Irish.
I do not identify with any of them, but take great pleasure in learning about them and others. I dine on various ethnic foods, which some of my friends think is disgusting. Some friends of mine love it like I do.

My advice to EVERYONE! Consider the reasons why we are mind-controlled to segregate among ourselves! Why are we made to look down on each other when we all do the same basic things; Eat, piss, sing, laugh, cry and make love? Taste everything! Make friends with everybody, or you might find yourself living a very smug life.

It is a good thing that O'Reilly broke out of his shell and experienced the REAL lifestyle of the average Black American, and now maybe all his stuffed up colleagues will do the same, instead of limiting themselves.

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That's right. There is rumored to be some Jew in my family. But this I know for certain....Irish, German, English, Scottish, Welsh, Indian and one Surname Is French. The way I've lived my life isn't the stereo typical Englishman

[pigpot]

Come on Trumansho!! You are not answering my posts you little white cracker son of a b..ch. Come on white, honky, boy you ain't black, shit boy you whiter than the whites of my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eternal_spirit]

Come on Trumansho!! You are not answering my posts you little white cracker son of a b..ch. Come on white, honky, boy you ain't black, shit boy you whiter than the whites of my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jeez :rolleyes:

[turquoisefyre]

i just find that word really hateful. while i am not black, i am iranian and i have been called a sand nigger before. i just found it so very hurtful that i actually cried. towel head, camel jockey, etc. somehow don't pack the same punch. i don't care if black people use the word nigger. i don't like it and i don't think it should be a part of anyone's vocabulary. freedom of speech and all i agree with, by i am also free to complain.

complain as you please. my aim was really to say that the NWO likes to create a class of races and then then they try to get everyone else to associate that race with that type of class.

see a "nigger" for what it is, a creation (word or otherwise) of the elite. doesn't mean that all black folks are the en word...catch my drift?

[pigpot]

Sorry bro,

I'm just not playing any racial card because there isn't one to play. Carry on spouting you Black Crap agenda and see where it get's you. 21.12.2012 isn't too far away so carry on and when you black guys are having you're blood sucked out of your veins just like us whitey's then maybe you'll think "Shit, Al Sharpton's a reptile as well, and so is Jesse and Martin too".

pipgot

[turquoisefyre]

Sorry bro,

I'm just not playing any racial card because there isn't one to play. Carry on spouting you Black Crap agenda and see where it get's you. 21.12.2012 isn't too far away so carry on and when you black guys are having you're blood sucked out of your veins just like us whitey's then maybe you'll think "Shit, Al Sharpton's a reptile as well, and so is Jesse and Martin too".

pipgot

eh? a few months ago i was mistaken for female, and if i'm not mistaken...now i'm black...!!!????!!!

:eek::eek::eek:

ROFLMAO

[eternal_spirit]

eh? a few months ago i was mistaken for female, and if i'm not mistaken...now i'm black...!!!????!!!

:eek::eek::eek:

ROFLMAO

LOl He thinks Trumansho is a white man. He's the only one who thinks this.

[synak]

EDIT: Nvm I digress...

[tiswas]

I agree with mountain, I'm a north indian and have been called a paki, by really ugly uneducated trash. But I DO NOT CARE with their opinions, but the anti-semitism is disgusting in these forums.
I have beautiful colouring and my husband is a white guy, our kids are white.
Their colouring is green eyes and reddish-brown hair.

[eternal_spirit]

I agree with mountain, I'm a north indian and have been called a paki, by really ugly uneducated trash. But I DO NOT CARE with their opinions, but the anti-semitism is disgusting in these forums.
I have beautiful colouring and my husband is a white guy, our kids are white.
Their colouring is green eyes and reddish-brown hair.

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Paki is just a shortening of the word Pakistani.:rolleyes: really you lot need to pull you're head form out you're bottom. What caste are you and what part of India?

[mountain]

I agree with mountain, I'm a north indian and have been called a paki, by really ugly uneducated trash. But I DO NOT CARE with their opinions, but the anti-semitism is disgusting in these forums.
I have beautiful colouring and my husband is a white guy, our kids are white.
Their colouring is green eyes and reddish-brown hair.

I have dated several white men and we are still very good friends. They have told me of how THEY don't like white people. I ask "Why?" and I have gotten the same replies about how they can be assholes and bigots. Now, I can relate to this because i have had a few friends that are black, and they have expressed some extreme rascism as well as their white counterparts. I see this type of asshole mentality among ALL races!

Being the obeservant person that I am, I have noticed that the people that feel this way towards another because of race, tend to have the very traits that they are up against. Its like, what so many researchers are pointing out, like atrracts like, and you will get what you put out, whether physically or mentally! There are people on this forum whining about the racial confrontations they have had, well I ask you?! Have you been worrying about someone harming you? Do you make others around you feel uncomfortable? Karmic Law is very real, and many should consider wondering why things happen like this.

I have noticed that this forum have a few rascist members! They like to rant and rave and argue senseless debates! That if fine with me, its only a matter of time when they will become enlightened and realize that there is one race, the Spiritual ONE!

[tiswas]

North Punjab, and my caste is Sikh Jat.

[mountain]

North Punjab, and my caste is Sikh Jat.

When I was in junior high school, I met two friends. Nassem and Sonia. Naseem is very dark and from Pakistan. Sonia is very light and from Northern India. All of us became good friends. They both spoke Punjabi.

A few questions Tiswas. Is there really a prejudice that exist between the Anglo-Indians and the darker Indians? Why? Is this also in Bangladesh?


THANX

[edit]

EDIT: Nvm I digress...
EDIT/ Entrainement de danse africaine

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=rijrf0pH6wY&mode=related&search=
Nazca Lines
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9629

[synak]

Wonderfully random of you lol, but I meant 'edit' as in I edited my post. :D

[anoninnyc]

complain as you please. my aim was really to say that the NWO likes to create a class of races and then then they try to get everyone else to associate that race with that type of class.

see a "nigger" for what it is, a creation (word or otherwise) of the elite. doesn't mean that all black folks are the en word...catch my drift?

i get what you are saying and i agree. just complaining about the word in general really.

there is no such thing as racial purity anyway. we are all a little bit mixed.

[anoninnyc]

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Paki is just a shortening of the word Pakistani.:rolleyes: really you lot need to pull you're head form out you're bottom. What caste are you and what part of India?

it does not matter where the word came from. it is the energy and intention with which it is used. for example calling a japanese person a jap is highly offensive.

[peachped]

it does not matter where the word came from. it is the energy and intention with which it is used. for example calling a japanese person a jap is highly offensive.

How about calling a Scottish person a Scot?

[eternal_spirit]

it does not matter where the word came from. it is the energy and intention with which it is used. for example calling a japanese person a jap is highly offensive.

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I think it's an excuse in some cases for the one being called the name to react and point the finger and call the name caller a racist. Then they can justify their own racism towards the other race.

I personally wouldn't uses these names because I wouldn't wan't to cause offence.

[eternal_spirit]

How about calling a Scottish person a Scot?


LOl exactley I think these words origins are to do with which country they come from.

[mountain]

LOl exactley I think these words origins are to do with which country they come from.

Well, Africa is a large continent and to call all people of African descent "niggers" because of Niger and Nigeria, is so obviously ignorant.

[eternal_spirit]

To label anyone who speaks the truth about what some Jews do a nazi or anti semitic is much worse.

[tiswas]

To eternal, I don't give a shit is a chav ugly bastard or an ugly balding fat bastard is calling me a Paki. I'm pleased I am not like them at all OK.
By the way what is your problem?
Some of our people are beautiful and sexy OK, and we age well. We should carry guns and weapons to protect ourselves which Hitler banned for the jews before the Holocaust.

[eternal_spirit]

To eternal, I don't give a shit is a chav ugly bastard or an ugly balding fat bastard is calling me a Paki. I'm pleased I am not like them at all OK.
By the way what is your problem?
Some of our people are beautiful and sexy OK, and we age well. We should carry guns and weapons to protect ourselves which Hitler banned for the jews before the Holocaust.
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You know little at all about what I've been posting go read up and watch some of the vids and see who started the war.

[tiswas]

I know eternal that you are from a mixed race family, but what is all this anti-jew feelings coming from?
By the way I can discuss with you than that other guy who is gone now.

[eternal_spirit]

The jews need to let it go. Do any other people get billions of pounds for the suffering during the wars NO! Alot more non jews Europeans...... English, Americans, Russians etc died what do we get? Exaggerated figures and propaganda about the Hollowcaught by the Jew owned media drummed into us from an early age.
Both my grandads fought against the Germans.

What is your problem tiswas with us?

[tiswas]

I have no problem, but I was taught about this holocaust at a young age. It shows that if one group could be singled out it could be another group.

[eternal_spirit]

I have no problem, but I was taught about this holocaust at a young age. It shows that if one group could be singled out it could be another group.

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Please look at the evidence and re educate yourself. The first rule of conspiracy/truthseeking is the official story is usually a lie. Anyway a bit off topic. :) peace You do live what you preach, so I don't see the point in arguing over nothing.

I do believe in instant karma...

[eternal_spirit]

To eternal, I don't give a shit is a chav ugly bastard or an ugly balding fat bastard is calling me a Paki. I'm pleased I am not like them at all OK

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Okay I understand this. There are some ignorrant people who use the P word to intimidate.
Many in the UK thought it was Pakistanis who done the London Bus Bombings.

I think it was Mossad the Zionist Israeli's. That's how they work. They're behind the Aryan nation too. They do this to start up hatred amongst different races, whilst in he publics mind someone else gets the blame and they remain invisible.

It's mostly the Muslims/Arabs etc these days that get labeled terrorists. Mossad is more than likely behind that too. 911? the war on terror Iraqu. Gives the zionist run USA and UK government an excuse to carry on the Wars.

Israel's Mossad
http://judicial-inc.biz/False_15.jpg
Black Ops and False Flags

http://judicial-inc.biz/False_Flags_summary.htm

[anoninnyc]

How about calling a Scottish person a Scot?

no. like i said it is not the word, but the intention behind it. and what it is perceived to be. like calling an irish person a mic, a jew a kyke etc. the way a word is used can attach baggage and hatred and general negative vibes to it.

[peachped]

no. like i said it is not the word, but the intention behind it. and what it is perceived to be. like calling an irish person a mic, a jew a kyke etc. the way a word is used can attach baggage and hatred and general negative vibes to it.

Now wait a minute, you stated that calling a japanese person a jap is highly offensive.

Now what is the difference between calling a japanese person a jap, and calling a Scottish person a Scot? :)

[anoninnyc]

Now wait a minute, you stated that calling a japanese person a jap is highly offensive.

Now what is the difference between calling a japanese person a jap, and calling a Scottish person a Scot? :)

i had already explained this. it is the intention behind the word. just like the word nigger which is derived from the portugese/spanish word negro. it is how a word is used over time and the bad vibes and associations connected with it. nothing inherently wrong about the shortening of japanese to jap, but you know as well as i do that to call someone a jap is to insult them racially. it is all in the historical context. japanese people don't call themselves japs. it was used by racists to describe them. scottish people on the other hand do call themselves a scot and i don't believe this term was ever used to racially degrade them.

[peachped]

i had already explained this. it is the intention behind the word. just like the word nigger which is derived from the portugese/spanish word negro. it is how a word is used over time and the bad vibes and associations connected with it. nothing inherently wrong about the shortening of japanese to jap, but you know as well as i do that to call someone a jap is to insult them racially. it is all in the historical context. japanese people don't call themselves japs. it was used by racists to describe them. scottish people on the other hand do call themselves a scot and i don't believe this term was ever used to racially degrade them.

it is how a word is used over time and the bad vibes and associations connected with it.What bad vibes and associations? Nothing inherently wrong about the shortening of japanese to jap, but you know as well as i do that to call someone a jap is to insult them racially. What rubbish! how do you know wether Japs call themselves Japs or not? :D

[anoninnyc]

it is how a word is used over time and the bad vibes and associations connected with it.What bad vibes and associations? Nothing inherently wrong about the shortening of japanese to jap, but you know as well as i do that to call someone a jap is to insult them racially. What rubbish! how do you know wether Japs call themselves Japs or not? :D

i know because i have japanese friends. don't you know any japanese people?

[eternal_spirit]

Would Frederick be upset if you called him Fred LOL :D

[eternal_spirit]

Like I said earlier call me HONKEY I don't mind. What I would like to know where did that word come to be?

[peachped]

i know because i have japanese friends. don't you know any japanese people?

How do they react when you tell them that white racists oops I mean other people refer to them as der der derr (scary satanic music)..Japs'? :rolleyes:

[anoninnyc]

How do they react when you tell them that white racists oops I mean other people refer to them as der der derr (scary satanic music)..Japs'? :rolleyes:

i never told them that. one time i was out w a bunch of friends and some drunk jerk called my friend a jap. she was very upset about it. noone had to ask her why. it is a commonly known racial slur. what is your problem peachped? do you feel persecuted as a white person or something? what did japanese people ever do to you? why so callous?

[peachped]

i never told them that. one time i was out w a bunch of friends and some drunk jerk called my friend a jap. she was very upset about it. noone had to ask her why. it is a commonly known racial slur. what is your problem peachped? do you feel persecuted as a white person or something? what did japanese people ever do to you? why so callous?

It is not a commonly known racial slur at all , despite your insistance that it is. The Japs are fine, sorry I mean the Japanese people (phew nearly made a racist comment there but I think I got away with it...)

[eternal_spirit]

Seriously we do shorten words here in the UK if the Japanese are mentioned it's always the Japs are good at Karate or whatever it's not a put down here.

We call ourselves Brits ( British ) oh dear we racially abuse ourselves.

[mountain]

i do not know your friend but is is possible that she was offended by the way the man called her out? Did you ask her? I think that most Asians get offended by people calling them all Chinese.

[anoninnyc]

Jap
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term Jap is used in English as an abbreviation of the word "Japanese." Today it is usually used as an ethnic slur, though English speaking countries differ in the degree they consider the term offensive. Most people of Japanese descent in these countries consider it offensive.

In Japanese dictionaries, the term Jap is only defined as a disparaging term used against the Japanese people; this is also the case in many English language dictionaries.[1] In the United States and Canada, the term is now considered derogatory; Webster's Dictionary notes it is "usually disparaging."[2] In the United Kingdom it is considered derogatory, and the Oxford dictionary defines it as offensive.[3] In the past the term was not considered primarily offensive, for example the Boondocks Road in Jefferson County, Texas was originally named "Jap Road" when it was built in 1905 to honor a popular local rice farmer from Japan.[4]

The three-letter and two-letter international country code (ISO 3166) for Japan, JPN and JP, are also commonly used for the abbreviation of Japan.
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* 1 Wartime slur
* 2 Actions of civil rights groups
* 3 References
* 4 See also
* 5 External links

[edit] Wartime slur
Newspaper headlines announcing Japanese surrender in World War II
Newspaper headlines announcing Japanese surrender in World War II

The first recorded use of Jap was in 1860 to refer to members of the Japanese embassy in the United States. It was later popularized during World War II to describe those of Japanese descent, and was then commonly used in newspaper headlines to refer to the Japanese and Imperial Japan.

"Jap" was a derogatory term during the war, more so than "Nip."[5] Some in the United States Marine Corps also tried to combine the word "Japs" with "Apes" to create a new description, "Japes", for the Japanese. However, this new word never became popular.[5] Veteran and author Paul Fussell explains the usefulness of the word during the war for creating effective propaganda by saying that "Japs" "was a brisk monosyllable handy for slogans like "Rap the Jap" or "Let's Blast the Jap Clean Off the Map."[5]

[edit] Actions of civil rights groups

In Texas, under pressure from civil rights groups, Jefferson County commissioners in 2004 decided to drop the name "Jap Road" from a 4.3-mile road near the city of Beaumont. The road was originally named Jap Road in 1905 in honor of a local Japanese rice farmer.[6][7] Also in adjacent Orange County, "Jap Lane" has also been targeted by civil rights groups.[8] The road was originally named for the contributions of Kichimatsu Kishi and the farming colony he founded.

Jap - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[anoninnyc]

i do not know your friend but is is possible that she was offended by the way the man called her out? Did you ask her? I think that most Asians get offended by people calling them all Chinese.

she called him a racist ass, so i am pretty sure it was because it is an ethnic slur.

[felakuti]

Look, everyone here seems to accept that there's more to the human frame than just the body, ie it houses an immortal spirit that regains its freedom upon physical death. Fine.

If this is true, it makes racism ridiculous for obvious reasons - ie transcendental souls cannot possibly be defined by the color of their temporal physical coats..

If it is false, it makes racism ridiculous as well, cos it means we're all really shite. Someone's plaything. Puny, little toys destined for the scrap-heap of non-existence after 70 yrs if that.

So anyway you look at it, racism makes no sense. :D

[anoninnyc]

Look, everyone here seems to accept that there's more to the human frame than just the body, ie it houses an immortal spirit that regains its freedom upon physical death. Fine.

If this is true, it makes racism ridiculous for obvious reasons - ie transcendental souls cannot possibly be defined by the color of their temporal physical coats..

If it is false, it makes racism ridiculous as well, cos it means we're all really shite, someone's plaything. Puny little toys destined for the scrap-heap of non-existence after 70 years if that.

So anyway you look at it, racism makes no sense. :D

well said.

[phoenixchilde]

I hope Bill O'Reilly's comment doesn't make people think that all us whites are racist. I can't beleive he was actually surprised by seeing black people acting, well, normally. Whenever someone on the internet speaks in ebonics and calls me racist for asking them to speak normally, I always make the joke that it's not racist, because I've never met a black person who actually talks like that. I've met plenty of white guys who do, but haven't yet met a black person that does. Only seen it on TV.

[trumansho]

I hope Bill O'Reilly's comment doesn't make people think that all us whites are racist. I can't beleive he was actually surprised by seeing black people acting, well, normally. Whenever someone on the internet speaks in ebonics and calls me racist for asking them to speak normally, I always make the joke that it's not racist, because I've never met a black person who actually talks like that. I've met plenty of white guys who do, but haven't yet met a black person that does. Only seen it on TV.
but if ebonics is such a bad thing. Why do everytime I turn around whites are using it in commercials,movies everday conversations?

[damagedbrainn]

What rubbish! how do you know wether Japs call themselves Japs or not? :D

Because the Japanese people speak an entirely different language. In their language, they don't refer to themselves as "Japanese", so why would they refer to themselves as "Japs"? To them, it's not an abbreviation; they're only familiar with the term as an ethnic slur.

[peachped]

Because the Japanese people speak an entirely different language. In their language, they don't refer to themselves as "Japanese", so why would they refer to themselves as "Japs"? To them, it's not an abbreviation; they're only familiar with the term as an ethnic slur.


I would hope that they aren't that brainwashed into taking an abbreviation as a slur.

is it racist to call Scottish person a Scot?

[anoninnyc]

I would hope that they aren't that brainwashed into taking an abbreviation as a slur.

is it racist to call Scottish person a Scot?

are you not capable of understanding the historical context of the word jap? peachped, i really think that you are just a racist or else lack sensitivity or empathy.

[phoenixchilde]

but if ebonics is such a bad thing. Why do everytime I turn around whites are using it in commercials,movies everday conversations?

I personally don't think ebonics is bad. I like it. When it comes to matters of friendship, respect and loyalty, I find ebonics can say it better than "proper" english.

[phoenixchilde]

I would hope that they aren't that brainwashed into taking an abbreviation as a slur.

is it racist to call Scottish person a Scot?

It's not brainwashing. The term was started during the second world war as a derogatory comment. Paki is an abbreviation, are you going to deny that it's a racist term as well?

[peachped]

are you not capable of understanding the historical context of the word jap? peachped, i really think that you are just a racist or else lack sensitivity or empathy.


No anon I think the Japs are great.The word is merely an abbreviation,it's just the same as calling someone a Scot or a Russkie.

[peachped]

It's not brainwashing. The term was started during the second world war as a derogatory comment. Paki is an abbreviation, are you going to deny that it's a racist term as well?

More brainwashing.

[anoninnyc]

No anon I think the Japs are great.The word is merely an abbreviation,it's just the same as calling someone a Scot or a Russkie.

yeah except it is a name not of their choosing that was used during wartime by soldiers trying to kill them. do you also think that nigger is great? because linguistically there is nothing inherently wrong about that word.

[eternal_spirit]

are you not capable of understanding the historical context of the word jap? peachped, i really think that you are just a racist or else lack sensitivity or empathy.
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I think all these comments about us Whites being racist is just you coloureds prejudices against us, it's reverse racism. You're so quick to shout racist at us for no reason.

I think the whites are the least racist of all races, we inter marry more with others. But you lot mostly don't wan't no white boy to marry and breed with you're daughters this is a fact. It's rarer than rocking horse shit.

So who are the most racist?

[anoninnyc]

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I think all these comments about us Whites being racist is just you coloureds prejudices against us, it's reverse racism. You're so quick to shout racist at us for no reason.

I think the whites are the least racist of all races, we inter marry more with others. But you lot mostly don't wan't no white boy to marry and breed with you're daughters this is a fact. It's rarer than rocking horse shit.

So who are the most racist?

you are paranoid. so many iranians marry white people. it is very very common, in america at least. i am done here. the negativity has gotten to me. goodbye.

[eternal_spirit]

you are paranoid. so many iranians marry white people. it is very very common, in america at least. i am done here. the negativity has gotten to me. goodbye.

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Oaky you think I'm racist, but because I've caught you out.. you won't reply.

I hope there is no attack on Iran. good luck.

I've seen many black/asian men with white girls here in the UK.
Once I've seen it the other way round .

[eternal_spirit]

I imagine us whites are viewed as having stereo typical traits?characteristics by coloureds. So it works both ways.

[mountain]

The area I live in is full of interracial couplings. Lots of black men with asian women, white men with black women, white men with black men...

All nice varieties! I light up inside seeing everyone SO in LOVE!:)

[eternal_spirit]

The area I live in is full of interracial couplings. Lots of black men with asian women, white men with black women, white men with black men...

All nice varieties! I light up inside seeing everyone SO in LOVE!:)
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This is the way forward and a great example others should learn by and follow.

[eternal_spirit]

you are paranoid. so many iranians marry white people. it is very very common, in america at least. i am done here. the negativity has gotten to me. goodbye.

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Okay seems people have different attitudes depending on which country they live. I'm not trying to offend you, sorry if I have. And wouldn't use the word niger/paki etc when talking to someone because I know they may find it offensive.

And cannot imagine how you must feel, knowing that Iran may fall under attack to the NWO. We feel powerless and you probably realise most of the people on the Planet do not wan't War.

[damagedbrainn]

I would hope that they aren't that brainwashed into taking an abbreviation as a slur.

is it racist to call Scottish person a Scot?

Pay attention:

You said, "How do you know Japs don't refer to themselves as Japs?"

I replied, "Because the Japanese people speak an entirely different language. In their language, they don't refer to themselves as "Japanese", so why would they refer to themselves as "Japs"?"

Comparing that to calling the Scottish "Scots" is just dumb. The Scottish speak English, and therefore, can recognize "Scot" as an abbreivation. (However, it can also be used in a derogatory context just as the word "white" can.)

[damagedbrainn]

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I think the whites are the least racist of all races,

LOL
Seriously, you're too much.

[damagedbrainn]

I would hope that they aren't that brainwashed into taking an abbreviation as a slur.

is it racist to call Scottish person a Scot?

Another degorgatory word used against the Japanese was "Nips". Do you see that as an ethnic slur?

[peachped]

Another degorgatory word used against the Japanese was "Nips". Do you see that as an ethnic slur?

No. to me a racial or ethnic slur would be to call them all 'dirty japs' or nips, or be disparaging about them as a race in some other way.

No one should be made to feel ashamed or victimised by racism all because of a shortened monicker that identifies their country of origin. It's absurd.

If you want to hold onto a negative connotation then that's your choice but I think some over sensitive people should lose their hang-ups over an abbreviation Instead of becoming indignant over someone's choice of vocabulary.

[eternal_spirit]

LOL
Seriously, you're too much.

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I've seen it in real life.( not some bull on tv) I've been beaten on for being white called names, they didn't get my money, one had a knife fuck knows what would of happened if I hadn't escaped.
Seeing/experiencing is believing.


What I have seen on TV I always remember the Rodney King beating....( which was real and shocking ) But you know those fucking pigs( police) beat up whites with truncheons too!

What was even worse was the so called revenge attacks on whites after that incident. Did you see the video .... A group of black racists beat the crap out of some innocent white truck driver.... the driver just about got to his feet after they'd kicked the shite out of him, then one of them took a run up of about ten yards and punched him square in the face knocked him down then they where running around jumping in the air laughing.

So all you coloureds shouting racist at us white forum members probably never been beaten on by whites right?

You get called niger or jap GET FUCKIN REAL!:rolleyes:

[mountain]

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I've seen it in real life.( not some bull on tv) I've been beaten on for being white called names, they didn't get my money, one had a knife fuck knows what would of happened if I hadn't escaped.
Seeing/experiencing is believing.


What I have seen on TV I always remember the Rodney King beating....( which was real and shocking ) But you know those fucking pigs( police) beat up whites with truncheons too!

What was even worse was the so called revenge attacks on whites after that incident. Did you see the video .... A group of black racists beat the crap out of some innocent white truck driver.... the driver just about got to his feet after they'd kicked the shite out of him, then one of them took a run up of about ten yards and punched him square in the face knocked him down then they where running around jumping in the air laughing.

So all you coloureds shouting racist at us white forum members probably never been beaten on by whites right?

You get called niger or jap GET FUCKIN REAL!:rolleyes:

Would you feel the same if whites had beat you up?? Just curious!

[eternal_spirit]

Would you feel the same if whites had beat you up?? Just curious!
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That's not the issue.

[mountain]

Why does it seem like this is turning into another racial rampage?? WHY? there are so many threads that are filled with such positive content, so why do we choose to use our energy to debate about senseless issues!

Don't care if anyone disagrees but it is SO rascist to keep discussing topics of race, and debating about them. I myself have experienced rascism and guess what I did? I laughed at it in the face! It feels awful at first that someone who hardly knows you at all, simply judges you and says crude things to you, because you do not look like them! It is even more amusing when someone mistakes you for another race altogether, and then slur you for that!

IT"S SO FUNNY BECAUSE ITS OBVIOUS AND IGNORANT!

[mynameis]

As someone much wiser than I stated, "All violence are hate crimes."

[phoenixchilde]

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I think all these comments about us Whites being racist is just you coloureds prejudices against us, it's reverse racism. You're so quick to shout racist at us for no reason.

I think the whites are the least racist of all races, we inter marry more with others. But you lot mostly don't wan't no white boy to marry and breed with you're daughters this is a fact. It's rarer than rocking horse shit.

So who are the most racist?

There's a saying in Danmark that roughly translates as "thief thinks that everyone steals." You say that people are quick to shout racist at you, but you're pretty quick to shout racist back. Hating someone for hating is not justified, nor is it logical.

[eternal_spirit]

There's a saying in Danmark that roughly translates as "thief thinks that everyone steals." You say that people are quick to shout racist at you, but you're pretty quick to shout racist back. Hating someone for hating is not justified, nor is it logical.

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Erm can you not read English?

[eternal_spirit]

The lesser of the two evils.....name calling.

[eternal_spirit]

You're right Mountain I couldn't give a shiny shite about these kind of threads anymore.

[damagedbrainn]

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I've seen it in real life.( not some bull on tv) I've been beaten on for being white called names, they didn't get my money, one had a knife fuck knows what would of happened if I hadn't escaped.
Seeing/experiencing is believing.


What I have seen on TV I always remember the Rodney King beating....( which was real and shocking ) But you know those fucking pigs( police) beat up whites with truncheons too!

What was even worse was the so called revenge attacks on whites after that incident. Did you see the video .... A group of black racists beat the crap out of some innocent white truck driver.... the driver just about got to his feet after they'd kicked the shite out of him, then one of them took a run up of about ten yards and punched him square in the face knocked him down then they where running around jumping in the air laughing.

So all you coloureds shouting racist at us white forum members probably never been beaten on by whites right?

You get called niger or jap GET FUCKIN REAL!:rolleyes:

The fact that you think everyone who disagrees with you or calls you a "racist" on this forum is "coloured" is yet another reason why people think you are racist. Seriously, the harder you try to insist that you are not a racist, the more racist you end up sounding. It's a vicious cycle.

[eternal_spirit]

The fact that you think everyone who disagrees with you or calls you a "racist" on this forum is "coloured" is yet another reason why people think you are racist. Seriously, the harder you try to insist that you are not a racist, the more racist you end up sounding. It's a vicious cycle.
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LOL what ever Trav. You like to take my post way out of context. Whatever turns you on.

[damagedbrainn]

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LOL what ever Trav. You like to take my post way out of context. Whatever turns you on.

Trav?

[eternal_spirit]

Trav?

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Travis?

[damagedbrainn]

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Travis?

No, not Travis.

[phoenixchilde]

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Erm can you not read English?

Yes I can, thank you for noticing. Now that that's out of the way, why don't you just deal with what I said instead of sidetracking the conversation.

[nickatnoon61]

I hear you Anon, but to be honest I always cringe when I read/hear stuff like this coming from public personalities like O'Reilly.

It always gets me thinking ''Who the fvck does this fool think he is?'' :cool:

Thanx felakuti, as a Irish/German/Canadian and a damn good-looking one too!!! :eek: I cannot stand that useful idiot/shabboz goy, O'Reilly. I liked the way Donahue put him in his place!!!! I don't care what race you are...so long as you are good-lookin too!!! ha ha :D

[mountain]

Thanx felakuti, as a Irish/German/Canadian and a damn good-looking one too!!! :eek: I cannot stand that useful idiot/shabboz goy, O'Reilly. I liked the way Donahue put him in his place!!!! I don't care what race you are...so long as you are good-lookin too!!! ha ha :D

Can I see?:D

[eternal_spirit]

There's a saying in Danmark that roughly translates as "thief thinks that everyone steals." You say that people are quick to shout racist at you, but you're pretty quick to shout racist back. Hating someone for hating is not justified, nor is it logical.

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I don't hate I debate. And prove the level of hypocrisy time and time again.

[synergy777]

i was shocked to see whites not walking on all fours, wearing animal skins, looking like fred flinstone. i was shocked at the lack of kkk fans, or people in nazi uniforms, albeit from one member of the german royal family, attending a fancy dress party, lol

[eternal_spirit]

i was shocked to see whites not walking on all fours, wearing animal skins, looking like fred flinstone. i was shocked at the lack of kkk fans, or people in nazi uniforms, albeit from one member of the german royal family, attending a fancy dress party, lol

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:D

[synergy777]

phew, i was bit worried some might take it seriously, lol.

[eternal_spirit]

phew, i was bit worried some might take it seriously, lol.

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I can see the wisdom in you're humor. :cool:

[synergy777]

wise is yoda, wise very much.

[nickatnoon61]

Can I see?:D
Look at my pic on my profile, mountain. LOL I am the best soup chef too!!!! ha ha