View Full Version : New-Agers and the concept of Love
yinon
23-09-2007, 09:35 AM
New-agers are completely mixed up in relation to the concept of true love .
For them, they love when they feel positive emotions like Joy, happiness, support, softness. What's the problem with that? I noticed that they are unable to face their dark side.. They project a lot of their personal loads on others.
I was on the phone with one of them today. What a hard time I had! She doesn't want to believe that you only can experiment TRUE LOVE when your positive and negative emotions merge as one.
She asked me for my birth date to check out how I am fucked up ! She cried all along the phone call. Yes , she is truly depress. At the end, she opened her heart but only for awhile.
What do you want lady? Do you want to prove that I cannot help you. Great then, you are not ready to work with that stuff and all is fine like it is.
The day you'll be ready , I'll be there. For now, I don't want to fight with you.
The New World Order support them as their spiritual puppets. They cannot love gang. They project so much judgements on others.
They are the Satanists disguised under Their LIGHT suit.Aka MARIA!!!!
I am a human being with her bugs. That's all.
They are playing the enlightened GODDESSES
Gosh! What a dirty game!
father ted
23-09-2007, 09:41 AM
They love the "holier than though mentality".
anoninnyc
23-09-2007, 12:25 PM
They love the "holier than though mentality".
yup. really not any different from the christians or muslims, etc.
father ted
23-09-2007, 01:40 PM
I think there's a few or a lot here on this forum without them realising they have a new age mentality. However, it could be a natural progression or a learning curve.
serpentoffire
23-09-2007, 01:50 PM
"The response is inside you...but unfortunately it is wrong" :D
http://www.aperion.it/immagini-arcane/fattore-arcano-quelo.jpg
New ager are dangerous. You could find a evil spirit inside you only been in contact with these person. Their claims about love, peace are only illusory. They want only your soul and your money. They are puppets of Lucifer!!:mad:
Holy Spirit, God, Jesus are your only light, everything else is illusion.;)
crowhawk
23-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Just a lot of menopausal old women who have too many cats. But, then again, unlike the Christians & most other organised religions, they haven't started any wars yet! Probably killed a few people with dodgy "Cancer Cures" though!
revolutionary_jam
23-09-2007, 02:53 PM
they are unable to face their dark side.. They project a lot of their personal loads on others.
I was on the phone with one of them today. What a hard time I had! She doesn't want to believe that you only can experiment TRUE LOVE when your positive and negative emotions merge as one.
Bang On! IMO
yinon
23-09-2007, 03:01 PM
Just a lot of menopausal old women who have too many cats. But, then again, unlike the Christians & most other organised religions, they haven't started any wars yet! Probably killed a few people with dodgy "Cancer Cures" though!
Lol. No it's not only women. I was with a 55 years old man the other day. During the process he realized that he is misogynist and he deeply connected how he doesn't love women. It has been hard for him. He was facing the truth for the first time of his life.
Now he prefers to state that I didn't help him.
yinon
23-09-2007, 03:05 PM
"The response is inside you...but unfortunately it is wrong" :D
http://www.aperion.it/immagini-arcane/fattore-arcano-quelo.jpg
New ager are dangerous. You could find a evil spirit inside you only been in contact with these person. Their claims about love, peace are only illusory. They want only your soul and your money. They are puppets of Lucifer!!:mad:
Holy Spirit, God, Jesus are your only light, everything else is illusion.;)
Yes, they are dangerous.
Why?
Because they want to shine. They are willing to commit the worst to not fall from their pedestal
What can we do to spread the concept of TRUE LOVE?
It is really important for the future of our planet
LET THE TRUTH SHINES GANG!
yinon
23-09-2007, 03:11 PM
I think there's a few or a lot here on this forum without them realising they have a new age mentality. However, it could be a natural progression or a learning curve.
Yes they are many here.
Are they truly willing to learn? No.
They say they are but first of all the fight going on in the shadow continues.
AKA! GODDESSES and GODS....YOU ARE HUMAN BEINGS!
Right - REAL ASS HOLE!!!!
soglad
23-09-2007, 03:16 PM
I was in Glastonbury a week ago, and there were these ridiculous shops selling "enlightenment" and other new age fads...you could just sense the falseness...
Now, I may have some "new-age" in me...but I ask....arn't we NOT ACTUALLY entering a new-age? I believe love (intent, passion) IS the driving force of humans, why else would we be here? I understand this message has been miscontrued by various charatains, but that's the way the cookie crumbles....
serpentoffire
23-09-2007, 03:29 PM
"enlightenment" for money ? Is the "enlightenment" a soap or a car?
New age movement is an idea of freemasonry to disconnect you from God and bring you to Satan.
http://www.corradoguzzanti.it/img/foto_personaggi/big/quelo_adepti.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9409/guzzantimassonegolpemz3.jpg
soglad
23-09-2007, 03:31 PM
"enlightenment" for money ? Is the "enlightenment" a soap or a car?
New age movement is an idea of freemasonry to disconnect you from God and bring you to Satan.
http://www.corradoguzzanti.it/img/foto_personaggi/big/quelo_adepti.jpg
I hope you're not referring to me?
I don't listen to any new age stuff, as I know how false it is.
mr jones
23-09-2007, 04:00 PM
do you think they are like hippies?
new age hippies?
soglad
23-09-2007, 04:07 PM
do you think they are like hippies?
new age hippies?
Yeah, it was hippy central.
Very fake, lots of drunken/stoned people walking everywhere.
resistance
23-09-2007, 04:16 PM
Its new agers that support lots of this governments policy, under the pretense that its there tu protect us and the planet, although it must be said most are mislead into this way of thinking. They promoted the global warming scam (lots of the bogus scientists that first started talking about global warming on TV around 15 years ago were new agers) most were mislead and based their research around a number of leading scientists findings, and yep yu guessed it they were new agers! These sort of people often work in home office positions, local council, social workers, scientists, probation officers etc and any other local authority position where they can offload there ism's on people. What pisses me off about these people is the way they go about there work, usually enforcing the law on people with a friendly smile with the hippie clothes on. Where have yu heard this before, 'i know its not right but its the law and i am only doing my job'
soglad
23-09-2007, 04:18 PM
What pisses me off about these people is the way they go about there work, usually enforcing the law on people with a friendly smile with the hippie clothes on.
God that sent a shiver down my spine....
Very true.
mr jones
23-09-2007, 04:20 PM
yea, and everyone who isnt a hippy must be 'fascist scum' :D
Yeah, it was hippy central.
Very fake, lots of drunken/stoned people walking everywhere.
Keep Stable 100%;)
synergy777
23-09-2007, 07:25 PM
its too find balance/unity of these sides, to use them as a constructive force. the creator and destroyer. each has it purpose.
phoebe
23-09-2007, 07:56 PM
New-agers are completely mixed up in relation to the concept of true love .
For them, they love when they feel positive emotions like Joy, happiness, support, softness. What's the problem with that? I noticed that they are unable to face their dark side.. They project a lot of their personal loads on others.
I was on the phone with one of them today. What a hard time I had! She doesn't want to believe that you only can experiment TRUE LOVE when your positive and negative emotions merge as one.
She asked me for my birth date to check out how I am fucked up ! She cried all along the phone call. Yes , she is truly depress. At the end, she opened her heart but only for awhile.
What do you want lady? Do you want to prove that I cannot help you. Great then, you are not ready to work with that stuff and all is fine like it is.
The day you'll be ready , I'll be there. For now, I don't want to fight with you.
The New World Order support them as their spiritual puppets. They cannot love gang. They project so much judgements on others.
They are the Satanists disguised under Their LIGHT suit.Aka MARIA!!!!
I am a human being with her bugs. That's all.
They are playing the enlightened GODDESSES
Gosh! What a dirty game!
Great post yinon.
I agree...
True balance and self knowledge
Can only be reached if you
Embrace your DARK SIDE!!
thetonic
23-09-2007, 08:21 PM
yes people need to understand that all the "evil" thoughts and actions of the world reside in each and everyone of us.. Some of us recognize this and accept it, embrace it, but choose not to materialize it.. Thats what life is about ... Choice...
Most new agers are in denial of this
Great post yinon.
I agree...
True balance and self knowledge
Can only be reached if you
Embrace your DARK SIDE!!
I've embraced the dark side! and! well; it just keeps coming up roses, am I lucky or what??
serpentoffire
23-09-2007, 08:35 PM
May the force be with you
http://www.dancewithshadows.com/media/images/anakin-skywalker.jpg
May the force be with you
http://www.dancewithshadows.com/media/images/anakin-skywalker.jpg
You can be lucky too:eek:
thetonic
23-09-2007, 08:53 PM
May the force be with you
http://www.dancewithshadows.com/media/images/anakin-skywalker.jpg
THis is what you become should you choose to use the darkforces to your gain...
Reptilian regression
THis is what you become should you choose to use the darkforces to your gain...
Reptilian regression
:D:p:D
chris
23-09-2007, 09:10 PM
Its very easy to bash newagers, a bit like scientologists. I think the real problem with all mentally ethical based religions is that they believe just because they can with great effort repress (to a small degree) part of their consciousness with happy thoughts (or cognitive dissidence) that they believe they are really making an impact on the other 97% of the mind. In reality its probably more agitating it.
The same can be said for David Icke as a lot of people here think they can change reality if they just believe in a different one. In theory this might work but how are you going to deal with the subconscious that believes in this reality?
It creates a frustration for the individual and makes it hard to communicate your true feelings as moral mental dogma is stopping them.
NLP is a great example of this, these guys really piss me off. Also people that are avid followers of the laws of attraction. I would take back what I say if a person who had an extremely controlled mind and it would be 100% worth him exploring this type of philosophy but to me it seems a case for most people trying to fly before they can crawl.
teslafire
23-09-2007, 09:33 PM
Can we collectively embrace the dark side and forgive each other, send Bush et al some real cosmic love?
Or at least sheath ourselves in our own purity and true love so that this doesn't happen to us:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
I was hanging out with this super new ager the other day, you know the kind that think they are avatars (this guy's band is called 'Genius of Soul'...LOL LOL), anyways we are talking about some mutual friend who is being sent back for another tour to Iraq, when he just got home less than three months ago.
Then the conversation opened up about how there is no way the troop levels can maintain themselves without a draft to which I sardonically quipped that I was ready to stab myself above the patella, 'Platoon' style, so I could avoid combat...
Dude goes off on me telling me I'm horribly negative and then proceeds to give me a 10 minute sanctimonious speech about 'seeing light and having pure intent and balancing the good with the bad'. And its not like this speech was uninterrupted, myself and another kept trying to change the topic, but on and on he blathered about 'how to live life and be a good person', 'how to not worry about bad shit', and of course a requisite primer to the LOA...
If I wasn't so stunned (and stoned) I'd have slapped the fascist!
Its very easy to bash newagers, a bit like scientologists. I think the real problem with all mentally ethical based religions is that they believe just because they can with great effort repress (to a small degree) part of their consciousness with happy thoughts (or cognitive dissidence) that they believe they are really making an impact on the other 97% of the mind. In reality its probably more agitating it.
The same can be said for David Icke as a lot of people here think they can change reality if they just believe in a different one. In theory this might work but how are you going to deal with the subconscious that believes in this reality?
It creates a frustration for the individual and makes it hard to communicate your true feelings as moral mental dogma is stopping them.
NLP is a great example of this, these guys really piss me off. Also people that are avid followers of the laws of attraction. I would take back what I say if a person who had an extremely controlled mind and it would be 100% worth him exploring this type of philosophy but to me it seems a case for most people trying to fly before they can crawl.
You mean the subliminal, that, that knows all and sees all; well! I trust in it:) to give me feed back! when I'm ready and not before.
spiraltrance
24-09-2007, 11:18 AM
Alot of the new agers are inspired by the feminine energies and there idea of the new age is sitting round expressing your emotions and huggin each other. They aren't really anything new because they just advocate replacing a patriarchy with a matriarchy, a god with a godess and a male ruler with a female one. So pretty much the system just a superficial change.
Far better than concept of love is a concept of union. Bringing together the yin and yang principles. The word love has to many connotations attached to it.
bigus_dickus
24-09-2007, 12:38 PM
new agers are the people who believe in a "new age" millenium that is going to be the millenium of light, guided by da Jesus himself, or the "christ consciousness" and that they are going to ascend to a super human status and meet with their freedom and their bliss. and that a big planetary cycle will end and another one will begin in a different part of the universe where the energy of life is more intense and where evil and negativity perish.
wait a minute... isn't this what the majority of the forum believe?
serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 02:09 PM
new agers are the people who believe in a "new age" millenium that is going to be the millenium of light, guided by da Jesus himself, or the "christ consciousness" and that they are going to ascend to a super human status and meet with their freedom and their bliss. and that a big planetary cycle will end and another one will begin in a different part of the universe where the energy of life is more intense and where evil and negativity perish.
wait a minute... isn't this what the majority of the forum believe?
Jesus haven't nothing relation with new age.
This is a misconception of GOD as energy of love and peace.
God is also jealousy for his persons and anger for rebels.
He send death and damnation for his enemies.
What GOD are you talking about?
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/images/num21-9.jpg
bigus_dickus
24-09-2007, 02:24 PM
Jesus haven't nothing relation with new age.
This is a misconception of GOD as energy of love and peace.
God is also jealousy for his persons and anger for rebels.
He send death and damnation for his enemies.
What GOD are you talking about?
it's all based on biblical prophesies and the various interpretations of them. they are various and they are different and diverse.
is your conception of God the correct belief?
serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 02:35 PM
it's all based on biblical prophesies and the various interpretations of them. they are various and they are different and diverse.
is your conception of God the correct belief?
I talk only about I know and I have a lot of paranormal activities around me :cool:
I burned religions, ideologies and new ages misbeliefs. :D
bigus_dickus
24-09-2007, 02:39 PM
I talk only about I know and I have a lot of paranormal activities around me :cool:
I burned religions, ideologies and new ages misbeliefs. :D
so that means you don't part with the "2012 apocalypse" believers :cool:
serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 02:51 PM
so that means you don't part with the "2012 apocalypse" believers :cool:
I'm a clairvoyant and I confirm you that something is going to happen imminently. You'll see thing never seen before. 2012-2013 is the high peak of sun storm energy. Demons will use this energy to posses the outer earth.
Be prepared to unbelievable!!
http://www.cineybso.com/fotos%20cine/constantine.jpg
bigus_dickus
24-09-2007, 02:59 PM
I'm a clairvoyant and I confirm you that something is going to happen imminently. You'll see thing never seen before. 2012-2013 is the high peak of sun storm energy. Demons will use this energy to posses the outer earth.
Be prepared to unbelievable!!
you don't scare me.
serpentoffire
24-09-2007, 03:10 PM
you don't scare me.
I'm happy for you. :)
resistance
24-09-2007, 03:55 PM
Alot of the new agers are inspired by the feminine energies and there idea of the new age is sitting round expressing your emotions and huggin each other. They aren't really anything new because they just advocate replacing a patriarchy with a matriarchy, a god with a godess and a male ruler with a female one. So pretty much the system just a superficial change.
Far better than concept of love is a concept of union. Bringing together the yin and yang principles. The word love has to many connotations attached to it.
Yes i have seen this tu, it really is a very feminine energy orientated religion, i never did like many of these self righteous patronizing new agers, the fact that many of its followers are feminists would indicate that its a government religion.
And yu are right it does cause imbalances of male/female unity, 'divide and rule', it seeks tu destroy the fire within oneself 'the wild child' the fire of the freedom warrior and many other fires that harness positive energy.
chris
24-09-2007, 04:28 PM
i never did like many of these self righteous patronizing new agers,
Though they may come across that way I think the real reason for it is that they taught a kind of language spirituality where you have to be perfect and this striving to be perfect is what causes the holier than thou mentality. In other words, they don't think they'll ascend if they let negative thoughts and especially words come out of them. It's not like they are patronising, they are trying to be the best newager they can be.
Newage is not a doctorine, it's a whole mish mash of beliefs that are infinite in variation. I believe their common thread throughout all newage a lot of mainstream religions is the lanaguage they allow themselves to use (mentally and vocally). This causes great stress on their minds because they can't control their thoughts like this for long periods of time. They also become wet sponges for easy submission.
They also are very inconsistant when it comes to the negative aspect, they acknowledge it is there for balance but they pay no attention to what it really is. Psychiatry is the same in this respect and especially NLP. Psychiatry is responsible for creating many fuckups in their quest for taming the ego through these ends, the poster girl of psychiatry killed herself in Sigmond Frauds house. Now psychiatry is purely about pushing drugs. Should be interesting to see where these other chaining religions will go.
Even though newage has some good routes, all the real info has been taken out of it, for instance in astrology, they have completely gone insane and wreaked almost everything that took thousands of years to accumilate. In yoga, they have taken out all the neural philosophies and how they connect to the mind and how to free them for doing the splits. In meditation, they take out all the effort and replace it with 'if a thought comes in, just let it and then let it pass by.'
The aincient yogis took the subconscious very seriously and advised not to confront it straight on until they were very well prepaired. This is because it leads to paranoia and obsessive compulsive tendancies. This kind of stuff has been completely ommited and only accessible if you go right back to the earliest sources of their knowledge.
I don't know if this has been done on purpose or not I more expect that today we are very lazy and guru's like to make money telling people the easy ways out (look at our diet industry) rather than having to work at something. Part of this I believe is why the 2012 bullshit is here, they are saying they don't need to work so hard because they are ascending when really they see the odd vision and take that to mean your actually getting somewhere.
yinon
25-09-2007, 11:25 AM
They also are very inconsistant when it comes to the negative aspect, they acknowledge it is there for balance but they pay no attention to what it really is. Psychiatry is the same in this respect and especially NLP. Psychiatry is responsible for creating many fuckups in their quest for taming the ego through these ends, the poster girl of psychiatry killed herself in Sigmond Frauds house. Now psychiatry is purely about pushing drugs. Should be interesting to see where these other chaining religions will go.
Well put.
Who are their spiritual Masters? It is those who hide their dark side. It is why they push us the concept of the perfect GOD incarnated in a human body. Until now, they were male. Now, they wish to sell us the image of the perfect female.
New-agers make us gleam the idea that one day we will touch this perfection.
In the past , I have met few Yogis. Most of them have a Master who hide himself in an ashram. If you come in their intimate life you will realize really fast that you cannot confront them. They must give a good exemple but first of all they cannot face the truth easily.
All is relative! What means a good exemple?
crowhawk
25-09-2007, 11:45 AM
Personally I'm inclined to view it as a scam. People pedaling fake cancer cures, from something called "Atomic Gold" to the water of Lourdes, convincing desperate dieing people, that their snake oil quackery can achieve what scientific medicine can't. Palmistry? Come on If there's some great plan where destiny's all mapped out, is the secret likely to be written on the palms of our hands or at the bottom of a teacup, able to be determined, not by scientists but by gypsies & menopausal old women "for a small fee"? Spirit mediums preying upon the misery of grief stricken relatives desperate for anything to salve the pain of their grief, ought to be jailed for the nasty confidence tricksters which they are. There again the churches have been doing it for centuries. It's all crackpot superstitious charlatanry, that has no place in the modern world outside of a lunatic asylum. The at best deluded, at worst dangerous ambulance chasing predators. Exponents of this lucrative craft should be held up to the light of reason & consigned to the scorn & derision they so meretriciously deserve. They should be stripped of their assets in the manner of gangsters, drug dealers & others who prey on societies weakest members.
mr_moon
25-09-2007, 11:53 AM
Interesting topic!
I've noticed that a lot of things have entered my life that resonate with me and a lot of things that don't resonate with me... and i've noticed a rise in the 'New Age' philosophy in a lot of places.
What we must all remember though, is that if a person wants to believe something and other people want to believe them- then that's their choice!!
If you choose to try and educate on something else that might not be what they believe in- then that's your choice!!
I think the key to all this rising energy in the World (which if you look at it it's happening- it's neither positive nor negative but SOMETHING is rising in frequency...) is to deal with it the best you can.
There is a certain amount of 'knowing' that tells me living in this very moment and basing your life ENTIRELY through following your Intuition with Intelligence, that is to say making an effort and making sure you are looking after yourself both emotionally, mentally and physically (because we are Human Beings after all...) yet not 'dwelling' on the past or future- is possibly going to be the only way we can deal with things that happen personally and Globally in these EXTREME times.
Things are heating up. The Earth is SPEWING out allsorts of crazy shit. People are spewing out all sorts of crazy shit. What do we do? Argue? Fight? Love? Ignore? If we do then that's just a choice. It's not bad OR good- it just is.
We educate and learn at the same time, always.
Where we end up is irrelevant. It's where we are NOW that is important...
MUCH LOVE
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