2012, Ascension and the NWO

[neutrino]

Every time I discuss the possibility of ascension to the 4th Density and the NWO people ask me why would the NWO go to all the trouble it's going through now to create laws, take away freedoms and create superstates if come 2012 cataclysms will wipe out most of the Human population.

Well I really don't have an answer. The problem with myself is that I'm convinced something terrible could happen in 2012 with the Sun giving off solar flares and striking the Earth which currently has a weakened magnetic field and which has a gaping big hole in it.
The evidence I see out there seems quite strong about this.

But If I am to accept that then I cannot possibly accept that the NWO is being created. But I DO accept that a NWO is coming. They will trigger a global war, billlions of people will likely die and they will create a NWO from the ashes.

But both scenarios cannot both be true. One at some level contradicts the other.

Now I could understand that if 6 Billion people ascended to 4th density the Illuminati would struggle to implement a NWO because of so many awakened people. So if they kill billions of people before the ascension takes place all the dead people will re-incarnate into this NWO and from birth be controlled.

Now that would makes sense. Make sure only 500,000 people survive and all future generations even though it's 4th density can be manipulated and controlled. But the problem then still arises as to why bother creating the North American Union? Why bother with the EU? If everything is to be destroyed and Billions killed why bother?

I just don't know what to believe any more. Too many contradictions.

[theprophet]

I just don't know what to believe any more. Too many contradictions.

Too many contradictions, too many theories, too much speculation.

To be honest i stopped visiting this site a few months ago, most of it is just fear mongering prattle anyway, insiginificant updates and other junk.

It's depressing, the site itself holds so many conflicting theories on 2012 its just confusing.

So i will say what ive always said, believe in what your heart feels is right, i personally decided to slip back into ignorance.

[humito]

how about they warped time (gregorian calender) and it wont be 2012 for a while yet.........also the awakening is happening right now and will continue way past 2012 ( whenever it is) tptb want to implement the nwo and have a messiah ( probably prince william after he "prooves " his bloodline with a dna test of the turin shroud) in place before too many people become concious and see through the manipulation and poisoning .......yes they want most of us dead before this is acheived and they are trying to stop us from becomming concious with tv, chemtrails ,flouride etc etc etc.............they are using the internet to see who knows what and to confuse the issue with misinformation.......

[ustane]

Yes - theprohet and humito have got it. Yes, they are trying to suppress the awakening with fluoride, chemtrails, tv, microchipping and FEAR. Fear is polluting the forums (this one) and others and now on sites exposing the conspiracy even and truthseeker sites with the poisoning from the NWO I believe the idea of a catastrpophe in 2012 is a manipulated one by them to hold us down vibrationally to PREVENT our ascension or awakening. Because if they give people something unpleasant and pathological to fear it works to put people off the 'conspiracy' arena all together, it does damage to truthseeking 'cos then we all get labelled as tin foil hats. Yes it's confusing, levels of misinformation and lies are being spread between truth. I too have withdrawn sometimes from the forum and the rest not knowing what to believe anymore. If the concept of the NWO and catastrophe contradict, yes they do, sure there would be no point in setting up their NWO/depopulation agenda if a catastrophe was gonna come. So IMO the answer must be the catastrophe is a big scam to: lower you into greater density in the fear vibe and lock you in survival mode; a diversion that will drive you into the skeptics community and put you off awakening others; and cause you to manifest disaster through your belief in it; possibly to make you fall for a 'coming together as one, one world gov' out of fear of an outside threat. They are using the internet to confuse with misinformation, they know what sites you go on

[subl1minal]

Yes - theprohet and humito have got it. Yes, they are trying to suppress the awakening with fluoride, chemtrails, tv, microchipping and FEAR. Fear is polluting the forums (this one) and others and now on sites exposing the conspiracy even and truthseeker sites with the poisoning from the NWO I believe the idea of a catastrpophe in 2012 is a manipulated one by them to hold us down vibrationally to PREVENT our ascension or awakening. Because if they give people something unpleasant and pathological to fear it works to put people off the 'conspiracy' arena all together, it does damage to truthseeking 'cos then we all get labelled as tin foil hats. Yes it's confusing, levels of misinformation and lies are being spread between truth. I too have withdrawn sometimes from the forum and the rest not knowing what to believe anymore. If the concept of the NWO and catastrophe contradict, yes they do, sure there would be no point in setting up their NWO/depopulation agenda if a catastrophe was gonna come. So IMO the answer must be the catastrophe is a big scam to: lower you into greater density in the fear vibe and lock you in survival mode; a diversion that will drive you into the skeptics community and put you off awakening others; and cause you to manifest disaster through your belief in it; possibly to make you fall for a 'coming together as one, one world gov' out of fear of an outside threat. They are using the internet to confuse with misinformation, they know what sites you go on

You've got it one too!

[psychick]

hmmm

Forget Doubt and Fear for they don't exist. throw them both out of the window of your MIND.

I am ascending to the 5th at the moment; having a constant awakening and focusing on the now.

give up reading newspapers, watching the news, being brainwashed. It's very freeing and it will detox your mental state.

We all think too much anyway and who cares if you don't know what's going on in the world; there's not much you can do about it anyway!!

Keep it all simple and use your inner light to guide you. Don't ask anyone for answers. Never tell your problems to anyone - 20% don't care and 80% are glad you have them.

Keep your feet on the ground as you ascend and just DO IT. Nothing can suppress you if you don't subscribe to it.

[subl1minal]

hmmm

Forget Doubt and Fear for they don't exist. throw them both out of the window of your MIND.

I am ascending to the 5th at the moment; having a constant awakening and focusing on the now.

give up reading newspapers, watching the news, being brainwashed. It's very freeing and it will detox your mental state.

We all think too much anyway and who cares if you don't know what's going on in the world; there's not much you can do about it anyway!!

Keep it all simple and use your inner light to guide you. Don't ask anyone for answers. Never tell your problems to anyone - 20% don't care and 80% are glad you have them.

Keep your feet on the ground as you ascend and just DO IT. Nothing can suppress you if you don't subscribe to it.

Totally agree :)

Plus nothing on here should scare people, if you come to understand the true nature of this existence/reality, then fear is worthless, it's just another tool for the elite that's no longer working.

[shakes spears]

hmmm

Forget Doubt and Fear for they don't exist. throw them both out of the window of your MIND.

I am ascending to the 5th at the moment; having a constant awakening and focusing on the now.

give up reading newspapers, watching the news, being brainwashed. It's very freeing and it will detox your mental state.

We all think too much anyway and who cares if you don't know what's going on in the world; there's not much you can do about it anyway!!

Keep it all simple and use your inner light to guide you. Don't ask anyone for answers. Never tell your problems to anyone - 20% don't care and 80% are glad you have them.

Keep your feet on the ground as you ascend and just DO IT. Nothing can suppress you if you don't subscribe to it.

:) this is the best thing i have read on this site for ages, just awesome and has reinspired me to turn off the news and put down the paper and sit in peace with myself. thank you

[gaias child]

Great posts everybody. sums up how I feel about it all too.