British Alcohol May Double In Price:

[wakeup2nwo]

The British government is trying to clamp down on the countrys binge drinking problem just five years after they gave the go-ahead for 24 hour drinking licenses. But critics say responsible drinkers on low incomes would be hit the hardest by the new restrictions.

Britain declares war on binge drinking: Alcohol Prices May Dibble - YouTube

[passing]

The British government is trying to clamp down on the countrys binge drinking problem just five years after they gave the go-ahead for 24 hour drinking licenses. But critics say responsible drinkers on low incomes would be hit the hardest by the new restrictions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71Btd3MZ2U

I'm unable to watch the video - who says the price will double?

Thanks.

[wakeup2nwo]

I'm unable to watch the video - who says the price will double?

Thanks.

The RT reporter says the price MAY double! why carnt you view it?

[passing]

The RT reporter says the price MAY double! why carnt you view it?

Because I'm at work (ssshhhh!) ;)

If you tell me what RT stands for, you'll have answered my question.

Thanks again.

[rydeon]

The proposed booze laws being considered by parliament via a set-minimum price.

[wakeup2nwo]

Because I'm at work (ssshhhh!) ;)

If you tell me what RT stands for, you'll have answered my question.

Thanks again.

Sorry! Russia Today news channel;)

you might find the story to read here http://rt.com/

[thedefender]

$4 something dollars for a 4pac. In NYC a 4pac is like $10. A 6pac of bottled beer is $12-14.

[gonzo75]

Interesting news. obviously tptb have their own agenda for this price hike, but i think that it has a 'silver lining' for the so called 'lower' and 'working' classes who suffer disproportionately from alchol related disease and illnesses.
This particular drug has caused massive social problems for hundreds of years, and will continue to do so while people buy into the culture of excess.
i'm not AGAINST alcohol, but i am pro education, where its far reaching effects on human culture are concerned.

[cpfc12]

I can see the pros and cons
another way of limiting our freedom of choice
but then again may mean less drunk cunts in town centres on friday nights giving aggro

[the apprentice]

When they say the price will double they really mean the tax will double, if one goes twice the price the rest will follow tobacco, wine, home brew the lot, anyone remember double diamond larger back in the 70's anyone.

We are both T totallers so they can put it up as much as they like, trebble it or higher will only bring more profit to the government at the cost of decent pubs which don't have the sports channel blasting, some of the bars around here you get thrown out of if your over 15 :D.

[oioioi]

And weed sales will rocket.

[passing]

Pros and cons?

Wouldn't it just be a tax on the poor?

[bones]

alcohol is sumthing they cannot control as its easy to produce at home...

could be a black market profit surge ... he he ill take advantage of that.

[hey_jude]

British Alcohol May Double In Price!

Good and good riddance to piss-head wife-beating drunken fools!

I'm not bitter :D

I'm pro weed!

[mr stoppitall]

Beer in germany is cheaper than water, I kid you not.

[passing]

I'm all in favour of the weed, but they're not talking about overpricing booze as part of a drive to legalise that, are they?

[phildee3]

They're talking about doubling supermarket booze prices to curb binge drinking in bars.

Figure that one out!

[lynfowars]

Booze is like the X-Factor, a total mind-numbing distraction the people lap-up instead of addressing the collapse of freedom around the world.

Sooner folk go dry for a while and smell the roses, the better

[slaneysider]

Alchohol related problems and violence will never be eradicated!
The only ones that are profitin out of it are the likes of (Diageo)
and pubs and night clubs they couldn care less about peoples health
or mental wellbeing considering alchohol is classed as a depressant
they dont give a shit there is too much money to be made the same with the
government they dont want people to stop drinkin they are reaping the rewards with vat and excise duty on spirits and alchohol!
But at the end of the day it is costing them dearly go to any police
station or a + e ward on your average sat. night and see whats happening
the doctors and nurses are in fear working, its just gone past a joke
the pubs and nightclubs should be held responsible for this situation
empytyin thousands of people who are in a drunken stupor onto the
streets at closing time , its just asking for trouble!

[kanz]

They're talking about doubling supermarket booze prices to curb binge drinking in bars.

Figure that one out!

Its so obviouse :rolleyes:

:p

[phildee3]

Its so obviouse :rolleyes:

:p

To me...

it's obvious.

They want us to stop drinking at home and add to the problem in the towns.

It's clearly a manufactured problem, but why?
Where is it headed?

[beldazar]

Interesting news. obviously tptb have their own agenda for this price hike, but i think that it has a 'silver lining' for the so called 'lower' and 'working' classes who suffer disproportionately from alchol related disease and illnesses.
This particular drug has caused massive social problems for hundreds of years, and will continue to do so while people buy into the culture of excess.
i'm not AGAINST alcohol, but i am pro education, where its far reaching effects on human culture are concerned.

Well unfortunately it doesn't work that way. If someone is an alcoholic they will do anything for a drink. More crime, more stress on families etc..

It may prevent people from starting in the first place but then they saw to that by introducing alcopops :mad:

This is what they keep doing, dish it all out then tighten laws, increase prices on it, like smoking.

[unusual_suspect]

What I find frustrating is that surely it is our right to consume too much alchohol if we so choose, I pay taxes, if I want to drink, smoke, eat junk food etc it is up to me.

I am sick of this nanny state and quite frankly I can understand why some people choose to drink themselves in to a stupor, some people have pretty crap and miserable lives and this is the way they choose to deal with it. They are adults and it is really their responsiblity - end of as far as I'm concerned.

[gonzo75]

Well unfortunately it doesn't work that way. If someone is an alcoholic they will do anything for a drink. More crime, more stress on families etc..

It may prevent people from starting in the first place but then they saw to that by introducing alcopops :mad:

This is what they keep doing, dish it all out then tighten laws, increase prices on it, like smoking.

I know what your saying beldazar. What i was trying to illustrate is that its the culture that needs addressing, as opposed to the availability of ale.
The alcohol production industry knows full well the risks involved, and yet they are allowed to market their products unhindered by a more common sense approach to drinking. All i am saying is that it would be hugely beneficial if the price increase created a generational stop gap, whereby people decreased their intake, without taking away their freedom of choice.
Utopian, i know, but i'm just thinking out loud here.

[rebelrobot]

What I find frustrating is that surely it is our right to consume too much alchohol if we so choose, I pay taxes, if I want to drink, smoke, eat junk food etc it is up to me.

I am sick of this nanny state and quite frankly I can understand why some people choose to drink themselves in to a stupor, some people have pretty crap and miserable lives and this is the way they choose to deal with it. They are adults and it is really their responsiblity - end of as far as I'm concerned.

I'm with you on this one.

And anyone who has experience of dealing with an alcoholic will know that they will carry on drinking , regardless of the price. They'll just cut down on other things instead ( decent food , paying the bills etc. ). Booze will always be the number 1 priority .

[unusual_suspect]

I'm with you on this one.

And anyone who has experience of dealing with an alcoholic will know that they will carry on drinking , regardless of the price. They'll just cut down on other things instead ( decent food , paying the bills etc. ). Booze will always be the number 1 priority .

I know what you mean, I have had direct experience of alcholics too and how they affect others. It is sad when families are involved, but seriously, people don't change unless they are good and ready. Besides, alcholism/addiction is a symptom of a deeper sickness of the spirit.

[lewi]

Double !? ... It should be banned !! :eek:

[guuna]

Good oppurtunity for everone to either stop drinking or to cut back their booze intake (me included)

fewer drunk idiots turning town centres into no-go areas on Friday and Saturday nights.

personally I think that the ptb want people to drink, it dumbs them down and makes them more compliant.

[subl1minal]

Everyone needs to stop drinking as much as they do anyway.

[bones]

Everyone needs to stop drinking as much as they do anyway.


whys that?



ive never been arrested, caused a fight, had a drunken fight never been to hospital drinking related , i dont take any medication for drinking at all.

im 33 been drinking since i was 15 so why should i cut down?

not a digg just interested!

in the late 80s the government gave the powers to councils backed by the local licencing officer to open licenced premisis when ever they wanted....

this led to the bar strips we see today 'huge venues covering hole streets just out for getting ppl pissed up... the governement now want us to stop drinking by upping unit costs? sounds like problem reaction solution, the think tanks who devised this situation new exactly what they were doing and know what outcome it has lead too.

dont get suckerd in to the propoganda the ptb speil out daily....

if they unit cost goes up ppl will steal it more, hence more robberies and muggings.... the black market of booze will surge and i will defo be the one to cash in on it... ppl will pay 3 quid a wine from me not the 10 quid in the shops...

its all set up ppl ....

[foobar]

People drink too much for many reasons. Here are the two main ones:-

i) They have a biological predisposition to it because they have more recent hunter-gatherer ancestry than average. This means they don't process hi-GI carbohydrates so well, are more likely to binge on them and get overweight, and are more likely to have their brain-functioning impaired by quick-absorption carbs like alcohol. This is why previously wise people like Australian aborigines, certain African tribes and American natives were so quickly subdued by the effect of booze on their culture. It's got nothing to do with being 'less intelligent' or 'less disciplined', it's just that grains and fermented grain/fruit foods are much more recent additions to their diet, and their bodies haven't had a chance to adapt to them yet.

ii) They aren't biologically vulnerable as described in point i), but they are understandably miserable in our modern robotic, hierarchial society, so they treat booze as a psychological pain killer. This accounts for a substantial portion of alcoholism too.

New Labour have done a weird and evil thing here. They've made the source of people's pain available almost 24-7, and then followed it up with a campaign to make those most vulnerable feel dirty about it. It's a mind-fuck.

All our political class are doing is trying to create a sense of inevitability that we'll all drink too much in some chain-pub, that it's our own fault, and we shouldn't complain about the taxes involved. That's just how junk food works too, btw.

Reality is, we all tolerate different 'fun drugs' differently, and the best counter balance on natural obsessive tendencies is being forced to make/grow it yourself. If we all drank home-brew and/or smoked homegrown, were allowed to share/trade it with friends as we saw fit but banned from advertising it on street-signs or in papers, this would not be an issue.

[entrangermercenary]

What I find frustrating is that surely it is our right to consume too much alchohol if we so choose, I pay taxes, if I want to drink, smoke, eat junk food etc it is up to me.

I am sick of this nanny state and quite frankly I can understand why some people choose to drink themselves in to a stupor, some people have pretty crap and miserable lives and this is the way they choose to deal with it. They are adults and it is really their responsiblity - end of as far as I'm concerned.

Yep well said, If I remember rightly it makes people spew up in baths :eek: :)

[passing]

whys that?



ive never been arrested, caused a fight, had a drunken fight never been to hospital drinking related , i dont take any medication for drinking at all.

im 33 been drinking since i was 15 so why should i cut down?

not a digg just interested!

in the late 80s the government gave the powers to councils backed by the local licencing officer to open licenced premisis when ever they wanted....

this led to the bar strips we see today 'huge venues covering hole streets just out for getting ppl pissed up... the governement now want us to stop drinking by upping unit costs? sounds like problem reaction solution, the think tanks who devised this situation new exactly what they were doing and know what outcome it has lead too.

dont get suckerd in to the propoganda the ptb speil out daily....

if they unit cost goes up ppl will steal it more, hence more robberies and muggings.... the black market of booze will surge and i will defo be the one to cash in on it... ppl will pay 3 quid a wine from me not the 10 quid in the shops...

its all set up ppl ....

Good post.

...

Overpricing means the rich can still do what they want... good luck to (most of) them, but it's unfair!

[the apprentice]

This is one aspect of life we need to go back over and bring back the good old pub and snug, and stop supermarkets and off licences from selling the stuff, back to how it was supposed to be, and let good old common scense prevail.

[unusual_suspect]

Yep well said, If I remember rightly it makes people spew up in baths :eek: :)

Yes, this is true, but only if a person is a complete lightweight and she can't handle her ale :o

[wakeup2nwo]

This is one aspect of life we need to go back over and bring back the good old pub and snug, and stop supermarkets and off licences from selling the stuff, back to how it was supposed to be, and let good old common scense prevail.

i vote for getting rid of the supermarkets all together and going back to mom and pops stores..:)

[passing]

This is one aspect of life we need to go back over and bring back the good old pub and snug

Sounds good to me!

[from beyond]

time to rediscover how my grandfather used to make moonshine-

[phildee3]

T

his is one aspect of life we need to go back over and bring back the good old pub and snug,



If only!!

tptb ain't gonna let it happen though.
We're gonna have to go back even further - to the good ol' shebeen.
Make yer own liquor, set aside a room in yer house, and invite folks over.

[phildee3]

time to rediscover how my grandfather used to make moonshine-

I don't know if one of these would work for liquor.
I don't see why not.
http://www.juiceland.co.uk/item--Fresh-and-Pure-Water-Distiller--FRESHNPURE.html

[from beyond]

I don't know if one of these would work for liquor.
I don't see why not.
http://www.juiceland.co.uk/item--Fresh-and-Pure-Water-Distiller--FRESHNPURE.html

damn...i wish i had my books and took notes from gramps!I do know you can make it from acorns, elderberry,honey and probably from other things.....i will attempt to do so hopefully this year.As for pubs.....why not just have a gathering out in the woods around a nice fire with your home brew, a little food, and maybe some live music.....I would be up for that anytime!

[phildee3]

damn...i wish i had my books and took notes from gramps!I do know you can make it from acorns, elderberry,honey and probably from other things.....



Acorns??
That's a new one to me!
Yum!!!

You don't need Gramps' notes.
That's the beauty of internet - it's all there.
Do a bit of searching.
You can make wine from just about anything.
Distilled once = schnapps.
Twice = liquor.
Three times = wheeeee!!!!

[from beyond]

Acorns??
That's a new one to me!
Yum!!!

You don't need Gramps' notes.
That's the beauty of internet - it's all there.
Do a bit of searching.
You can make wine from just about anything.
Distilled once = schnapps.
Twice = liquor.
Three times = wheeeee!!!!

yes you are right...need to get busy researching!Also....I meant to say Oak leaves-not acorns..lol!I have been reading allot about what is edible on the oak tree lately-acorns are on my mind.So if we all have a go a making our own....we shall have to meet up for a tasting!

[jhado]

My dad could make booze out of anything, nettles, beetroot, parsnips, spud-peelings, berries.

Made his own rum too.

[from beyond]

My dad could make booze out of anything, nettles, beetroot, parsnips, spud-peelings, berries.

Made his own rum too.

I would love to do that!Do you make your own?

[phildee3]

I would love to do that!



First -
learn how to use a search engine. :rolleyes:

http://www.homewinemaking.co.uk/

[from beyond]

First -
learn how to use a search engine. :rolleyes:

http://www.homewinemaking.co.uk/

I do know how...but making moonshine isnt really at the top of my list.....i will though, when i have a little time.

[phildee3]

...when i have a little time.



We all have time.
It's just a matter of priorities.

[from beyond]

We all have time.
It's just a matter of priorities.

true....I dont drink much anyway, but I would rather make my own, then pay out the nose.I will look into it, and gather info.Thanks for the link also!

[jhado]

My dad's stuff was dangerous though, very strong.

Mind you, I was only 4yrs old at the time.

[Ian2day]

I'm with you on this one.

And anyone who has experience of dealing with an alcoholic will know that they will carry on drinking , regardless of the price. They'll just cut down on other things instead ( decent food , paying the bills etc. ). Booze will always be the number 1 priority .


Maybe it will mean that they experience a short term health collapse at a younger age, when they are better able to recover. Instead of being able to manage financially for years to hide an addiction and damage their body for good. Maybe a short sharp shock to a farely young body, will enable some to finally kick it for good. Before it does any irreversable long term damage to their health. Of course this is just viewing an addiction from one angle and not taking into account other contributy factors.

[littlegreenman]

My dad's stuff was dangerous though, very strong.

Mind you, I was only 4yrs old at the time.

Lol, yeah, home wine kits are deadly too. I found my dads homebrew blackberry wine in his shed when I was 12 and thought it was pop, big mistake, lol.

[picha]

The British government is trying to clamp down on the countrys binge drinking problem just five years after they gave the go-ahead for 24 hour drinking licenses. But critics say responsible drinkers on low incomes would be hit the hardest by the new restrictions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71Btd3MZ2U

Booze is straight from the pits of hell. I am convinced its so freely available because its one of the tools they use to turn people into sheeple. I stopped drinking a while back now and its one of the best things I ever did.

[bones]

Booze is straight from the pits of hell. I am convinced its so freely available because its one of the tools they use to turn people into sheeple. I stopped drinking a while back now and its one of the best things I ever did.


interesting theory!!

[lextorite]

I can see the pros and cons
another way of limiting our freedom of choice
but then again may mean less drunk cunts in town centres on friday nights giving aggro

And hopefully more ex-drunk sheeple will wake up.

http://images.clipartof.com/small/4578-Anthropomorphic-Sheep-Drinking-Beer-Together-In-A-Bar-Clipart.jpg

[phildee3]

Booze is straight from the pits of hell.



Rubbish.

It's a natural, agricultural and cultural development.
Medicinal, promotes good cheer, aids digestion, sociability, etc.
when used properly and not abused.

Anything is bad when abused.

[lextorite]

Rubbish.

It's a natural, agricultural and cultural development.
Medicinal, promotes good cheer, aids digestion, sociability, etc.
when used properly and not abused.

Anything is bad when abused.

Chronic alcohol abuse disrupts the proteins that keep fluids out of the lung, lowers a protective antioxidant, disrupts immune defenses and can lead to a condition known as 'alcoholic lung,' according to research to be presented at the conference, "Physiological Genomics and Proteomics of Lung Disease." The findings give insight into how excessive drinking can harm the molecular life of the lung and lead to serious illness, including pneumonia and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).

The study "Chronic alcohol ingestion renders the lung epithelium susceptible to acute injury by alteration in granulocyte-macrophage colony-stimulating factor signaling and alveolar epithelial permeability," was carried out by David Guidot, Pratibha Joshi, Jesse Roman, Lou Ann Brown and Michael Koval of Emory University in Atlanta. Guidot and Joshi are also associated with the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Atlanta.

"We're trying to understand what's happening with the alcoholic lung at the molecular level," said Koval, who presented the findings at The American Physiological Society lung disease conference on Nov. 2-5 in Fort Lauderdale.

Beyond the liver

Although chronic alcohol abuse is closely associated with liver disease, the condition affects many of the body's organs. In recent years, researchers have turned their attention to the 'alcoholic lung.'

Alcoholics are more susceptible to pneumonia and more than twice as likely to develop ARDS compared to non-alcoholics, Koval said. The alcoholic lung has been found to have lower levels of glutathione, an antioxidant that helps protect the lung from oxidative stress.

The Emory research team has found that alcohol disrupts claudins, a family of proteins that helps maintain a tight air-fluid barrier. This barrier allows air into the lung, while keeping blood and other potentially smothering fluids out.

When the claudin proteins are disrupted, the lung leaks more, the researchers have found. The lung can usually pump out this excess fluid, but when the lung suffers an injury or infection it is unable to handle the greater volume, Koval explained. And that's when pneumonia or ARDS may develop.

The researchers also previously found that the alcoholic lung has fewer granulocyte-macrophage colony-stimulating factor (GM-CSF) receptors and a dampened response to signaling by GM-CSF in the epithelial cells, which form the lining inside the lung. GM-CSF is a hormone that plays a role in immunity within the lung.

The researchers keyed into GM-CSF after a clinical study found that GM-CSF treatment appeared to decrease acute lung injury in patients with septic shock. They have found that lung epithelial cells depend on GM-CSF signaling to maintain the tight barrier that is critical for gas exchange. They have also found that the air-fluid barrier is enhanced when the alcoholic lung is treated with GM-CSF.

GM-CSF connection strengthened

With these findings in mind, the researchers fed rats an alcohol-containing liquid diet for six weeks to mimic chronic alcohol abuse. They then applied GM-CSF to epithelial cells impaired by the rats' alcohol ingestion. They found that GM-CSF restores claudin protein function and the cells' air-fluid barrier function improved. These findings complement their recently published study showing that this same GM-CSF treatment restores immune function in alcohol-fed rats.

"These findings suggest that alcohol abuse dampens GM-CSF signaling, which, in turn, contributes to the alcoholic lung phenotype and renders the lung susceptible to edematous injury," the authors wrote. Treating lung epithelial cells with GM-CSF can reverse the deleterious effects of alcohol, the authors concluded. "GM-CSF treatment, in part by restoring tight junction protein assembly, may decrease the risk of acute lung injury in susceptible patients."

These results are sufficiently intriguing that a clinical study in which ARDS patients are being treated with GM-CSF is now taking place, Koval said. An important next step is to understand how different elements of the lung respond to GM-CSF at the molecular level, to better optimize treatment of alcoholic lung disease.

[phildee3]

I can see the pros and cons
another way of limiting our freedom of choice
but then again may mean less drunk cunts in town centres on friday nights giving aggro



How will doubling supermarket prices do that?
Over 99% of the "drunk cunts" you refer to buy their booze in the bars.

They are raising the supermarket prices in order to increase the bar buisiness!

[phildee3]

Chronic alcohol abuse disrupts... blah, blah.



Like I said;

and moderate, responsible alcohol use is highly beneficial.

[lextorite]

Like I said;

and moderate, responsible alcohol use is highly beneficial.

Men should drink no more than 21 units of alcohol per week (and no more than four units in any one day).

Women should drink no more than 14 units of alcohol per week (and no more than three units in any one day).

What is a unit of alcohol?

One unit of alcohol is 10ml (1cl) by volume, or 8g by weight, of pure alcohol.

For example:
One unit of alcohol is about equal to:
half a pint of ordinary strength beer, lager or cider (3-4% alcohol by volume), or
a small pub measure (25ml) of spirits (40% alcohol by volume), or
a standard pub measure (50ml) of fortified wine such as sherry or port (20% alcohol by volume).
There are one and a half units of alcohol in:
a small glass (125ml) of ordinary strength wine (12% alcohol by volume), or
a standard pub measure (35ml) of spirits (40% alcohol by volume).

[phildee3]

Men should drink no more than 21 units of alcohol per week (and no more than four units in any one day).



Sounds about right to me - based on my own experience.

I would also add that quality is a factor too.

[picha]

Like I said;

and moderate, responsible alcohol use is highly beneficial.

Is lower testosterone a benefit?

[phildee3]

Is lower testosterone a benefit?



In lab studies, only after acute administration of alcohol have testosterone levels been found to be affected.

[konik]

given the looming hyperinflation i think that a doubling in price is a very restrained estimate. th number of deaths from alcohol will skyrocket as desperadoes turn to meths and distilled shoe polish to keep warm and happy.

[jack5]

the british government is trying to clamp down on the countrys binge drinking problem just five years after they gave the go-ahead for 24 hour drinking licenses. But critics say responsible drinkers on low incomes would be hit the hardest by the new restrictions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a71btd3mz2u

good!

[wakeup2nwo]

good!

when the broke alcoholics break into your house to rob your tv for the extra money they NEED for there addiction.. will that also be good?

[passing]

Men should drink no more than 21 units of alcohol per week (and no more than four units in any one day).

Women should drink no more than 14 units of alcohol per week (and no more than three units in any one day).

What is a unit of alcohol?

One unit of alcohol is 10ml (1cl) by volume, or 8g by weight, of pure alcohol.

For example:
One unit of alcohol is about equal to:
half a pint of ordinary strength beer, lager or cider (3-4% alcohol by volume), or
a small pub measure (25ml) of spirits (40% alcohol by volume), or
a standard pub measure (50ml) of fortified wine such as sherry or port (20% alcohol by volume).
There are one and a half units of alcohol in:
a small glass (125ml) of ordinary strength wine (12% alcohol by volume), or
a standard pub measure (35ml) of spirits (40% alcohol by volume).

Unfortunately the units system is a load of old bollocks - even the Tories have been saying recently that they'll scrap it if they get into power at the next election.

[phildee3]

Originally Posted by wakeup2nwo:
...responsible drinkers on low incomes would be hit the hardest by the new restrictions.

good!



Fuk u!

[onourwayto2012]

Rubbish.

It's a natural, agricultural and cultural development.
Medicinal, promotes good cheer, aids digestion, sociability, etc.
when used properly and not abused.

Anything is bad when abused.

It's poison phil.

[phildee3]

It's poison phil.

Nothing is poison when used in small amounts.
Everything is poison if used in large enough amounts - even water.

[onourwayto2012]

I see targetting the already fucked up lower class/homeless with even CHEAPER alcohol....here in Oregon we've had the 8% malt liquors for quite some time and then they come out with this shit called "Earthquake".....same price as the 8% but this is 12! $1.29 for a 24 ounce can.... 2 or 3 of those and you are stumbling.......and it tastes like shit!.....duh....so what is the purpose??...... to get the losers even further lost.... it sure ain't to provide a new taste sensation!

[phildee3]

I see targetting the already fucked up lower class/homeless with even CHEAPER alcohol....here in Oregon we've had the 8% malt liquors for quite some time and then they come out with this shit called "Earthquake".....same price as the 8% but this is 12! $1.29 for a 24 ounce can.... 2 or 3 of those and you are stumbling.......and it tastes like shit!.....duh....so what is the purpose??...... to get the losers even further lost.... it sure ain't to provide a new taste sensation!

This stuff is amazing:
http://www.connemarawhiskey.com/
It's twenty-five quid a bottle (at least) but a half shot is all I need for the whole evening!
Like I said - quality is the key, and cheaper in the long run.

[rodin]

Titanic

5.2%

£1.85 a pint + free tester

very satisfying

[phildee3]

Titanic

5.2%

£1.85 a pint + free tester

very satisfying

The best ale I've ever had is Spingo.
Only available here:

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~helstonhistory/blueanchorpage.htm

Always a brilliant night out in this pub!

[wakeup2nwo]

Stella £1.10 per can @ 5.0% at its cheapest where i live..

if it goes up to £2.20 its gonna hurt the mom and pops shop keepers that are left around here..
there struggling as it is, Ive known my local off licence keeper for 15 years and he tells me he might not make it till the end of the year..
it doesn't surprise me at all..
the pub across the road from the shop has closed around Christmas and i dont see anyone ever taking it on again... apparently 50+ pubs close a week in the UK according to a news report middle of last year.. so most people have no where left to drink than at home.. making them buy from supermarkets and such.. and hence the price rise IMHO..

[phildee3]

Stella £1.10 per can @ 5.0% at its cheapest where i live..



Piss-water!

Yuk!

[wakeup2nwo]

Piss-water!

Yuk!

it was 5.2 until mid last year! if that makes it any better ;):D

fuck knows why the down graded it?

[phildee3]

it was 5.2 until mid last year! if that makes it any better ;):D



No it doesn't.
Strong piss is still piss (even more so).



fuck knows why the down graded it?



So you piss heads can drink more of it
(more is better, don't ya know? :rolleyes:)

[passing]

Nothing is poison when used in small amounts.
Everything is poison if used in large enough amounts - even water.

Yes yes :cool:

[jack5]

when the broke alcoholics break into your house to rob your tv for the extra money they NEED for there addiction.. will that also be good?

Bring em on wack!

[lextorite]

Piss-water!

Yuk!

Agree.

I prefer Cannabia Hemp Organic Beer. The mainstream beers carry crap and then use fish or cow by-products to filter the crap.

http://images.ethicalsuperstore.com/images/resize280/53021.jpg

[wakeup2nwo]

Agree.

I prefer Cannabia Hemp Organic Beer. The mainstream beers carry crap and then use fish or cow by-products to filter the crap.

http://images.ethicalsuperstore.com/images/resize280/53021.jpg

id like to try Cannabia Hemp out. its only 4.2% but does the hemp add to the buzz?

[lextorite]

id like to try Cannabia Hemp out. its only 4.2% but does the hemp add to the buzz?

No, not really, but it taste great and goes down well. It's really hard to find. I have to go downtown London to get it.

[passing]

Agree.

I prefer Cannabia Hemp Organic Beer. The mainstream beers carry crap and then use fish or cow by-products to filter the crap.

http://images.ethicalsuperstore.com/images/resize280/53021.jpg

Looks good!

(I managed to see it while squinting to avoid your avatar :D )

[phildee3]

http://images.ethicalsuperstore.com/images/resize280/53021.jpg

It's really hard to find. I have to go downtown London to get it.



A very nice daytime beer.
Light but flavorsome.

No problem finding it in the southwest.

[lextorite]

A very nice daytime beer.
Light but flavorsome.

No problem finding it in the southwest.

What night-time organic beer would you recommend....:D :D :D :D

[sylviasilver]

When they say the price will double they really mean the tax will double, if one goes twice the price the rest will follow tobacco, wine, home brew the lot, anyone remember double diamond larger back in the 70's anyone.

We are both T totallers so they can put it up as much as they like, trebble it or higher will only bring more profit to the government at the cost of decent pubs which don't have the sports channel blasting, some of the bars around here you get thrown out of if your over 15 :D.

..well, you can always make your own...WITHOUT the need for brew kits ! There is no way they can ban people from making their own, unless it's back to the dark old days of prohibition, of course...:eek:

http://www.channel4.com/food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/nettle-beer-recipe_p_1.html

...nettles are free and abundant all over the British isles...so start gathering, people ! :D

Smokers, obese, now drinkers...what's next...coffee shops, cafes, libraries...basically, anywhere the masses can come together in a social setting..IF drinking and smoking are soooooooooo bad for you, why haven't the greedy wanker govt's banned it altogether??? hmmm...strange that...wonder why..:rolleyes:

[sylviasilver]

Agree.

I prefer Cannabia Hemp Organic Beer. The mainstream beers carry crap and then use fish or cow by-products to filter the crap.

http://images.ethicalsuperstore.com/images/resize280/53021.jpg

Cool !! I didn't know they did hemp beer, fabdabbydozy !!

;)

[wolfhead]

GOOD!

Been in A&E on a Friday night lately?

[Ian2day]

I had a few bottles of an organic beer some time back. It tasted klike a cross between petroleum and liquirice. It was hidious. Hence why I expect it was reduced from about £4 a bottle to 79p. It was over 5% gda weight.

[bones]

GOOD!

Been in A&E on a Friday night lately?

havnt you noticed that the media harpa on about its costing the nhs loads of money them drunken yobs!!!

more ppl visit hospital ,gp, dentist etc means more money for them ...


havnt you learnt anything whilst being here?:confused:

[phildee3]

What night-time organic beer would you recommend...



http://www.ciao.co.uk/Duchy_Originals_Organic_Ale__Review_5361516

http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=4563&afwinid=90909

[wolfhead]

havnt you noticed that the media harpa on about its costing the nhs loads of money them drunken yobs!!!

more ppl visit hospital ,gp, dentist etc means more money for them ...


havnt you learnt anything whilst being here?:confused:

Its not the money - its the carnage!

[bones]

Its not the money - its the carnage!

oh pls!

[bluntweapon]

oh no the opitate for the sheep will be harder to obtain!!!!

What a crisis! We need our minds occupied!!!
We demand our slave distraction! Its our slave right!:)

[jhado]

it was 5.2 until mid last year! if that makes it any better ;):D

fuck knows why the down graded it?

To save money..

The excise-duty on alcohol went up, breweries have to pay more tax for stronger brews.

Carlsberg Special-Brew is now 8%, was 9% last year.

[picha]

Do you people who drink honestly feel good after about 7 or 8 pints of whatever? I finally realized it just isn't much fun being like that, don't know why it took so long though. When I used to wake up feeling like death, often with wee sodden bed sheets I nearly always regretted going out on the piss the night before. I don't know of any other drug that can make you feel as horrible the next day as booze can, added to that the pleasure you get from it is only minimal anyway.

[bones]

Do you people who drink honestly feel good after about 7 or 8 pints of whatever? I finally realized it just isn't much fun being like that, don't know why it took so long though. When I used to wake up feeling like death, often with wee sodden bed sheets I nearly always regretted going out on the piss the night before. I don't know of any other drug that can make you feel as horrible the next day as booze can, added to that the pleasure you get from it is only minimal anyway.

how nice that the governement is doing it for our health!

and yes ive woken up feeling like shit cos of a skin full but i didnt come to the conclusion they need to double its price cos of it.
fine increase it and ill just brew it at home and make lots of money!

[mightiswrong]

This stuff is lovely cheap & easy.
Mead Recipes
Elderflower 'Champagne'

Elderflower Champagne is a classic British mead, flavoured with elderflowers, making a light and flavoursome mead. The full recipe
is presented here and I hope you enjoy this classic British version of Elderflower Champagne.

Despite commonly being termed a 'champagne' this recipe is actually a metheglin that is, a mead flavoured with elderflowers.
Ingredients:

3 large heads of elderflowers (make sure that they are fully open and not beginning to turn brown)
1kg honey
3 tbsp cider vinegar (for the ancient version) or 2 tbsp white wine vinegar and 1 lemon (for the modern version)
5l cold water.

Method:
Preparation

As with most of the other mead recipes presented on this site, this recipe has been gauged to make 5l of mead. Only a basic listing of ingredients is given, and for a brewing method please see this page for a step-by-step guide. Also see this page for a list of the equipment you'll need.

First add the water and honey to a large pan. Bring to the boil and stir continuously to dissolve the honey. When all the honey has dissolved turn off the heat and set the pan aside to cool completely. Meanwhile clean the elderflowers (but do not wash) and place in a clean bucket. If using a lemon pare-off the rind and add this to the bucket too. Squeeze the lemon juice and add to the vinegar. When the honey syrup is cold add the vinegar (or vinegar and lemon juice) to this and pour over the elderflowers. Mix for a few minutes with a clean spoon then cover and leave for 24 hours (come back and stir gently every six hours or so). In this case we're relying on the natural yeasts from the flowers to start the fermentation.

After 24 hours strain the syrup and pour into bottles. As this will ferment in the bottle and produce carbon dioxide you need to use bottles that won't break from the pressure. Either use plastic 'pop' bottles or screw-top glass lemoande bottles or champagne bottles. Sterilize these before use then pour the syrup mixture into them using a funnel. Set in a cool dark place to mature. The drink is ready after about two weeks, but maximum flavour develops after between six months and a year of conditioning in the bottle.
http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/brewing/fetch-recipe.php?rid=elderflower-champagne

[phildee3]

This stuff is lovely cheap & easy.



That is the number one problem with alcohol!
Cheap and easy = get shit-faced and smash the place up.

Good booze carefully crafted and matured = enjoyment and joviality.

[passing]

This stuff is lovely cheap & easy.

http://www.celtnet.org.uk/recipes/brewing/fetch-recipe.php?rid=elderflower-champagne

Sounds good, might try it... cheers in advance :D

[lextorite]

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Duchy_Originals_Organic_Ale__Review_5361516

http://www.thedrinkshop.com/products/nlpdetail.php?prodid=4563&afwinid=90909

The S. Smith one is always a winner in my book.....now I'm thirsty....:D