Do space aliens use money?

[Anders Lindman]

ETs who are on the same level of development as our human civilization most likely use money. More advanced ETs however probably don't use money. Jesus Christ said that money is evil [EDIT: Well, Jesus maybe didn't say money was evil but he at least said that you cannot serve both God and money]. Advanced ETs probably say that money sucks. Advanced ETs have all the resources they want I think. If they need more resources, they can simply zap a new planet into existence in a fraction of a second using advanced (post-singularity) technology.

But if advanced ETs don't use money, how will we be able to do business with them?

[mara]

how will we be able to do business with them?
Are you a space entrepreneur? :D

What kind of business do you want to do with them?

I guess we can exchange our energy for their energy, or knowledge for knowledge...:rolleyes:

[Anders Lindman]

Are you a space entrepreneur? :D

What kind of business do you want to do with them?

I guess we can exchange our energy for their energy, or knowledge for knowledge...:rolleyes:

Space entrepreneur, that would be cool. :D I was thinking about how our human civilization can cooperate with extraterrestrial civilizations. And it will at first be advanced ET civilizations, since only they would be able to travel or teleport over interstellar distances.

How advanced? The trick is that the development of a civilization (and evolution as a whole) is exponential! The difference between linear and exponential is at first not so large, but after a while the difference becomes huge and then ridiculously large. If we take 30 steps linearly; 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... then we get to 30. If we take 30 steps exponentially; 1, 2, 4, 8, 16... we get to a billion!

This exponential curve can be seen in biological evolution during billions of years, and also in social development through thousands of years, but it is most directly noticeable in the progress of technology. The technological development reaches a point where the progress starts to go almost infinitely fast. This is called a technological singularity. Our human civilization will reach a singularity within only a few decades scientists estimate.

Because of this exponential progress, to say that for example one civilization is 1000 years ahead of another civilization is a bit misleading. 1000 years for a hunter-gatherer society doesn't mean much change, while 1000 years for a civilization that has reached the industrial age means a lot more change. Therefore it can be more useful to divide civilizations into pre- and post-singularity stages. A pre-singularity civilization has not yet reached a technological singularity, while a post-singularity civilization has reached and gone beyond it. Our own human civilization is at the moment a pre-singularity civilization.

So what I mean by advanced ETs is a post-singularity civilization. Which means that they have technologies that are almost infinitely advanced down into a subatomic scale! What we think of as magic, like creating matter out of 'empty' space for example, is a piece a cake for them.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke

How can we do business with a post-singularity civilization? :confused: Maybe they DO want money, to use here on Earth! Even with their advanced technologies, they would have to use ordinary money if they want to interact with our societies without exposing themselves. And they can't create their own money to use here on Earth, such as creating dollar bills, because that would be unethical.

[gonzo75]

ETs who are on the same level of development as our human civilization most likely use money. More advanced ETs however probably don't use money. Jesus Christ said that money is evil [EDIT: Well, Jesus maybe didn't say money was evil but he at least said that you cannot serve both God and money]. Advanced ETs probably say that money sucks. Advanced ETs have all the resources they want I think. If they need more resources, they can simply zap a new planet into existence in a fraction of a second using advanced (post-singularity) technology.

But if advanced ETs don't use money, how will we be able to do business with them?

southpark space cash remix by razimus - YouTube

Check out the 'pinewood derby' episode of southpark (season 13 ep 6).
It deals with this topic extensively...................as only sp can!!:)

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVAZZkChMGo

Check out the 'pinewood derby' episode of southpark (season 13 ep 6).
It deals with this topic extensively...................as only sp can!!:)

Excellent! :D Space cash. Maybe the shadow governments here on Earth use that. Shady business deals with space aliens.

[gonzo75]

Excellent! :D Space cash. Maybe the shadow governments here on Earth use that. Shady business deals with space aliens.

Anything is possible Anders, and when it comes to our so called governments, anything is also probable.:)

[Anders Lindman]

Anything is possible Anders, and when it comes to our so called governments, anything is also probable.:)

And some people say that the shadow government has technology that is much more advanced than in the public market. I think that's true. But I still believe even the shadow government and black-ops have pre-singularity technology. Or, if they do have post-singularity technology, then that technology in itself has rules built into it, so that what they can do with it is limited.

[Anders Lindman]

Money is a burden. To earn money is a burden. To save money is a burden. To manage money is a burden. To protect money is a burden. Even to use money is a burden.

Therefore, money sucks big time. If advanced space aliens use money, then they have probably outsourced the burdensome aspects of money to automated processes.

[Anders Lindman]

I believe the future of humanity is to be free from the heavy yoke of money. Jesus Christ talked about that. I don't know if the actual Jesus even existed/exists, but he sure was waaaay ahead of his time.

Today we have machines to do much of the heavy labor for us. The problem is that what we are still working on is building a huge pyramid: the money pyramid. Think about what immense amounts of effort and time we humans spend on keeping that pyramid erect.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Illuminati/occult-dollar_pyramid.gif

We still today serve money, more than ever. We are frantically struggling to support the money pyramid. We have become like batteries in a huge money Matrix.

http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/200907/matrix_battery_5FD6E5EB-99FE-7577-2962BD6F20CAD053.jpg

Neo: The Matrix.

Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?

Neo: Yes.

Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.

[nimlyn]

Finger-print credit.

[Anders Lindman]

Finger-print credit.

Or implanted microchips. :eek:

The world's monetary pyramid is becoming more and more centralized. That could be nasty leading to microchips and things like that. Or, it could be a useful thing needed if we want to integrate our money with ETs' money.

The money pyramid needs to be preserved. To have it collapse would have catastrophic consequences. At the same time, the money system/pyramid we have today is incredibly oppressive for most people. That needs to change. Money needs to become psychologically much 'lighter'.

[jamesc]

My mind was made up on the money system after i watched Ickes vid on "what is money", biggest manipulated con that was skilfully manipulated into human affairs.Breading ground for grand legalised theft, wars and outright control through poverty and taxation, financial slavery for life for the majority of people by the very few who control the real interest rates and distrepution of wealth.:cool:

[Anders Lindman]

My mind was made up on the money system after i watched Ickes vid on "what is money", biggest manipulated con that was skilfully manipulated into human affairs.Breading ground for grand legalised theft, wars and outright control through poverty and taxation, financial slavery for life for the majority of people by the very few who control the real interest rates and distrepution of wealth.:cool:

I recently watched a video where David Icke talked about the monetary system. The videos Money as Debt 1 and 2 are good too.

Fractional reserve banking creates an expanding black hole of debt that is growing faster than it can be filled. I'm not saying that the system is all bad. It serves a purpose of holding society together, but it sure is one heck of an oppressive system that can't go on forever. We see today that the central banks are pumping new money out of thin air into the system. So the money pyramid is already in dire straits me thinks.

Money is like the blood flow in the society. What we have now is similar to a cardiovascular disease in a human body, where the money becomes clogged up, and they need to pump huge amounts of new money into the system to keep it flowing. For money to work properly it needs to flow with less friction.

Astronomers recently discovered an earth-like planet, and the Kepler space telescope will probably find many more such planets. And astronomers estimate that there are trillions of planets in our galaxy the Milky Way alone! And there are billions maybe trillions of galaxies in the universe.

To think that our planet is the only one in the entire universe with a civilization seems like incredible hubris to me. Similar to what people believed hundreds of years ago when they thought that Earth was the center of the universe.

No doubt many other civilizations exist out there, and some more advanced than ours. Some civilizations must have gone through what we are going through here on Earth right now. I wonder how they made the transition from a money pyramid to a less oppressive system, because I strongly believe some of the ET civilizations have done that.

[stopthemadness]

They trade in Sweets and Ups.

I'm sure someone on this board understands what this means.

[Anders Lindman]

Imagine grown up people fighting over a piece of rock out of greed. Like children! Incredible, isn't it? That's actually what some humans do. Money makes people mentally retarded:

"Space rock worth thousands stirs ownership debate

WASHINGTON – An out-of-this world rock has become the center of a down-to-earth dispute over who its rightful owner should be.

The tennis ball-sized meteorite plummeted through the roof of a Virginia medical office just after dusk on Jan. 18, the same time as people reported seeing a fireball in the sky. It plunged through the ceiling of an examination room and landed near the spot where a doctor had been sitting a short while earlier.

"I'm the most likely person to be sitting in that place where it hit," Dr. Marc Gallini said. "It just wasn't my time, I guess."

He and fellow practitioner Dr. Frank Ciampi say their first thought was to give the rare find to the Smithsonian Institution, which offered $5,000 for it. Within days, it was sent to the National Museum of Natural History for safekeeping.

The doctors are worried, though, that their longtime landlords plan to stake their own claim to the space rock. The collectors market for meteorites can be lucrative."

Full story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_space_rock_dispute

[jamesc]

They trade in Sweets and Ups.

I'm sure someone on this board understands what this means.

Drugs by any chance:cool:

[jamesc]

I recently watched a video where David Icke talked about the monetary system. The videos Money as Debt 1 and 2 are good too.

Fractional reserve banking creates an expanding black hole of debt that is growing faster than it can be filled. I'm not saying that the system is all bad. It serves a purpose of holding society together, but it sure is one heck of an oppressive system that can't go on forever. We see today that the central banks are pumping new money out of thin air into the system. So the money pyramid is already in dire straits me thinks.

Money is like the blood flow in the society. What we have now is similar to a cardiovascular disease in a human body, where the money becomes clogged up, and they need to pump huge amounts of new money into the system to keep it flowing. For money to work properly it needs to flow with less friction.

Astronomers recently discovered an earth-like planet, and the Kepler space telescope will probably find many more such planets. And astronomers estimate that there are trillions of planets in our galaxy the Milky Way alone! And there are billions maybe trillions of galaxies in the universe.

To think that our planet is the only one in the entire universe with a civilization seems like incredible hubris to me. Similar to what people believed hundreds of years ago when they thought that Earth was the center of the universe.

No doubt many other civilizations exist out there, and some more advanced than ours. Some civilizations must have gone through what we are going through here on Earth right now. I wonder how they made the transition from a money pyramid to a less oppressive system, because I strongly believe some of the ET civilizations have done that.

Yes i see your points but as usual we can speculate on the implications or ways out of a system that requires numbers printed on a computer screen to maintain a level of stability for humanity.I do remember reading off a person who claimed to have had a contact and this entity said that "we do not have the system you call money, everything is provided for us by our elders, we receive what we need because our perception of our need is not the same or based on your perceptions of physical needs".:eek::confused:A whole new perception and attitude based on wanton greed and desire of physical things is needed before real perception of need is understood.:cool:

[hirona]

From what I’ve read, a lot of highly evolved civilizations and entities do not need money system to operate their society. Instead, they share and give everyone whatever they need. They store food (If they consume any) and material in a public place, anybody can walk in and take whatever they need. Due to their highly evolved consciousness, they do things to benefit others more than to themselves; therefore, there is no greed, jealousy, hatred, ignorance, and all mental afflictions.

They serve others and getting help from others as well. Some of them have to go through over 100 years (Human years) to study all knowledge of the civilization before they decide what they want to do to serve others.

I personally believe that the money system is created with greed by some ruler mindset (Slavery agenda from extraterrestrials?), and then pass on through generations by human rulers, kings, and elites. A tool of slavery, control, and manipulation it is.

It is scary to think about the slavering concept spreading among human race, (US of A and others) and how this mindset and tradition could be passing on to human race. (According to my understanding, it was possibly originated from ancient malevolent extraterrestrial visitations, Reptilians [+Grays] or Anunnakis perhaps?)

My 2 cents.

[jamesc]

From what I’ve read, a lot of highly evolved civilizations and entities do not need money system to operate their society. Instead, they share and give everyone whatever they need. They store food (If they consume any) and material in a public place, anybody can walk in and take whatever they need. Due to their highly evolved consciousness, they do things to benefit others more than to themselves; therefore, there is no greed, jealousy, hatred, ignorance, and all mental afflictions.

They serve others and getting help from others as well. Some of them have to go through over 100 years (Human years) to study all knowledge of the civilization before they decide what they want to do to serve others.

I personally believe that the money system is created with greed by some ruler mindset (Slavery agenda from extraterrestrials?), and then pass on through generations by human rulers, kings, and elites. A tool of slavery, control, and manipulation it is.

It is scary to think about the slavering concept spreading among human race, (US of A and others) and how this mindset and tradition could be passing on to human race. (According to my understanding, it was possibly originated from ancient malevolent extraterrestrial visitations, Reptilians [+Grays] or Anunnakis perhaps?)

My 2 cents.

And why not, perceptions come in many forms in the mind and as we all know its the perception first that manipulates or controls the finale beliefs that effect attitudes and intellectual thinking.What kind of manipulation was manipulating the perceptions of these ancient rulers and kings of Babylon and Summeriain cultures.The nights Templers where the first to induce "checks", what did they really know of the origins of money.:confused:

[Anders Lindman]

Yes i see your points but as usual we can speculate on the implications or ways out of a system that requires numbers printed on a computer screen to maintain a level of stability for humanity.I do remember reading off a person who claimed to have had a contact and this entity said that "we do not have the system you call money, everything is provided for us by our elders, we receive what we need because our perception of our need is not the same or based on your perceptions of physical needs".:eek::confused:A whole new perception and attitude based on wanton greed and desire of physical things is needed before real perception of need is understood.:cool:

Yes, since money is the basic need for us humans, I think people, including myself, tend to become 'basic' in our thoughts and emotions when it comes to money. So one thing is to learn how our subconscious is programmed in relation to money, such as fundamental fears of survival and wellbeing being a large part of that programming.

The ET who said "provided for us by our elders" I thought of as: "provided for us by our technology". Even in our civilization, technology is already doing much work for us, such as computers making millions of calculations per seconds and machines handling and transporting heavy things. Imagine technology becoming enormously much more advanced, with sub-nanotech and self-improving general artificial intelligence. Such technology would be able to solve virtually all scarcity problems very easily.

The curious thing is that such advanced technology most certainly already exists! It's just that we humans, at least in the public market, don't have access to it yet. We do research. Re-search, as in searching again! Scientists are merely re-discovering what is already there.

[Anders Lindman]

The ET who said "provided for us by our elders" I thought of as: "provided for us by our technology".

Actually, the term 'elders' and technology could be the same thing! When a civilization reaches a technological singularity, then the progress of technology accelerates into infinity. AND, this has surely already happened a loooong time ago for other civilizations in the universe. And if our universe is 'merely' a recent branch in a huge tree of universes, almost infinitely advanced technology may be older than our universe.

Self-improving general AI could then indeed be a kind of 'elders'.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2539823898_78c45e1d1d.jpg

http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/films/ai/ai-logo.gif

[Anders Lindman]

The 'elders' in action :D:

Jodie Foster's mystical flight (Contact) - YouTube

[hirona]

The 'elders' in action :D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZhvBkrq6rU

Thanks!

Contact is one of my favorites.

My eyes get misty whenever I watch this part....

[jamesc]

Actually, the term 'elders' and technology could be the same thing! When a civilization reaches a technological singularity, then the progress of technology accelerates into infinity. AND, this has surely already happened a loooong time ago for other civilizations in the universe. And if our universe is 'merely' a recent branch in a huge tree of universes, almost infinitely advanced technology may be older than our universe.

Self-improving general AI could then indeed be a kind of 'elders'.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2539823898_78c45e1d1d.jpg

http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/films/ai/ai-logo.gif

Good comparison my friend ,nicely done.Yes elders could be the same in reference to elders.:)

[Anders Lindman]

Thanks!

Contact is one of my favorites.

My eyes get misty whenever I watch this part....

Yeah, that's a great movie. And it shows how big the leap may be between our current civilization and more advanced civilizations. Money is just one part of that. Things like weapons are also a tricky issue. We need to become peaceful as a civilization. Fast! In small moves, of course. ;)

[Anders Lindman]

Good comparison my friend ,nicely done.Yes elders could be the same in reference to elders.:)

Yes, we often think of AI as a horrible threat, like in the Terminator and the Matrix movies. But my guess is that if the AI turns bad, then it would blow itself to Kingdom Kong. To have 'power over' is actually a low-level form of intelligence. Like a Nazi scientist who has a high IQ but is a sociopath. That's a pathological kind of intelligence that is dysfunctional because it is too limited, or too non-integral as Ken Wilber has described it.

[Anders Lindman]

In this video from the Davos World Economic Forum, business leaders talk about how to move forward. I don't know if they walk the talk, but what they say is pretty good. Still, this kind of mainstream business needs to become integrated with how advanced space aliens do 'business':

Davos Annual Meeting 2010 - Business Leadership for the 21st Century - YouTube

[spiraltrance]

But if advanced ETs don't use money, how will we be able to do business with them?

We won't do business with them or more likely they wouldn't do business with us in our current state.

A civilisation that's evolved beyond money probably wouldn't publicly reveal it's presence to civilisation that's in our state as it would only lead to conflict of some sort or other when they refuse to hand over there technology to us because we'd abuse it and use it to gratify our animalistic desires.

[Anders Lindman]

Maybe not today, but sometime in the future, people need to step out of their jobs and let the MACHINES take over!!! :D Today people are treated as production units, almost like batteries like in the Matrix movies. The 'human resources' need to be replaced with 'machine resources'. And that is true for ALL jobs. This doesn't mean that we then will not be able to work. We can still work as much as we want, if we want to. That's the future I see. A future with tremendous freedom, health, prosperity, meaning, quality and enjoyment. Human lifespans of thousands of years or however long you want to live. In whatever body you feel like shapeshifting into each day.

[Anders Lindman]

We won't do business with them or more likely they wouldn't do business with us in our current state.

A civilisation that's evolved beyond money probably wouldn't publicly reveal it's presence to civilisation that's in our state as it would only lead to conflict of some sort or other when they refuse to hand over there technology to us because we'd abuse it and use it to gratify our animalistic desires.

Yes, that's the dilemma I was thinking about. How the heck to integrate our civilization with a post-singularity civilization? :confused: Maybe we have to become a post-singularity civilization ourselves first. That is 'only' a few decades away, but I think that it still is way too long time to wait. I even find waiting for something to happen 2012 frustrating. And that's just some two years from now.

[jamesc]

Maybe not today, but sometime in the future, people need to step out of their jobs and let the MACHINES take over!!! :D Today people are treated as production units, almost like batteries like in the Matrix movies. The 'human resources' need to be replaced with 'machine resources'. And that is true for ALL jobs. This doesn't mean that we then will not be able to work. We can still work as much as we want, if we want to. That's the future I see. A future with tremendous freedom, health, prosperity, meaning, quality and enjoyment. Human lifespans of thousands of years or however long you want to live. In whatever body you feel like shapeshifting into each day.

Will Smith in I ROBOT.Would free up so much time for most people but then again as Icke has pointed out , what better way of stopping masses of the population really having the time to find out things for themselves than keeping them in a slavery 9 to 5 job for most of their lives. Manipulated control in the form of keeping advancements in technology under red tape that could set most people free from the job slavery manipulations.:cool:

[Anders Lindman]

Will Smith in I ROBOT.Would free up so much time for most people but then again as Icke has pointed out , what better way of stopping masses of the population really having the time to find out things for themselves than keeping them in a slavery 9 to 5 job for most of their lives. Manipulated control in the form of keeping advancements in technology under red tape that could set most people free from the job slavery manipulations.:cool:

David Icke has talked about an eggshell around every person. I think that there could also be an eggshell around our whole planet. And that the eggshell is needed until we have developed enough. Like a chick growing inside its eggshell. It comes a time when the chick has grown enough and all the nutrients inside the egg have been consumed, when it needs to peck itself out of the eggshell.

[consciousness]

ETs who are on the same level of development as our human civilization most likely use money. More advanced ETs however probably don't use money. Jesus Christ said that money is evil [EDIT: Well, Jesus maybe didn't say money was evil but he at least said that you cannot serve both God and money]. Advanced ETs probably say that money sucks. Advanced ETs have all the resources they want I think. If they need more resources, they can simply zap a new planet into existence in a fraction of a second using advanced (post-singularity) technology.

But if advanced ETs don't use money, how will we be able to do business with them?

According to Alex Collier (with information handed down to him of course), he has shared that planet earth is the only known planet in the universe, that handles in currency, or has a currency system.

And the races from outer space cannot understand why we do this !!!

[Anders Lindman]

According to Alex Collier (with information handed down to him of course), he has shared that planet earth is the only known planet in the universe, that handles in currency, or has a currency system.

And the races from outer space cannot understand why we do this !!!

I don't think that's correct. I believe pre-singularity civilizations, like our own, use money. And that post-singularity civilizations usually don't use any money.

Civilizations use different things depending on their level of development. A civilization that is 100 years behind of us use horses or similar creatures for transportation. We in our civilization, in the developed world, usually don't use horses for transportation anymore. A civilization that is 100 years ahead of us is a post-singularity civilization that has essentially infinitely advanced technology. They probably use teleportation and things like that.

Jumper Official Movie Trailer - YouTube

[Anders Lindman]

Many people who believe in space aliens see them as a potential threat. My belief is that, sure, pre-singularity civilizations can be very dangerous, just like our own civilization is very dangerous at the moment. But post-singularity civilizations are peaceful, because otherwise they would not have survived the transition from a pre- to the post-singularity state.

It also means that pre-singularity civilizations are run by dangerous people, primitive people, just like our planet today. Therefore we need to move away from the authorities of our world and seek smarter authorities. Not in the sense of fighting or going against our authorities (unless they start to become really Orwellian) but to stop feeding them with more of our energy.

[majorlee]

ETs who are on the same level of development as our human civilization most likely use money. More advanced ETs however probably don't use money. Jesus Christ said that money is evil [EDIT: Well, Jesus maybe didn't say money was evil but he at least said that you cannot serve both God and money]. Advanced ETs probably say that money sucks. Advanced ETs have all the resources they want I think. If they need more resources, they can simply zap a new planet into existence in a fraction of a second using advanced (post-singularity) technology.

But if advanced ETs don't use money, how will we be able to do business with them?


good thread

i guess that with spiritual and technological advancements money would be obsolete

BUT the main issue is of OWNERSHIP too i think

[Anders Lindman]

good thread

i guess that with spiritual and technological advancements money would be obsolete

BUT the main issue is of OWNERSHIP too i think

I have been thinking that real estate for example will have owners, and that some sort of wealth or status is needed to buy or get hold of the attractive areas. Ordinary things like food, tools, jewelry, vehicles etc don't need ownership because those things can simply be zapped in and out of 'empty' space when needed.

But then I started to think about what infinite technology really means. And what Arthur C. Clarke said: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. And that made me think that with sufficiently advanced technology they can zap entire PLANETS into existence within a fraction of a second, so even real estate is essentially limitless.

On Coast to Coast yesterday, a caller talked about creating matter out of empty space, and even about creating planets if I remember correctly. I thought that was very interesting. So the idea is not new.

Here are Clarke's all three laws:

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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But even with infinitely advanced technology, some planets and some real estate on those planets may be considered more valuable than others. So yeah, some form of ownership still could exist. Some ETs, even when advanced, may even LIKE to use money and collect wealth, even if they don't need to, while other ETs don't need to own anything, because they just zap what they need from empty space.

[Anders Lindman]

Here are Clarke's all three laws:

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


Here are some other quotes, this time from Ray Kurzweil:

"Intuition is linear; our imaginations are weak. Even the brightest of us only extrapolate from what we know now; for the most part, we're afraid to really stretch."

"Exponential growth looks like nothing is happening, and then suddenly you get this explosion at the end."

"Evolution moves towards greater complexity, greater elegance, greater knowledge, greater intelligence, greater beauty, greater creativity, and greater levels of subtle attributes such as love. In every monotheistic tradition God is likewise described as all of these qualities, only without limitation: infinite knowledge, infinite intelligence, infinite beauty, infinite creativity, infinite love, and so on. Of course, even the accelerating growth of evolution never achieves an infinite level, but as it explodes exponentially it certainly moves rapidly in that direction. So evolution moves inexorably towards this conception of God, although never quite reaching this ideal. We can regard, therefore, the freeing of our thinking from the severe limitations of its biological form to be an essentially spiritual undertaking."

[Anders Lindman]

Here is a really awesome quote:

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?

And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them." -- Matthew 6:24-32 (New International Version)