member of society same as living on a landmass?

[britishnick]

I want to point out IMO that being a member of a society (chess society, knitting society, law society etc) is NOT the same being a resident on a landmass. When joining a society the new member agree's to adhere to the societies rules. if a member breaks the rules then the society heads may invoke restrictions on the members 'privillages' or 'rights' within their society, but ONLY WHEN THEY ARE A MEMBER.

example - [an athlete uses a 'banned substance' like some cold remedies, which breaks the athletes association (aka society) rules, so they are banned for life - this only stops them from competing within their own society, it doesn't suddenly ban the athlete fromrunning really fast in the park does it!!]

Members of a society are ust that, they are members who have opted to join said society. Unless that society is a society of slavery then there must be an option for that preson to leave, or never join in the firest palce.

a non member of society can travel freely through any area deemed "public space" without needing to be a member of a chess society.

If the chess society decide to plant some flowers in the public space to improve it they have no rights to stop non-members to see and smell the beuaty of the flowers. if the law society decides to build a path on a piece of public space, they cannot stop people moving freely over it, regardless of wherther they are also a member or not.

If a society places restrictions on non-members traveling through what is called "public space" becuase it is not private space. there cannot be restrictions by a societyon the use of 'public space' to anyone other than the members of that society. the only way they can place restrictions on who can travel through that "public space" is if the person has agreed to adhere to the rules of a society that he is a member of it.

non-members of the 'ruling society' are not suject to their rules or restrictions.

peace

x

[mark1963]

Good post.

[asdffdsa]

Do you speak the same language as other people in britain, britshnick?
Do you succumb to the rules of that language, grammar and spelling, or do you make it sidways as go aglon yuo?
Do you drive on the left side of the road?
If you are in France, do you still drive on the left side of the road?
Do you know how countries treat people they do not consider citizens?
Am I right to assume that that is the way you want to be treated?
If so, where shall we deport you?

[yozhik]

Do you speak the same language as other people in britain, britshnick?
Do you succumb to the rules of that language, grammar and spelling, or do you make it sidways as go aglon yuo?
Do you drive on the left side of the road?
If you are in France, do you still drive on the left side of the road?
Do you know how countries treat people they do not consider citizens?
Am I right to assume that that is the way you want to be treated?
If so, where shall we deport you?

So speaking a similar language creates a single society?
Ssssshhhhhh ... don't tell the 'Colonials'

Travelling on the same side of the road creates/constitutes a single society?
Ummmmmm ... those damn Colonials are becoming annoying

A country treats non-citizens a certain way? Really?
A geographic location has never treated me in any particular way ...
Officers performing employment duties of a government have; not the country.

Besides ... are we discussing a 'society' or a 'country'?

[britishnick]

@asdffdsa - most of what you post relates to an ability to live in harmony with others sharing the island I was born on - my whole point is that different societies can live in harmony without having any dominant society enforcing it's rule of other. soemone can be a member of the chess society and live in th same house, bed even of someone who is in the knitting socity.

Readin between the lines ((and this is only opinion) you seem to be coming from the angle that anyone who does not conform must be ejected?

I do not understand you comment "Am I right to assume that that is the way you want to be treated?" - Treat me in which way? by who?


If so, where shall we deport you?

Who is "we" ?
On what basis do you feel I should be "DEPORTED"?
What is the raeason I am deemed unable to live on this landmass?

[girlgye]

I think if you are British if you claim Nick.

You will see that Aff was being sarcastic/ironic in that acerbic way our very British Export John Cleese is.

You know who John Cleese is don't ya.

[somethinganonymous]

I want to point out IMO that being a member of a society (chess society, knitting society, law society etc) is NOT the same being a resident on a landmass. When joining a society the new member agree's to adhere to the societies rules. if a member breaks the rules then the society heads may invoke restrictions on the members 'privillages' or 'rights' within their society, but ONLY WHEN THEY ARE A MEMBER.

example - [an athlete uses a 'banned substance' like some cold remedies, which breaks the athletes association (aka society) rules, so they are banned for life - this only stops them from competing within their own society, it doesn't suddenly ban the athlete fromrunning really fast in the park does it!!]

Members of a society are ust that, they are members who have opted to join said society. Unless that society is a society of slavery then there must be an option for that preson to leave, or never join in the firest palce.

a non member of society can travel freely through any area deemed "public space" without needing to be a member of a chess society.

If the chess society decide to plant some flowers in the public space to improve it they have no rights to stop non-members to see and smell the beuaty of the flowers. if the law society decides to build a path on a piece of public space, they cannot stop people moving freely over it, regardless of wherther they are also a member or not.

If a society places restrictions on non-members traveling through what is called "public space" becuase it is not private space. there cannot be restrictions by a societyon the use of 'public space' to anyone other than the members of that society. the only way they can place restrictions on who can travel through that "public space" is if the person has agreed to adhere to the rules of a society that he is a member of it.

non-members of the 'ruling society' are not suject to their rules or restrictions.

peace

x

All true, except one point: there is no such thing as a society of slaves, for slavery is the opposite of a society. Else, it was all good.

[britishnick]

I think if you are British if you claim Nick.

You will see that Aff was being sarcastic/ironic in that acerbic way our very British Export John Cleese is.

You know who John Cleese is don't ya.

haha... must remember to turn my argumentative mode off some times ! ;o)