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garyhartill
01-02-2010, 11:11 PM
://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6613938246449800148&ei=uvNmS9bzCtOv-Abu1-z0Cg&q=alternative+views+dvd#

dont know if any one has seen this vid, , it is dr peter taylor at the alternative view conference in uk and he gives a very good scientific explanation to why the earth heats & cools , in fact he makes a reference to the fact because there is a period of solar stillness from the sun that carbon dioxide will help , yes help the planet stay warm as it will cool during the sun stillness which i found facinating :) sorry can not get the link to work but google alternative view in video look for peter taylor

lakkimakki
01-02-2010, 11:25 PM
watching right now , but i must say hes not a human being , he looks not normal same with nikola tesla ....

garyhartill
03-02-2010, 10:30 AM
:D thinkin bout it he does look different lol :eek: but what he talks bout makes sence even though it was hard work to watch in parts

jesuitsdidit
03-02-2010, 11:40 PM
link

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6613938246449800148&ei=GwlqS-HHJZiQ-AaKnoC8BQ&q=alternative+view+conference&hl=en#

enhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6613938246449800148&ei=GwlqS-HHJZiQ-AaKnoC8BQ&q=alternative+view+conference&hl=en#

paolo
04-02-2010, 12:30 AM
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6613938246449800148&ei=uvNmS9bzCtOv-Abu1-z0Cg&q=alternative+views+dvd#
for anyone finding difficulty

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 01:03 AM
from 1.02 to 1.04
he talks about the sun's 13000 yr cycle
and how 13k yrs ago there was a huge wave of cosmic dust that wiped out 80% of mammals in n. hemisphere
and he has been told it may come again soon

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 01:13 AM
Peter Taylor presents Climate Change: The Alternative View
Watch this video on video.google.co.uk
1:16:35 - 1 year ago

Peter Taylor is a renowned conservationist and research analyst. Among his many achievements, he has previously taken successful action in challenging the UN to alter it's stance and policy regarding dumping of hazardous materials into the ocean (in other words, he cares about the environment and his research is credible). In this presentation, made at the Alternative View Conference Totnes UK 2008, he explains the conclusions of his detailed studies which indicate man is not responsible for global warming/climate change, and many of the 'solutions' based on this lie are the real threat we are facing (he's not funded by oil companies). Peter Taylor's website is ethos-uk.com To order the DVD and others, visit IanRCrane.co.uk Uploaded by the Christian Coalition for Halting the Agenda of the Nefarious Global Elite changeaustralia@yahoo.com.au wearechange.org

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 01:15 AM
at 1.07.00
he says most major scientists know global warming is BS..

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 01:29 AM
this was alt view conference 09
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http://www.avfour.co.uk/index.php

av '10

Where and When

The Alternative View 4 is being held on the 26th, 27th and 28th March 2010 at the Thistle Grand Hotel, Heathrow, located just 5 minutes from Terminal 5. The full address is:

Thistle London Heathrow
Bath Road,
Longford
UB7 0EQ
UK

The Alternative View is more than a Conference ... it's a Community!

Meet and share your thoughts amongst the increasing number of people who realise that the world and humanity are in a process of scientific, political & spiritual transition.

As a three day residential conference, registrations begin at 5.00pm on the Friday, with the speakers and entertainment beginning at 7.30pm. Alongside our speakers, throughout the weekend you will have access to our Alternative Market, as well as a full programme of Workshops, allowing you a choice of activities. There will also be events and happenings every evening, right up until the early hours of Monday morning – allowing you plenty of time to network and make your own journey of discovery.

GO PREMIUM: Enjoy seats in the front rows, relax in a designated Lounge Area and join the speakers for cocktails & dinner - CLICK HERE TO GO PREMIUM


Why The Thistle Hotel at London Heathrow?

* Outstanding Conference Facilities
* Friendly and supportive Management & Staff
* Good Bar & Restaurant Facilities
* Central Location
* Good Parking Facilities (£15 for duration of Conference - must be reserved in advance)
* Easily Accessible by Road and Public Transport
* Just a 15 minute (£4) Hopper Bus ride away from all Heathrow Terminals There is also a FREE bus service - number 423 - that runs regularly from Heathrow Terminal 5


Car Parking at the Conference Hotel

Usually £8.00 per vehicle for 24 hours, but grab a special 3 night rate of just £15.00 for arriving Friday 26th March and departing Monday 30th March 2010!

RESERVE YOUR PARKING SPACE BY TICKING THE RELEVANT BOX WHEN YOU BOOK.


Some Things You Might Like to Know

* Great Bar Prices for London: Draught Beer from £ 2.80 a pint, Draught Lager from £2.90 a pint, Cider from £3.50 a pint, Wine from £2.50 a 175ml glass or £10.00 for a 750ml bottle..
* All Tea/Coffee served is Fair Trade, with decaffeinated options available, as well as Roiboosh Tea and Soya Milk.
* All Breakfasts will be sourced from organic ingredients wherever possible.
* Lunch and Dinner Menus will include organic options.
* Edge Media Television to be available in most bedrooms.
* Health Club and Swimming pool nearby for all conference hotel residents at a charge of just £7.50 per day per resident.
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The Alternative View

To advance awareness and facilitate discussion of Political, Scientific and Spiritual alternatives without constraint by Consensus Reality and/or Received Wisdom

Mankind is at a fork in the road. Ahead, potentially, is an Orwellian nightmare, or an opportunity to participate in creating a new beginning for our world.

There is a co-ordinated effort by our world leaders (elected and unelected), with the willing help of a corporate controlled mass media, to use manufactured global crises to create what they term a ‘New World Order’. You’ve heard that term in the media, indeed Gordon Brown uses the phrase with alarming regularity, but what does it mean? Simply this: A global super state, controlled by a World Government, policed by a World Army, with a single World Currency… and a single world Religion!

There is, however, an Alternative View. An alternative which will be mapped out at ‘AV4’, after we have shown our delegates - through well researched evidence and facts - what is really going on around us.

The Alternative View is not just an event, it’s a Community. Our aim is to facilitate a community of shared values which supports, nurtures and encourages an alternative sustainable existence. An existence that does not differentiate between race or creed but which is founded upon mutual respect, understanding and support.

If you are visiting this website, you probably already know that something is not quite right in how events are being portrayed. This conference is all-encompassing; only by joining us from Friday evening until the early hours of Monday morning will you see the entire ‘Big Picture’ unfolding in front of you.

Due to limits in numbers we can cater for, we are initially ONLY making full weekend tickets available – this is to ensure that our ‘Early Bird’ delegates get the opportunity to secure the on-site accommodation for the weekend. With prices starting from just £35.00 per person per night*, it’s an offer you simply cannot miss!

*Based on a Bed & Breakfast package for three nights, when you share a Double or Twin Bed room – incredible value for a 4 Star London hotel!
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AV4 Premium Ticket
£169.00
Early Bird Price £149.00

AV4 Standard Ticket
£109.00
Early Bird Price £99.00


Alternatively tickets are available on 0207 558 8869

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 01:38 AM
http://www.avfour.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=10


Alternative View 4 Speakers

David BellamyProfessor David Bellamy

Tales from a "Fallen" Icon

Take heart Earth's climate has remained within the limits tolerated by life, for several billion years.

During this time the planet has experienced unimaginable volcanic events which liberated huge amounts of CO2, we have collided with extraterrestrial objects which triggered either increase or decrease of temperature and even the energy flow from the sun has altered over such a span of geological time.

And yet here we are! Life remains. The global temperature is well within life's limits - indeed the present-day is cooler than much of previous geological time.

SO WHO HAS BEEN CONNING WHOM?

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Johnny BallJohnny Ball

Politicised Science - Brainwashing our Young

"Climate change" propaganda is turning many kids into militant save-the-earth pests at home.

The global warming movement has taken a decidedly sinister turn.

Not content with scaring moms and dads with tales of a coming global warming apocalypse, the true believers in human-caused climate change have taken their controversial doomsday message into the classroom and onto the Internet, polluting impressionable kids with green propaganda and creating youth legions of enviro-fanatics.

Fresh from their daily “greenwashing” sessions at school, these save-the-earth converts arrive home as little inspector generals, haranguing parents for exhibiting environmentally insensitive behaviour and contributing to the planet’s looming CO2 overdose.

The young Greenites, already pre-conditioned by classroom propaganda, are subjected to the same man-is-destroying-the-earth homilies on the Internet. The eco-epistles consist of the usual heart-tugging climate scare stories (e.g. polar bears are dying and ice caps are melting), which conveniently fail to mention that the earth has warmed – and cooled – naturally for billions of years and that CO2 is a life-giving atmospheric gas.

In the dark and depressing world of quasi-religious eco-fanatics, there is no room for the light of truth in their save-the-earth evangelism … and kids are easy targets.

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Peter TaylorPeter Taylor

Climate Change in an Age of Deception

What do the financial crisis and global warming have in common? They are both consequences of a computer-generated virtual reality and both the financial world and climate science have been rocked by revelations of fabricated data and wide-scale deception.

The world of 'global warming' relies entirely upon computer models isolating a signal from natural fluctuations and cycles and thus places enormous power to influence the world's investment strategies in the hands of a few computer specialists and their fellow-travellers.

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William EngdahlF. William Engdahl

Seeds of Destruction

If you want to learn why biotech corporations insist on spreading GMO seeds around the World you need to hear this presentation. You will learn how these corporations want to achieve control over all mankind, and why we must resist.

The GMO saga is like a murder mystery of an incredible dimension, in which four giant Anglo-American agri-business conglomerates have no hesitation to use GMO to gain control over our very means of subsistence.

In this talk, William will focus on how an element of the socio-political American elite seeks to establish its control over the very basis of human survival, the provision of our daily bread. Indeed the agenda was laid bare by Henry Kissinger in 1970, when he said, “Control the oil and you control nations … control the food and you control the people.”

This is no ordinary presentation about the perils of GMO. Engdahl will take you inside the corridors of power, into the backrooms of the science labs, behind closed doors in the corporate boardrooms; revealing a World of profit-driven political intrigue, government corruption and coercion, where genetic manipulation and the patenting of life forms are used to gain worldwide control over food production. This presentation will be a real eye-opener, an absolute ‘must see’ for all those committed to the causes of social justice and World peace.

Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order

In his second AV4 presentation F. William Engdahl discusses America’s grand strategy, first revealed in the 1998 US Space Command document, ‘Vision for 2020’. A grand strategy that called for “Full Spectrum Dominance” over all land, surface and sub-surface sea, air, space, electromagnetic spectrum and information systems with enough overwhelming power to fight and win global wars against any adversary, including the pre-emptive use of nuclear weapons.

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Daniel EstulinDaniel Estulin

The Bilderbergers

Delving into a world once shrouded in complete mystery and impenetrable security, Daniel Estulin provides a fascinating account of the annual meetings of the worlds most powerful people, the Bilderberg Group.

Since its inception in 1954 at the Bilderberg Hotel in the small Dutch town of Oosterbeek, the Bilderberg Group has been comprised of European prime ministers, American presidents, and the wealthiest CEOs of the world, all coming together to discuss the economic and political future of humanity.

At the centre of the global financial system are the financial oligarchy today represented by the Bilderberg Group. The idea behind each and every Bilderberg conference is to create the aristocracy of purpose between European and North American elites on the best way to manage the planet.

The press has never been allowed to attend, nor have statements ever been released on the attendees' conclusions or discussions, which have ramifications on the citizens of the world. Using methods that resemble the spy tactics of the Cold War, and in several instances putting his own life on the line, Daniel has done what no one else has managed to achieve: he has learned what was being said behind the closed doors of the opulent hotels and has made it available to the public.

The Shadow Masters - Real Global Terrorists

In The Shadow Masters, Daniel Estulin will examine how behind-the-scenes collaboration between government, intelligence services, and drug traffickers has lined the pockets of big business and Western banks.

Among the examples cited are the cozy relationship between Victor Bout, the largest weapons dealer in the world, and George Bush's administration; the NGOs who are plundering Darfur with the help of big multi-nationals seeking to take over the oilfields around the country.

Daniel will also discuss the ties between the Muslim Brotherhood and the White House; and the embezzlement of more than $2.8 million from the International Monetary Fund by Roman Abramovich, the biggest oligarch in Russia … and owner of Chelsea Football Club.

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Scott TipsScott Tips

Codex Alimentarius - Corporate Controlled ‘Health’

Scott's presentation will reveal not only the inner structure and mechanics of Codex Alimentarius and its meetings but also the 'why' of Codex.

* Why is Codex seeking to restrict the quality and potency of vitamins and minerals?
* Why is Codex applying a toxicological regulatory model to foods that have been a part of the human diet for millennia?


Equally important, are there alternatives to the medical monopoly that drowns everyone in drugs and doctors who maim and kill more than they help?

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Dr Manjir Samanta-Laughton

The Genius Groove: The New Science of Creativity

In 2006 with the publication of her ground-breaking book, Punk Science, Dr Manjir Samanta-Laughton revealed a new theory of everything that places black holes at the creative centre of an ever evolving, fractal universe. Since then, the world of mainstream physics has started to catch up - making the realization that black holes are not the great guzzling monsters that we once thought they were and Manjir's work has been re-examined by mainstream universities with Punk Science becoming an amazon bestseller and translated into several languages.

In this presentation she brings her theory right up to date revealing:

# The Black Hole Principle - why black holes are the creative centre of a fractal universe - an assertion which is backed up by the latest cosmological data
# Why the Big Bang Theory is a myth
# How Faster than Light Physics is essential to understanding the Conscious Universe
# A new view of the galactic alignments discussed in association with 2012 and what the prophecies of the Maya could truly mean
# The implications of the Black Hole Principle for the history of the planet linking ancient Gnostic knowledge with cutting-edge astrophysics
# How Black Holes can give us a new science behind climate change

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Brian GerrishBrian Gerrish

Political Ponerology – Confronting Evil – Turning the Tide

Following his disturbing expose of British Social Services and the secretive Family Courts system at AV3, Brian Gerrish was asked, “Who are these people?”

The questioner wanted to know ‘who’ is driving the horrible events that we are seeing unfold around us... illegal wars, breakdown of society, child-snatching, fraud, police states, propaganda, corruption and political lies... to name just a few of the symptoms.

Brian responded by saying that "They" are people who are not like us. They have no conscience, morals or human kindness. In the worst case they cannot even understand individuals who have these ‘weak’ characteristics.

Some are just ordinary people who have been ‘reframed’ but to understand more, we must study and challenge the presence of evil in our society and we must address the increasingly overt manifestation of evil in supposedly democratic politics.

However, confronting a network of evil can be tough. Many people would rather turn away.

In his AV4 presentation Brian Gerrish will pose the tough questions and put forward some much needed suggestions.

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Deek JacksonDeek Jackson

The Landless Peasant Party

In the forthcoming General Election Deek Jackson will be standing against Gordon Brown in his Fife constituency, as a representative of The Landless Peasant Party.

The wealth of our nation is owned by a tiny fraction of our population. The UK has 60 million acres of land - 70% of this is owned by 1% of the population.

Just 6,000 or so landowners -- mostly aristocrats, own about 40 million acres, two thirds of the UK.

60 million people live in 24 million "dwellings, these 24 million dwellings sit on approx 4.4 million acres (7.7% of the land). The imbalance of land and wealth ownership is repeated all over the world.

As far as we know there is only one planet that supports life in the entire Universe. We destroy large parts of it to make money for people who already have unimaginable wealth... are we that stupid, are we the pets of some small group of wealthy families or our we able to look after ourselves?

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Ian R CraneIan R Crane

History Cannot Be Permanently Falsified

" ...history cannot be permanently falsified; the myth cannot stand up to the scrutiny of research; the sinister web will be brought into the light and torn to pieces, however artfully it has been spun."

Dr Jakob Ruchti – 1915

Rudolf Steiner introduced this quote in a series of lectures he gave in 1917, during which he exposed the Machiavellian machinations which brought about the First World War. This series of lectures was later published as ‘The Karma of Untruthfulness’.

2010 marks the 5th anniversary of the 7/7 London Bombings and ninth anniversary of 9/11. Despite the increasing public awareness of anomalies between the physical evidence and the official explanations, these events are still being held up as the primary drivers for the aggressive agenda being perpetrated by the US/UK alliance.

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garyhartill
04-02-2010, 09:31 AM
wow thanks for all that info jes:)

amaralsright
04-02-2010, 10:06 AM
Good post.

the apprentice
04-02-2010, 11:49 AM
watching right now , but i must say hes not a human being , he looks not normal same with nikola tesla ....

I think what we are seeing is a man who has been through the fast lanes of life and one that now wants what many today are looking for, an inner peace away from the modernistic world, he looks different because he is different and easier to single out, he probably thinks the same about us and see's what we don't see comming, as a climate scientist he has many viable observations but his science has not yet been proven, hense the words a litle bit of scienCe can be dangerous, however hiS methods and findingS about the materialistc world and its money is spot on.

redsky
04-02-2010, 12:58 PM
http://www.avfour.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=10


"Climate change" propaganda is turning many kids into militant save-the-earth pests at home.

The global warming movement has taken a decidedly sinister turn.

Not content with scaring moms and dads with tales of a coming global warming apocalypse, the true believers in human-caused climate change have taken their controversial doomsday message into the classroom and onto the Internet, polluting impressionable kids with green propaganda and creating youth legions of enviro-fanatics.

Fresh from their daily “greenwashing” sessions at school, these save-the-earth converts arrive home as little inspector generals, haranguing parents for exhibiting environmentally insensitive behaviour and contributing to the planet’s looming CO2 overdose.

The young Greenites, already pre-conditioned by classroom propaganda, are subjected to the same man-is-destroying-the-earth homilies on the Internet. The eco-epistles consist of the usual heart-tugging climate scare stories (e.g. polar bears are dying and ice caps are melting), which conveniently fail to mention that the earth has warmed – and cooled – naturally for billions of years and that CO2 is a life-giving atmospheric gas.



Just reading & watching what's on this thread & I can't help but think what Johnny Ball saying here reminds me of a scene in Orwells 1984film when effectively some blokes kids are spouting the party line & eventually grass him up to Big Brother.

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 02:07 PM
at 47.20 he says arctic ice melting due to alaskan weather systems
i wonder if HAARP is really there to melt ice cap??

the only thing i find confusing, in what otherwise appears to be an excellent lecture, is that he doesnt mention that there is a well established cycle of 90k yr ice ages followed by 10k yr inter-glacials
he even shows the chart demonstrating this from the Antarctic Ice Data at 1.05.30 when he talks of harmonics
BUT HE DOESNT MENTION THE BIG THING
-every 100k yrs there is a 90k yr ice age
and most opinions concur we r now entering the next ice age having been in an inter-glacial for the past 10k yrs
and given how knowledgeable he appears to be, he of all ppl shd know this
this leads me to question if he's disinfo
im not too sure about av conf either
good speakers mixed with disinfo??

jesuitsdidit
04-02-2010, 02:30 PM
http://www.avfour.co.uk/index.php?act=viewDoc&docId=41


Peter Taylor

Climate Change in an Age of Deception

What do the financial crisis and global warming have in common? They are both consequences of a computer-generated virtual reality and both the financial world and climate science have been rocked by revelations of fabricated data and wide-scale deception.

The world of 'global warming' relies entirely upon computer models isolating a signal from natural fluctuations and cycles and thus places enormous power to influence the world's investment strategies in the hands of a few computer specialists and their fellow-travellers.

Similar power was held by modellers in the derivatives markets. Had Copenhagen been successful, for example, trillions of dollars would have been funnelled into a faceless and unaccountable UN bureaucracy led by the World Bank.

What kind of 'development' would it bring to the 'developing' countries and on whose behalf?

Peter Taylor brings his wide-ranging knowledge of environment and development to address the issues of the camouflaged 'interests' riding upon climate science and the UN's Green New Deal.

This is a talk that needs to be heard by all those still committed to the polticised dogma of AGW … which, co-incidentally, is also the acronym for Al Gore’s Wealth.

Click here for a Daily Mail article on Peter Taylor
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1234515/Copenhagen-climate-change-summit-The-world-COOLING-warming-says-scientist-Peter-Taylor---prepared.html
enhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1234515/Copenhagen-climate-change-summit-The-world-COOLING-warming-says-scientist-Peter-Taylor---prepared.html

Bio

Peter Taylor, author of ‘Shiva’s Rainbow’ and ‘Beyond Conservation’, set up the Oxford based Political Ecology Research Group and was a director from 1978 to 1991. The group provided critical scientific review of a wide range of environmental policy issues. His recent work has focused upon policies relating to climate change, planning, ecosystem restoration, carbon sequestration, and sustainable development.

Review of Peter’s latest book ‘Chill: A Re-assessment of Global Warming Theory’:

Do you believe the earth is warming? Think again, says Peter Taylor, a committed environmental analyst with the unusual gift of following scientific evidence ruthlessly wherever it may lead. Taylor has done groundbreaking work on issues ranging from ocean pollution and biodiversity through renewable energy. Now he turns his relentless searchlight on climate change. His work has the ring of passion and the clarity of intellectual honesty. We can be certain his conclusions are the product of a fearless, unbiased, and intelligent intellectual journey by a remarkable mind, all the marks of genuine science. Taylor challenges us to look beyond our biases to whatever conclusions the evidence may justify. Believers in global warming may not find comfort here, but they will without question find a clear challenge to examine all the evidence objectively. At the very least, Taylor raises issues and questions that must be addressed conclusively before global warming can be genuinely regarded as truth", inconvenient or otherwise. This book is a must-read for everyone on all sides of the climate change issue.'

W. Jackson Davis: professor emeritus, University of California, and author of the first draft of the Kyoto Protocol

Links

Peter's website: www.ethos-uk.com

jesuitsdidit
05-02-2010, 07:12 PM
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Exposing+the+green+world+order:+Steve+Milloy,+the+ founder+of...-a0207112332


Origins of the Green Iron Fist?

Though not mentioned by Milloy, Report from Iron Mountain, published in 1967 as the leaked findings of a private three-year study commissioned by the U.S. government, may shed light on this. The report made shocking recommendations, some of which are now becoming reality. The establishment press denounced the report as a hoax; five years later, the late Leonard C. Lewin proclaimed he had written it as a satire on government think tanks. For a satire, however, it was strangely devoid of humor. Many wonder if the "hoax" charge was issued for damage control.

The study chiefly discussed the implications of the world moving from the system of war--which nuclear weapons were making impractical--to disarmament. The report cited many advantages to war, one of which was allegiance by citizens to their government:

In general, the war system provides
the basic motivation for primary
social motivation. In doing so, it reflects
on the societal level the incentives
of individual human behavior.
The most important of these, for social
purposes, is the individual psychological
rationale for allegiance to
a society [read: government] and its
values. Allegiance requires a cause; a
cause requires an enemy. This much
is obvious; the critical point is that
the enemy that defines the cause must
seem genuinely formidable.



The report noted that if wars disappeared due to the advent of nuclear weapons, a new "enemy" would be required to induce citizen allegiance. Among the solutions proposed were threats to the environment:

Nevertheless, an effective political
substitute for war would require
"alternate enemies," some of which
might seem equally farfetched in the
context of the current war system. It
may be, for instance, that gross pollution
of the environment can eventually
replace the possibility of mass
destruction by nuclear weapons as
the principal apparent threat to the
survival of the species. Poisoning of
the air, and of the principal sources of
food and water supply, is already well
advanced, and at first glance would
seem promising in this respect; it
constitutes a threat that can be dealt
with only through social organization
and political power. But from present
indications it will be a generation to
a generation and a half before environmental
pollution, however severe,
will be sufficiently menacing, on a
global scale, to offer a possible basis
for a solution.

It is true that the rate of pollution
could be increased selectively for this
purpose; in fact, the mere modifying
of existing programs for the deterrence
of pollution could speed up the
process enough to make the threat
credible much sooner.
...