Change the past (physically)?

[deicide]

Since time is an illusion and everything is actually happening at once, all you need to do is focus on the spot in the great circle of life where you want to be and project yourself there. An astral travelling would works?

[tortle]

Since time is an illusion and everything is actually happening at once, all you need to do is focus on the spot in the great circle of life where you want to be and project yourself there. An astral travelling would works?

Usually with Astral travelling you have to return to your body, it's kind of like having a one day ticket to a higher dimension.

On the other hand, if you manage to fully Ascend to the 5th dimension you can pretty much do anything that your heart desires instantly. You can create your own realities and experiences at will.

The 4th dimension is a bit dodgy perhaps, there are baddies there, but they're mostly stuck on the lower 4th. The 5th dimension is out of reach for the baddies, but not for us. Why? Because you have to be totally in your heart to enter the 5th dimension and being in your heart is incompatible with the negative agendas/mindsets of the baddies. That's why they want to control us, and keep us here, because once we ascend out of here they will just be left with themselves.

One could argue that some humans also have negative agendas/mindsets, but at least humans have the capacity to change their ways and become compassionate and good. This is thanks to our mammalian nature and physiology. The negative ETs on the other hand are mostly reptillian or insectoid in nature which lacks the capacity for compassion, and is mostly focused on control and hunting ...etc I think the greys realized this, and that's why they create hybrids with humans, because the greys want enough compassion in their dna to be able to ascend. (They want to become good guys I guess, but they're probably going about it the wrong way). There's no shortcuts to higher dimensions. (white powder gold etc... That only made things worse for the Dracs... they're mostly gold powder addicts)

The only real way to fully ascend is through your heart.

Astral travelling also requires your heart.

[deicide]

I know that an astral travel is just a temporl stuff and you have to return ti your body. But what about transfer your consciousness to 'other you' in the past?. Take control of your own body in some moment that you want and make changes?.

[pela]

If we could do this, think of the knock on effect it may have, it may cancel out some of things you may not want to change, interesting though. :)

[deicide]

If we could do this, think of the knock on effect it may have, it may cancel out some of things you may not want to change, interesting though. :)

That's what I really want to know. If could be possible. Not the effects (yet). I want to know if exist a way to change the past not only via astral travel, but other ways. And I would like to read more opinions.

Thanks.

[montesmobileseramus]

The past gets changed constantly. Teachers' unions and governments are the usual culprits.

All they have to do is begin propagating one particular version of history, and all of a sudden "that's what happened."

[deicide]

How past gets changed constantly? How can that be?.

I don't understood that point.

[ufochick]

I know that an astral travel is just a temporl stuff and you have to return ti your body. But what about transfer your consciousness to 'other you' in the past?. Take control of your own body in some moment that you want and make changes?.

Not possible because we are already inhabiting it at that point. Can the timeline be changed? yes I believe so but with technology, but I have no proof it's just an opinion.. I have noticed what appear to be timeline changes in the past but they are not provable...

[montesmobileseramus]

How past gets changed constantly? How can that be?.

I don't understood that point.

If you convince enough people to believe in a particular version of events, it becomes "real".

[tusme]

Question is, what is "the past"...!?

A Physical (energy) being, due to it's physical properties and this Physical dimension properties/conditions, ie, free-will, relativity, duality, gravity, etc, etc, can only exist in the NOW, between the periods of birth and death...

Thus, it is impossible to physically "change the past"...

That said, a physical (energy) being's true SOURCE is Spirit/Truth energy...which, imho, Infinitely possesses the capability to influence the Past, NOW and indeed, the Future, perfectly...but, only based on Truth...

For example, if a Physical (energy) being is the subject of some really bad negative energy (who's origins perhaps would seem to be from another generation), then, in such a case, the Physical energy being (due to it's physical, and this Physical dimension's properties/conditions) cannot neutralise such negative energy...however, the Spirit/Truth being, because it is not subject to this Physical dimension's properties/conditions, could neutralise such negative energy, infinitely within any existence of Spirit or Physical dimension Time...

Btw, negative energy too, is spirit energy, therefore does have the capability to exist/vibrate through time dimensions/frequencies...though, it (negative energy), can ONLY do that from within this Physical dimension...

Hope that made sense...!? :)

[j35p3r4d0]

there is no such thing as 'changing' the past, only influencing it's present from the future present (the actual present). There is no deviation involved.

Nonlinear is a word that gets thrown around a lot, but in this sense it's necessary to understand how this occurs.

Say you projected mentally to a past time, and you then affected upon its workings, you would be forming part of what can be referred to as the forward pull of time.

meaning that the necessity that there is a future alters what happens in the present, and so that which happens in the present occurs due to and because of what happened in the past, and vice versa.

that is to say: that which happens now only occurs because of what will be in future.

and the same can be said of the past and the present.

it's a tad of a back-flip, but not impossible.

[kassondra8]

Since time is an illusion and everything is actually happening at once, all you need to do is focus on the spot in the great circle of life where you want to be and project yourself there. An astral travelling would works?

I guess my question would be, why change the past in the first place? Wouldn't the ultimate goal be to change the present anyways? And seeing as how the past is just an idea in your mind right NOW, couldn't you simply change the concept? If there is no real past, and all possibility is happening at once, then simply having the concept makes it possible and, therefore, already happening, does it not?

Also, I feel everything that we experience follows a set course (set by higher levels of our own awareness), all designed to move our individual and collective awareness out of density in a certain manner and rate. We provide ourselves with all of the experiences necessary to do this. I think it would be much more productive to try to understand "the past" and why it happened, why it was necessary for it to happen, rather than putting energy into trying to alter it.

[deicide]

I guess my question would be, why change the past in the first place? Wouldn't the ultimate goal be to change the present anyways? And seeing as how the past is just an idea in your mind right NOW, couldn't you simply change the concept? If there is no real past, and all possibility is happening at once, then simply having the concept makes it possible and, therefore, already happening, does it not?

Also, I feel everything that we experience follows a set course (set by higher levels of our own awareness), all designed to move our individual and collective awareness out of density in a certain manner and rate. We provide ourselves with all of the experiences necessary to do this. I think it would be much more productive to try to understand "the past" and why it happened, why it was necessary for it to happen, rather than putting energy into trying to alter it.

Actually this question is just to know if would be possible change the past. It came to my mind when I read some webs about this.

[sh3lly]

Yes, time is an illusion. Linear time does not exist outside the physical body. However, the whole point of us coming here and inhabiting physical bodies is to experience linear time and everything else that goes along with it (polarities, etc.). Keep this in mind and just enjoy the experience of being who you are and where you are right now. That's my view at least.

[deicide]

How Astral Time Travel works is like focusing a memory. It is a practice that should be done very carefully. By the theory time is like stream, it flows down but memory with the aid of astral projection can go back to certain times in that stream and look at a memory. In a way it is like watching your past self. It can help overcome past traumas, remember blocked out memories and move on in some cases. Whether you can contact yourself back then and give yourself information that i am unsure and most describe it like a viewing, not as a way of changing the past. When you think about it, if one could change the past it could have some major repercussions.. Be careful..

http://www.occultblogger.com/astral-projection-and-time-travel/

This could mean that it is possible to change the past using an astral projection.

[consciousness]

Since time is an illusion and everything is actually happening at once, all you need to do is focus on the spot in the great circle of life where you want to be and project yourself there. An astral travelling would works?

Great post. Thanks for the insight and reminder. :)