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anyuser
14-02-2010, 06:28 AM
All Terrorists Must Register in South Carolina Or Face Punishment

Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government

Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison.

The state's "Subversive Activities Registration Act (http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c029.htm)," passed last year and now officially on the books (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/south-carolina-terrorist-registration-law-paperwork-al-queda-2569751.html), states that "every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."

There's even a $5 filing fee.

By "subversive organization," the law means "every corporation, society, association, camp, group, bund, political party, assembly, body or organization, composed of two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States [or] of this State."

A PDF of the registration form can be found here (http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SubversiveAgentForm.pdf), courtesy of FitsNews.

The law also gives subversive organizations "subject to foreign control" 30 days to register with the state after setting up shop in South Carolina.

While the intention of the law is apparently aimed at Islamic terrorists, it's unclear in the law's wording whether it can be applied to right-wing militias, some of whom have reputedly called for the overthrow of the US government. The law states that "fraternal" and "patriotic" groups are exempt from the law, but only if they don't "contemplate the overthrow of the government."

While the law is clearly redundant -- there are plenty of statutes at the state and federal level through which terrorists can be prosecuted -- it reflects a not-uncommon pattern in some states of "doubling down" against particular crimes.

For instance, South Carolina is among those states which require drug dealers to declare their illegal income, (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/01/taxing_illegal_drugs_alabamas.html)or face additional criminal penalties on top of the already established penalties for buying, possessing and selling drugs.

The South Carolina blog FitsNews describes the new law (http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/02/04/terrorists-must-register-with-sc-secretary-of-state/) as "bureaucracy for terrorists."

"In the long and storied history of utterly retarded legislation in South Carolina, we may have finally found the legal statute that takes the cake for sheer stupidity, which we think you’ll agree is saying something," the unsigned blog posting scathingly commented.

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/south-carolinas-subversive-activities-registration-act-force/

hadabusa
14-02-2010, 06:34 AM
and how do they wanna know if someone has changed their mind,or pretends allegiance?

wait,it says "foreign".

does that mean non us citizen?

bc thread title would be a bit misleading then,no?


who is the founding father of this bill?:)

torus
14-02-2010, 06:42 AM
"bureaucracy for terrorists."

what? this is a joke right? or....when the next 9/11 occurs the feds can just pull up some contrived document and say..."see, it sez right 'dere, I, Obsama Falafel AJ Gobama am a terrorist. Thank you fer' invitin' me into yer home"

I'm tired and slack-jawed right now...

anyuser
14-02-2010, 06:47 AM
this is no joke and real

hadabusa
14-02-2010, 06:51 AM
this is no joke and real

whats the problem,the 5 bucks?

:confused:

dreamweaver
14-02-2010, 06:55 AM
It seems Monty Python is alive and well and living in the Bible Belt. :D

orage
14-02-2010, 07:06 AM
US has a long history of these self-incriminating questions. If they can't make any thing else stick, they can deport you for giving false statements on these forms. Hell, they nailed Al Capone on tax evasion.

"Are you or were you ever a member of the Communist Party?" etc.

Isn't that still on the tourist visa form?

hadabusa
14-02-2010, 07:21 AM
US has a long history of these self-incriminating questions. If they can't make any thing else stick, they can deport you for giving false statements on these forms. Hell, they nailed Al Capone on tax evasion.

"Are you or were you ever a member of the Communist Party?" etc.

Isn't that still on the tourist visa form?

theres also the question if you plan to do a crime in the usa.


:)

dreamweaver
14-02-2010, 07:31 AM
theres also the question if you plan to do a crime in the usa.


:)

Yes, I remember that form. It also asked if you had been a Nazi war criminal. :D

phemohilia
14-02-2010, 07:32 AM
Well, see, the problem here is that D.C. isn't located in South Carolina!! :D

hadabusa
14-02-2010, 07:35 AM
Yes, I remember that form. It also asked if you had been a Nazi war criminal. :D

i find that question being asked understandeable.

you only want so much war criminals in the usa:)

octopusrex
14-02-2010, 07:50 AM
All Terrorists Must Register in South Carolina Or Face Punishment

Five-dollar registration fee for persons planning to overthrow US government

Terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions -- or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison.

The state's "Subversive Activities Registration Act (http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c029.htm)," passed last year and now officially on the books (http://www.nowpublic.com/world/south-carolina-terrorist-registration-law-paperwork-al-queda-2569751.html), states that "every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."

There's even a $5 filing fee.

By "subversive organization," the law means "every corporation, society, association, camp, group, bund, political party, assembly, body or organization, composed of two or more persons, which directly or indirectly advocates, advises, teaches or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States [or] of this State."

A PDF of the registration form can be found here (http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/SubversiveAgentForm.pdf), courtesy of FitsNews.

The law also gives subversive organizations "subject to foreign control" 30 days to register with the state after setting up shop in South Carolina.

While the intention of the law is apparently aimed at Islamic terrorists, it's unclear in the law's wording whether it can be applied to right-wing militias, some of whom have reputedly called for the overthrow of the US government. The law states that "fraternal" and "patriotic" groups are exempt from the law, but only if they don't "contemplate the overthrow of the government."

While the law is clearly redundant -- there are plenty of statutes at the state and federal level through which terrorists can be prosecuted -- it reflects a not-uncommon pattern in some states of "doubling down" against particular crimes.

For instance, South Carolina is among those states which require drug dealers to declare their illegal income, (http://blog.al.com/live/2010/01/taxing_illegal_drugs_alabamas.html)or face additional criminal penalties on top of the already established penalties for buying, possessing and selling drugs.

The South Carolina blog FitsNews describes the new law (http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/02/04/terrorists-must-register-with-sc-secretary-of-state/) as "bureaucracy for terrorists."

"In the long and storied history of utterly retarded legislation in South Carolina, we may have finally found the legal statute that takes the cake for sheer stupidity, which we think you’ll agree is saying something," the unsigned blog posting scathingly commented.

http://rawstory.com/2010/02/south-carolinas-subversive-activities-registration-act-force/

South Carolina has been and will always be the international HQ of the KKK.
And like I told a friend back there...
It's a new day for the KKK!

actaeons_revenge
14-02-2010, 05:51 PM
This is some retarded shit here. Don't these yokels have anything better to do than persecuting terrorists?

uksecretcourts
14-02-2010, 10:36 PM
Only $5.

cheap, I'll buy two. :D:D

dreamweaver
14-02-2010, 10:47 PM
i find that question being asked understandeable.

you only want so much war criminals in the usa:)

And here's the waiver form in all its glory:

http://www.seisdeagosto.com/indica/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/visa-waiver.gif

Love the way it asks if you've ever been a spy or terrorist too. :D

orage
14-02-2010, 11:18 PM
And here's the waiver form in all its glory:

http://www.seisdeagosto.com/indica/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/visa-waiver.gif

Love the way it asks if you've ever been a spy or terrorist too. :D

Love the last line, contact the American embassy before traveling. So you can be used as a operative, or patsy underwear bomber.

dreamweaver
14-02-2010, 11:33 PM
Love the last line, contact the American embassy before traveling. So you can be used as a operative, or patsy underwear bomber.
Also these forms are generally handed out on the plane (usually a little after the middle of the flight in my experience). So if you answer yes to anything, what are you supposed to do? Ask the pilot to turn back so you can get the Embassy to issue an emergency visa? :confused::D

hadabusa
14-02-2010, 11:35 PM
And here's the waiver form in all its glory:

http://www.seisdeagosto.com/indica/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/visa-waiver.gif

Love the way it asks if you've ever been a spy or terrorist too. :D

the best thing is, you can lie and it doesnt get checked.

i know of "criminals" who filed all wrong and been there.

*cough*:cool:

dreamweaver
14-02-2010, 11:41 PM
the best thing is, you can lie and it doesnt get checked.

i know of "criminals" who filed all wrong and been there.

*cough*:cool:

LOL, I know. Who the hell would tick Yes if they were a spy, terrorist, drug smuggler or whatever? The form is retarded. :D