Electromagnetic smog, protect yourself

[whitewolf]

Ignorance is bliss but it may also cause us unnecessary suffering. Read the article below please ( I found it on the headlines page though now I can't find it for a link, not used to the new layout probably), Since I aquired an EMF detector http://www.perspective.co.uk/d-commerce/page26.html
this silent, invisible pollution now has sound and my god what a cacophony it makes. This detector turns EMF's into sound. My wireless modem sounds like a helicopter, the overhead flourescent lights like a slowed down air raid alarm, the wi-fi ariels upstairs on top of the building I work in, both of them, are whining and crackling. Something in front of the building, which I have yet to locate, is screaming. And if someone makes a call on a mobile anywhere withing 10 metres of the detector? it's deafening. Horrible! and I'm in this enviroment for hours everyday LET ME OUT !!! into the garden please :)

Please, as from now, minimise your mobile phone use, DO NOT sleep with your mobile near you, putting it in the oven helps, don't laugh! you don't have to switch it on (the oven that is, not a bad idea though) seriously, it act's like a faraday cage. At least keep it as far as possible from you at all times. Get a cheap alarm clock if you're using it for that as I did for a few years, eek! Turn off the power supply to your modem, PC/laptop/tv/hi-fi when you're not using it. I've just tested my modem, I have to be at least 8 metres away before the helicopter noise stops. Get rid of cordless DECT house phones, they are worse than mobiles, the base unit never stops emmitting EMF's, get an old fashioned one with a loopy cord. I tested the base unit of a DECT cordless house phone that was in the apartment upstairs, the EMF's were leeching through the concrete floor into the apartment below, eek!!

The effects from this smog has not shown up yet, protect yourself!
xxxxxxx

An increasingly alarmed army of international scientists have reached a controversial conclusion:

The "electrosmog" that first began developing with the rollout of the electrical grid a century ago and now envelops every inhabitant of Earth is responsible for many of the diseases that impair or kill them.
During the past 100 years, we have methodically filled in the electromagnetic spectrum far beyond what occurs in nature.
Recently, several developments have highlighted the growing hazards of EMF pollution and the crucial need to address them.
In 2007, the Bioinitiative Working Group released a 650-page report citing more than 2,000 studies (many very recent) that detail the toxic effects of EMFs from all sources. Chronic exposure to even low-level radiation (like that from cell phones), can cause a variety of cancers, impair immunity, and contribute to Alzheimer's disease and dementia, heart disease, and many other ailments.
Additionally, every single study of brain tumors that looks at 10 or more years of use shows an increased risk of brain cancer.
A recent study from Sweden is particularly frightening, suggesting that if you started using a cell phone as a teen, you have a 5 times greater risk of brain cancer than those who started as an adult.
A recent study showed that exposure to very-low-frequency voltage signals (1-100kHz), or "dirty electricity,” can greatly increase your risk of melanoma, thyroid cancer, and uterine cancer. These signals are largely by-products of electronics, such as modern energy-efficient appliances, televisions, stereos and other entertainment devices.
These electronic devices use a lower voltage than other appliances, and this manipulation of current creates a complex electromagnetic field. This field not only radiates into the immediate environment but also can travel along home or office wiring throughout the neighborhood.
"For the first time in our evolutionary history, we have generated an entire secondary, virtual, densely complex environment — an electromagnetic soup — that essentially overlaps the human nervous system," says Michael Persinger, PhD, a neuroscientist at Laurentian University who has studied the effects of EMFs on cancer cells.
And it appears that, more than a century after Thomas Edison switched on his first light bulb, the health consequences of that continual overlap are just now beginning to be documented.

[unusual_suspect]

Thanks for the info, like you used to I use an old mobile phone for an alarm clock and apart from that is all I use my mobile phone for :o

My parents kindly got me a cordless phone a year or so ago to replace the one that I did have which was practically an antique.

On another note, have you noticed how people react these days if you say you don't use a mobile? When I was a kid peole managed without them perfectly well, I don't see why we ahould have to carry them about now.

[whitewolf]

Yes, I've noticed how we're all plugged into the mobile phone system now. I managed to resist having one till 7 yrs ago. It's very rare to meet someone who hasn't got one, these days, I always admire them for resisting the temptation. I use mine for my business, otherwise I'd give it up. My business is for sale or else I'll close it down this summer, enough of this bullshit system, slavery for gambling chips (money). Then I'll give it up.

You can buy fabric that screens EMF's http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp I'm getting some, making a small bag and stuffing the modem inside. I don't use the wireless part, it's plugged into my laptop so it should still function.

[cluas]

good post, OP .... Yea the pollution is all around us .... I always has a bad feeling about that wireless stuff....

All that EMF is getting on our nerves, making us stressed .... Damn i liked the good old days .... :rolleyes:

[anthony1965]

It is possible to do something about electrosmog!

And it much of it links up to ions. Positive ions, negative ions and too few ions.

Electrickery gives off positive ions. Pos ions are generally bad for us, triggering anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, respiratory problems, etc.

Negative ions are good for us! Natural sources for negative ions are waterfalls, mountains.

Too few ions, for example, in a car, stuffy modern office building, are very bad for us.

Here is a brilliant book which describes all of this more detail:

Ion Effect: Amazon.co.uk: Fred Soyka, Alan Edmonds: 9780553207552: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sUF5qCF3L.@@AMEPARAM@@51sUF5qCF3L

And another one: Which describes how used wisely, there are benefits to be had from electricity. We are after all bio electrical beings.

Cross Currents: Perils of Electropollution, the Promise of Electromedicine: Amazon.co.uk: Robert O. Becker: 9780874776096: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51C6vvy5bYL.@@AMEPARAM@@51C6vvy5bYL

For the great outdoors, gift the electrosmog sources with orgonite.

For your homes, cars and workplaces you can use orgonite (as a negative ion generator) or other devices available or some simple stuff like salt rock crystals, for example.

** Yesterday I read a superb post on the forum about how to cure cancer with baking soda. The article quoted describes the importance of a healthy bloodstream and mentions ions. ** Cancer is caused by external sources of radiation, that is, positive ions.

Here is the article!

This could be one of the most important things you'll ever read! Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment... too much sugar, refined foods and meat for example. Measure your PH values andset yourself the goal of raising the alkaline level of your body, vegetable juices, veggies, some fruit. The article explains it very well and shows you why the medical mafia aren't really interested in curing anything, just treating it.

http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/Cure_Cancer_with_Baking_Soda.htm

Being aware of ionization (and how to generate negative ions) plus improving a typically poor western diet is simple and massively important for each one of us and our loved ones!

** For anyone tempted to leap to the defence of orthodox quackery...

If they know that sugar feeds cancer why do hospitals provide vending machines selling us the poisons that made us ill and keep us ill.

Knowledge can set you free! :)

Improve your quality of life and lengthen your life expectancy! ;)

[reg126]

I have never had a mobile phone and do not wish to have one. When I go out I dont want to be disturbed and have my day spoiled.
I can not see the point in spending money on something I just do not want and am happy not to be one of the sheeple.

[beldazar]

Thanks for the info, like you used to I use an old mobile phone for an alarm clock and apart from that is all I use my mobile phone for :o

My parents kindly got me a cordless phone a year or so ago to replace the one that I did have which was practically an antique.

On another note, have you noticed how people react these days if you say you don't use a mobile? When I was a kid peole managed without them perfectly well, I don't see why we ahould have to carry them about now.

Yes I agree! :rolleyes:

I have one that I only use to tell the time. I can't see the buttons to text anyone any more, hardly anyone ever rings it and I don't know why I still have it!
Sticking it in the oven isn't a bad idea as long as I remember it's there, lol

My mum has cordless phones in her house, I mentioned the harm last year, she is getting fed up with me saying things aren't good mind :o :( and said they are better for her to use, they have big numbers on and she can walk around with them.

When I bought my son a laptop I bought a wire connection to go with it. Somehow it turned wire-free.
Luckily dreamweaver gave me some instructions to reverse it which I haven't done yet.
My house must be safe though, 2 chembusters and orgonite in every room, I mustn't become to obsessive :eek:
Although I was thinking of getting one of those room ionisers after the article up on the headlines page saying that the WHO is pulling them out of hospitals :cool:

Thanks for your article Anthony, your information on all this is very valuable :)

[rodin]

You know what?

I am almost past caring what they throw at me - EM radiation - aspartame - fluoride - chemtrails - MSG - PCB - gamma rays...

The reason being there is so fucking much of this shit going on how can I possibly plug every hole in the dyke?

I feel like the trooper storming the pill-box, blood pouring from open wounds.

It's all or nothing now.

[anthony1965]

You know what?

I am almost past caring what they throw at me - EM radiation - aspartame - fluoride - chemtrails - MSG - PCB - gamma rays...

The reason being there is so fucking much of this shit going on how can I possibly plug every hole in the dyke?

I feel like the trooper storming the pill-box, blood pouring from open wounds.

It's all or nothing now.

Even the bravest soldier needs dry socks. ;)

Napoleon lost Waterloo because of his bleeding piles....

Take a look at my post number 5. for your own sake and for that of your loved ones. There are some handy tips there that will help to keep you strong and fit for the battles ahead.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058662972&postcount=5

[whitewolf]

Yep, it can all be so overwhelming, as if we can never relax. At times we all feel like saying 'fuck it' and having a good time regardless. Like the betrayer in the Matrix who wants to go back to sleep, we never can, it's too late.

We are bombarded from all sides at all times. However until we become enlightened beings and have remembered how to consciously control energy the bombardment will affect us.

Without becoming paranoid hypochondriacs we can avoid most of it if we are aware of it. Doing whatever we can to alleviate the the sources and effects.

Re organite; it's a question I've had since I got the detector. Even though I have a big piece with crystals sitting on my modem, it it still emitting EMF's it's presence makes no difference to what the detector picks up. I wonder if this evidence of it's effectiveness, or lack of, or something else. Perhaps the EMF's are still there but not affecting us in the same way :confused:

[concordewarrior]

People (should I say sheep) are totally intoxicated by their mobiles. It is like this everywhere. They just can't survive without their mobile phones.

You sit on a bus or on a train and you are aware of everybody's conversations who is on a mobile and they all go on at the same time, the same in supermarkets or any public places: they shout in their mobiles so to let everybody know what they are up to in the next hours or days.

I never fell into the mobile phone trap. I will not get a mobile phone for anything in the world. It is a trap.

[whitewolf]

People (should I say sheep) are totally intoxicated by their mobiles. It is like this everywhere. They just can't survive without their mobile phones.

You sit on a bus or on a train and you are aware of everybody's conversations who is on a mobile and they all go on at the same time, the same in supermarkets or any public places: they shout in their mobiles so to let everybody know what they are up to in the next hours or days.

I never fell into the mobile phone trap. I will not get a mobile phone for anything in the world. It is a trap.

Oh good for you :) I wish I had never succumbed, however the nasty little devil's days are numbered!
According to my detector, it's not the mobile phones themselves that are the main source of EMF's. Apart from other people's wi-fi's, DECT phones and cordless modems polluting your personal space, mostly if you live in towns of course, there are the towers. I have passed towers which are emmitting a terrible noise even 100/200 metres away. Motorways regularly have devices which are emitting EMF's.

GIFT ORGONITE!

So not having a moblile is great but don't rest on your laurals just yet.

One day, I predict, a person using a mobile within 15 metres of other people will be an offence. A bit like smoking is now.

After getting this detector I went on a 4 hr bus journey, everytime someone used their mobile I knew I was being engulfed in microwaves. I felt like switching on the detector full volume so they could hear it too!! :p

[rodin]

Even the bravest soldier needs dry socks. ;)

Napoleon lost Waterloo because of his bleeding piles....

Take a look at my post number 5. for your own sake and for that of your loved ones. There are some handy tips there that will help to keep you strong and fit for the battles ahead.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058662972&postcount=5

Yeah we avoid fluoride and aspartame etc as much as humanly possible, eat locally produced farm food as much as possible etc. Limit mobile phone use. That sort of thing.

[willnotbesilenced]

Hello everyone


I have a question about WiFi routers (and hope this is not going to make
me look ignorant, or informed, whilst I am aware of all the dangers & have been reading the reports about WiFi and cell phones for some time)

Anyway, I just changed my ISP.
Until now, I was with BT, and had one of their small hard-wire routers.

My new ISP however provided a WiFi one, but it came with an ethernet cable for those who want to use hard wire (which obviously I am doing)

My question is this : once the router has got the ethernet cable connected
does this over-ride the WiFi insofaras preventing it from being dangerous ????
or will it still emit EMF radiation ??

When my broadband was switched over I was intending to continue using the BT router... and my new ISP did say that BT router would probably still work.... but, for whatever reason, I couldnt get onto the internet with it, and although I`m reasonably capable when it comes to PC matters - I dont profess to understand what I might need to do to get my BT router to now pick up my new ISP connection (those sort of little tech matters are beyond me because no one has ever explained to me how to sort them) :confused:

[princessofwands]

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Re organite; it's a question I've had since I got the detector. Even though I have a big piece with crystals sitting on my modem, it it still emitting EMF's it's presence makes no difference to what the detector picks up. I wonder if this evidence of it's effectiveness, or lack of, or something else. Perhaps the EMF's are still there but not affecting us in the same way :confused:

This is what I wonder too. We tried to disable the wi-fi from my husband's BT Homehub but we can't get into the system as the password "admin" that's given in the book doesn't work. :( :( He has 2 pieces of orgonite in his office. I hope they are doing some good. We do turn it all off at the wall at the end of the day. But we're still in the wi-fi zone that's coming out of other people's houses. :( :eek: I presume the strength of the emission diminishes the further away you walk from the device, have you found this with your detector?

Do you think the laptops that receive wi-fi from a wi-fi source also give off EMFs?

I get really angry when my daughter fiddles with her mobile in my car, as I know the metal-box-effect makes the EMFs even worse. She's addicted to her 'messages'. You can't get through to people about the dangers because these energies are invisible. They 'listen' (or pretend to) but then they carry on as normal.

:(

[jackdaw]

I have never had a mobile phone and do not wish to have one. When I go out I dont want to be disturbed and have my day spoiled.
I can not see the point in spending money on something I just do not want and am happy not to be one of the sheeple.

I agree with that sentiment. People really have become a prisoner to their phones.

[arty2000]

I have never had a mobile phone and do not wish to have one. When I go out I dont want to be disturbed and have my day spoiled.
I can not see the point in spending money on something I just do not want and am happy not to be one of the sheeple.

dont have one and dont want one...welcome to the forum:)

[whiterain]

Hello everyone


I have a question about WiFi routers (and hope this is not going to make
me look ignorant, or informed, whilst I am aware of all the dangers & have been reading the reports about WiFi and cell phones for some time)

Anyway, I just changed my ISP.
Until now, I was with BT, and had one of their small hard-wire routers.

My new ISP however provided a WiFi one, but it came with an ethernet cable for those who want to use hard wire (which obviously I am doing)

My question is this : once the router has got the ethernet cable connected
does this over-ride the WiFi insofaras preventing it from being dangerous ????
or will it still emit EMF radiation ??

When my broadband was switched over I was intending to continue using the BT router... and my new ISP did say that BT router would probably still work.... but, for whatever reason, I couldnt get onto the internet with it, and although I`m reasonably capable when it comes to PC matters - I dont profess to understand what I might need to do to get my BT router to now pick up my new ISP connection (those sort of little tech matters are beyond me because no one has ever explained to me how to sort them) :confused:

you should be able to disable the wireless. on orange you have a settings page online. im usless at the tech stuff too but ask your provider and they should be able to help turn it off

[freedom1st]

It is possible to do something about electrosmog!

And it much of it links up to ions. Positive ions, negative ions and too few ions.

Electrickery gives off positive ions. Pos ions are generally bad for us, triggering anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts, respiratory problems, etc.

Negative ions are good for us! Natural sources for negative ions are waterfalls, mountains.

Too few ions, for example, in a car, stuffy modern office building, are very bad for us.

Here is a brilliant book which describes all of this more detail:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ion-Effect-Fred-Soyka/dp/0553207555/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266916104&sr=8-13

And another one: Which describes how used wisely, there are benefits to be had from electricity. We are after all bio electrical beings.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cross-Currents-Electropollution-Promise-Electromedicine/dp/0874776090/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1266916376&sr=8-1

For the great outdoors, gift the electrosmog sources with orgonite.

For your homes, cars and workplaces you can use orgonite (as a negative ion generator) or other devices available or some simple stuff like salt rock crystals, for example.

** Yesterday I read a superb post on the forum about how to cure cancer with baking soda. The article quoted describes the importance of a healthy bloodstream and mentions ions. ** Cancer is caused by external sources of radiation, that is, positive ions.

Here is the article!

This could be one of the most important things you'll ever read! Cancer cells thrive in an acid environment... too much sugar, refined foods and meat for example. Measure your PH values andset yourself the goal of raising the alkaline level of your body, vegetable juices, veggies, some fruit. The article explains it very well and shows you why the medical mafia aren't really interested in curing anything, just treating it.

http://www.bamboo-delight.com/download/Cure_Cancer_with_Baking_Soda.htm

Being aware of ionization (and how to generate negative ions) plus improving a typically poor western diet is simple and massively important for each one of us and our loved ones!

** For anyone tempted to leap to the defence of orthodox quackery...

If they know that sugar feeds cancer why do hospitals provide vending machines selling us the poisons that made us ill and keep us ill.

Knowledge can set you free! :)

Improve your quality of life and lengthen your life expectancy! ;)

What do you think of ozone generators? I bought one a few months ago and haven't used it yet coz I'm hearing different things with respect to its safety.

[rreeve]

Excellent post, thank you. And they wonder why all the bee's seem to be disappearing. I suspect it has something to do with all this electromagnetic soup thats invisible pollution.

I haven't had a mobile phone for a year now although I must confess it wasn't because I was concerned about the health implications in was mealy because I was fed up of never having any privacy. I have a router sitting in the box that I've been meaning to set up but now after reading this I'm not going to bother. I've got to start turning off my modem of a night time though.

I live with my landlady and she is a victim of Alzheimer's and it's so hard to see her when she's having a bad day. She literally has no independence left now as I have to deal with all her finances, it's so sad. To think that this could have been caused by electromagnetic pollution makes me so angry because in order to makes someones life better eventually it could do the oposite and take it away.

For the last 18 months or so I've had a constant sound in my head that won't go away. It's a low hum, much like how a laptop sounds when it's switched on. Sometimes all of a sudden the sounds pitch will change briefly which is when I usually notice it. Also I dunno if this is relevant or connected but occasionally I will get a flinch in my head that feels like a current passed over my brain and I see a flash while my head flinches to the side. It doesn't hurt at all and it only happens very occasionally but it is very strange. It would be very disturbing if it was ever proved that electromagnetic pollution had something to do with this.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention, Also when I go to sleep each night. After a couple of minuets laying in bed I will always see random flashes of brilliant white while my eyes are closed. In the silence of the night I actually hear this flash as much as I see it and it sounds like an electric flash. I've laid in bed waiting for it to happen before and when it does because I'm expecting it, it feels like an electric charge passing over my brain. It's very unusual, I read about others experiencing it too. Try it yourself, when you go to sleep tonight, close your eyes and keep yourself awake and just focus on your closed eyelids as if you were using your eyes to look normally. It's such a weird sensation.

Anyway going back to the electromagnetic pollution it kind of sum's up how nieve we as human beings are because we believe if we can't see it it's not there, it doesn't exist. Anything that is letting off electromagnetic waves, including radio should have been testing for at least 20-30 years to test the long and short term effects it could possibly have but because of the greed for profits, technology was released to the masses regardless of what harm they may cause. were in such a situation now where if it was proved that these electromagnetic waves are dangerous very little would be done about it because of how our modern society is structured around it. It would just be considered an acceptable consequence which is frightening.

[beldazar]

you should be able to disable the wireless. on orange you have a settings page online. im usless at the tech stuff too but ask your provider and they should be able to help turn it off

You may find some help on this page :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058643867#post1058643867

[academylin]

I just texted you Beldazar... don't think you heard it, is that because your mobile is still in the oven?:D

[willnotbesilenced]

From what I read laptops are particularly deadly if the user sits with them on their knee.

I would imagine that is accurate info, whilst we only have to look at what area of the body the radiation would be directed towards... aka : the reproduction organs.

I reckon all these people who do that now will - several years down the line - find themselves falling victim to things like ovarian cancer and testicular cancer.

Can we say: `reproduction control` ??

[beldazar]

I just texted you Beldazar... don't think you heard it, is that because your mobile is still in the oven?:D

PMSL!!!! hahahaha, I will go check, could be anywhere :D

Edit, yeah you daft mare, I sent you one back, lol

I bet you loved that article :eek:

gonna come gifting with me now :)

[armoured_amazon]

Excellent thread.

[academylin]

PMSL!!!! hahahaha, I will go check, could be anywhere :D

Edit, yeah you daft mare, I sent you one back, lol

I bet you loved that article :eek:

gonna come gifting with me now :)


Love all these articles, the baking soda one especially... read that some years ago and forgot all bout it! Doh! Busy quoting it all over the forum as we speak!:)

[beldazar]

Love all these articles, the baking soda one especially... read that some years ago and forgot all bout it! Doh! Busy quoting it all over the forum as we speak!:)

lol, you go girl! :D

[urbanmonk]

So basically one of the best things would be to get a negative ion generator (besides cutting back on electric appliances), just wondering if anyone can rec'd a decent desktop one preferably based within the Uk.

Edit: Just to asdd have seen some on for upto £500+ and others around the £30 mark.

If it is primarily being used in a single room at a time what is the real difference?

Can they be easily made?

[joel1212]

Yep, it can all be so overwhelming, as if we can never relax. At times we all feel like saying 'fuck it' and having a good time regardless. Like the betrayer in the Matrix who wants to go back to sleep, we never can, it's too late.

We are bombarded from all sides at all times. However until we become enlightened beings and have remembered how to consciously control energy the bombardment will affect us.

Without becoming paranoid hypochondriacs we can avoid most of it if we are aware of it. Doing whatever we can to alleviate the the sources and effects.

Re organite; it's a question I've had since I got the detector. Even though I have a big piece with crystals sitting on my modem, it it still emitting EMF's it's presence makes no difference to what the detector picks up. I wonder if this evidence of it's effectiveness, or lack of, or something else. Perhaps the EMF's are still there but not affecting us in the same way :confused:
orgonite doesn't stop the EMF waves or all your shit would stop working. They make the waves not harmful to you. I suggest getting a pendant to wear around your neck for protection everywhere and putting some pyraminds around your house! You can also make your own if you'd like, check out the health section of the forums and theres an orgonite sticky

[anthony1965]

So basically one of the best things would be to get a negative ion generator (besides cutting back on electric appliances), just wondering if anyone can rec'd a decent desktop one preferably based within the Uk.

Edit: Just to asdd have seen some on for upto £500+ and others around the £30 mark.

If it is primarily being used in a single room at a time what is the real difference?

Can they be easily made?

I don't have any experience of buying negative ion generators, but I will be doing so in the near future. You're right, the price differences are big. I assume that the devices are built to cope with different sized rooms / spaces, from cars to bedrooms up to offices or hospital wards.

This site looks interesting. Note that they refer to air purifiers.

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/air_purifiers_ionisers.htm

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/emf_protection.htm

And salt rock crystals are also recommended:

http://www.healthwakeup.co.za/PRODUCTS/CSL_Positive_Ions.htm

[anthony1965]

orgonite doesn't stop the EMF waves or all your shit would stop working. They make the waves not harmful to you. I suggest getting a pendant to wear around your neck for protection everywhere and putting some pyraminds around your house! You can also make your own if you'd like, check out the health section of the forums and theres an orgonite sticky

I think it's a question of ions. Orgonite appears to convert positively charged ions into negative ones.

[urbanmonk]

I don't have any experience of buying negative ion generators, but I will be doing so in the near future. You're right, the price differences are big. I assume that the devices are built to cope with different sized rooms / spaces, from cars to bedrooms up to offices or hospital wards.

This site looks interesting. Note that they refer to air purifiers.

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/air_purifiers_ionisers.htm

http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/emf_protection.htm

And salt rock crystals are also recommended:

http://www.healthwakeup.co.za/PRODUCTS/CSL_Positive_Ions.htm

Many thanks for the links :)

I have noticed that alot of these negative ionisers are marketed as air purifiers also, they seem huge over in asia.

I am thinking of going for something along the lines of this http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/ionisers.htm its cheap as chips and if it works in regards to the negative ions then great.

On the other hand if it is useless in that respect it can double as a hydrogen peroxide (very dilute) air purifier.

From the site Antibacterial solution may be added into the water to increase the disinfecting and filtering effectiveness.
The Shell Air Purifier is also a humidifier. Ideal for homes with central heating, which dries out the air.

Edit:Just realised that will not Ionise the room guess buying this along with it will be needed http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/products/ionizer1585.htm

or just go for one of these Prem-I-Air 8" (20cm) folding desk fan: Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & Home@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41hxiJgUDlL.@@AMEPARAM@@41hxiJgUDlL

[whitewolf]

Hello everyone


I have a question about WiFi routers (and hope this is not going to make
me look ignorant, or informed, whilst I am aware of all the dangers & have been reading the reports about WiFi and cell phones for some time)

Anyway, I just changed my ISP.
Until now, I was with BT, and had one of their small hard-wire routers.

My new ISP however provided a WiFi one, but it came with an ethernet cable for those who want to use hard wire (which obviously I am doing)

My question is this : once the router has got the ethernet cable connected
does this over-ride the WiFi insofaras preventing it from being dangerous ????
or will it still emit EMF radiation ??

When my broadband was switched over I was intending to continue using the BT router... and my new ISP did say that BT router would probably still work.... but, for whatever reason, I couldnt get onto the internet with it, and although I`m reasonably capable when it comes to PC matters - I dont profess to understand what I might need to do to get my BT router to now pick up my new ISP connection (those sort of little tech matters are beyond me because no one has ever explained to me how to sort them) :confused:

Dunno if this will shed some light on your question; my modem is wireless but I still have the cable plugged in. It makes the helicopter noise anyway, haven't tried it as a wireless.

[whitewolf]

This is what I wonder too. We tried to disable the wi-fi from my husband's BT Homehub but we can't get into the system as the password "admin" that's given in the book doesn't work. :( :( He has 2 pieces of orgonite in his office. I hope they are doing some good. We do turn it all off at the wall at the end of the day. But we're still in the wi-fi zone that's coming out of other people's houses. :( :eek: I presume the strength of the emission diminishes the further away you walk from the device, have you found this with your detector?
Do you think the laptops that receive wi-fi from a wi-fi source also give off EMFs?

I get really angry when my daughter fiddles with her mobile in my car, as I know the metal-box-effect makes the EMFs even worse. She's addicted to her 'messages'. You can't get through to people about the dangers because these energies are invisible. They 'listen' (or pretend to) but then they carry on as normal.

:(

Yes, they do dimish, I had to walk about 8 metres away till the helicopter noise was gone. However there was still lots of other noises, from what exactly I don't know. However the EMF's are still detectable through a concrete wall with little difference in intensity. When I stand between the modem and the detector, there is a noticable difference.

Haven't tested the laptop wi-fi EMF thing yet, as soon as I can I'll update the thread.

[whitewolf]

you should be able to disable the wireless. on orange you have a settings page online. im usless at the tech stuff too but ask your provider and they should be able to help turn it off

I have a normal non wireless modem at home, it is still causing the detector to scream, not the helicopter noise but a nasty squealing, screech.

[whitewolf]

Have a look at this table of Hz and the effects on the human body. I would copy it direct but don't know how so here's the link.

http://www.bevolution.dk/pdf/BrainwavemodelBevolutionGB.pdf

[whitewolf]

Excellent post, thank you. And they wonder why all the bee's seem to be disappearing. I suspect it has something to do with all this electromagnetic soup thats invisible pollution.

I live with my landlady and she is a victim of Alzheimer's and it's so hard to see her when she's having a bad day. She literally has no independence left now as I have to deal with all her finances, it's so sad. To think that this could have been caused by electromagnetic pollution makes me so angry because in order to makes someones life better eventually it could do the oposite and take it away.

For the last 18 months or so I've had a constant sound in my head that won't go away. It's a low hum, much like how a laptop sounds when it's switched on. Sometimes all of a sudden the sounds pitch will change briefly which is when I usually notice it. Also I dunno if this is relevant or connected but occasionally I will get a flinch in my head that feels like a current passed over my brain and I see a flash while my head flinches to the side. It doesn't hurt at all and it only happens very occasionally but it is very strange. It would be very disturbing if it was ever proved that electromagnetic pollution had something to do with this.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention, Also when I go to sleep each night. After a couple of minuets laying in bed I will always see random flashes of brilliant white while my eyes are closed. In the silence of the night I actually hear this flash as much as I see it and it sounds like an electric flash. I've laid in bed waiting for it to happen before and when it does because I'm expecting it, it feels like an electric charge passing over my brain. It's very unusual, I read about others experiencing it too. Try it yourself, when you go to sleep tonight, close your eyes and keep yourself awake and just focus on your closed eyelids as if you were using your eyes to look normally. It's such a weird sensation.

Anyway going back to the electromagnetic pollution it kind of sum's up how nieve we as human beings are because we believe if we can't see it it's not there, it doesn't exist. Anything that is letting off electromagnetic waves, including radio should have been testing for at least 20-30 years to test the long and short term effects it could possibly have but because of the greed for profits, technology was released to the masses regardless of what harm they may cause. were in such a situation now where if it was proved that these electromagnetic waves are dangerous very little would be done about it because of how our modern society is structured around it. It would just be considered an acceptable consequence which is frightening.

I agree with you about the bees and we're not the only ones who suspect EMF smog as the main culprit.

How long has your landlady lived in that house?

If you could get a detector or simply dowse (much cheaper!) you might be able to find the source of the interference if that is the problem. Is the house near a transformer for example or a big recieving/emitting tower.

You may be suffering from Electrical Hypersensitivity, run those words through a search engine to find out more. Here's a link I just found, there may be better ones,
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C598401.html
one of the symptoms is tinnitus, also caused by other factors. I've had tinnitus since I caught mumps as a little kid. It's definitely got worse since being in this working enviroment awash with EMF's for the last 4 and half years.

[whitewolf]

Read this document for awider understanding.

http://www.bevolution.dk/pdf/Silentwaragainsthumanity.pdf

[whiterain]

I have a normal non wireless modem at home, it is still causing the detector to scream, not the helicopter noise but a nasty squealing, screech.

dont all electrics give off some smog just at different frequencies to the wireless?


also ive lately re realised that ive got an electricity sub station next door thats probably only <10 metres away from us when we sleep.

[princessofwands]

Read this document for awider understanding.

http://www.bevolution.dk/pdf/Silentwaragainsthumanity.pdf

Very good document, especially the chart showing the range of frequencies with Wi-fi at the top of the Beta range. A 'must-read'! It prints off nicely too, for showing to people.

Thank you Whitewolf. :D

[whiterain]

Very good document, especially the chart showing the range of frequencies with Wi-fi at the top of the Beta range. A 'must-read'! It prints off nicely too, for showing to people.

Thank you Whitewolf. :D

33hz and above! interesting

[dunadan]

Hi guys, just a quick suggestion have a look at www.bioprotectivesystems.com

Lots of interesting stuff on there, advice, papers etc. and products for disapating WiFi, Mobiles, Geopathic Stress etc. etc.

I dont have any business interests in the company - just a satisfied cutomer.

I still would like to know more about the radiation given off by so called 'lap-tops' even when being used with a 'wired-router'.

Only time will tell with all of this stuff.

My view; prevention is better than cure and forwarned is forarmed!

[always_rebel]

Re organite; it's a question I've had since I got the detector. Even though I have a big piece with crystals sitting on my modem, it it still emitting EMF's it's presence makes no difference to what the detector picks up. I wonder if this evidence of it's effectiveness, or lack of, or something else. Perhaps the EMF's are still there but not affecting us in the same way :confused:

rats :/

[anthony1965]

What do you think of ozone generators? I bought one a few months ago and haven't used it yet coz I'm hearing different things with respect to its safety.

I don't know anything about them so I really can't say.

[anthony1965]

Love all these articles, the baking soda one especially... read that some years ago and forgot all bout it! Doh! Busy quoting it all over the forum as we speak!:)

Yes it's brilliant! And I know someone who has terminal cancer who I hope will benefit from this article (and so will I and all those I share it with).

Brilliant commonsense and easy to understand and act upon. A potential life saver and quality of life enhancer.

[whitewolf]

Last night I spooked myself silly :D ;)

The detector has an earphone jack, so I plugged in the earphones and went round the house listening to stuff. The earphones makes it much more sensitive it appears, for the first time I could hear a hum coming off the wiring to EVERYTHING :eek::eek::eek: even my bedside lamp.
I have a sunrise alarmclock on the bedside table that is now in the furtherist corner of the room! it was making a nasty grating hum.
I have electric convector heaters as my heating, the thermostats are humming and buzzing away also the TV, hi-fi, DVD player. All plugs in sockets are humming, the wiring a little less. Before, I couldn't hear anything coming off the electricity pylons or main cabling but I reckon with the earphones I'll hear something now.

Not much I can do about the wiring in the house sadly, the realisation that the atmosphere in my home is actually filled with unatural EMF's is alarming and frankly a tad depressing. Depressing because it's all around us, we're so deeply immersed in toxicity.

All I could think to do at that moment was to use my conscious intent. I visualised a protective bubble around me, it should work just as well as any technology out there. Even orgonite, not dissing organite I make and gift alot myself, and it'll do until we learn how to consciously manage the energy around us. That got me thinking on another level.

A few years ago I was involved in space clearing work involving the nature spirits and angels. In co creating consciously, cos we do it unconsciously now, we can clear up our enviroment in a few months. I've seen poisoned polluted lakes become clean and life giving after contacting and co operating with the Devas to transmute the poisons. Humanity also needs to transmute itself on a practical level, the lake could only stay healthy if the sources of the pollution were managed responsibly.

In those years I did my veggie growing with the devas, I never had problems with the slugs and pigeons etc, I simply contacted the consciousness of the species and respectfully asked it not to eat my food. And they didn't, I was astonished ! and converted.

Read The Findhorn Garden if your interested.

We can overcome this disintergration.

[o_rourke]

Yes it's brilliant! And I know someone who has terminal cancer who I hope will benefit from this article (and so will I and all those I share it with).

Brilliant commonsense and easy to understand and act upon. A potential life saver and quality of life enhancer.

It's very interesting what you've said about baking soda, anthony.

My old gran who lived into her late eighties swore by the stuff and it was a cure-all. She came from a small village in Scotland and used this for all manner of things, including home-made poultices etc. She also swore by drinking a glass of soda based drinks first thing in the morning. I.e. Jaap's Liver salts or Andrew's liver salts, but failing that, it was a glass of water with half a teaspoon of Baking Soda.

Incidentally, I drink Soda Water. Could you tell me if that is based on Bicarbonate Soda and if it's good for you?

I've never really thought about it before.....I just like the taste. :o:)

BTW....this is a great thread. Thanks OP.

[anthony1965]

It's very interesting what you've said about baking soda, anthony.

My old gran who lived into her late eighties swore by the stuff and it was a cure-all. She came from a small village in Scotland and used this for all manner of things, including home-made poultices etc. She also swore by drinking a glass of soda based drinks first thing in the morning. I.e. Jaap's Liver salts or Andrew's liver salts, but failing that, it was a glass of water with half a teaspoon of Baking Soda.

Incidentally, I drink Soda Water. Could you tell me if that is based on Bicarbonate Soda and if it's good for you?

I've never really thought about it before.....I just like the taste. :o:)

BTW....this is a great thread. Thanks OP.

I've no idea about soda water.

My grandma apparently used to recommend baking soda as a teeth whitener (my mum told me recently).

A little village in Scotland! :)

Reminds me of this! The Scottish islanders had great teeth and bone structure... until the western sugary shit based food arrived!

The two brothers had different lifestyle. The one on the right ate the traditional diet. The one on the left had started on the sugary shit. The one on the right had good teeh, bones and was full of energy. The one on the left had tooth decay and was a lazy fecker by comparison.

http://www.chiefdom.net/images/brothersteeth.jpg

http://www.westonaprice.org/Nutrition-and-Physical-Degeneration-by-Weston-A.-Price.html

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
By Weston Price, DDS

More than sixty years ago, a Cleveland dentist named Weston A. Price decided to embark on a series of unique investigations that would engage his attention and energies for the next ten years. Possessed of an inquiring mind and a spiritual nature, Price was disturbed by what he found when he looked into the mouths of his patients. Rarely did an examination of an adult client reveal anything but rampant decay, often accompanied by serious problems elsewhere in the body such as arthritis, osteoporosis, diabetes, intestinal complaints and chronic fatigue. (They called it neurasthenia in Price's day.) But it was the dentition of younger patients that gave him most cause for concern. He observed that crowded, crooked teeth were becoming more and more common, along with what Price called "facial deformities"--overbites, narrowed faces, underdevelopment of the nose, lack of well-defined cheekbones and pinched nostrils. Such children invariably suffered from one or more complaints that sound all too familiar to mothers of the 1990s: frequent infections, allergies, anemia, asthma, poor vision, lack of coordination, fatigue and behavioral problems. Price did not believe that such "physical degeneration" was God's plan for mankind. He was rather inclined to believe that the creator intended physical perfection for all human beings, and that children should grow up free of ailments.

Price's bewilderment gave way to a unique idea. He would travel to various isolated parts of the earth where the inhabitants had no contact with "civilization" to study their health and physical development. His investigations took him to isolated Swiss villages and a windswept island off the coast of Scotland. He studied traditional Eskimos, Indian tribes in Canada and the Florida Everglades, Southsea islanders, Aborigines in Australia, Maoris in New Zealand, Peruvian and Amazonian Indians and tribesmen in Africa. These investigations occurred at a time when there still existed remote pockets of humanity untouched by modern inventions; but when one modern invention, the camera, allowed Price to make a permanent record of the people he studied. The photographs Price took, the descriptions of what he found and his startling conclusions are preserved in a book considered a masterpiece by many nutrition researchers who followed in Price's footsteps: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration. Yet this compendium of ancestral wisdom is all but unknown to today's medical community and modern parents.

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration is the kind of book that changes the way people view the world. No one can look at the handsome photographs of so-called primitive people--faces that are broad, well-formed and noble--without realizing that there is something very wrong with the development of modern children. In every isolated region he visited, Price found tribes or villages where virtually every individual exhibited genuine physical perfection. In such groups, tooth decay was rare and dental crowding and occlusions--the kind of problems that keep American orthodontists in yachts and vacation homes--non existent. Price took photograph after photograph of beautiful smiles, and noted that the natives were invariably cheerful and optimistic. Such people were characterized by "splendid physical development" and an almost complete absence of disease, even those living in physical environments that were extremely harsh.

The fact that "primitives" often exhibited a high degree of physical perfection and beautiful straight white teeth was not unknown to other investigators of the era. The accepted explanation was that these people were "racially pure" and that unfortunate changes in facial structure were due to "race mixing". Price found this theory unacceptable. Very often the groups he studied lived close to racially similar groups that had come in contact with traders or missionaries, and had abandoned their traditional diet for foodstuffs available in the newly established stores--sugar, refined grains, canned foods, pasteurized milk and devitalized fats and oils--what Price called the "displacing foods of modern commerce." In these peoples, he found rampant tooth decay, infectious illness and degenerative conditions. Children born to parents who had adopted the so-called civilized diet had crowded and crooked teeth, narrowed faces, deformities of bone structure and reduced immunity to disease. Price concluded that race had nothing to do with these changes. He noted that physical degeneration occurred in children of native parents who had adopted the white man's diet; while mixed race children whose parents had consumed traditional foods were born with wide handsome faces and straight teeth.

The diets of the healthy "primitives" Price studied were all very different: In the Swiss village where Price began his investigations, the inhabitants lived on rich dairy products--unpasteurized milk, butter, cream and cheese--dense rye bread, meat occasionally, bone broth soups and the few vegetables they could cultivate during the short summer months. The children never brushed their teeth--in fact their teeth were covered in green slime--but Price found that only about one percent of the teeth had any decay at all. The children went barefoot in frigid streams during weather that forced Dr. Price and his wife to wear heavy wool coats; nevertheless childhood illnesses were virtually nonexistent and there had never been a single case of TB in the village. Hearty Gallic fishermen living off the coast of Scotland consumed no dairy products. Fish formed the mainstay of the diet, along with oats made into porridge and oatcakes. Fishheads stuffed with oats and chopped fish liver was a traditional dish, and one considered very important for children. The Eskimo diet, composed largely of fish, fish roe and marine animals, including seal oil and blubber, allowed Eskimo mothers to produce one sturdy baby after another without suffering any health problems or tooth decay. Well-muscled hunter-gatherers in Canada, the Everglades, the Amazon, Australia and Africa consumed game animals, particularly the parts that civilized folk tend to avoid--organ meats, glands, blood, marrow and particularly the adrenal glands--and a variety of grains, tubers, vegetables and fruits that were available. African cattle-keeping tribes like the Masai consumed no plant foods at all--just meat, blood and milk. Southsea islanders and the Maori of New Zealand ate seafood of every sort--fish, shark, octopus, shellfish, sea worms--along with pork meat and fat, and a variety of plant foods including coconut, manioc and fruit. Whenever these isolated peoples could obtain sea foods they did so--even Indian tribes living high in the Andes. These groups put a high value on fish roe which was available in dried form in the most remote Andean villages. Insects were another common food, in all regions except the Arctic. The foods that allow people of every race and every climate to be healthy are whole natural foods--meat with its fat, organ meats, whole milk products, fish, insects, whole grains, tubers, vegetables and fruit--not newfangled concoctions made with white sugar, refined flour and rancid and chemically altered vegetable oils.

Price took samples of native foods home with him to Cleveland and studied them in his laboratory. He found that these diets contained at least four times the minerals as the American diet of his day. Price would undoubtedly find a greater discrepancy in the 1990s due to continual depletion of our soils through industrial farming practices. What's more, among traditional populations, grains and tubers were prepared in ways that increased vitamin content and made minerals more available--soaking, fermenting, sprouting and sour leavening.

It was when Price analyzed the fat soluble vitamins that he got a real surprise. The diets of healthy native groups contained at least ten times more vitamin A and vitamin D than the American diet of his day! These vitamins are found only in animal fats--butter, lard, egg yolks, fish oils and foods with fat-rich cellular membranes like liver and other organ meats, fish eggs and shell fish.

Price describes the fat soluble vitamins as "catalysts" or "activators" upon which the assimilation of all the other nutrients depended--protein, minerals and vitamins. In other words, without the dietary factors found in animal fats, all the other nutrients largely go to waste.

In Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, Price discusses another fat soluble vitamin that was a more powerful catalyst for nutrient absorption than vitamins A and D. He called it "Activator X". All the healthy groups Price studied had the X Factor in their diets. It could be found in certain special foods which these people considered sacred--cod liver oil, fish eggs, organ meats and the deep yellow Spring and Fall butter from cows eating rapidly growing green grass. When the snows melted and the cows could go up to the rich pastures above their village, the Swiss placed a bowl of such butter on the church altar and lit a wick in it. The Masai set fire to yellow fields so that new grass could grow for their cows. Hunter-gatherers always ate the organ meats of the game they killed--often raw. Liver was held to be sacred by many African tribes. The Eskimos and many Indian tribes put a very high value on fish eggs. Activator X is now believed to be the fat-soluble vitamin K2; read Chris Masterjohn's article to see how this 60-year mystery was finally solved.

[anthony1965]

Some more simple ionization tips:

Make sure that rooms are well aired! Even in Winter, open windows and doors first thing (where appropriate of course) and let some fresh air in. The fresh air will contain negative ions (more if your are in a healthy area, less if you are in a built up / electrosmog area).

Do some regular breathing exercises to get fresh air (negative ions) in your body. Breathing through the nose is recommended. Yoga and Tai chi are recommended, but just find time to go somewhere and breathe. Many of us breathe too little and too shallow. ** When possible find a place where there are lots of negative ions, either close to your negative ionizer or near a fast flowing stream, fountain, in nature somewhere, close to the sea, hills, mountains. All those places where the fresh air invigorates you. Even in a city you might have a favourite place!

Avoid synthetic materials that give off electrostatic (positively charged ions). Cotton is King! Cotton is neutral and will give off no static. Avoid nylons and other synthetic stuff. same goes for bedsheets, carpets, etc where possible. Imagine nylon socks on a synthetic carpet!

Your skin needs to breathe! Get your kit off when you can (and where appropriate) or wear loose fitting clothes. Again, avoid tight fitting synthetic crap. Did you ever notice how good it feels to take your socks off and let your feet breathe? Roll up your sleeves! Again, cotton is king, wool is fine too I think. Maybe some other natural materials as well.

Cold showers generate negative ions. If you don't feel brave enough to get under the water, then shower warm and at the end take a step back and breathe! Let the cold water run for a minute or two, turn it off and step into where the water was and breathe. It's nice!

Traditional hot stone saunas are great negative ion generators, but modern electric saunas might be generating positive ions so watch out. The traditional routines of hot and cold showers are great.

Get into nature when you can. Mountains and hills have less dust (aerosol particles) than built up aeas or lowland areas. Fast flowing streams, waterfalls are great, or the ocean, or any expanse of water. Every noticed that your hayfever disappears in these places? Forests are good too!

Asphalt, tower blocks, cars, buses, modern air conditioned buildings etc are bad! Traditional building materials could breathe. Modern stuff often can't... and we feel shit because of it. Open windows when you can or get negative ion generators if you can't.

In addition to commercial negative ion generators (air purifiers) you can try orgonite (especially for gifting pos ion generating mobile phone and tv towers). Salt rock crystals, little fountain thingies for the home, and plants! Get some plants in your home to improve the air.

Tourmaline is great! Stones, crystals, granules, powder! This has been used for generations in many cultures. Get a tourmaline stone as a pendant or to carry it around and give it a rub or a squeeze to start off the piezoelectric effect. Tourmaline and quartz both repsond to radiation, which is why they will work harder the worse the energy around you (and helps to explain why orgonite works, although there is more to it, invloving the resin and metal matrix).

Get exercise, be positive and reduce the acidity in your diet as described in the baking soda post.

Do all this and share with friends and family! :)

[o_rourke]

That's an excellent article, anthony.

It just goes to show that people who lived off the land, so to speak, were extremely healthy people and had minimum illness or disease.

The fact that they didn't brush their teeth and had no tooth decay, speaks volumes too.

[anthony1965]

That's an excellent article, anthony.

It just goes to show that people who lived off the land, so to speak, were extremely healthy people and had minimum illness or disease.

The fact that they didn't brush their teeth and had no tooth decay, speaks volumes too.

I recently spoke to someone from India. His grandfather is 86 and has perfect teeth. Yet the younger generations are now having the same tooth decay problems as in the west, despite the introduction of toothpaste, toothbrushes, dental floss (fluoride???)...

It's very obvious isn't it!

My problem now is implementing all this stuff after being raised on pear drops and ribena for the first ten years of my life! :o

I remember how my grandma, aunties etc. were always giving us sugary shite, with the best intentions of course, and during my childhood my mum switched from her own (excellent) baking and cooking to more and more "convenient" processed food. More often than not because my dad would buy the stuff. It was modern! It was progress! It was advertised on TV with catchy jingles!

It was shit! :(

Fortunately my wife is a traditional baker and cook. :)

And our children are keen to help out!

But when I'm left on my own.... :o

Well...

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Nobody's Perfect! :D

[o_rourke]

I recently spoke to someone from India. His grandfather is 86 and has perfect teeth. Yet the younger generations are now having the same tooth decay problems as in the west, despite the introduction of toothpaste, toothbrushes, dental floss (fluoride???)...

It's very obvious isn't it!

My problem now is implementing all this stuff after being raised on pear drops and ribena for the first ten years of my life! :o

I remember how my grandma, aunties etc. were always giving us sugary shite, with the best intentions of course, and during my childhood my mum switched from her own (excellent) baking and cooking to more and more "convenient" processed food. More often than not because my dad would buy the stuff. It was modern! It was progress! It was advertised on TV with catchy jingles!

It was shit! :(

Fortunately my wife is a traditional baker and cook. :)

And our children are keen to help out!

But when I'm left on my own.... :o

Well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLW5jzHsW7cNobody's Perfect! :D

Yep, unfortunately that is so true.

My son didn't like cow's milk when he was a baby and the doctor recommended that he stick to Ribena to get vitamins from it :eek:

His teeth ended up decalcified. :(

Thankfully, after years of ignorance on my part, I stopped all the trashy sugary stuff and banned sweets, Ribena and all sorts to try and rectify the problem.

But you are so right about ready made foods and how accustomed the majority of us are in buying them. Our lifestyles don't help either. Stressful working days with both parents having to work to make ends meet.....and lazy meals and lazy nights in front of the telly. That seems to be the status quo for the masses.

A radical change in lifestyle and education is the only way forward. But we have a 'major' problem in that too many are tuned into their TV's and MSM for their 'education'. They believe this stuff and that's where it seems a futile exercise to watch loved ones buying into it all. :(

[anthony1965]

Yep, unfortunately that is so true.

My son didn't like cow's milk when he was a baby and the doctor recommended that he stick to Ribena to get vitamins from it :eek:

His teeth ended up decalcified. :(

Thankfully, after years of ignorance on my part, I stopped all the trashy sugary stuff and banned sweets, Ribena and all sorts to try and rectify the problem.

But you are so right about ready made foods and how accustomed the majority of us are in buying them. Our lifestyles don't help either. Stressful working days with both parents having to work to make ends meet.....and lazy meals and lazy nights in front of the telly. That seems to be the status quo for the masses.

A radical change in lifestyle and education is the only way forward. But we have a 'major' problem in that too many are tuned into their TV's and MSM for their 'education'. They believe this stuff and that's where it seems a futile exercise to watch loved ones buying into it all. :(

We can lead by example! :)

[deca]

yes trying to limit your exposure is surly a good thing

if you have EMF from your niebours phone mast or other you might think about shielding paint .


From:

http://areyoutargeted.com/protecting-yourself/best-shielding-practices/

Last updated January 20, 2010. Get the latest updates to this document at AreYouTargeted.com. This document is freely redistributable, but please keep this paragraph intact.

I have gathered here the best available information on how to protect yourself from directed energy weapons in the privacy of your home. When I say “best”, I’m talking about cost effectiveness.

My position is that your first priority should be to protect your body from the long term damage done by microwave radiation. My advice – steps 1 through 4 – focuses on that aspect. Step 5 – currently incomplete – focuses on protecting against other types of attacks.

If you want to understand the basis for this advice, read “Factors relevant to shielding against energy weapons”, published on January 15th.
A step-by-step guide

Step 1. Paint your walls and ceiling with iron-laced paint.

(Note: you could also use graphite powder in place of iron, at a ratio of 6 parts paint to 1 part graphite. Graphite powder is available at most arts supply stores.)

Iron filings can function as a highly effective shielding material. You will need to mix them with paint to get them to bind to your walls. A ratio of 16 parts paint to one part iron filings works well. At this ratio, you will need two pounds of iron filings per gallon of paint.

I recommend mixing the iron filings with a type of acrylic paint that is transparent when it dries. It will sometimes be called “neutral base” or “deep base”; if you aren’t sure, ask. Because the paint is meant to be transparent, the iron filings will tint the paint a light gray. This is how you verify that your paint is well-mixed before you apply it.

Apply your iron-laced paint with a roller instead of a brush if at all possible. Two coats will probably be necessary.

For best results, you will also need to paint your doors – all sides of them. If this is out of the question, you can cover them with foil or Mylar in the next step.

A nice feature of iron-laced paint, as opposed to graphite-laced paint, is that the resulting coat of paint will be weakly attracted by magnets. It is easy to verify the integrity of an iron-based paint job by running a rare earth magnet over the surface.

You can get iron filings at about $5 per pound at Magically Magnetic – they’re marketed as “magnetic paint” additive, and the “1 gallon” container has 8 pounds of iron filings. There are many, many suppliers of iron filings, but they appear to have the best prices.

Step 2. Patch any holes in your coverage with metallized Mylar sheets or aluminum foil.

mylar-roll

Metallized Mylar by the roll. Notice how smooth the unrolled sheet is.
You shouldn’t use non-metallized Mylar sheets for this step, as they’ll provide no protection whatsoever.

You will need to cover your windows, and possibly cracks in your doorways, and maybe even go under your carpets (although I haven’t found this necessary).

You can simply tape the foil or Mylar to the walls or other objects, shiny side away from you. You may find that you have to patch multiple strips of foil or Mylar together to get the coverage you need. Your patch job should be thorough, as tiny cracks will let radiation through.

Metallized Mylar sheets come in much larger widths, which is good for patching, and they also look much neater than patched together strips of aluminum foil – they are easier to explain to visitors. On the other hand, the metal film on Mylar sheets is so thin that you can see through it in a well-lit area. Aluminum foil will offer more protection, and it is cheaper.

Metallized Mylar sheets are often used in grow rooms as a light/UV intensifier. You will be able to find them by the roll at hydroponics supply shops. For example, I found rolls online at Discount Hydroponics and New England Hydroponics. I’ve heard a report that you can get metallized Mylar blankets at Wal*Mart for $1 each.

Step 3. Ground your shielding.

receptacle

An electrical outlet. The bottom hole is the ground hole.
Run an insulated wire from your shielding surface to the ground hole of an electrical outlet. The metal part of the wire must touch the shielding surface, and also the inside of the ground hole.

This can be a very simple step if you’ve thoroughly painted your walls, and your windows are covered with a metal film that touches the walls; your entire living quarters will have a single shielding surface from an electrical point of view. In this case, you need only obtain a 3-6 inch wire, strip the ends, bend it, stick one end into a ground hole of an outlet, and let the other end dangle in such a way that it rests against the wall.

Step 4. To protect yourself from microwave attacks when you’re not at home, microwave-proof your clothes.

You will need to get clothes that you can apply screen-printer’s ink to. You’ll also need iron filings or graphite powder. For details, read my article on creating microwave-proof clothing.

Step 5 (optional). To protect yourself against heart racing and vibratory attacks while you sleep, shield the area around your bed with iron-coated plywood or Mylar.

If you’re wondering what this is about, check out my article on the nature of the vibratory attacks.

Currently, I am developing a set of plans for constructing an “anti-psychotronic cage”. Those plans should be finished shortly. In the meantime, this step is optional. If you are willing to undertake a construction project without plans on hand, read on.

My current notes on these plans indicate that you should be able to coat a sheet of Mylar with a thin layer of iron-fortified paint and it will be usable after drying out for a day. In “cheap psychotronic shielding”, I state you are trying to create the equivalent of a .004 inch thick layer of iron, so you want to use at least 1/2 tablespoon of iron filings per square foot.

My research indicates you may be able to get away with as little as a 2:1 paint:iron ratio. Keeping the amount of paint used low is important for keeping the costs down.

Because the psychotronic attacks can apparently come from any direction (except below you, in most cases) you will need to cover the area around and above your bedding. However, it does not appear that an airtight or “Faraday cage” enclosure is necessary.

Notes.

You can explain away your paint job simply by saying you like the color. Alternatively, you could say that you’re an electronics hobbyist and the paint job protects your equipment.

You can point out that the metallized Mylar or aluminum foil over your windows serves as an insulator and helps keep heating/cooling costs down.

Aluminum foil apparently provides little or no protection against psychotronic attacks.
you also can but pre made paint as well
http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/RF/Products_RF_Shielding_Paint_HSF54.htm
Electro-conductive coating, liquid water based EMF shielding paint for interior and exterior application

· Developed for protection of large areas from Electric Fields, Radio Frequency “RF” Radiation and Microwaves

· Offers excellent shielding qualities for protection against RF-radiation. Can also be used for protection from low-frequency Electric Fields if grounded

[deca]

some tips
http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/EMF_Safety_Tips.htm


Radio Frequency RF & Microwave Prevention Tips



Radio Frequency Waves (RF) and Microwave Radiation are produced by all wireless communication devices and cell phone transmission towers. The are invisible and exist almost everywhere. Current technology is now using pulsed digital signals which increase the risks of exposure. Obtaining an RF free sleeping area is important because we spend 1/3 of our life asleep. The goal is to reduce long term, low level exposure to Radio Frequency (RF) Radiation. Obtaining accurate exposure readings is very important. Some of our competitors’ meters do not measure pulsed digital signals. Our complete line of RF Meters will measure pulsed digital signals including the RF-Detector. Please visit our EMF Meter, RF Meter and Body Voltage Meter pages for Bau-Biologie approved testing equipment. See below for our suggestions on how to lower your RF exposure at home:



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Avoid Living near cell phone transmission towers or any other radio/TV transmitter.
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Have your sleeping area evaluated by a Bau-Biologist for Radio Frequency (RF) radiation from cell phone towers and all other wireless radiation sources. Bau-Biologie Exposure Standards indicate RF radiation should be below 1 μW/m2 (microWatts per square meter) and below 0.1 μW/m2 for digital pulsed radiation signals.
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If elevated RF Radiation is found, determine weather its source in internal or external to the building. If the source is external (local cell phone tower), installing RF shielding fabric curtains, a bed shielding canopies or RF reflective window foil is recommended. If the source is internal, find the source and turn it off (cordless phone, wireless router). Seek the professional advice of a trained Bau-Biologist for more protection solutions.
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Avoid the use of cordless telephones. Most new models (DECT) base stations constantly transmit RF radiation even when they are not in use.
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If a cordless phone is necessary, choose 900 MHz cordless phone before higher frequency phones. Most 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz phones base stations constantly broadcast where as the majority of 900 MHz phones do not. Also the 900 MHz cordless phones use an analogue signal where the 2.4 GHz and the 5.8 GHz phones use more biologically damaging pulsed digital signals.
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Avoid the use of a microwave oven. If using a microwave oven, leave the area. The RF will cover a large area (30-40 feet and more).
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Avoid eating or drinking microwaved food or water. Don’t feed microwaved food or milk to babies or young children.
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Avoid the use of wireless baby monitors. Use a hard wired intercom system.
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Avoid the use of an RF security system, use the hard wired one.
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Avoid the use wireless router internet sharing devices. Use a hard wired type. (Ethernet Cat 5 cables
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If required, use cellular telephones for emergency back-up. Use them with the SLT1 headset.
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Avoid speaking on a cell phone in the car without an external antenna. The RF waves will be reflected back at you from the metal chassis, doors and roof magnifying the radiation. Also, the cell phone has a hard time sending its signal out of the car because of the metal chassis, and increases its transmitting strength to compensate.
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Avoid the use of a cellular phone if pregnant.
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Do not let a child use a cellular phone.
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Minimize your exposure to medical and dental x-rays.


Home EMF and RF Prevention Tips

The sleeping area is particularly important because we send 1/3 of our life sleeping. The goal is to reduce long term, low level exposure to AC Electromagnetic Fields (EMF) and Radio Frequency (RF) Radiation. Obtaining accurate exposure measurements is also very important. Please visit our EMF Meter, RF Meter and Body Voltage Meter pages for Bau-Biologie approved testing equipment. See below for our suggestions on how to lower your EMF exposure at home:

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Sleep in a room that has been electromagnetically evaluated. Bau-Biologie Exposure Standards for sleeping areas indicate that Magnetic and Electric Fields should be as low as possible, preferably under 0.2 mG (milliGauss) or 200 nT (nanoTesla) for Magnetic Fields and below 1 V/m (Volt per Meter) for Electric Fields. Ideal Body Voltage readings should be below 10 mV (milliVolts).
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Shut off the electricity in your bedroom during sleeping hours. This can be accomplished manually by turning off the breakers or automatically with a demand switch. This will eliminate electric field exposure while sleeping. Seek the professional advise of a trained Bau-Biologist for protection solutions.
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Avoid placing a bed on a shared wall with a neighbouring apartment if in a townhouse or apartment building. Your neighbours may have electronic equipment or electrical appliances on the other side of the wall emitting high electromagnetic fields.
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Have your sleeping are evaluated for radio frequency (RF) radiation from cell phone towers, and all other wireless radiation sources. Bau-Biologie exposure standards indicate RF radiation should be below 1 μW/m2 (microWatts per square meter) and below 0.1 μW/m2 for digital pulsed radiation signals.
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If elevated Radio Frequency Radiation is found, determine weather its source in internal or external to the building. If the source is external (local cell phone tower), installing RF shielding fabric curtains, a bed shielding canopies or RF reflective window foil is recommended. If the source is internal, find the source and turn it off (cordless phone, wireless router). Seek the professional advice of a trained Bau-Biologist for protection solutions.
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Avoid the use of cordless telephones. Most new models (DECT) constantly transmit RF radiation even when they are not in use.
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Remove all electronic devices from all occupied bedrooms.
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Avoid the use of an electric blanket. The will produce high electric and magnetic fields.
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If possible, sleep in a bed that has no metal parts, such as innersprings or a metal frame.
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Avoid using metal head and foot boards because the electric fields will be enhanced.
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Keep metal way from the sleeping area, such as metal bookshelves, end tables or metal pole lamps.
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Use a battery operated alarm clock rather than an AC electric alarm clock.
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Avoid purchasing a home within 500 feet of high voltage power lines. This distance will vary according to the power of the lines. A magnetic and electric field strength measurement would determine the exact distance.
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Avoid running electric extension cords under chairs, beds and couches.
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If possible, maintain a distance of 10 feet from the television and other electronic devices and appliances.
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Avoid the use of fluorescent and halogen lights, use incandescent full spectrum lighting.
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Avoid the use of electric motors, such as an electric can opener, shaver or toothbrush. Rechargeable or battery operated toothbrushes and shavers are preferred to plug-in models.
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Consider replacing an ungrounded 2 wire lamp cord with a 3 wire shielded power cord to reduce electric fields. Your lamp may have to be customized in a specialty lighting store or by an electrician and meet UL and CSA approvals.
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Stand back 3 feet or more from operating motors such as juicers and blenders.
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Avoid the use of hand held hairdryers. If required, keep the motor and the cord as far from the body as possible.
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Avoid using the over head fan while in the bathroom. If it must run maintain a distance of 10 feet.
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If possible, maintain a distance of 10 feet from the heater coils when cooking with an electric stove or oven.
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If purchasing a computer monitor locally, screen it with a Magnetic Field Detector or gauss meter. The latest standards require that AC magnetic field be 1 mG (100 nanoTesla) or less one foot from the monitor.
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Don’t give an older computer to a child without first measuring the magnetic fields it produces.
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Avoid the use of a sewing machine during pregnancy or balancing a laptop on the abdomen.


Automobile EMF & RF Prevention Tips

Some of us spend a great deal of time in a car, therefore it is important to choose a vehicle that has low EMF and RF emissions. The goal is to reduce long term, low level exposure to Electromagnetic Fields (EMF) and Radio Frequency (RF) Radiation. Unfortunately little can be done with the automobile. There is also very little data recorded on this subject so each automobile would require a measurement to check its emissions. Obtaining accurate exposure readings is very important. Please visit our EMF Meter, RF Meter and Body Voltage Meter pages for Bau-Biologie approved testing equipment. See below for our suggestions on how to lower your EMF and RF exposure in automobiles:

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The gasoline-ignition engine has spark plugs to ignite the fuel-air mixture. The ignition (spark) system is a tremendous source of broad spectrum RF Radiation as well as Magnetic Fields.
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The car body is used as part of the electrical system, considerable electrical emissions exist inside an automobile.
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The alternator is a strong source of Magnetic Fields.
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The diesel engine with mechanical fuel injection has no spark plugs at all. An electric spark is not required therefore lower Magnetic Field emissions
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The car stereo is a large source of EMF, even when powered off.
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Keep distance form the audio speakers which emit large magnetic fields.
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The air conditioning and heating fan generate large magnetic fields.
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Most new cars have a satellite communication system and can transmit high levels of RF radiation.
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Avoid speaking on a cell phone in the car without an external antenna. The RF waves will be reflected back at you from the metal chassis, doors and roof magnifying the radiation. Also, the cell phone has a hard time sending its signal out of the car because of the metal chassis, and increases its transmitting strength to compensate.
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New hybrid vehicles will emit high electric and magnetic fields.


Office EMF Prevention Tips

Achieving a low AC EMF emission office environment is difficult because of the constant use of electronic equipment. The goal is to reduce long term, low level exposure to Electromagnetic Fields (EMF) and Radio Frequency (RF) Radiation. Obtaining accurate exposure measurements is also very important. Please visit our EMF Meter, RF Meter and Body Voltage Meter pages for Bau-Biologie approved testing equipment. See below for our suggestions on how to lower your EMF exposure in the office:

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Measure the Electric and Magnetic Fields that your monitor produces. LCD monitors are not always the best choice. Measuring with approved test equipment is the only way to know for sure. See our approved EMF Meters and Body Voltage Meter for test equipment suggestions. Seek the professional advice of a trained Bau-Biologist for more EMF protection solutions.
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Use Shielded AC Power Cords and power bars for all computer or electronic equipment.
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Plug your computer and electronic devices into a grounded 3-holed outlet.
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Use a radiation-reducing grounded glare guard on computer monitors to reduce EMF radiation.
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If possible use a telephone with a cord for the bulk of your calls.
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Only use a cellular phone for emergency back-up or with the SLT1 Headset.
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Beware of Magnetic and Electric Fields from personal computers, electric typewriters, calculators, desk lamps and measure their strength with an approved Electric and Magnetic Field detector.
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Use a manual pencil sharpener rather than an electric one.
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Maintain distance from the rear and sides of a neighbour’s computer monitor.
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Locate the buildings electric panels, transformers, etc. and do not sit near them.
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Keep wiring, surge protectors, power bars and extension cords 5 feet away from any body part.
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Maintain minimum distance of 10 feet from copiers, fax machines and other office equipment.
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Use a full-spectrum incandescent lamp (grounded if possible), rather than a fluorescent or halogen light if you have the option.
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If using a laptop, buy one with a 3-prong plug. Run it off the battery routinely. If it is not possible to purchase a 3-prong plug, ground the chassis of the laptop. This will eliminate the large electric field caused by the ungrounded laptop.
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If carrying a pager, cell phone, or any electronic device regularly rotate it around the body.
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Avoid congregating or sitting near the microwave oven when it is on. The RF radiation can infest a large area.
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Avoid work areas that use wireless networking and wireless phones if possible.


Electrical EMF Prevention Tips

A properly installed electrical system plays a key roll in the AC Electromagnetic Field (EMF) Pollution levels in a building. Proper grounding can significantly reduce Electric Fields. Neutral wire isolation can reduce unwanted Magnetic Fields thus eliminating Net Currents. It is important to reduce long term, low level exposure to Electric and Magnetic Fields. Obtaining accurate exposure readings is also very important. Please visit our EMF Meter, RF Meter and Body Voltage Meter pages for Bau-Biologie approved testing equipment. See below for our suggestions on how to lower your EMF exposure at home:

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Sleep in a room that has been electromagnetically evaluated. Bau-Biologie Exposure Standards for sleeping areas indicate that Magnetic and Electric Fields should be as low as possible, preferably under 0.2 mG (milliGauss) or 200 nT (nanoTesla) for Magnetic Fields and below 1 V/m (Volt per Meter) for Electric Fields. Ideal Body Voltage readings should be below 10 mV (milliVolts). Seek the professional advice of a trained Bau-Biologist.
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Shut off the electricity in your bedroom during sleeping hours. This can be accomplished manually by turning off the breakers or automatically with a Demand Switch. This will eliminate electric field exposure while sleeping.
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Avoid placing a bed on a shared wall with a neighbouring apartment if in a townhouse or apartment building. Your neighbours may have electronic equipment or electrical appliances on the other side of the wall.
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Remove all dimmer switches used in the house. They emit high magnetic fields and cause dirty electricity.
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Verify that all circuits in the house are properly grounded.
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Use 3 wire shielded cable (BX) for wiring a home. The metallic jacket shields Electric Fields.
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Plug 3-wire appliances into working 3-wire outlets.
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Locate the power panel at least 15 feet from living / sleeping areas.
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Locate hot water heater (electric) at least 10 feet from living/sleeping areas.
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Locate clothes dryer 14 feet from living/sleeping areas.
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Most new Ground Fault Interrupter (GFI)'s generate constant Magnetic Fields and dirty electricity.
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Install a non-metallic junction (Dielectric Union) where the metal water pipe enters the ground. (Just after the water meter) This will help prevent stray ground current from entering your home and infest the water pipes. StatCounter - Free Web Tracker and Counter

[deca]

http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/EMF_Health_Effects.htm

Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity EHS & Electrical Sensitivity Information

Technology is changing at a staggering pace. We are now exposed to forces and

energies that did not exist decades ago. Many new diseases and sicknesses have

developed since our parent’s generation including electrical hyper-sensitivity and new

types of cancer. Both may have links to long term, low level, exposure to electromagnetic fields - EMF and radio-frequency waves - RF. EMF consists of electric and magnetic fields and is

produced from live electrical wiring, electric appliances and electronic devices. RF waves are

produced by all wireless communication products.



Electric fields, magnetic fields and RF radiation are invisible yet exist everywhere. They are

detrimental to our long term health and it is necessary to reduce our long term exposure to them.

Safe Living Technologies specializes in electrical pollution detection and mitigation. We have the technology and instrumentation to detect and eliminate these unwanted fields.

Symptoms of Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity EHS & Electrical Sensitivity

Neurological: headaches, dizziness, nausea, difficulty concentrating, memory loss, irritability,

depression, anxiety, insomnia, fatigue, weakness, tremors, muscle spasms, numbness, tingling,

altered reflexes, muscle and joint paint, leg/foot pain, “Flu-like” symptoms, fever. More severe

reactions can include seizures, paralysis, psychosis and stroke.

Cardiac: palpitations, arrhythmias, pain or pressure in the chest, low or high blood pressure,

slow or fast heart rate, shortness of breath.

Respiratory: sinusitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, asthma.

Dermatological: skin rash, itching, burning, facial flushing.

Ophthalmologic: pain or burning in the eyes, pressure in/behind the eyes, deteriorating vision,

floaters, cataracts.

Others: digestive problems, abdominal pain, enlarged thyroid, testicular/ovarian pain, dryness of

lips, tongue, mouth, eyes, great thirst, dehydration, nosebleeds, internal bleeding, altered sugar

metabolism, immune abnormalities, redistribution of metals within the body, hair loss, pain in the

teeth, deteriorating fillings, impaired sense of smell, ringing in the ears.



Long term Effects

Adult cancer, tumors, childhood leukemia, breast cancer, DNA strand breakage, abnormal cell

division, nerve damage, MS, ALS, Alzheimer and Parkinson disease, brain damage, melatonin

reduction, miscarriages.

some idiots try and tell you these are signs of your awakening:rolleyes:

[princessofwands]

Deca - wow, what a lot of ideas there.....

Whitewolf - I was interested by your comment about working with the devas and I thought you might like this article which refers to 'orgoniting' by thought power.

http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/greywolffeelingforms15mar06.shtml

Have you found that EMFs come off an electrical object that is plugged in, but switched off at the wall. I'm thinking of my bedside lamps that I never use. Should I unplug them at the wall, as well as have them switched off?

Anthony - I read about those salt rock crystal lamps recently when you started talking about negative ions. It's important to get a decent sized one. A small one would do for your bedside table, for example but you would need a medium or large one to supply negative ions to a wider field, like a living room.

Why do cold water showers :eek: produce negative ions but (presumably) warm or hot ones don't, or produce less??

Other sources of EMF I thought of are:

Combi-boiler, if it comes with a RF box that sits on the wall downstairs but sends messages upstairs to the boiler to turn on-off when the temperature changes.

Electrically operated window blind, we got one of these mysteriously when we ordered 5 ordinary (manual) blinds for our Velux loft windows. There is a little box like a TV remote that you press and it makes the blind open and shut. I hope it's not emitting something all the time.

Same goes for your TV remote itself - does that emit constantly?

:eek:

[whitewolf]

Good info Deca, thanks for that :)

This site also has some shielding products, expensive though :eek:

http://www.emfields.org/screening/overview.asp

[deca]

Deca - wow, what a lot of ideas there.....

Whitewolf - I was interested by your comment about working with the devas and I thought you might like this article which refers to 'orgoniting' by thought power.

http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/greywolffeelingforms15mar06.shtml

Have you found that EMFs come off an electrical object that is plugged in, but switched off at the wall. I'm thinking of my bedside lamps that I never use. Should I unplug them at the wall, as well as have them switched off?

Anthony - I read about those salt rock crystal lamps recently when you started talking about negative ions. It's important to get a decent sized one. A small one would do for your bedside table, for example but you would need a medium or large one to supply negative ions to a wider field, like a living room.

Why do cold water showers :eek: produce negative ions but (presumably) warm or hot ones don't, or produce less??

Other sources of EMF I thought of are:

Combi-boiler, if it comes with a RF box that sits on the wall downstairs but sends messages upstairs to the boiler to turn on-off when the temperature changes.

Electrically operated window blind, we got one of these mysteriously when we ordered 5 ordinary (manual) blinds for our Velux loft windows. There is a little box like a TV remote that you press and it makes the blind open and shut. I hope it's not emitting something all the time.

Same goes for your TV remote itself - does that emit constantly?

:eek:

lamps don`t generally emit much EMF think the type bulb you have in them makes a difference , plus if they have dimer switch on them or other gizmo`s

remote controls are normal infra red and battery operated so not much danger their...most battery operated equipment tries to save on power..increase battery life so tend to power down....but depending on the its purpose ...if its some type of bluetooth,wifi,wireless RF sender/receiver etc.. then might do

[whitewolf]

Quote from Princessof wands;

Whitewolf - I was interested by your comment about working with the devas and I thought you might like this article which refers to 'orgoniting' by thought power.

http://www.educate-yourself.org/cn/greywolffeelingforms15mar06.shtml

Have you found that EMFs come off an electrical object that is plugged in, but switched off at the wall. I'm thinking of my bedside lamps that I never use. Should I unplug them at the wall, as well as have them switched off?


Oh thanks for that Princess, it was a connection I made this am, I haven't had head space to explore it yet. However the link doesn't work, I will be away from the computer for a bit but I'll try to find it myself unless you can re post it.

I shall go and test your question and get back to you. The wall sockets in Greece don't have switches but I suppose I could try a switched extension cable.

[princessofwands]

Thanks for testing, Whitewolf!

The link works for me. However, the article is called

Grey Wolf on Healing Thought Forms and if you put that into google it will come up. :)

[whiterain]

http://www.safelivingtechnologies.ca/EMF_Health_Effects.htm



some idiots try and tell you these are signs of your awakening:rolleyes:

they are if you awaken to the fact that you are being fucked with

[atredies]

I'm very suspicious of all forms or microwave radiation, and have avoided
using the mobile phones, wireless routers, Dect phones for the last 10 years.

Being educated in electronics helps me sort fact from fiction, and my first
rule is, use only wireless technology when it's really necessary, like in a emergency.
And I agree with most thing being said in this thread.

But consider this too before you get down the road of
OMG we all going to die.

"A nocebo (Latin for "I will harm") is something that should be
ineffective but which causes symptoms of ill health. A nocebo effect
is an ill effect caused by the suggestion or belief that something is
harmful."

"Japanese researchers tested 57 high school boys for their sensitivity
to allergens. The boys filled out questionnaires about past
experiences with plants, including lacquer trees, which can cause
itchy rashes much as poison oak and poison ivy do. Boys who reported
having severe reactions to the poisonous trees were blindfolded.
Researchers brushed one arm with leaves from a lacquer tree but told
the boys they were chestnut tree leaves. The scientists stroked the
other arm with chestnut tree leaves but said the foliage came from a
lacquer tree. Within minutes the arm the boys believed to have been
exposed to the poisonous tree began to react, turning red and
developing a bumpy, itchy rash. In most cases the arm that had contact
with the actual poison did not react."

http://www.skepdic.com/nocebo.html
Nocebo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A2709-2002Apr29?language=printer

A side note to think about, when seeing flashes with closed eyelids.
1. Cosmic background radiation and maybe something like this.:cool:

Brian Cox: What really goes on at the Large Hadron Collider - YouTube
at 4:25 he says 60 billions neutrinos from the sun passes though every inch
of our body's

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/predict.shtml
Another indicator of the level of solar activity is the
flux of radio emission from the Sun at a wavelength
of 10.7 cm (2.8 GHz frequency).
This flux has been measured daily since 1947.

I think I will build a Faraday cage out of a cardboard box and tin foil,
large enough to sit in, to "see" if I can feel any difference at all.:D

[whitewolf]

Thanks for testing, Whitewolf!

The link works for me. However, the article is called

Grey Wolf on Healing Thought Forms and if you put that into google it will come up. :)

Thanks for that Princess.

I tested the switched off cable - it stopped humming. Logical when you think about it. Always good to check though.

Atredies- I agree about the self induced afflictions, it's a basic law of life, we create what we focus on. If we fear something, it usually shows up in our life, eventually.
However, I think it has to be balanced with the fact that certain substances, aspartame for example, or enviromental toxins, EMF's for example WILL harm our health. Until we are self-realized beings capable of transmuting energy consciously we will be affected, more so probably when mixed with fear.

[whitewolf]

Anyone into organite gifting living near the Sussex Police headquarters?
or anywhere in the UK, or anyone with mobile.....read this;

http://www.ivanfraser.com/articles/conspiracies/mw_mindcontrol.html