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wakeup2nwo
12-02-2010, 11:31 PM
Gerald Celente: The Economic Crash: Unemployment: Financal War:

Gerald Celente: The Economic Crash: Unemployment: Financal War: 12 Feb 2010 - YouTube

hadabusa
12-02-2010, 11:35 PM
spain does well with 20% unemployed and as a socialist country.

but then again,they dont run a huge military empire.


the usa better dont claim they havent been warned beforehand(by their russian "enemies" to boot).

:)

guuna
13-02-2010, 12:06 AM
Broon created the illusion of massiv economic growth in the UK by hugely expanding the state sector. Only a resiliant housing market is keeping the UK's head above the proverbial floodwaters.

Spain and Greece have actually re-entered recession.

There could still be worse to come as measures to boost the economy such as quantative easing and car scrappage schemes draw to a close.

zero1
13-02-2010, 12:14 AM
He describes it as a 'financial war', that's pretty bracing wouldn't you say? I mean, in the strongest terms possible...

wakeup2nwo
13-02-2010, 12:24 AM
He describes it as a 'financial war', that's pretty bracing wouldn't you say? I mean, in the strongest terms possible...

just realistic, the chinese go by sun tzu art of war which is to win a battle without drawing a weapon.. the usa go by Machiavelli's art of war which is to deceive and divide! 2 books every body should read.. all the politicians do!!

zero1
13-02-2010, 12:27 AM
just realistic, the Chinese go by sun tzu art of war which is to win a battle without drawing a weapon.. the usa go by Machiavelli's art of war which is to deceive and divide! 2 books every body should read.. all the politicians do!!

Yes indeed; I think we can say these 'enemies' (China & the U.S.) know each others methods well by now nonetheless.

wakeup2nwo
13-02-2010, 01:59 AM
Yes indeed; I think we can say these 'enemies' (China & the U.S.) know each others methods well by now nonetheless.

you would think so!

motleyhoo
13-02-2010, 05:05 AM
It's not just a financial war between countries. It's also a financial war between houses, with working American being the collateral damage. The banks and investment firms that colluded to create this catastrophe also hate each other the way mafia families hate each other while pretending otherwise in meetings where they divy up turf. Catherine Austin Fitts explains this very well. You can search her site for "economic warfare".

There's some good daily articles on her site also.

http://solari.com/blog/

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lizzy
13-02-2010, 05:33 AM
just realistic, the chinese go by sun tzu art of war which is to win a battle without drawing a weapon.. the usa go by Machiavelli's art of war which is to deceive and divide! 2 books every body should read.. all the politicians do!!

yes.......... but the chinese are already communist , the blueprint of the nwo , russia / china only spends a fraction of what the usa spends on military.... being built up as the west exhausts it'self.......crippled into a lucerfarian totalitarian one world gov....
the wars are just for profit of re-re and re- armament, re-re rebuilding contracts...and de-population. There is'nt one real rogue gov, their all in the bankers' satanic grip.

lizzy
13-02-2010, 05:35 AM
It's not just a financial war between countries. It's also a financial war between houses, with working American being the collateral damage. The banks and investment firms that colluded to create this catastrophe also hate each other the way mafia families hate each other while pretending otherwise in meetings where they divy up turf. Catherine Austin Fitts explains this very well. You can search her site for "economic warfare".

There's some good daily articles on her site also.

http://solari.com/blog/

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this is how I see it ........

motleyhoo
13-02-2010, 08:12 AM
this is how I see it ........

If you know who Bob Chapman is, he claims all these big bankers and Wall Street big wigs have weekly meetings at their private clubs where they all get together and brag about that week's wheeling dealing, each trying to outdo the other. The one who scammed the most people for the most money took away that week's bragging rights, and these guys are really, really competitive.

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icarus
13-02-2010, 08:34 AM
it's hard to see how the UK can pay for social welfare programmes and wars at the same time, one area will have to be sacrificed

i should imagine they'll cut the social side, so that our brave heroes can still shoot people in afghanistan

OAP's, kids, the poor etc, they won't be bailed out in the way the bankers were

wakeup2nwo
13-02-2010, 11:58 AM
it's hard to see how the UK can pay for social welfare programmes and wars at the same time, one area will have to be sacrificed

i should imagine they'll cut the social side, so that our brave heroes can still shoot people in afghanistan

OAP's, kids, the poor etc, they won't be bailed out in the way the bankers were

sad but true!

wakeup2nwo
13-02-2010, 12:34 PM
Yes indeed; I think we can say these 'enemies' (China & the U.S.) know each others methods well by now nonetheless.

check this out!

Chinese Military suggest to dump US bonds

Chinese Military suggest to dump US bonds - YouTube

subl1minal
13-02-2010, 12:39 PM
check this out!

Chinese Military suggest to dump US bonds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2OUwiBa1c

But as some of us know, China is setting up their own monetary system right? so if they do this, it won't effect them? and that's a point they're missing in the video. Correct me if I'm wrong! :)

the apprentice
13-02-2010, 01:06 PM
it's hard to see how the UK can pay for social welfare programmes and wars at the same time, one area will have to be sacrificed

i should imagine they'll cut the social side, so that our brave heroes can still shoot people in afghanistan

OAP's, kids, the poor etc, they won't be bailed out in the way the bankers were

We still don't se it do we, it is our buying into their system that is feeding the wars, feeding the wrong industrial complex.

zero1
13-02-2010, 01:56 PM
check this out!

Chinese Military suggest to dump US bonds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2OUwiBa1c

Yes, as usual I was considerably ahead of the game when I first brought up this story, as you can see here - China Threat to U.S. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103016&highlight=China)

But nobody reads my stuff anymore, do they? :rolleyes: Must be the avatar, or maybe the acerbic wit and intelligence that puts them off...

wakeup2nwo
13-02-2010, 03:11 PM
Collapse of the euro is 'inevitable': Bailing out the Greek economy futile, says FRENCH banking chief

By Sam Fleming and Tim Shipman
Last updated at 1:07 PM on 13th February 2010

The European single currency is facing an 'inevitable break-up' a leading French bank claimed yesterday.

Strategists at Paris-based Société Générale said that any bailout of the stricken Greek economy would only provide 'sticking plasters' to cover the deep- seated flaws in the eurozone bloc.

The stark warning came as the euro slipped further on the currency markets and dire growth figures raised the prospect of a 'double-dip' recession in the embattled zone

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1250433/Greece-debt-bailout-EU-leaders-split-euro-crisis.html#ixzz0fQesQYOO

hadabusa
13-02-2010, 03:16 PM
go greece, bring the whole thing down:cool:


way to prove the idiocy of these seeking global solutions when they cant even manage national matter properly.


nobody would miss the euro

iaintoff
13-02-2010, 03:29 PM
He describes it as a 'financial war', that's pretty bracing wouldn't you say? I mean, in the strongest terms possible...

Actually if you listen to Calente carefully he actually says this is the begining of a global war, there was always gonna be a financial war first, and then the losers will take their country, plus allay's to war.

wakeup2nwo
13-02-2010, 04:33 PM
Actually if you listen to Calente carefully he actually says this is the begining of a global war, there was always gonna be a financial war first, and then the losers will take their country, plus allay's to war.

thats right, Celente has been saying for a wile about the coming war, he calls it "World war of weapons of mass destruction" or something like that!

This was him last week talking about war!

Gerald Celente On The Coming War And Financial Collapse: 05 Feb 2010

Gerald Celente On The Coming War And Financial Collapse: 05 Feb 2010 - YouTube

wakeup2nwo
14-02-2010, 01:38 AM
But as some of us know, China is setting up their own monetary system right? so if they do this, it won't effect them? and that's a point they're missing in the video. Correct me if I'm wrong! :)

your right, china dont need the us!

hadabusa
14-02-2010, 04:40 AM
your right, china dont need the us!

uh, i wouldnt be sure about that.

where else will they sell their shit products?

anthony1965
14-02-2010, 08:51 AM
yes.......... but the chinese are already communist , the blueprint of the nwo , russia / china only spends a fraction of what the usa spends on military.... being built up as the west exhausts it'self.......crippled into a lucerfarian totalitarian one world gov....
the wars are just for profit of re-re and re- armament, re-re rebuilding contracts...and de-population. There is'nt one real rogue gov, their all in the bankers' satanic grip.

I agree Lizzy.

Anyone who takes the time to study how the west supported the rise of the bolsheviks, the rise of the nazi's, the soviet union, the rise of china, has already seen that the apparent differences are pure theatre played out for the interests of a small satanically inspired elite.

Sounds crazy?

Read it up. Western bankers provided the money every time. Western industry provided the technology to support all of these regimes. As recently as the Clinton adminstration supplying high tech military technology to China, conveniently obscured when the world's attention was diverted to Slick willy's willy. And Obama (with hillary by his side of course) is threatening to do it again.

The euro was created to fail. There was no way that it could succeed. Study the financial histories of the participating states. All they had to do was fulfil the Maastricht criteria (or pretend to) for a few years, and then they were supposed to be coupled forever. It was never going to work.

So where are the good guys? They are there, but you have to look inside yourself to find the answers. See through the game and find out what really counts.

wakeup2nwo
14-02-2010, 12:05 PM
uh, i wouldnt be sure about that.

where else will they sell their shit products?

They have more than enough population to sell goods too, also India.. your talking like the USA are too big to fail... well they ain't!!

the apprentice
14-02-2010, 01:00 PM
Are we all ready to fly then.

uksecretcourts
14-02-2010, 11:02 PM
your right, china dont need the us!

well she does and she doesn't.

China asked the Eu if they would change all the us dollars into euro's and that got refused (probably as it would have tanked the dollar).

China is on a knifes edge. 50% of the commercial property is empty. The chinese govt doesn't want riots, so they order the banks to keep lendiing. Hence shops, homes, malls are all standing empty as there's no one to rent them, but the govt can't stop building or it risks massive unemployment.

So europe, china etc are all in a deadly embrace.

The sunday times translated a lot of chinese text to get the "mood" of the ordinary chinese people. the are FURIOUS with America. Furious that the wasteful american have taken their stuff and they have the worthless dollar in exchange.

So the people as well as the military want a cold war between China and the US.

The US is giving arms to Taiwan and visiting the Dalai Lama, ie upsetting China.

So it's cold war here we come.

And if dip shit Obama allows an attack on Iran, then Russia and China will stand against the attack. The economic situation is the same for all 3 govts - they want war as a distraction for economic collapse.

wakeup2nwo
14-02-2010, 11:31 PM
china's a puppet like the rest of us, controlled by the banks!! there playing the cards they where given.. if they win ww3 then the elite have achieved what they want.. depopulation and a democratic one world government.. china more or less own america now.. just like the roman empire fell.. america will fall. just like the egyptian empire fell.. america will fall. and the british empire and so on.. america will fall.. if anyone think america is going to stay a super power for ever and ever like a fairy tale are deluded.. history is the way of looking at the future.. nothings changed!!

freedom1st
14-02-2010, 11:41 PM
china's a puppet like the rest of us, controlled by the banks!! there playing the cards they where given.. if they win ww3 then the elite have achieved what they want.. depopulation and a democratic one world government.. china more or less own america now.. just like the roman empire fell.. america will fall. just like the egyptian empire fell.. america will fall. and the british empire and so on.. america will fall.. if anyone think america is going to stay a super power for ever and ever like a fairy tale are deluded.. history is the way of looking at the future.. nothings changed!!

So you don't buy into the LaRouche theory that the British Empire owns America?

wakeup2nwo
14-02-2010, 11:55 PM
So you don't buy into the LaRouche theory that the British Empire owns America?

no, i think its the bilderbergers! they own the British empire.. thus America :)