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catfood
26-09-2007, 08:51 AM
Monks march for freedom

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7011655.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7013638.stm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2482952.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093

http://timesonline.typepad.com/times_tokyo_weblog/2007/09/photographs-fro.html

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b5d_1190487564&p=1

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_7010000/newsid_7011800/7011836.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&asb=1&news=1&ms3=22

anoninnyc
26-09-2007, 03:31 PM
I know. I have been keeping up with this. All of my best wishes are with the monks.

on the road
26-09-2007, 04:29 PM
UP THE REVOLUTION!!!

peace and love V's fear and violence


come on the monks

on the road
29-09-2007, 07:50 PM
the generals raised the fuel prices from $1.16 per gallon to $2.33 per gallon and we all know what happened next.

yet in the UK we pay $9.72 a gallon .give or take a few sheckle.

who is getting ripped off here?

anoninnyc
29-09-2007, 08:00 PM
this whole thing is so scary. even china is urging them to use caution. how many have died? no way of knowing really.

gold
30-09-2007, 05:10 PM
I'm with the Monks! They know whats going on. We should really all join them!!!!!!!!!!!!

anoninnyc
30-09-2007, 05:26 PM
I'm with the Monks! They know whats going on. We should really all join them!!!!!!!!!!!!

i agree. but how?

siliconpsychosis
30-09-2007, 05:34 PM
Good luck to the monks, but ultimately this whole situation is meaningless. Even if the Burmese Government was overthrown, it would merely be replaced by a covert dictatorship like most other countries in the world.

We suddenly have millions of people around the world focusing their energy on the freedom of the Burmese. Thats fantastic, it really is. However the media coverage of the situation, conditions people to think that the Burmese are fighting for our freedoms. What freedom is that exactly. The freedom to become deeper slaves to the system. They may become a little wealthier, yet all they will do is become more capitalist and drain more resources like the ego maniacs populating the bulk of this planet. Woopy doo! Bring on capitalist democracy in Burma and everywhere else and the end result is a global capitalist nightmare.

I say freedom to Burma and freedom to everyone. Freedom from so called democracy and freedom from the global elite. Not freedom from one form of repression for another. Thats just pointless.

gold
30-09-2007, 05:37 PM
i agree. but how?

Put our materialistic World behind us, and unite.........And all stand up for our Planet Earth! This is what they fear the most! REVOLUTION!

anoninnyc
30-09-2007, 08:53 PM
Good luck to the monks, but ultimately this whole situation is meaningless. Even if the Burmese Government was overthrown, it would merely be replaced by a covert dictatorship like most other countries in the world.

We suddenly have millions of people around the world focusing their energy on the freedom of the Burmese. Thats fantastic, it really is. However the media coverage of the situation, conditions people to think that the Burmese are fighting for our freedoms. What freedom is that exactly. The freedom to become deeper slaves to the system. They may become a little wealthier, yet all they will do is become more capitalist and drain more resources like the ego maniacs populating the bulk of this planet. Woopy doo! Bring on capitalist democracy in Burma and everywhere else and the end result is a global capitalist nightmare.

I say freedom to Burma and freedom to everyone. Freedom from so called democracy and freedom from the global elite. Not freedom from one form of repression for another. Thats just pointless.

very true. well said.

utukxul
30-09-2007, 09:24 PM
the monk have probably lost this one but i believe they will win the war.
keep on struggle soon will all the people in burma wake up. and not tolerate this kind of things

irak
01-10-2007, 09:52 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10867


:( :( :(

mynameis
02-10-2007, 12:50 AM
Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle
By MARCUS OSCARSSON - More by this author » Last updated at 15:04pm on 1st October 2007

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Thousands of protesters are dead and the bodies of hundreds of executed monks have been dumped in the jungle, a former intelligence officer for Burma's ruling junta has revealed.

The most senior official to defect so far, Hla Win, said: "Many more people have been killed in recent days than you've heard about. The bodies can be counted in several thousand."

Mr Win, who spoke out as a Swedish diplomat predicted that the revolt has failed, said he fled when he was ordered to take part in a massacre of holy men. He has now reached the border with Thailand.

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Slaughter: Executed monks have been dumped in the jungle

Meanwhile, the United Nations special envoy was in Burma's new capital today seeking meetings with the ruling military junta.

Ibrahim Gambari met detained opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi in Rangoon yesterday. But he has yet to meet the country's senior generals as he attempts to halt violence against monks and pro-democracy activists.

It is anticipated the meeting will happen tomorrow.

Heavily-armed troops and police flooded the streets of Rangoon during Mr Ibrahim's visit to prevent new protests.

Mr Gambari met some of the country's military leaders in Naypyidaw yesterday and has returned there for further talks. But he did not meet senior general Than Shwe or his deputy Maung Aye - and they have issued no comment.

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Tensions: People gather outside a temple after a police raid today

Reports from exiles along the frontier confirmed that hundreds of monks had simply "disappeared" as 20,000 troops swarmed around Rangoon yesterday to prevent further demonstrations by religious groups and civilians.

Word reaching dissidents hiding out on the border suggested that as well as executions, some 2,000 monks are being held in the notorious Insein Prison or in university rooms which have been turned into cells.

There were reports that many were savagely beaten at a sports ground on the outskirts of Rangoon, where they were heard crying for help.

Others who had failed to escape disguised as civilians were locked in their bloodstained temples.

There, troops abandoned religious beliefs, propped their rifles against statues of Buddha and began cooking meals on stoves set up in shrines.

In stark contrast, the streets of Rangoon and Mandalay - centres of the attempted saffron revolution last week - were virtually deserted.

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Checkpoint: Police outside the house of opposition leader Aung Sang Suu Kyi today

Executed: The body of a Buddhist monk floats in a river

A Swedish diplomat who visited Burma during the protests said last night that in her opinion the revolution has failed.

Liselotte Agerlid, who is now in Thailand, said that the Burmese people now face possibly decades of repression. "The Burma revolt is over," she added.

"The military regime won and a new generation has been violently repressed and violently denied democracy. The people in the street were young people, monks and civilians who were not participating during the 1988 revolt.

"Now the military has cracked down the revolt, and the result may very well be that the regime will enjoy another 20 years of silence, ruling by fear."

Mrs Agerlid said Rangoon is heavily guarded by soldiers.

"There are extremely high numbers of soldiers in Rangoon's streets," she added. "Anyone can see it is absolutely impossible for any demonstration to gather, or for anyone to do anything.

"People are scared and the general assessment is that the fight is over. We were informed from one of the largest embassies in Burma that 40 monks in the Insein prison were beaten to death today and subsequently burned."

The diplomat also said that three monasteries were raided yesterday afternoon and are now totally abandoned.

At his border hideout last night, 42-year-old Mr Win said he hopes to cross into Thailand and seek asylum at the Norwegian Embassy.

The 42-year-old chief of military intelligence in Rangoon's northern region, added: "I decided to desert when I was ordered to raid two monasteries and force several hundred monks onto trucks.

"They were to be killed and their bodies dumped deep inside the jungle. I refused to participate in this."

With his teenage son, he made his escape from Rangoon, leaving behind his wife and two other sons.

He had no fears for their safety because his brother is a powerful general who, he believes, will defend the family.

Protests: But the situation inside Burma remains unclear

Mr Win's defection will raise a faint hope among tens of thousands of Burmese who have fled to villages along the Thai border.

They will feel others in the army may follow him and turn on their ageing leaders, Senior General Than Shwe and his deputy, Vice Senior General Maung Aye.

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catfood
02-10-2007, 08:55 PM
This shud cum as a hard wake up call to the people of the world, how far away are we from this on a global scale?
The Burmese political setup is a microcosm of what the illuminarty are setting up for us, if the people don’t wake up soon it might be too late. Once thay have total power thay wont give it up easily.

mynameis
02-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Jim Carrey call to Action

Jim Carrey - Call to Action on Burma and Aung San Suu Kyi - YouTube

gold
02-10-2007, 10:51 PM
Jim Carrey call to Action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySuaJ2B20E

I once joined with 'Human Rights' but un-joined very quickly, something didn't feel right about it! Bad Vibes.
This is SHOCKING NEWS what is happening to the monks, and the fact it could be us next.