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pri01
22-09-2007, 10:20 PM
Top line topic on tonights UK news; Don't know much about this but recently revealed they showed a lamb with sore open wounds on a knee joint. The lamb it is said should have had a swollen face???? What is blue tongue disease?

bumble
22-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Hi pri01 I've never heard of it. It is probably a different name for something else. Just to get people worried. Then tell us we need to be vacinated against it. Pumping more poison into us, to control us.:)

shodan
23-09-2007, 03:34 PM
Hi pri01 I've never heard of it. It is probably a different name for something else. Just to get people worried. Then tell us we need to be vacinated against it. Pumping more poison into us, to control us.:)


The rise of bluetongue disease

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7009288.stm

The virus is of the same type as northern Europe suffers
Bluetongue is a mysterious disease, with no suitable vaccine, but there are still reasons for optimism for British farmers, despite the case at a Suffolk farm.

If bluetongue were to take hold in Britain it would change the landscape.

Anywhere which has hills dotted with sheep would be devastated. The strain of the disease found at a rare breeds farm in Suffolk has come from northern Europe.

There where it has struck flocks of sheep have seen 30-35% of their numbers dying.

BLUETONGUE FACTS
Strain is type 8
Same as northern Europe
Kills 30-35% of infected sheep
Kills 1% of infected cows
Culicoides obsoletus or pulicaris midges responsible
One midge bite enough for infection
Transmission to midges much harder


Further bluetongue tests

The likely route for its arrival is in a cloud of midges blown by warm winds across from Germany, the Low Countries or north-eastern France. One bite from an infected midge is enough to transfer the disease to an animal.

No-one knows how bluetongue came to be in northern Europe, says Professor Peter Mertens of the Institute of Animal Health at Pirbright in Surrey.

In southern Europe as temperatures have risen, the disease has spread from Turkey through Bulgaria and into Greece and the Balkans, as well as from North Africa to Italy, and from Morocco to Spain and Portugal.

Devastating potential

But there has to be a fourth route of transmission, Prof Mertens says. The strain found at the Suffolk farm, and in northern Europe, is type 8, not the same as that affecting southern Europe.

There are also hundreds of miles of uninfected territory between the northern and southern outbreaks. The type 8 strain has originated in Africa, but how it travelled north is a mystery.

Now its shadow hangs over the UK, with some of the densest populations of sheep and cattle in the world.

And because the virus is new to Britain, any outbreak could be devastating. The herds are "naïve", unexposed to the virus and with none of the antibodies needed to fight it, and the most susceptible animals have not been selected out as they are in regions where it is endemic.

Hopefully we are going to get some really nasty cold weather, a really bad winter with lots of snow would be perfect

Prof Peter Mertens

But there is cause for optimism, Prof Mertens suggests.

"The only thing saving us from bluetongue is our climate. There is hope. If we start having frost, it will kill off the majority of adult midges. A few good frosts will really bring the midge season to an end. When that happens it's the end of transmission."

Beneath 15C the virus cannot replicate.

"That is why the warm temperatures in northern Europe were so important - they allowed it to get well established."

And the disease is now established in the Low Countries and Germany and increasingly in France. After outbreaks last summer, the disease has returned with greater intensity this year.

And in that return lies the concern for the UK should there be a full outbreak.

Despite the seasonal death of midges, the disease somehow returns the next year, a process known as "overwintering".

"We don't yet know how it does this, hides away somewhere when the conditions are right, when the midges come back so does the virus," says Prof Mertens.

'Killed' vaccine

There is no vaccine usable in Britain currently on the market. In South Africa where the disease has been endemic, a "live" vaccine has been used, but when a similar technique was used in Italy it prompted at least one outbreak.

Such a vaccine would also kill British sheep. A "killed" vaccine is being developed by Meriel, who have facilities at Pirbright, and is predicted to be ready by the new year.

An alternative approach was used in Greece where infected animals were killed and insecticide was used widely to control the midge populations. After four years the country was clear of the disease.

The likely culprits, a midge from the Culicoides obsoletus or pulicaris groups, could be attacked with targeted attacks on dungheaps and other breeding areas, Prof Mertens said.

But ultimately the best defence remains the weather.

"Hopefully we are going to get some really nasty cold weather, a really bad winter with lots of snow would be perfect."

world elite
24-09-2007, 12:25 AM
Have a read of these links note the date on the BBC site 29th July 2007 almost two months before Bluetongue started here in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/6921173.stm

http://ec.europa.eu/food/animal/diseases/controlmeasures/bluetongue_en.htm

hagbard_celine
24-09-2007, 01:26 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Blue Tongue Disease! What's the next thing these laboratories will come up with? Pink Ear Disease!? How could we live without all these horrible new diseases lurking round the corner. If they didn't exist I swear we'd have to invent them!:eek:

Who thinks it's a bit too much of a coincidence that this has emerged so soon after the recent foot-and-mouth outbreak?

notaslave
24-09-2007, 02:06 PM
You can just tell these are man-made diseases ... it would never co-ordinate with the green blood that man had a few months back!! :p

ooparticleoo
25-09-2007, 09:10 AM
What concerns me the most is the incidence of these "outbreaks" seems

disproportionally concentrated around RARE BREEDS

My personal opinion is the infections are deliberate ......

you can decide for yourself what the motive may be :rolleyes:

shodan
25-09-2007, 04:42 PM
I reckon they are destroying all alternative food sources, they've already decimated Fish and crops.

lightbeing
25-09-2007, 04:47 PM
I seem to get a deep purple coloured tongue on Saturday nights, but this could be to do with the bottle of red wine I drink?!;):D:D