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transcendental stallion

31-01-2010, 05:10 PM

Analysis: Lebanon: Conflict circle widens to include Syria

Then, on Tuesday, Defense Minister Ehud Barak noted in a speech that if Israel was forced to fight Syria, "we won´t fear and we´ll defeat them." Why the sudden ministerial loquaciousness?
It may with some justification be asserted that to assume any coordination behind the statements of Israeli ministers is to betray a touching naivete. All the same, the near-simultaneous ministerial recollection of the Syrian threat should be considered in conjunction with the following facts:
Hizbullah has in the last weeks deployed advanced Syrian-made surface- to-surface M-600 missiles on the territory of Lebanon. The missiles, which according to Jane´s Defence Weekly are copies of the Iranian Fateh-110 system, have a range of 250 kilometers and carry a 500-kg warhead.
They bring the entirety of central Israel within Hizbullah´s range. The missiles are precision-guided, meaning that in the event of renewed conflict, Hizbullah would be able to use them to target military facilities or heavily populated areas.
According to Jane´s, the deployment of the M-600s adds to concerns already expressed by Israel at Syrian supplying of the SA-2 air defense system and the SS-N-26 surface-to- sea missile to Hizbullah.
http://www.unitedjerusalem.org/index2.asp?id=1326355

The distance from Beirut to Tel Aviv is 130 miles.
M-600s have a range of 155.3 miles
M-600s carry a 500 Kilograms = 1102.31131 pound warhead

HazBollah is becoming an even more uncontendable foe against israel.:)

flickflack

31-01-2010, 05:38 PM

tinyint

31-01-2010, 05:45 PM

stelios

31-01-2010, 06:52 PM

Any bombs the Syrians or the Lebanese have are like peashooters when compared with the Apartheid State Israel's 200+ nukes and steath bombers and drones and patriot defence systems.
All paid for by the USA taxpayers.

Only when America starts feeding it's poor and homeless and stops sending billions every year to prop up a thoroughly evil and hateful state.
Hopefully the world will impose trade sanctions against Israel.

http://www.bigcampaign.org/images/images_BIG.jpg

icarus

31-01-2010, 06:58 PM

israel would like nothing more than for a genuine missile to take out a block in tel aviv, saves them doing it themselves, preferably one from iran

sadly for them, their enemies have pea shooters, though no doubt israeli spooks are constantly working on arming them with something more interesting

israel is ready and waiting for the excuse it needs to show the world it's real power. it is possibly the third or fourth most powerful military in the world. it's nuclear weaponry has always been beyond any outside over sight, it signs no agreements or treaties in this regard, and no inspectors get anywhere near seeing what it has really developed these past few decades

flickflack

31-01-2010, 07:02 PM

stelios

31-01-2010, 07:05 PM

The state of Israel has never used any nukes in any of their attacks. And we must not forget that in the 1990's, Lebanon fired Katusha-rockets against Israel. And Israel had no way of immediate protection against these kinds of attacks.
Israel is nothing but the victim in this conflict, at least if you think about it as long as I have.

P.S. War against Israel is part of the culture in Lebanon, as it has been revealed by independent news sources.

Hey what planet are you on?
Or are you getting paid to stick up this shit?

http://www.ojaipost.com/end_of_Zionism_equals_peace.jpg

the apprentice

31-01-2010, 07:08 PM

A question for the Jews amongst

What would happen if Lebanon and Palastine etc simply put down all of their weapons, would Israel let them mix and mingle, would they interbreed, we need to ask the question.

transcendental stallion

31-01-2010, 07:12 PM

:rolleyes:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101648 :cool:
I noticed that some time ago also. It was noted by other members that this forum has gained some UNUSUALLYU strong jewish influence. Relocating threads that shed light on jewish/israeli plots. Reptilian, masonic are allowed so long as it doesn't mention jewish members, activists and plots. What happens when they do? The jews PM one another and BOMBARD the thread with lead heavy disinformation as they have done the threads mentioning Haitan organ-theft by Israel and Jewish coirportaions that have raised funds and pocketed the profits. We can see through this madness.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78453

eternal wheel

31-01-2010, 07:16 PM

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:17 PM

eternal wheel

31-01-2010, 07:18 PM

Israel is nothing but the victim in this conflict,
really? how much do they want this time??

the nine

31-01-2010, 07:18 PM

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:20 PM

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:22 PM

tinyint

31-01-2010, 07:22 PM

I noticed that some time ago also. It was noted by other members that this forum has gained some UNUSUALLYU strong jewish influence. Relocating threads that shed light on jewish/israeli plots. Reptilian, masonic are allowed so long as it doesn't mention jewish members, activists and plots. What happens when they do? The jews PM one another and BOMBARD the thread with lead heavy disinformation as they have done the threads mentioning Haitan organ-theft by Israel and Jewish coirportaions that have raised funds and pocketed the profits. We can see through this madness.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78453

Meanwhile the reptiles and masons are just code words in my opinion. ;):D

They tolerate that more or less, since the majority have no clue.

My 2 cents

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:24 PM

I noticed that some time ago also. It was noted by other members that this forum has gained some UNUSUALLYU strong jewish influence. Relocating threads that shed light on jewish/israeli plots. Reptilian, masonic are allowed so long as it doesn't mention jewish members, activists and plots. What happens when they do? The jews PM one another and BOMBARD the thread with lead heavy disinformation as they have done the threads mentioning Haitan organ-theft by Israel and Jewish coirportaions that have raised funds and pocketed the profits. We can see through this madness.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78453

Oh yeah, it's a whole other industry. Zionists are very good at organisation and boycotting. They stick together, probably why the holocaust industry has been so successful.

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:26 PM

*yawn*

except that the jews made most of it up in order to get reparations.
what stalin did to the russians was much more monsterous.
what hitler did to the gypsies was much more monsterous.
the reason no one forgets is because the jews are always ranting at everyone who'll listen about how fekkin' hard done by they are, and how much money they're owed. some people(s) just don't know when to shut the fuck up.

In fact if you look at the different groups who apparantly died under the nazis the jews were a smaller number than most and that's using the fictitious 6 million figure.

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:27 PM

really? how much do they want this time??

LOL! Good one!

the nine

31-01-2010, 07:27 PM

Meanwhile the reptiles and masons are just code words in my opinion. ;):D

They tolerate that more or less, since the majority have no clue.

My 2 cents

I used to think that too, but read 'DMT the spirit molecule' by Rick Strassman md.

the many research volunteers encountered reptiles who feed of their emotions and try to communicate with them..interesting read

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 07:29 PM

Where's flickflack to answer some of this? He was on his own on this one - very unusual. Perhaps he's gone off to contact his other zionist shills to join him in the shilling.

eternal wheel

31-01-2010, 07:32 PM

to join him in the shilling.

or, as we say post decimalisation,

5p.

:D

tinyint

31-01-2010, 07:32 PM

I used to think that too, but read 'DMT the spirit molecule' by Rick Strassman md.

the many research volunteers encountered reptiles who feed of their emotions and try to communicate with them..interesting read

Thanks for that, but I am familiar with the other half of the 'code words' as well, with the spirit molecule too.

I simply don't really buy into reptile as a pysical 3d entity. ;):cool:

flickflack

31-01-2010, 07:52 PM

Where's flickflack to answer some of this? He was on his own on this one - very unusual. Perhaps he's gone off to contact his other zionist shills to join him in the shilling.

This is not the first time I have been on my own in the News section, defending Israel by the premise that I criticize Lebanon. War against Israel is part of the culture there, and that is a proven fact.

tinyint

31-01-2010, 07:56 PM

This is not the first time I have been on my own in the News section, defending Israel by the premise that I criticize Lebanon. War against Israel is part of the culture there, and that is a proven fact.

You never asked why that bhave become part of the culture there? :rolleyes:

Sad thing it comes to this, since the lebanese and palestinians would proudly live without it, if there were not that nasty agressive and racist state around them.

flickflack

31-01-2010, 08:03 PM

They done a good brainwashing job on you! You could be the poster boy for the nazi bastards. And let's not mix up decent jews with zionist scum!

I take that as an insult.

are you absolutely sure about that remark?
I have read that judas was the only one who understood Jesus fully, he followed orders to the 'T' as this is exactly how Jesus wanted it to go down..

Judas is historys biggest fall guy..read the book 'the lost gospel of Judas Iscariot'

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Gospel-Judas-Iscariot-Betrayer/dp/B002GJU1F2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264965436&sr=8-2

it is an amazing read, and may help your future posts :)

I did not know that the gospel of Judas Iscariot where recommended on here.

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 08:13 PM

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 08:14 PM

I take that as an insult.

Good! It was meant as one.

flickflack

31-01-2010, 08:15 PM

Israel constantly pissing off the middle east is a proven fact!

What about all the rockets launched at Israel?

tinyint

31-01-2010, 08:20 PM

What about all the rockets launched at Israel?

Are you trying to be funny? :rolleyes:

Thats peas compared to the enemy's arsenal and almost does no damage, in terms of human life.

It is like the native americans fought the conquistadors.

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 08:20 PM

What about all the rockets launched at Israel?

Oh you mean the little fireworks they occasionally lobb over? Listen mate, I don't know where you live but if some other country's military came along and removed millions of those around you by brute force and then over a period gradually forced the rest of you into a tiny part of your country where you had no access to the basics and where you were living in an open prison with your children suffering ptsd and you and yours were being bombed by 'real' bombs don't you think you might retaliate with whatever you could?

Or are you advocating that they should just quietly die?

eternal wheel

31-01-2010, 08:42 PM

What about all the rockets launched at Israel?

yeh, in a few years tme you could have 'rocket memorial day' remembering a load of made up stories about how hezbullah blotted out the sun with thousands of rockets, killing 6 million jews....

think of the reparations...

kerr-ching.

freedom1st

31-01-2010, 08:50 PM

yeh, in a few years tme you could have 'rocket memorial day' remembering a load of made up stories about how hezbullah blotted out the sun with thousands of rockets, killing 6 million jews....

think of the reparations...

kerr-ching.

Very funny but you know what? I actually wouldn't put it past them.

rhydra

31-01-2010, 09:07 PM

There any Jewish Israeli people who are taking to the streets to protest against their government, something that those who oppose their governments in neighbouring countries are not allowed to do. A boycott and indiscriminate attacks on the general population will only harden pro war voices and silence dissent in Israel.

Israel will not be brought down, defeated or made to alter by force. The only hope is that those within can alter the course of the country peacefully without a war that has the capacity to kill millions, sadly they will mostly be Arabs and Muslims who lose their lives. Exciting of course for the armchair tacticians, but disastrous for those who live there and their descendent.

it is always best to choose the peaceful route no matter how frustrating.

rodin

31-01-2010, 09:18 PM

lightgiver

31-01-2010, 09:21 PM

are you absolutely sure about that remark?
I have read that judas was the only one who understood Jesus fully, he followed orders to the 'T' as this is exactly how Jesus wanted it to go down..

Judas is historys biggest fall guy..read the book 'the lost gospel of Judas Iscariot'

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-Gospel-Judas-Iscariot-Betrayer/dp/B002GJU1F2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264965436&sr=8-2

it is an amazing read, and may help your future posts :)

yes I have read and seen similar story's,its worth keeping a open mind seeing history has been tampered with somewhat.:)

Britain's Politicians with Roy Harper's "Dont You Grieve." - YouTube

The Gospel of Judas

The Gospel of Judas, the Hidden Story of the Betrayal of Christ 3/8 (Dutch subs) - YouTube

The Gospel of Judas, on the other hand, portrays Judas in a very different perspective than do the Gospels of the New Testament, according to a preliminary translation made in early 2006 by the National Geographic Society: the Gospel of Judas appears to interpret Judas's act not as betrayal, but rather as an act of obedience to the instructions of Jesus. This assumption is taken on the basis that Jesus required a second agent to set in motion a course of events which he had planned. In that sense Judas acted as a catalyst. The action of Judas, then, was a pivotal point which interconnected a series of simultaneous pre-orchestrated events.

clachan

31-01-2010, 09:31 PM

This is not the first time I have been on my own in the News section, defending Israel by the premise that I criticize Lebanon. War against Israel is part of the culture there, and that is a proven fact.

You are not alone,Isreal is the Jewish motherland,they have to live somewhere.

I really hope that peace can be achieved for the sake off all on both sides,however if it does come to it i hope Isreal repeats it historic 1967 victory in short time.
I think this time they,ll pull all the stops out.....sadly.

Its sad that those lot cant find a way forward without resorting to violence.

rodin

31-01-2010, 10:20 PM

You are not alone,Isreal is the Jewish motherland,they have to live somewhere.

I really hope that peace can be achieved for the sake off all on both sides,however if it does come to it i hope Isreal repeats it historic 1967 victory in short time.
I think this time they,ll pull all the stops out.....sadly.

Its sad that those lot cant find a way forward without resorting to violence.

http://www.ussliberty.org/voices.htm

sloughi

31-01-2010, 10:23 PM

The state of Israel has never used any nukes in any of their attacks. And we must not forget that in the 1990's, Lebanon fired Katusha-rockets against Israel. And Israel had no way of immediate protection against these kinds of attacks.
Israel is nothing but the victim in this conflict, at least if you think about it as long as I have.

P.S. War against Israel is part of the culture in Lebanon, as it has been revealed by independent news sources.
Israel usually start it by kidnapping and killing Lebanese civilians. HazBollah just retaliate openly. We'll see if israel is interested in warfare now. I doubt
israel do anything that'll further damage their image, but if they do attack or get into conflict israel is done for.;)

verndewd

31-01-2010, 10:35 PM

transcendental stallion

31-01-2010, 11:33 PM

This is nothing positive! The Jews have been on the run for 2,000 years, so let them have peace. Who's problem is that? It isn't worth my tears or sympathy. Why can not they get along with anyone? Romans, Babylonians, even Persians who freed them, Spanish and Germans? If they care about their existence, they'll leave where they do not belong which is PALESTINE, relocate to GERMANY and learn to respect other people and quit money-hussling people. They will never do that because that mean they can't manipulate like they manipulate the United States. They can't rob like they robe US tax-payers. They refuse to adopt model behavour which would draw friends. Instead they chose deviant behavour which everyone oppose such as been opposed over 33 times at the UN. They knowing that they are of a criminal nature therefore result to manipulation of people to use them against OTHER people who oppose them. HazBollah beating Israel's ass will nip israel's madness in the bud for good.
We can and will never forget, the unjustly persecution of the Jews. The hatred of the Jews, in which Judas Iscariot was part responsible for. There has never in history been an "unjust" persecution of Jews.
The systematic mass-murdering of Jews during the holocaust can never be accepted or tolerated as something civil, as it is the most monstrous crime against humanity we must never forget.The Holocaust was accepted and tolerated and if people could change one thing about it, it would be to throw the Jews that are milking Germany for "reparation", free submarines and such in their own baker's oven. I don't think you realize that as people studying Freemasonry, reptilians and the hidden government we also study another primary element of this cabal which is the Jewish element. For freemasonry is modeled AFTER judaism and in no way can exclude those whome benefit most from it which are them. It wasn't Muslims or Arabs which sunk the liberty or did 9-11. It was israel along with the Jewish-controlled Neo-conservatives which use WHITES to do everything for them but wipe their tails. Those 4,000 JEWS that escaped 9-11 would be called "ZIONIST" by some. But many Jews say that every jew is a Zionist and I WHOLLY agree. Why because they act as one body to sabotage Western culture and frame Islamic nations to drag the West into war. The MOSSAD, Jewish Defense League and AntiDefamation League all work together against common people whom are not Jewish. You even set up other minorities such as OJ, Tupac kill people such as Michael Jackson that oppose your evil Talmudic schemes. You only use and abuse people but those 1 ton HazBollah missiles will fix that little problem for us buddy.;)
Meanwhile the reptiles and masons are just code words in my opinion.
They tolerate that more or less, since the majority have no clue.
My 2 cents

In Europe Jews used to drain blood from whites in demonic rituals. Today they do it to cows in slaughter houses. Devils absorb dissipating heat so they through Cows in a spinner of some sort that causes the blood to drain from the cows. They also cut the larynx out so that the cow's scream can not be made. So they are alot like Reptilians after all.

I would not give this the thumbs up at all
Next a false flag on some Israeli Christians or Arabs perhaps followed by 'justified retaliation'The next time israel tries anything, NasRallah will see to it that it will be israel's LAST time. Death is just part of the game. The Death of israel will be worth it in the end.

leviathanstaar

01-02-2010, 01:55 AM

stelios

01-02-2010, 06:29 AM

http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/17mideast600.jpg

Israel calls them terrorists.

http://djiin.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/4295.jpg

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 04:19 PM

This what we are dealing with:

Yesterday on my Facebook, a man posted a UN finding that Hammas was also targetting civilians during the confilct. (probably also true)

To him, this was proof that the accusations against Isreal over it must be totally false.

When I asked him why (this is someone supposedly fully aware of the state of affairs, or thinks so)

He said (and I kid you not) "the moment you strap a bomb to yourself or drive a car full of explosives you're not a civilian"

I pointed out that is the exact description western powers give to 'al-qaeda' that often turns out to be armed islamic farmers who just figure they are going to die anyways.

Of course I was met by feel good brigade.

Always short on facts, always high on emotion.

Are you just a little bit thick then or what ?? Just a simple question if you can answer that !!!

Of course you aint a fucking civilian anymore if you strap a bomb to yourself, drive a car bomb or even yes even pick a weapon up.

If somebody is walking or driving a car or tending the fields without a bomb or weapon they are a civilian.

Next you will be giving it Al- qaeda is an American organization :rolleyes:

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 04:27 PM

Are you trying to be funny? :rolleyes:

Thats peas compared to the enemy's arsenal and almost does no damage, in terms of human life.

It is like the native americans fought the conquistadors.

Are you trying to be funny :rolleyes: So what is almost does no damage, in terms of human life. ??

Well actually it kills :rolleyes: Im sure you asshole wouldn't collapse while sitting there thinking , well its only a peashooter and it aint going to damage me !! What a stupid fucking statement. That comes from some moron who has never been under any type of pea shooter fire except on some fucking computer game :mad:

Yes Israel have loads of superior firepower compared to most in the region, in which there kill ratio is far superior, but to say pea shooters ffs ....pure shite

tinyint

01-02-2010, 04:38 PM

Are you trying to be funny :rolleyes: So what is almost does no damage, in terms of human life. ??

Well actually it kills :rolleyes: Im sure you asshole wouldn't collapse while sitting there thinking , well its only a peashooter and it aint going to damage me !! What a stupid fucking statement. That comes from some moron who has never been under any type of pea shooter fire except on some fucking computer game :mad:

Yes Israel have loads of superior firepower compared to most in the region, in which there kill ratio is far superior, but to say pea shooters ffs ....pure shite

Huh? the loss of life is about 1:10 at least or more.
I meant the home made rockets with almost peas, no guiding system, small damage compared to an over armed IDF with helicopters, fighter jets, tanks etc, sure the rockets also kill, but unfortunately the main objective in armed conflict is to kill.
So what is your problem with my statement? Do you support or relativize the over reaction and cruel war in gaza and lebanon? :eek:

logos880

01-02-2010, 04:59 PM

it is always best to choose the peaceful route no matter how frustrating.

A non-violent solution is the only solution.

I would not give this the thumbs up at all

It is only downside. More death and hundredfold retaliation. Enough already

In any case it is likely a psyop. Next a false flag on some Israeli Christians or Arabs perhaps followed by 'justified retaliation'

Check the OP's post history and you will see that he or she is very pro-violence and believes that war and death is the answer. :(

Huh? the loss of life is about 1:10 at least or more.
I meant the home made rockets with almost peas, no guiding system, small damage compared to an over armed IDF with helicopters, fighter jets, tanks etc, sure the rockets also kill, but unfortunately the main objective in armed conflict is to kill.
So what is your problem with my statement? Do you support or relativize the over reaction and cruel war in gaza and lebanon? :eek:

How does one measure the value of a human life? More casualties on one side of the fence so the people on the other side are the bad guys?

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 05:05 PM

Huh? the loss of life is about 1:10 at least or more.
I meant the home made rockets with almost peas, no guiding system, small damage compared to an over armed IDF with helicopters, fighter jets, tanks etc, sure the rockets also kill, but unfortunately the main objective in armed conflict is to kill.
So what is your problem with my statement? Do you support or relativize the over reaction and cruel war in gaza and lebanon? :eek:

Well the problem with your previous statement is it is pure shit. So now Hezbollah may have more advanced rockets to equal the death toll is that better ??
You only need a cple of people with aks in a shopping center to kill loads of people, do you class an ak as a pea shooter then ??

Oh and how is it cruel when one side is fighting to get its land back. Just because they are outgunned its cruel is it ??

Get off your fucking high horse about Gaza and Lebanon im probably the only poster who cant go to to Israel or the good ol USA.

To be honest I cdnt give a fuck about Israel and the Palestine/lebanon/Syria, but I wont sit here why people post shit about something they read about , and have no relative experience !!!

tinyint

01-02-2010, 05:30 PM

Well the problem with your previous statement is it is pure shit. So now Hezbollah may have more advanced rockets to equal the death toll is that better ??
You only need a cple of people with aks in a shopping center to kill loads of people, do you class an ak as a pea shooter then ??

Oh and how is it cruel when one side is fighting to get its land back. Just because they are outgunned its cruel is it ??

Get off your fucking high horse about Gaza and Lebanon im probably the only poster who cant go to to Israel or the good ol USA.

To be honest I cdnt give a fuck about Israel and the Palestine/lebanon/Syria, but I wont sit here why people post shit about something they read about , and have no relative experience !!!

What about palestinians and lebanese, who visited their families after the war and showed self taken pics? Liars?
Msm hype of one damaged building and two injured in Israel is nothing compared to what you see on the snapshots.

Do you expect the palestinians to simply stand by and let IDF slaughter them? They do not have an organized official army. That is called assymetric warfare.

I also do very much appreaciate your warm language, and I agree war is shit.

But who is the aggressor?

http://marchtowar.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/who-started-the-2006-lebanon-war/

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 06:08 PM

What about palestinians and lebanese, who visited their families after the war and showed self taken pics? Liars?
Msm hype of one damaged building and two injured in Israel is nothing compared to what you see on the snapshots.

Do you expect the palestinians to simply stand by and let IDF slaughter them? They do not have an organized official army. That is called assymetric warfare.

I also do very much appreaciate your warm language, and I agree war is shit. But who is the aggressor?

http://marchtowar.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/who-started-the-2006-lebanon-war/

Im glad you like the warm language, hope your female about 32, gsoh, nice tits ;), a handful will do the rest im not fussed about :eek: :D If you are a bloke stop getting off on it :p
Right back on topic !!!!!!

What bit dont you get, The blame game is a load of wank, here is an example real life btw not something you may of read in a book but 1st hand info :D

Ceasefires were getting called regularly in a conflict , coming into force at 0800hrs. So people would be ready and at 0800hrs or what ever time it was(midnite sometimes) would release a barrage of small arms and rpgs, both sides that was. WHO WAS TO BLAME ?? The fucking politicians because they didnt have a clue what was going on on the ground and were trying to impose something that wasn't practical to the men on the ground .

There will always be conflict in that region, even if the Israelis are kicked out, they will have it with each other , due to various sects(religious), tribal affiliations(religious and regional) and that fucking dowry wasn't big enuff and you should of offered 200 goats not 199 goats ;) you get my drift tho!!!

umbrex

01-02-2010, 06:20 PM

this is nothing positive! The jews have been on the run for 2,000 years, so let them have peace. We can and will never forget, the unjustly persecution of the jews. The hatred of the jews, in which judas iscariot was part responsible for.
The systematic mass-murdering of jews during the holocaust can never be accepted or tolerated as something civil, as it is the most monstrous crime against humanity we must never forget.

bahhahahahahahaaaaa

umbrex

01-02-2010, 06:22 PM

velma

01-02-2010, 06:28 PM

What about all the rockets launched at Israel?

Show me the footage of utter destruction and the mutilated victims of Israel, I must have missed that?

War On Lebanon 2006 - YouTube

umbrex

01-02-2010, 06:28 PM

I take that as an insult.

Oh yeah ??

90% of todays jews are KHAZARS! [AshkeNAZI jews]

The palestinian people are of SEMITIC descent!

What you guys did this last year was round the semites in an concentrationcamp named GAZA and let the dogs loose on them, killing 700 innocent women, children and men ..had it not been for the fact that it happend, it would be damn hilarious ..u nazi bastard!

I did not know that the gospel of Judas Iscariot where recommended on here.

Yeah, guess that backfired on your ass, eh?

flickflack

01-02-2010, 06:29 PM

There has never in history been an "unjust" persecution of Jews.

Even holocaust-deniers admit that Jews where treated badly in Nazi-Germany, both before and during the war. So your statement doesn't make sense, looking back at history.

tb303

01-02-2010, 06:39 PM

velma

01-02-2010, 07:19 PM

Even holocaust-deniers admit that Jews where treated badly in Nazi-Germany, both before and during the war. So your statement doesn't make sense, looking back at history.

So what precisely has this alleged 'Holocaust' (that can't be proved) got to do with the Lebanese or Palestinians, Syrians, Jordanians, Iraqi's or Iranians? Why should the Arabs be forced to play host to this parasite nation who invokes hatred and contempt wherever they go? I'm also still waiting to see proof of the carnage in Israel and 'victims' of Katyusha rockets (damp squibs) ???? Southern Lebanon is littered with unexploded cluster bombs which will continue killing innocent people for years to come.

al ciada

01-02-2010, 07:32 PM

Good!

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 08:06 PM

So what precisely has this alleged 'Holocaust' (that can't be proved) got to do with the Lebanese or Palestinians, Syrians, Jordanians, Iraqi's or Iranians? Why should the Arabs be forced to play host to this parasite nation who invokes hatred and contempt wherever they go? I'm also still waiting to see proof of the carnage in Israel and 'victims' of Katyusha rockets (damp squibs) ???? Southern Lebanon is littered with unexploded cluster bombs which will continue killing innocent people for years to come.

Katusha rockets damp squibs

Why bother fucking posting eh ?????????????????? Try sitting under a salvo from Katusha rockets, ill give you damp fucking squib. Fuck off back to your halls of residence and read another book :rolleyes:

Would you be happy then with Israel being pounded with big fuck off rockets like in the op ??

tinyint

01-02-2010, 08:21 PM

Katusha rockets damp squibs

Why bother fucking posting eh ?????????????????? Try sitting under a salvo from Katusha rockets, ill give you damp fucking squib. Fuck off back to your halls of residence and read another book :rolleyes:

Would you be happy then with Israel being pounded with big fuck off rockets like in the op ??

http://normanfinkelstein.com/img/photos/latuff/CombatBoots_BeitHanoun112006.jpg

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 08:35 PM

http://normanfinkelstein.com/img/photos/latuff/CombatBoots_BeitHanoun112006.jpg

Is that it ??

See what you dint seem to realize is...

That to people under fire whether Palastenian or Israeli they are under fire. Until you have been a situation like that keep posting cartoons :rolleyes: Wehther a f15 is dropping a bomb or you are under fire by multiple katyushas believe me the feeling is the same for palestinians/Lebanese or Israelis and this is what you will never understand ;)

real6

01-02-2010, 08:44 PM

P.S. War against Israel is part of the culture in Lebanon, as it has been revealed by independent news sources.

Well that is true............When you have People (Zionists/Jews) coming into your peaceful loving country and setting up illegal settlements and killing your people. Raping your children so they don't breed. And also stealing organs from your people!!!

Undercut crime: Israel admits illegal organ ...

Undercut crime: Israel admits illegal organ harvesting - YouTube

Israeli Organ Harvesting Victims - YouTube

freedom1st

01-02-2010, 09:53 PM

Even holocaust-deniers admit that Jews where treated badly in Nazi-Germany, both before and during the war. So your statement doesn't make sense, looking back at history.

If there has been any persecution it was in direct response to those parasites trying to wreck every society they wheedle their way into. Check out quotes of famous people (not stupid celebs) going all the way back to Cicero who tell of how their societies were bled dry so that they had no choice but to get rid of the theiving, leeching, murdering shysters.

velma

01-02-2010, 09:57 PM

Katusha rockets damp squibs

Why bother fucking posting eh ?????????????????? Try sitting under a salvo from Katusha rockets, ill give you damp fucking squib. Fuck off back to your halls of residence and read another book :rolleyes:

Would you be happy then with Israel being pounded with big fuck off rockets like in the op ??

Hmmm... I'm flattered you think I'm a young student! :p

No, I'd be happy if Israel would stop invading it's neighbours and committing genocide, and then screaming "anti-Semitism" when challenged about war crimes.

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 10:40 PM

Hmmm... I'm flattered you think I'm a young student! :p

No, I'd be happy if Israel would stop invading it's neighbours and committing genocide, and then screaming "anti-Semitism" when challenged about war crimes.

Hey no age discrimination off me, young or old you got the groove go 4 it ;)

Yep the wp shells, the troops that used them should be dropped over gazza without a chute :eek:

So what do you propose for the problem ?? Israel is there and thats it, realistically they aint going no where, so what is the solution ?? :)

zarah

01-02-2010, 11:19 PM

Is that it ??

See what you dint seem to realize is...

That to people under fire whether Palastenian or Israeli they are under fire. Until you have been a situation like that keep posting cartoons :rolleyes: Wehther a f15 is dropping a bomb or you are under fire by multiple katyushas believe me the feeling is the same for palestinians/Lebanese or Israelis and this is what you will never understand ;)

You're wrong, despite the ranting.

A country can be under attack to a lesser or greater degree, a country can be attacked or it can be defending itself and a country can have an infrastrcture which can withstand damage and attack to a greater or lesser degree. There's many variables and there's many reasons why Israel is a terrorist state by any defintiion.

entrangermercenary

01-02-2010, 11:53 PM

You're wrong, despite the ranting.

A country can be under attack to a lesser or greater degree, a country can be attacked or it can be defending itself and a country can have an infrastrcture which can withstand damage and attack to a greater or lesser degree. There's many variables and there's many reasons why Israel is a terrorist state by any defintiion.

Im wrong am I :rolleyes: Well if you have contacts fucking ask them what it is like to come under fire.

A 500pound bomb will demolish a few houses and a Katusha will possibly demolish 1 house. AN AK will kill people so will a grail.

If you want to go into semantics yes I would prefer to be fired upon by the Palestinians because my survival rates are greater. But if that rocket lands on me im gone, and you will never fucking understand the fear factor sitting on your arse behind a computer, and that is why you can not comprehend that it is just a frightening for the Israelis to come under attack as it is the palestinians/lebanese :rolleyes:

We are not onabout Israel as a terrorist state thats a given.

Did I not ask you before why aren't you out there in a camp or working in the strip if you think you know it all ?? Much safer here tho eh !!!

Thats not just for you btw its for all you people who keep posting about it , as you are doing fuck all on here :D

umbrex

02-02-2010, 12:00 AM

Would you be happy then with Israel being pounded with big fuck off rockets like in the op ??

nah, not pounded ..just one big one ..right on top of where u hide your 298 nukes.

world peace in a flash :)

umbrex

02-02-2010, 12:01 AM

Im wrong am I :rolleyes: Well if you have contacts fucking ask them what it is like to come under fire.

Most people here are aware of the powerr of television and indoktrination ;)

transcendental stallion

02-02-2010, 12:46 AM

Especially if those rockets are tipped with cobalt 60 and then that whole area's gonna get fucked. That would be a great thing, but the Syrians are saupplying them. I doubt they will be state-of-theart weapons though they ARE guided and can reach a bit pass Tel Aviv if launched from Southern Lebanon. So we should HOPE that Syria, Iran and others have supplied NasRallah with suffice numbers rather than 2 or 3 measly amount of missiles. I'm very proud of these missiles being supplied to HazBollah. They now can target airports, IDF weapons storage sites, water treatment plants, control towers and military barracks. Another missile that would GREATLY aid HazBollah are bomblet dropping missiles. Those type of missiles can clear airfields of hundreds aircrafts in seconds.
Even holocaust-deniers admit that Jews where treated badly in Nazi-Germany, both before and during the war. So your statement doesn't make sense, looking back at history.
Holocaust deniers do NOT "admit" jewish treatment of ANY kind. What they do say is that Gypsies and others were humiliated by Nazis, BUT the JEWS are rge ONLY group exploiting and benefiting from the Holocaust claim. That's
what your stupid ass do NOT know.
Katusha rockets damp squibs

Would you be happy then with Israel being pounded with big fuck off rockets like in the op ??Israel is NOT a concern for security. If they want to be safe, then quit launching rockets into israel and blaming Hamas as a pretext for war. That's left up to israel. Quit attacking defenseless an unarmed people. Israel initiates fights only with those that israel feel they can defeat. Try that shit with HazBollah or Iran and see what happens.;) I think not because you and we all know what would become of israeli cowards.

icarus

02-02-2010, 04:33 AM

muslim gunman with a star of david necklace

very odd

israelis don't need to fear a firecracker lanched in their general direction, they need to fear their own government, as do we all

mad dogs with nukes

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CYjr3ngR6hg/S2aMtQwX9TI/AAAAAAAACFE/YJCKYwoMomM/S214/DavidStern.jpg

logos880

02-02-2010, 05:27 AM

Especially if those rockets are tipped with cobalt 60 and then that whole area's gonna get fucked.

That would be a great thing, but the Syrians are saupplying them.

This pro-violence/death/murder garbage never ceases to amaze me. It really doesn't matter what gov't started what conflict there are innocent people in all countries the world over. We are talking about the lives of innocent people here. :( Wake the hell up and realize that violence will solve nothing!

anthony1965

02-02-2010, 09:06 AM

A couple of things to bear in mind:

One is that Israel as it stands today is still by no means the "Eretz Israel" that the Zionists dreamed of (and British Zionists had been encouraging since the middle of the 19th Century with the claim that this was a land without a people).

http://www.hebrewhistory.info/factpapers/fp026_eretz.htm

The Palestine Mandate as it was granted in 1920 to Great Britain at the San Remo conference. It incorporated the terms of the Balfour Declaration, included the territory east and west of the Jordan River and the Dead Sea, and was designated "Palestine." The entire mandated territory had been established by international mandate as a "Jewish National Home.’ The United States declared at that time "...that it will be the policy of the League of Nations to recognize Palestine as a Jewish state as soon as it is a state in fact... England, as mandatory, can be relied upon to give the Jews the privileged position they should have without sacrificing the rights of non-Jews." The eastern portion of the mandated territory from the Red Sea up to the Sea of Galilee was separated by Great Britain from "Palestine" in 1921-22 and bestowed upon the Emir Abdullah as "Transjordan." The territory east and north of the Sea of Galilee (now known as the Golan Heights), was ceded by Great Britain in 1923 to the Syrian French Mandate.

The other thing to bear in mind is Albert Pike's description of the Third World War which called for a war between Jews and Muslims and would lead to the destruction of both.

Don't forget that the game is being manipulated to achieve specific results.

And the welfare of Jews or Muslims is irrelevant to these evil people.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 09:19 AM

A couple of things to bear in mind:

One is that Israel as it stands today is still by no means the "Eretz Israel" that the Zionists dreamed of (and British Zionists had been encouraging since the middle of the 19th Century with the claim that this was a land without a people).

http://www.hebrewhistory.info/factpapers/fp026_eretz.htm

The Palestine Mandate as it was granted in 1920 to Great Britain at the San Remo conference. It incorporated the terms of the Balfour Declaration, included the territory east and west of the Jordan River and the Dead Sea, and was designated "Palestine." The entire mandated territory had been established by international mandate as a "Jewish National Home.’ The United States declared at that time "...that it will be the policy of the League of Nations to recognize Palestine as a Jewish state as soon as it is a state in fact... England, as mandatory, can be relied upon to give the Jews the privileged position they should have without sacrificing the rights of non-Jews." The eastern portion of the mandated territory from the Red Sea up to the Sea of Galilee was separated by Great Britain from "Palestine" in 1921-22 and bestowed upon the Emir Abdullah as "Transjordan." The territory east and north of the Sea of Galilee (now known as the Golan Heights), was ceded by Great Britain in 1923 to the Syrian French Mandate.

The other thing to bear in mind is Albert Pike's description of the Third World War which called for a war between Jews and Muslims and would lead to the destruction of both.
Don't forget that the game is being manipulated to achieve specific results.

And the welfare of Jews or Muslims is irrelevant to these evil people.

Does that mean that if you're not a jew or a muslim you'll be OK? (I think I know the answer).

anthony1965

02-02-2010, 09:22 AM

Does that mean that if you're not a jew or a muslim you'll be OK? (I think I know the answer).

Nope. Christians (and probably all other religous people), but also atheists are on the list.

Basically if you accept the new world religion you'll be okay; That is, if you don't mind some demonic entity kicking out your soul.

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 10:54 AM

nah, not pounded ..just one big one ..right on top of where u hide your 298 nukes.

world peace in a flash :)

That just shows the level of your intelligence by just jumping in and not reading any of my replies.

YOUR NUKES :eek: :D

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 11:03 AM

Most people here are aware of the powerr of television and indoktrination ;)

Television and indoktrination !!!! ?? cant wait to hear this one :D

logos880

02-02-2010, 03:48 PM

The other thing to bear in mind is Albert Pike's description of the Third World War which called for a war between Jews and Muslims and would lead to the destruction of both.

Don't forget that the game is being manipulated to achieve specific results.

And the welfare of Jews or Muslims is irrelevant to these evil people.

Nail on the head! It seems to me that both sides are being coaxed into WWIII. Jews vs. Muslims, West vs. Middle-east etc etc is just a smokescreen...its just a big war game. The goal of the elite is WWIII in order to incorporate a false peace in the form of the NWO. Its great to see that we have cheerleaders encouraging their respective "sides" on this very forum!

umbrex

02-02-2010, 04:31 PM

That just shows the level of your intelligence by just jumping in and not reading any of my replies.

YOUR NUKES :eek: :D

yeah, you zionist tool, your nukes. not you(a)re nukes.

TOOL TOOL TOOL

And about television and indoktrination ...check out the position you assume ...the victimized jew :)

hadabusa

02-02-2010, 04:42 PM

Next you will be giving it Al- qaeda is an American organization :rolleyes:
alqaeda, infact, is zbigniev brzezinsnkys baby.

you could say it was originally an american org.
used against russia, funded and founded by american money.

they turned on usa because there couldnt be found an agreement on a certain pipeline.

hadabusa

02-02-2010, 04:48 PM

Even holocaust-deniers admit that Jews where treated badly in Nazi-Germany, both before and during the war. So your statement doesn't make sense, looking back at history.

they were treated fairly well before 1933 in germany compared to the rest of the world.

flickflack

02-02-2010, 04:53 PM

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 05:07 PM

alqaeda, infact, is zbigniev brzezinsnkys baby.

you could say it was originally an american org.
used against russia, funded and founded by american money.

they turned on usa because there couldnt be found an agreement on a certain pipeline.

Err this is where you all get it wrong. They were all ready fighting the soviets before the yanks got involved. The Americans saw the potential then started to fund and arm them.

They were not conceived by the AMERICANS , they were all ready in being.

hadabusa

02-02-2010, 05:12 PM

Err this is where you all get it wrong. They were all ready fighting the soviets before the yanks got involved. The Americans saw the potential then started to fund and arm them.

They were not conceived by the AMERICANS , they were all ready in being.

ooops, sorry, of course, youre right here. appologies for my ignorance.

however, america is who really made them strong.

i forgot the saying "you cant be friends with afghans, only temporary allie"

:D

flickflack

02-02-2010, 05:21 PM

they were treated fairly well before 1933 in germany compared to the rest of the world.

Maybe because Germany wasn't Nazi-Germany before 1933? It became Nazi-Germany as soon as Hitler got his power. Hitler got quite popular because Germany was the blamed scapegoat for WW1, but that does not justify WW2.

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 05:36 PM

yeah, you zionist tool, your nukes. not you(a)re nukes.

TOOL TOOL TOOL

And about television and indoktrination ...check out the position you assume ...the victimized jew :)

Jew me lol :D

TV and Indoktrination you still lost me there :rolleyes:

Im telling you how people feel under fire you tool

While people are in the basement of the houses sheltering they are not differentiating between f15s and Katusha rockets or Merkava tank rounds or incoming mortar shells. That you tool is what your thick brain can not register. :D

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 05:37 PM

ooops, sorry, of course, youre right here. appologies for my ignorance.

however, america is who really made them strong.

i forgot the saying "you cant be friends with afghans, only temporary allie"

:D

Yes you are correct hada America helped them become the force they became :)

Now where did all the missing stingers go ??

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 05:47 PM

I take it some people thought it was a weak argument for me to mention all the rockets launched at Israel. But, to see things more clear, consider the intentions of those launching these rockets. Their intention is often to affect the civilians, and their intend is therefore to kill innocent civilians... Including women and children.

Think about this, because that's what I'm thinking about when I'm complaining about all these rockets.

Well these innocent victims gov be should held to account then. Or else these people should know they are on occupied land and therefore be prepared to take the consequences. The fireworks were only ever lobbed onto Palestinian land taken decades after the borders were defined in 1967.
Also it was Israel that broke the ceasefire.
Get a grip, these people are at war.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 05:50 PM

Err this is where you all get it wrong. They were all ready fighting the soviets before the yanks got involved. The Americans saw the potential then started to fund and arm them.

They were not conceived by the AMERICANS , they were all ready in being.

Sorry are we now taling about the Afghans? In which case it was the Americans and the British who trained up the mujahadeed (now the Taliban) to fight the Russians. They may have already been there but so what? We'r back to the usual suspects.

Al Queda on the other hand was the name of the CIA database and an invention therein. Now they don't need to invent coz they've pissed off so many people all over the world that they've now managed to create willing terrorists.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 05:52 PM

Maybe because Germany wasn't Nazi-Germany before 1933? It became Nazi-Germany as soon as Hitler got his power. Hitler got quite popular because Germany was the blamed scapegoat for WW1, but that does not justify WW2.

And who were the Nazis exactly?
And who funded Hitler?
And why did Germany go to war again? Could it be they were starving due to the Versailles Treaty whereby they had to hand over more money than they had? That's one answer, the other is because the zionists wanted to get the jews into Israel.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 05:57 PM

Jew me lol :D

TV and Indoktrination you still lost me there :rolleyes:

Im telling you how people feel under fire you tool

While people are in the basement of the houses sheltering they are not differentiating between f15s and Katusha rockets or Merkava tank rounds or incoming mortar shells. That you tool is what your thick brain can not register. :D

Your thick brain doesn't seem to register that it's the equivalent to Tyson beating up on a 3 year old and the 3 year old hitting back with whatever means it has at its disposal.
Or should the Palestinians just die quietly?

tinyint

02-02-2010, 06:03 PM

And who were the Nazis exactly?
And who funded Hitler?
And why did Germany go to war again? Could it be they were starving due to the Versailles Treaty whereby they had to hand over more money than they had? That's one answer, the other is because the zionists wanted to get the jews into Israel.

+1
The normal average german perceived it as a deception of good will at the host nation, after they got much more rights than anywhere else at that time.
Main reason the nazis rose into power, the people fell for the trap they set up at versailles. Does not really wonder.

flickflack

02-02-2010, 06:07 PM

And who were the Nazis exactly?
And who funded Hitler?
And why did Germany go to war again? Could it be they were starving due to the Versailles Treaty whereby they had to hand over more money than they had? That's one answer, the other is because the zionists wanted to get the jews into Israel.

Germany was held accountable for the first world war, and it may have been wrong to put all the blame on them for WW1. Germany does however need to take full responsibility for world war 2, which they (and they alone) started. And there is in no circumstances justification for any holocaust. The holocaust in WW2 was pure evil. Period.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 06:09 PM

Germany was held accountable for the first world war, and it may have been wrong to put all the blame on them for WW1. Germany does however need to take full responsibility for world war 2, which they (and they alone) started. And there is in no circumstances justification for any holocaust. The holocaust in WW2 was pure evil. Period.

Are you a bit thick or what? Read the above posts which clearly answered the point you've made. You keep blaming the Germans for this because you're brainwashed. FFS go and educate yourself.
And talking about holocausts the nazis in Israel are doing exactly the same as they claimed was done to them.

flickflack

02-02-2010, 06:17 PM

Are you a bit thick or what? Read the above posts which clearly answered the point you've made. You keep blaming the Germans for this because you're brainwashed. FFS go and educate yourself.

Actually, I got quite good grades in history. I don't need any more education in history, but I still research some of the aspects though. I think history is interesting. You don't need to tell me what to do. Thanks.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 06:20 PM

Actually, I got quite good grades in history. I don't need any more education in history, but I still research some of the aspects though. I think history is interesting. You don't need to tell me what to do. Thanks.

And is this the history you learnt in school or college? If yes say no more, I now get where you're coming from.

flickflack

02-02-2010, 06:25 PM

And is this the history you learnt in school or college? If yes say no more, I now get where you're coming from.

I may quit responding to you in particular, but you can't really force me to leave the thread. This is an open forum, after all.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 06:30 PM

I may quit responding to you in particular, but you can't really force me to leave the thread. This is an open forum, after all.

Who said anything about forcing you to leave? I just said I now understand what knowledge you're basing your posts on and therefore no further explanation is needed as to why you haven't go a clue about this subject.

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 06:51 PM

Your thick brain doesn't seem to register that it's the equivalent to Tyson beating up on a 3 year old and the 3 year old hitting back with whatever means it has at its disposal.
Or should the Palestinians just die quietly?

Its the equivalent to Israel bombing gaza/lebenon and them retaliating. Fuck all to do with beating up 3yr old girls you buffoon;)

This is what all you armchair pundits do not realize. Go to any country/region affected by a conflict. The civilians couldnt give a fuck if it was a lee enfield rifle or a mini gun shooting at them all they realize is they are being shot at, and to take cover :rolleyes:

We are on about the fear factor for civilians on both sides, and for the Israeli civilians who are in range of Hezbollah rockets/mortars the fear factor is exactly the same as the Palestinians/lebs who are under fire from Israelis.

Sorry for explaining how the reality of war works for you, and how civilians react in war and what they feel.!!!

We are not talking about the rights and wrongs , well im not and I cdnt care less who was bombing who, or if Israel exists or ceases to exist, I dont care

tinyint

02-02-2010, 07:03 PM

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 07:19 PM

Then you should face the fact that the fear factor in israel will get even greater. ;)
The other side have nothing to loose, but all to gain.

Plank !!! :D

Once you have shit you pants, you realize the fear factor can not increase ;)

eternal wheel

02-02-2010, 07:25 PM

And there is in no circumstances justification for any holocaust. The holocaust in WW2 was pure evil. Period.

what holocaust?

logos880

02-02-2010, 07:32 PM

Its the equivalent to Israel bombing gaza/lebenon and them retaliating. Fuck all to do with beating up 3yr old girls you buffoon;)

This is what all you armchair pundits do not realize. Go to any country/region affected by a conflict. The civilians couldnt give a fuck if it was a lee enfield rifle or a mini gun shooting at them all they realize is they are being shot at, and to take cover :rolleyes:

We are on about the fear factor for civilians on both sides, and for the Israeli civilians who are in range of Hezbollah rockets/mortars the fear factor is exactly the same as the Palestinians/lebs who are under fire from Israelis.

Sorry for explaining how the reality of war works for you, and how civilians react in war and what they feel.!!!

We are not talking about the rights and wrongs , well im not and I cdnt care less who was bombing who, or if Israel exists or ceases to exist, I dont care

Well said...it's not the elites who are calling the shots in these conflicts that suffer. The people that suffer are the innocent civilians who are on both sides of the conflict!

Seems that most on this forum are MSM contrarians and when the MSM votes for Israel everyone on the forum blindly votes for the other guy.

tinyint

02-02-2010, 07:33 PM

Germany was held accountable for the first world war, and it may have been wrong to put all the blame on them for WW1. Germany does however need to take full responsibility for world war 2, which they (and they alone) started. And there is in no circumstances justification for any holocaust. The holocaust in WW2 was pure evil. Period.

Do we need to insert a coin now for you to continue?

You might have found this useful feature?

http://static.berryreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/off-button.jpg

Your statements could well be copied from the ADL site, or shall I say Zentralrat? ;)

flickflack

02-02-2010, 08:05 PM

Do we need to insert a coin now for you to continue?

You might have found this useful feature?

http://static.berryreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/off-button.jpg

Your statements could well be copied from the ADL site, or shall I say Zentralrat? ;)

I typed this. I didn't copy and paste!

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 08:14 PM

Its the equivalent to Israel bombing gaza/lebenon and them retaliating. Fuck all to do with beating up 3yr old girls you buffoon;)

This is what all you armchair pundits do not realize. Go to any country/region affected by a conflict. The civilians couldnt give a fuck if it was a lee enfield rifle or a mini gun shooting at them all they realize is they are being shot at, and to take cover :rolleyes:

We are on about the fear factor for civilians on both sides, and for the Israeli civilians who are in range of Hezbollah rockets/mortars the fear factor is exactly the same as the Palestinians/lebs who are under fire from Israelis.

Sorry for explaining how the reality of war works for you, and how civilians react in war and what they feel.!!!

We are not talking about the rights and wrongs , well im not and I cdnt care less who was bombing who, or if Israel exists or ceases to exist, I dont care

Don't you get the concept of analogies or comparisons?
You seem to be having your own little topic going here - you keep going on about the difference between little rockets and huge weapons of mass destruction and frankly you're sounding like an ass!
I asked you if the Palestinians should just die quietly because that seems to be what you are proposing. If that is not what you are proposing then please do tell what is it they are supposed to do.
I haven't bothered responding to most of your posts because frankly someone with your obvious lack of intellect is not worth debating with. You're just not making any sense but what you lack in intellect you make up for in your obnoxious and rude demeanor which is equally unimpressive.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 08:16 PM

what holocaust?

lol!

flickflack

02-02-2010, 08:18 PM

what holocaust?

Look in your history books!

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 08:19 PM

Well said...it's not the elites who are calling the shots in these conflicts that suffer. The people that suffer are the innocent civilians who are on both sides of the conflict!

Seems that most on this forum are MSM contrarians and when the MSM votes for Israel everyone on the forum blindly votes for the other guy.

Bit of reflecting going on here I think.
What is it that you don't understand about people defending themselves?
I'll ask again: Do you expect the Palestinians to die quietly?

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 08:22 PM

I typed this. I didn't copy and paste!

Gosh, he must have learnt how to read and write at the same time as he was learning false history.

transcendental stallion

02-02-2010, 08:43 PM

A couple of things to bear in mind:

One is that Israel as it stands today is still by no means the "Eretz Israel" that the Zionists dreamed of (and British Zionists had been encouraging since the middle of the 19th Century with the claim that this was a land without a people).Israel uses the media to promote others' acts of self defense as aggression against "The Jewish State", but uses the media to promote israel's hot rhetoric as boldy confronting a threat. Below for example.
Uzi Arad, senior advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said Monday that he believes the situation with Iran may escalate; Tehran may have to pay a heavy price for what he called defying the world.

"Israel is being silent, on acting in the Middle East's fighting on terrorism, and therefore events that takes place in the region, are on the hype,"
Israel is too damn incompetent and scared to try anything, but isn't this talk
of war against UN rules? They say Iran is evil and want to wipe israel off the map, based on ONE statement which was a misinterpretation. Yet, israel make threats like this a few times a month and sometimes WEEKS. When will israel quit lipping it and actually TRY it.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=117640&sectionid=351020104

logos880

02-02-2010, 09:06 PM

Bit of reflecting going on here I think.
What is it that you don't understand about people defending themselves?
I'll ask again: Do you expect the Palestinians to die quietly?

It is important to understand just who the aggressors are in this situation. The people who are waging the war are the elite. The losers are the innocent people that will die in the name of war.

I never said people should not defend themselves. Know this, violence will only lead to more violence; it is a vicious cycle that will never end. Peaceful non-cooperation is the answer.

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 09:16 PM

Don't you get the concept of analogies or comparisons?
You seem to be having your own little topic going here - you keep going on about the difference between little rockets and huge weapons of mass destruction and frankly you're sounding like an ass!
I asked you if the Palestinians should just die quietly because that seems to be what you are proposing. If that is not what you are proposing then please do tell what is it they are supposed to do.
I haven't bothered responding to most of your posts because frankly someone with your obvious lack of intellect is not worth debating with. You're just not making any sense but what you lack in intellect you make up for in your obnoxious and rude demeanor which is equally unimpressive.

Here in bold again just for you fuckwit

We are not talking about the rights and wrongs , well im not and I cdnt care less who was bombing who, or if Israel exists or ceases to exist, I dont care

Does that make it clear ???

Read the op moron its about rockets :rolleyes:

Im telling you the fear factor amongst civilians on both sides is the same whether its from a big rocket or a little rocket, the civilians on both sides are frightened of dying.

Its quite simple really even for you ;)

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 09:26 PM

It is important to understand just who the aggressors are in this situation. The people who are waging the war are the elite. The losers are the innocent people that will die in the name of war.

I never said people should not defend themselves. Know this, violence will only lead to more violence; it is a vicious cycle that will never end. Peaceful non-cooperation is the answer.

I agree but do you honestly think that peaceful non-cooperation would work in the case of the Palestinians? All that would happen is that Israel would finish the job.

transcendental stallion

02-02-2010, 09:29 PM

I agree but do you honestly think that peaceful non-cooperation would work in the case of the Palestinians? All that would happen is that Israel would finish the job.That's why war is the only option against israel. Israel uses diplomacy to buy time when they run out of strategies. Then israel goes back to rocket attacking itself as an escuse to abuse Palestine.

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 09:32 PM

Here in bold again just for you fuckwit

We are not talking about the rights and wrongs , well im not and I cdnt care less who was bombing who, or if Israel exists or ceases to exist, I dont care

Does that make it clear ???

Read the op moron its about rockets :rolleyes:

Im telling you the fear factor amongst civilians on both sides is the same whether its from a big rocket or a little rocket, the civilians on both sides are frightened of dying.

Its quite simple really even for you ;)

Everything you've said is completely out of perspective. You're just not getting essence of the argument. Oh well, I tried even though I guessed it might be a waste of time.
You're well practiced with the insults though.

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 09:41 PM

Everything you've said is completely out of perspective. You're just not getting essence of the argument. Oh well, I tried even though I guessed it might be a waste of time.
You're well practiced with the insults though.

Explain then o wise one. Would you like a debate about Hezbollah weapons v the Israeli Arsenal ?? Terror tactics v terror tactics ??

Just because the ISRAELI arsenal is more advanced and has more firepower than the Hezbollah/palastenian arsenal what you dont realize is that both kill and instill fear in both sets of the population no matter waht the fuck they have :rolleyes:

Now if you want to debate the ... shud the palestinians roll over and die debate... of course they shouldn't you fucking no mark

How old are you btw a very relevant question and dont fucking lie :D

freedom1st

02-02-2010, 09:57 PM

Explain then o wise one. Would you like a debate about Hezbollah weapons v the Israeli Arsenal ?? Terror tactics v terror tactics ??

Just because the ISRAELI arsenal is more advanced and has more firepower than the Hezbollah/palastenian arsenal what you dont realize is that both kill and instill fear in both sets of the population no matter waht the fuck they have :rolleyes:

Now if you want to debate the ... shud the palestinians roll over and die debate... of course they shouldn't you fucking no mark

How old are you btw a very relevant question and dont fucking lie :D

Your allotted time of me accommodating a moron has just expired.

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 10:15 PM

Your allotted time of me accommodating a moron has just expired.

Oh dear :D Its hard when you have some1 who actully knows the coup eh about warefare and the implications it has on civvies, AND NOT SOME DRIVEL ON MSM .
C YA :D

velma

02-02-2010, 10:29 PM

Oh dear :D Its hard when you have some1 who actully knows the coup eh about warefare and the implications it has on civvies, AND NOT SOME DRIVEL ON MSM .
C YA :D

At least Freedom1st can spell? What age r u - twelve?

As for the implications of warfare on civvies; make the IDF and Mossad stop waging it and the problem is solved.

"If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” Gutle Schnaper (Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife speaking on her deathbed in 1849)

entrangermercenary

02-02-2010, 10:33 PM

At least Freedom1st can spell? What age r u - twelve?

As for the implications of warfare on civvies; make the IDF and Mossad stop waging it and the problem is solved.

"If my sons did not want wars, there would be none.” Gutle Schnaper (Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife speaking on her deathbed in 1849)

You make them stop. Go stand on a wall and wave a white flag at them in the gaza strip. :rolleyes:

Cant you read I dont care what Israel or the Palestinians do to each other
Im just letting you know how the civilian population think when under fire, something I pray you will never have to experience !!

Spelling that's for students to worry about :rolleyes:

logos880

02-02-2010, 11:37 PM

I agree but do you honestly think that peaceful non-cooperation would work in the case of the Palestinians? All that would happen is that Israel would finish the job.

The real conflict is not between Israel and Palestine; the real conflict is the middle class and poor class against the elite. Peaceful non-cooperation must include all of the middle class and poor class (soldiers included) across the world. It is all people vs. the elite not just Palestinians or Israelis.

This conflict between Israel and Palestine is a mind trap meant to lead people down the road of war. By choosing sides in this manufactured conflict it only further reinforces the illusion that this war between Israel and Palestine is necessary.

transcendental stallion

03-02-2010, 02:04 AM

Hezbollah tactics during July war (ØØ±Ø¨ ØªÙ…ÙˆØ²) live action - YouTube
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Haifa Under Attack - July 16th 2006 Israel - YouTube

logos880

03-02-2010, 04:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxktmwT5s70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOdKtMsahpk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WdP-krvCSg&feature=related

Wow hezbollah is efficient at murdering people that's sure something to be excited about...if you're a sadist.

realy

03-02-2010, 04:58 PM

Hey what planet are you on?
Or are you getting paid to stick up this shit?

http://www.ojaipost.com/end_of_Zionism_equals_peace.jpg

:D:D

sloughi

03-02-2010, 05:05 PM

Syria warns Israel:`Next war will come to your cities`
BY GEORGE BAGHADI
CBS News

Syria on Wednesday did not rule out a possible war with Israel and used stern language to warn the Jewish state that any future confrontation would be “comprehensive” and reach Israeli cities.

“Israel is indeed planting the seeds of war in the region, I would tell them stop playing the role of thugs in the Middle East,” Syrian Foreign Minister Waleed Mouallem told reporters Tuesday in Damascus.

“One day you threaten Gaza, next day you threaten Lebanon, later Iran and now Syria,” Mouallem said at the news conference with his Spanish counterpart.

“Don’t test, you Israelis, the determination of Syria. You know that war this time would move to your cities. Come to your senses and choose the road of peace. This path is clear,” Mouallem warned.

His remarks were a response to Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak’s own comments on Monday that the absence of a peace agreement with Syria could trigger a new Middle East war.
EXCLUSIVE: US intelligence finds 5,000 Hizballah training to seize Galilee towns
DEBKAfile Special Expose February 1, 2010, 9:19 AM (GMT+02:00) Jones was not talking out of the top of his head, but on the strength of solid US intelligence gathered over months on detailed war plans Iran, Syria, Hizballah and Hamas have drawn up to send five Hizballah brigades sweeping across the border to seize five sectors of Galilee, while also organizing a massive Israeli-Arab uprising against the Jewish state.
Hamas would open a second front in the south and in the east. Syria is expected to step in at some stage.
This plan with attached special map was first published exclusively by DEBKA-Net-Weekly 430 on Jan. 22, 2010. Key excerpts appear here.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards instructors at especially established training facilities near Tehran are already well advanced in training a cadre of 5,000 Hizballah fighters in special operations and urban combat tactics to standards equivalent to those current in similar US and Israeli military forces.

At the outset of the course, the group was split up into five battalions, each given a specific northern Israeli sector for capture with details of its topography and population for close study.

Are you trying to be funny? :rolleyes:

Thats peas compared to the enemy's arsenal and almost does no damage, in terms of human life.

It is like the native americans fought the conquistadors.
In Hezbollah's situation the natives will win.
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=58743
http://www.debka.com/article/8575/

hadabusa

03-02-2010, 05:06 PM

t stallion, a internet warmonger:rolleyes:

get plane ticket to gaza and fight or stfu.

same goes4militant zionists.

yall can fck off.

flickflack

03-02-2010, 06:03 PM

Gosh, he must have learnt how to read and write at the same time as he was learning false history.

You think you are being funny? :confused:

firstlook

03-02-2010, 06:16 PM

These threads are funny, its like war game scenarios. lol.

logos880

03-02-2010, 06:21 PM

These threads are funny, its like war game scenarios. lol.

Funny or sad, these threads always entice the sadistic war lovers into posting. :(:D

firstlook

03-02-2010, 07:00 PM

Funny or sad, these threads always entice the sadistic war lovers into posting. :(:D

;)

transcendental stallion

04-02-2010, 12:51 AM

Wow hezbollah is efficient at murdering people that's sure something to be excited about...if you're a sadist.
Something to be excited about if you know enjoy the probability of troublesome israel being destroyed.
Syria warns Israel against military offensive
Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:50:46 GMT

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Muallem has cautioned Israel against any act of adventurism and launching a war against his country, saying such a move would only endanger the regime's stability.

"Israelis, do not test the power of Syria since you know the war will move into your cities," Muallem told a media conference with his visiting Spanish counterpart Miguel Angel Moratinos in Damascus on Wednesday.

"Return to reason, follow the path of peace ... and implement the requirements of peace fairly and comprehensively," he added.

"If a war breaks out in the region... it will be widespread even if it is waged against southern Lebanon or Syria," Muallem warned.

Under the auspices of Turkey, Israel and Syria have held four rounds of indirect talks aimed at a comprehensive peace agreement. Negotiations, however, reached a stalemate in September 2009.

Syria withdrew from the talks in protest at Israel's December 2008-January 2009 military offensive against the Gaza Strip. At least 1,400 Palestinians were killed and 5,400 others were injured during the three-week long offensive. http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=117787&sectionid=351020206

logos880

04-02-2010, 01:34 AM

Something to be excited about if you know enjoy the probability of troublesome israel being destroyed.

Does it bother you knowing that "israel being destroyed" would involve the deaths of countless innocent people?

sloughi

07-02-2010, 09:57 PM

Report: Israeli warships on way to Persian Gulf
Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:48:11 GMT
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As Israel keeps threatening the regional countries with war, Egyptian maritime sources say the Israeli navy has deployed two missile ships to the Persian Gulf.

Citing the sources, Yediot Ahronot reported Saturday that two Israeli missile ships passed through the Suez Canal en rout to the Red Sea on Thursday morning.

The sources said the ships are expected to reach the Persian Gulf within the next four days.

According to the report, Cairo adopted tight security measures to ensure the safe passage of the Israeli ships through the canal.

The waterway, which had not previously been used by Israeli vessels for intelligence reasons, was traversed for the first time in June 2009 when a Dolphin-class submarine (a nuclear German-made submarine) reportedly sailed from the Mediterranean to reach military exercises in the Red Sea.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=118083&sectionid=351020205

freedom1st

07-02-2010, 10:02 PM

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=118083&sectionid=351020205

Satan doing his work!

sloughi

12-02-2010, 07:27 PM

Satan doing his work!
Let's just hope that ,for a CHANGE, israel isn't all tall and pick on someone better armed than Palestinians.
Ahmadinejad warns Israel against any military move
By Agency Reporter, Published: Thursday, 11 Feb 2010

Iran‘s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel should be resisted and finished off if it launched military action in the region, state broadcaster IRIB reported on Thursday.

Reuters said Ahmadeinjad‘s comments were made when the president spoke over the telephone with his Syrian counterpart late on Wednesday.

Last week, Syria -- a key regional ally of Iran -- accused Israel of pushing the Middle East toward a new war.

Lebanese Prime Minister Saad al-Hariri, in an interview broadcast on Wednesday, said Israeli aircraft were making daily incursions into Lebanese air space, creating a very dangerous situation.

”We have reliable information ... that the Zionist regime is after finding a way to compensate for its ridiculous defeats from the people of Gaza and Lebanon‘s Hezbollah,” Ahmadinejad told Syria‘s Bashar al-Assad, referring to conflicts in 2006 and 2009.

”If the Zionist regime should repeat its mistakes and initiate a military operation, then it must be resisted with full force to put an end to it once and for all.”
http://img.timeinc.net/time/personoftheyear/2005/people/photos/ahmadinejad.jpg

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art2010021111531043

transcendental stallion

17-02-2010, 04:47 PM

Nasrallah: Hezbollah will hit Tel Aviv airport if attacked
Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:40:37 GMT

Hezbollah Secretary General Seyyed Hassan Nasrallah has warned that the movement will strike Israel's infrastructure, including its airports and refineries, in the event of any Israeli attack on Lebanon.

During an address commemorating the assassination of three Hezbollah leaders by Israel, Nasrallah vowed to bomb Israel's Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv should the regime hit Beirut's international airport in any future war.

"If you hit Rafik al-Hariri international airport in Beirut, we will hit Ben-Gurion airport in Tel Aviv," he said via a live video link in Beirut's southern suburbs on Tuesday.

"If you hit our ports, we will bomb your ports, and if you hit our oil refineries, we will bomb your oil refineries," he added.

He also threatened that should Israel bomb Lebanon's refineries, factories or power plants, the movement would retaliate with all its might. http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=118765&sectionid=351020203

sloughi

15-04-2010, 09:11 PM

Hizbullah admits receiving Syrian scuds
By JPOST STAFF AND ASSOCIATED PRESS
15/04/2010 14:54

Hizbullah sources confirmed Thursday that the terror group received a shipment of Scud missiles from Syria, the Kuwaiti paper Al-Rai reported.

According to the report, the missiles were claimed to be old and unusable. Hizbullah also accused Israel of blowing the incident out of proportion in order to provoke a media ruckus.

The sources added, "Our organization has many surface-to-surface missiles spread across all of Lebanon, in case Israel attacks the country again.”

In spite of this confirmation, the Syrian Foreign Ministry denied the reports, saying Israel was trying to stoke tensions in the Middle East and could be setting the stage for a possible Israeli "aggression" to avoid Middle East peace requirements.

Thursday's Syrian statement comes after President Shimon Peres accused Syria of supplying the Lebanese guerrillas with Scuds for the first time.

Israeli defense officials also have said they believe Hizbullah has Scud missiles, and that their introduction could alter the strategic balance with the Islamic guerrilla group.

In an effort to prevent a new conflict, Al-Rai reported Monday that the US State Department summoned the Syrian ambassador in Washington, Imad Mustafa, and warned him that war could break out if the weapons shipments were not stopped.

At the same time, according to the Wall Street Journal, the IDF came very close recently to attacking a convoy carrying weapons from Syria to Lebanon, but at the last moment decided against it.

The possibility that Syria would transfer Scud missiles to Hizbullah is not a new fear in the Israeli defense establishment.

According to the Kuwaiti daily Al-Rai, Israel sent warnings to Syria through Turkey and Qatar that it would “bomb Lebanese and Syrian targets in case the missiles crossed the border and reached Hizbullah.”

In related news, Col. Ronen Cohen, former head of the Northern Front in Military Intelligence and the current chief intelligence officer for the IDF’s Central Command, said in a research paper that an Israeli bombing of Lebanese national infrastructure would likely unite the Lebanese people behind Hizbullah and its leader, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=173217

rodin

15-04-2010, 09:46 PM

I noticed that some time ago also. It was noted by other members that this forum has gained some UNUSUALLYU strong jewish influence. Relocating threads that shed light on jewish/israeli plots. Reptilian, masonic are allowed so long as it doesn't mention jewish members, activists and plots. What happens when they do? The jews PM one another and BOMBARD the thread with lead heavy disinformation as they have done the threads mentioning Haitan organ-theft by Israel and Jewish coirportaions that have raised funds and pocketed the profits. We can see through this madness.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78453

That was then this is now

(actually it stopped as the New year started)

logos880

16-04-2010, 04:45 AM

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=173217

Why exactly do you give this story a thumbs up? Because of the innocent lives that will be taken by these weapons?

flickflack

16-04-2010, 04:38 PM

Why exactly do you give this story a thumbs up? Because of the innocent lives that will be taken by these weapons?

By my judgment, this guys are antisemitic haters of the Jews. That's why they cheer up with the thought of Lebanon's strengthened war against Israel.

Lebanon's war against Israel is not a new thing, in fact it's part of the culture for them, to fight Israelis... Because they are enemies of the state of Israel, that's why! :mad:

real6

16-04-2010, 04:46 PM

flickflack

16-04-2010, 04:58 PM

No they haven't.

Yes, the Jews have been on the run for the last 2,000 years! It started right after Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus Christ. The Roman empire was not very keen on executing Jesus Christ, but they where encouraged to do it anyway. And the self-hating Jew, Judas Iscariot, helped them. Martin Luther treated Jews bad in his writings for this particular reason. Luther was antisemitic, that is very obvious to my research.

stelios

16-04-2010, 06:39 PM

You keep playing the Jew card but seem to forget one basic point.
Israel has NOTHING to do with Judaism.
In fact why is it that 90% of the world's Jews have chosen NOT to live in Israel?
Israel is a Zionist Apartheid State built upon an ideology of Racism.
Racism against everyone expect for a small Khazar elite.
People like you blindly and slavishly support all that Israel does.
Including all the massacres of the indigenous people and the war crimes.

http://sabbah.biz/mt/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/3174092813_2096f20c71.jpg

http://www.nkusa.org/images/flag-ani.gif

real6

16-04-2010, 07:02 PM

Israel is a Zionist Apartheid State built upon an ideology of Racism.
Racism against everyone expect for a small Khazar elite.
People like you blindly and slavishly support all that Israel does.
Including all the massacres of the indigenous people and the war crimes.

You just said it best bro. They always play that bullshit 'my people' card. Israel is one of the biggest terrorists in the world. They are a part of the axis of evil. Israel/UK/United States.

This link should say it all!!!!!

Israeli crimes against humanity: Gruesome images of charred and mutilated bodies following Israeli air strikes

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2787

To add fuel to the fire.

Here is one, but feel free to look.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=J3&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&resnum=0&q=israeli%20crimes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/05/06/weekinreview/06erla.600.jpg

http://isiria.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/war-crimes-israel.jpg

http://rtsf.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/israeli-war-crimes.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/1/9/1231492008140/The-body-of-a-child-is-re-001.jpg

http://www.uruknet.info/pic.php?f=beirut56.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CCyf0gRP0f0/SWjXESfV9sI/AAAAAAAAAB8/UqfCDkIF5Bg/s400/untitled1.bmp

But you can't break people. They will still be happy

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/wp-content/uploads/israeli_war-crimes-9.jpg

Israel's War Crimes

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090112/falk?rel=hp_currently

The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war.

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Those violations include:

• Collective punishment: The entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants.

• Targeting civilians: The airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East.

• Disproportionate military response: The airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza's elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university.

Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza's besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims.

Certainly the rocket attacks against civilian targets in Israel are unlawful. But that illegality does not give rise to any Israeli right, neither as the Occupying Power nor as a sovereign state, to violate international humanitarian law and commit war crimes or crimes against humanity in its response. I note that Israel's escalating military assaults have not made Israeli civilians safer; to the contrary, the one Israeli killed today after the upsurge of Israeli violence is the first in over a year.

Israel has also ignored recent Hamas diplomatic initiatives to re-establish the truce or ceasefire since its expiration on December 26.

The Israeli airstrikes today, and the catastrophic human toll that they caused, challenge those countries that have been and remain complicit, either directly or indirectly, in Israel's violations of international law. That complicity includes those countries knowingly providing the military equipment including warplanes and missiles used in these illegal attacks, as well as those countries who have supported and participated in the siege of Gaza that itself has caused a humanitarian catastrophe.

I remind all Member States of the United Nations that the UN continues to be bound to an independent obligation to protect any civilian population facing massive violations of international humanitarian law--regardless of what country may be responsible for those violations. I call on all Member States, as well as officials and every relevant organ of the United Nations system, to move on an emergency basis not only to condemn Israel's serious violations, but to develop new approaches to providing real protection for the Palestinian people.

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Press TV/News Analysis/Israeli Organ Theft/12/23/2009 - YouTube

Israel Admits Organ Theft

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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http://israelscrimes.blogspot.com/

This blog created mainly to tell the world about the continuous crimes done by the so called "Israel" against the Arabs in Palestine , Lebanon, Syria, Jordan , Egypt and every where in the world. No long stories here, no useless debates. By pictures only you will see the ugly true face of those "people" and you will discover what an immoral moment in the humankind history it was, when the Western countries allowed this cancer to start.

flickflack

16-04-2010, 07:08 PM

what holocaust?

Are you plagiarizing my original essay or something? :rolleyes:

What holocaust?

I did not question the holocaust at all, it was meant to be read for those who do, those that are denying the holocaust. You can click the blue arrow of the quote to get there, or you could just wait a few weeks to my revised essay is complete. Thanks.

real6

16-04-2010, 07:14 PM

http://www.albionmonitor.com/0305a/copyright/israelwater2.html

The government of Ariel Sharon persists in building a wall to separate Israel from the Palestinian territories.

Begun in 2002, the wall is an extensive barrier made of brick and electrified wire, supplemented with patrol routes, ostensibly intended to ensure greater security for Israel from attacks by radical Palestinian groups.

But Palestinian sources say the wall is much more than that. The best farmland and water sources are on the Israeli side of the wall, they say, which in its first phase is being constructed in the northern part of the West Bank.

"In West Bank towns like Tulkarem and Jenin families were left with land on one side of the wall and water on the other," Taher Nasser al-Din, director of the West Bank Water Department, told Tierramérica.

According to local official, some 8,000 residents of another West Bank town, Qalkilya, had to abandon their homes and search for new lands due lack of access to water.

But Uri Shor, spokesman for the Israeli Water Commission, said in a conversation with Tierramerica that the wall is only a response to the need for security. He assured that the water pipes can pass from either side, so that the wall does not have to change a thing.

Water has proved to be a symbolic element of what separates the Israelis and Palestinians, whose ongoing conflict has been intensified since 2000, with the beginning of the second intifada, or Palestinian uprising, triggered by Sharon's provocative visit to an Islamic holy site.

Because of water's scarcity in the Middle East, it is a precious commodity to the people in the region and has often been the motive of political tensions.

But there are those who believe that with rational management, water could also contribute to unity.

For now, the only thing clear to Israel and the Palestinian Authority is that water reserves are insufficient and the problem will only worsen until a broad program for desalinization is implemented.

Nearly a fifth of the Palestinian population of 4 million does not have access to household water services. In some areas, like the northern West Bank city of Jenin, residents complain that they go days without water, the pipelines are dry, even though they are included in the water service network.

Under the 1993 Oslo Peace Accords, Israel must provide 70 to 80 million cubic meters of water annually to the Palestinian population for immediate necessities, Nabil Al-Sharif, director of the Palestinian Water Authority, told Tierramérica.

"The situation is better than in 1995. Today we have more water. But Israel has not been totally compliant because they should authorize us to dig more wells," he said.

But Uri Shor says Israel has adhered strictly to the quantities agreed in the Oslo Accords, and has even distributed more than the quota to the Palestinians.

Of the 2.5 million Palestinians living in the West Bank, some 160,000 to 200,000 do not have household potable water services and are supplied by water tanks, according to Palestinian sources.

Meanwhile the 6.7 million Israelis consume at least three times as much water as the Palestinians.

"If one takes into account the water consumed by industry, in Israel water usage per person reaches 128 cubic meters, or 350 liters per person per day. Five times more than Palestinian water usage per person," reports Betselem, an Israeli human rights organization.

But it is when the two sides begin to explain this phenomenon that the discrepancies come to the fore.

The Palestinians say that the different levels of water consumption are the result of a discriminatory Israeli policy, especially when it comes to supplying the Jewish settlements in Palestinian territories and providing for the Arab villages and homes in the same areas.

Israel responds that the problem lies in the lack of an appropriate Palestinian water management plan.

Although shortages and poor quality of water are common throughout the Palestinian territories, the tensions with Israel run highest in the West Bank.

The region's two main reservoirs are located there. One is an aquifer that extends from Mount Carmel in the north to Bersheeva in the south, and to the Dead Sea in the east, encompassing the West Bank.

That source is what supplies a quarter of Israeli consumption, of the Jewish settlements and nearly all the Palestinian population.

The second major source is the upper Jordan River and its tributaries, providing water for nearly a third of Israel's consumption, as well as providing for Jordan, Syria and Lebanon. The Palestinians do not receive any water from that source, as Israel claims it is already being shared with Jordan, points out West Bank water official Al-Din.

More than 60 percent of domestic water consumption in the West Bank is supplied by Mekorot, an Israeli national enterprise. The rest is managed by the Palestinian municipal authorities. In the Gaza Strip, Mekorot provides just six percent of household water supplies. Meanwhile, Palestinian agriculture relies exclusively on local wells and rivers.

"In the West Bank, no Palestinian can say that he or she is receiving less water than last year -- or than before the Oslo Accords. They are receiving more. The system is working at full capacity," Mekorot director Amos Epshtein told Tierramérica.

Over the course of the clashes since the intifada began, the Israeli army damaged wells in Gaza and the West Bank, according to Palestinian sources.

"I have signed a protocol with the Israeli water commissioner Simon Tal to keep water out of the conflict because it is a daily necessity. Israel has begun to abide by it," said Al-Sharif, the Palestinian Authority's water official.

Water management and distribution in the Palestinian areas will be shifted to five public, non-profit entities, run by a private international company chosen through a bidding process, he said.

These entities will be in charge of extracting and distributing the water, as well as managing the network. Their work will begin in Gaza.

However, the technicians seem to be more pleased than the politicians about the solutions to the water problem.

"Water is a central issue for peace, and if the politicians resolve the political problems, I have no doubts that the water problem will be resolved," commented Al-Sharif.

Epshtein expressed similarly cautious optimism: "The solution lies in working together and in finding a shared formula." Otherwise, both sides will be stuck in the same bad situation, he warned.

Water in Palestine

West Bank Water Usage

* Of the water available from West Bank aquifers, Israel uses 73%, West Bank Palestinians use 17%, and illegal Jewish settlers use 10%.
* While 10-14% of Palestine’s GDP is agricultural, 90% of them must rely on rain-fed farming methods. Israel’s agriculture is only 3% of their GDP, but Israel irrigates more than 50% of its land.
* Three million West Bank Palestinians use only 250 million cubic meters per year (83 cubic meters per Palestinian per year) while six million Israelis enjoy the use of 1,954 million cubic meters (333 cubic meters per Israeli per year), which means that each Israeli consumes as much water as four Palestinians. Israeli settlers are allocated 1,450 cubic meters of water per person per year.
* Israel consumes the vast majority of the water from the Jordan River despite only 3% of the river falling within its pre-1967 borders. Israel now diverts one quarter of its total water consumption through its National Water Carrier from the Jordan River, whereas Palestinians have no access to it whatsoever due to Israeli closures.

“There is no reason for Palestinians to claim that just because they sit on lands, they have the rights to that water.”

– Mr. Katz-Oz, Israel’s negotiator on water issues [1]
International Law

* Under international law it is illegal for Israel to expropriate the water of the Occupied Palestinian Territories for use by its own citizens, and doubly illegal to expropriate it for use by illegal Israeli settlers [2].
* Also under international law, Israel owes Palestinians reparations for past and continuing use of water resources. This should include interest due to loss of earnings from farming.

Israeli Actions

* Israel does not allow new wells to be drilled by Palestinians and has confiscated many wells for Israeli use. Israel sets quotas on how much water can be drawn by Palestinians from existing wells.

An Israeli lawn is watered with five sprinklers.
Israeli settlers have no restrictions on water use.

* When supplies of water are low in the summer months, the Israeli water company Mekorot closes the valves which supply Palestinian towns and villages so as not to affect Israeli supplies. This means that illegal Israeli settlers can have their swimming pools topped up and lawns watered while Palestinians living next to them, on whose land the settlements are situated, do not have enough water for drinking and cooking.
* Israel often sells the water it steals from the West Bank back to the Palestinians at inflated prices.
* During the war of 1967, 140 Palestinian wells in the Jordan Valley were destroyed to divert water through Israel’s National Water Carrier. Palestinians were allowed to dig only 13 wells between 1967 and 1996, less than the number of wells which dried up during the same period due to Israel’s refusal to deepen or rehabilitate existing wells.
* The Gaza strip relies predominately on wells that are being increasingly infiltrated by salty sea water because Israel is over-pumping the groundwater. UN scientists estimate that Gaza will have no drinkable water within fifteen years.

Settlers

Yanoun spring
The main spring in the Palestinian village of Yanoun suffers damages and contamination inflicted by illegal Israeli settlers.

* In Madama village 50km north of Jerusalem settlers from Yizhar settlement have repeatedly vandalized the villager’s only source of water. They have poured concrete into it, vandalized the connecting pipes and even dropped disposable diapers and other hazardous waste into the springs. Three villagers have been attacked by settlers while trying to repair the water source [3].
* Constant settler attacks on the community of Yanoun, Nablus governorate, located next to the Itamar settlement, peaked in October 2002 when masked settlers charged into the village with dogs and caused significant damage to the water network, several roof tanks, and the local spring, which is considered to be the main source of water for the community. The main line supplying water to the community from the main spring, as well as the pump, reservoir, fittings and valves were all damaged by settlers. Residents of the community were forced to buy water from tankers from the neighboring community. Tanker access was very difficult due to Israeli closures and checkpoints as well as settler threats and terror which included shootings, beatings, and harassment [4].

Water and the Wall

water reservoir
This water reservoir, located in the village of Attil, Tulkarem district, is isolated by the Wall from the community it serves. It is in the area between the Wall and the Green Line, which Israel is attempting to annex in violation of the Road Map and of international law.

* Many of the most important underground wellsprings in the West Bank are located just to the east of the Green Line dividing Israel from Palestine. Israel has built the Wall not only to annex land but also to annex many of these wells in order to divert water to Israel and illegal West Bank settlements.
* The Wall is not only an Apartheid Wall, but also a water wall. Some of the largest Israeli settlements (such as Ariel and Qedumin) are built over the Western mountain aquifer, directly in the middle of the northern West Bank agricultural districts, and this is exactly where the wall cuts deepest into Palestinian territory to surround and annex this vital water source.
* The building of the Wall has caused the village of Falamya in Qalqiliya district to lose its main source of water. In Jayyous, a village near Falamya, all of its seven water wells have been annexed or destroyed by the Apartheid Wall.
* In the West Bank, around 50 groundwater wells and over 200 cisterns have been destroyed or isolated from their owners by the Wall. This water was used for domestic and agricultural needs by over 122,000 people. To build the Wall, 25 wells and cisterns and 35,000 meters of water pipes have also been destroyed [5].
* In 2003, the losses incurred by Palestinian farmers due to the Wall diverting water resources has been 2,200 tons of olive oil, 50,000 tons of fruit, and 100,000 tons of vegetables [6].
* The Wall is obstructing many water run-off flows in the Qalqiliya region that normally divert water to prevent flooding. During heavy rains in February 2005, Israeli soldiers refused to open drainage pipes in Qalqiliya, which led to heavy flood damage to crops and homes there. The Wall also caused severe flooding in Zububa and other villages.

Under the conditions brought about by the siege imposed by Israeli occupation forces, civilians in the occupied territories are suffering from lack of access to necessary resources for the maintenance of their daily needs and basic health. We have reached a state of emergency in the water sector in the Occupied Territories. We must call for an immediate end to the siege upon the water sector.

Israel is Stealing Palestinian and Arab Water

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18299

World Water Day is upon us. Initiated by the United Nations in 1992 during its Conference on Environment and Development, 22 March 1993 was chosen as the first international day for water aiming to draw attention to the importance of fresh water and its availability. The commemoration of the day has since focused every year on a different aspect of the difficulties faced by people in obtaining fresh water.

There is no doubt that UN interest in this matter is of great importance, although the world body needs to do more than merely have an annual day on the issue. What is required is for the UN to put an end to the monopoly of water by any state which has water sources within its borders and to put an end to the diversion and theft of water from occupied lands.

When an occupying power exploits the resources of the occupied land at the expense of the original inhabitants, it builds itself on the ruins of what it has destroyed, and such theft of resources is obvious, even when the occupier tries to hide its actions behind noble principles. This malfeasance is made worse by claiming that the land in question is a gift from God and politically-motivated myths such as it is "a land without a people for a people without land". When such wrongdoing is compounded even further by acts of genocide against the indigenous people, killing thousands and dispossessing hundreds of thousands in acts of ethnic cleansing, the situation is very serious indeed. Following on from the efforts to destroy the necessities of life for those under occupation, the occupier has sought to control the main necessity, the water resources. The de facto annexation and control of water in the occupied Palestinian territories has always been, alongside the colonisation of land, one of Israel’s priorities.

This long-standing aim of the Jewish state has been confirmed by confidential documents published by the British Foreign Office, in which David Ben-Gurion, writing in 1941, said, "We have to remember that for the Jewish state's ability to survive it must have within its borders, the waters of the [rivers] Jordan and Litani."

Israel's control of Arab water
Since 1948 the Israeli authorities have sought to control the majority of the water resources in Palestine.

After the 1967 war Israel gained control of the main Arab water sources in the Middle East,

1. The upper Jordan River basin, which originates from Lebanon and Syria:

Israel Seized the Jordan River and stored its water in Lake Tiberius (the Sea of Galilee), then transported the water from north to south to feed the different areas of Israel. Israel gets 60% of this water, while Jordan gets 25% and Syria 15%, despite its source being within Syria’s borders. It has also prevented the Palestinians from reaching the Jordan River, destroyed all their pumps on the river and evicted the farmers.

2. As a result of the diversion of water from the river by Israel the land on both banks has been affected, while the salt level in the water has increased considerably.

3. Yarmouk River basin shared between Jordan and Syria:

When Israel occupied the Golan Heights, it prevented Syria from benefiting from its water; today 30% of Israel's water comes from the Golan Heights. It also captured the Syrian water source in the Yarmouk River Basin. The Golan Heights is the main source of water flowing to the Jordan River and Lake Tiberius, which provide water to Syria, Jordan and Palestine; this is why Israel refuses to give up these water sources in any negotiations with Syria.

4. Large underground reservoirs in the West Bank, known as the Reservoir of the Mountain and the Mountain-Well; the Palestinians have been unable to have access to them since 1967.

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When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978 it controlled nearly 30% of the Litani River, and during the occupation of Lebanon in 1982 the Israelis benefited from the Wazzani and the Litani’s waters, transferring water from them to Israel, while expelling the Lebanese farmers dependent on them.
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In 1989 the Israelis took advantage of the Hasbani and Wazzani waters by installing pipes for themselves, and despite withdrawing from Lebanon in 2000 there are still many Israeli artesian wells on the borders which reduce the groundwater in Lebanese territory.
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Israel uses various means to control the waters of the River Nile, which is 6825 km long and has two main sources; the Equatorial Lakes Region of Southern Sudan and the Ethiopian plateau. Israel tries from time to time to cooperate with Ethiopia to build dams and other facilities to control the Nile waters, seeking to reduce Egypt’s share of water and put pressure on it in order to secure its share of Nile water. This much has been disclosed by senior officials.

Control over the waters of the West Bank and Gaza and the water crisis threaten their populations

Since Israel began its occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip it has striven to remain in control of the water resources and diverted water from the Palestinian territories to the cities and settlements set up on the ruins of Palestinian towns destroyed in 1948.

Abdel-Rahman Tamimi, a water expert, says that the water battle with the occupation started early on, with military orders and systematic control of water basins, wells and springs since the occupation of the West Bank started in 1967. According to Mr. Tamimi, the water sources were placed under the control of the Israeli Civil Administration in the 1970s, and even after the Oslo agreement they remained under Israeli control, "which exacerbated the water problem in the West Bank."

The Gaza Strip depends on the coastal underground water reservoir that lies under the Mediterranean Sea between Rafah in the south and north of Mount Carmel, a total area of 2200 km2, of which 400 km2 is located underneath the Gaza Strip. This groundwater is largely independent of the groundwater inside Israel because of the flow of water in an east-west direction into the reservoir; thus, the amount of water available to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip would be reasonable had Israel not confiscated more than 80% of the Palestinian groundwater to make up 20% of the Israelis’ total water consumption which stands at 2 billion cubic metres per annum. Due to this, it is estimated that this underground fresh water source will run dry within the next 8 years.

The Palestinian Water Authority has explained that the Gaza Strip is suffering from an annual water deficit of up 70 million cubic metres, noting that as a result of natural population growth in the Strip there are now more than a million and a half people depending on a single source of water, the coastal aquifer, to meet their needs. The authority also noted the negative effect on the quality of groundwater due to sea water intrusion, causing high salinity and adding to the high concentration of nitrates in the water, caused by the leakage of sewage and the return underground of irrigation water.

The authority’s report states that 90-95% of groundwater used for domestic purposes is not fit for human consumption and not compliant with the World Health Organization standards for drinking water, in terms of quality and quantity, which constitutes a serious threat to health and is a cause of many diseases affecting the population of the Gaza Strip.

The Water Authority says that the rate of water available per person per day is about 80 litres, equivalent to half the recommendation of the World Health Organization.

The West Bank depends on artesian wells for drinking and agricultural purposes. The capacity of running water and water springs in the West Bank ranges, according to the estimates of many experts, between 30 and 50 million cubic metres annually. The springs in the West Bank are estimated to have a capacity of about 75-115 million cubic metres. This was before the Israelis began to use 730 wells in the West Bank for different purposes. There are now 214 wells, of which only 20 are reserved for household purposes, functioning with a production capacity set by the Israeli authorities at about 37.9 million cubic metres annually. The remaining wells have dried up due to pumping from deep wells dug by the Israeli military authorities, or due to being abandoned.

The rate of water consumption of Israel citizens is 344 million cubic metres per year, while the consumption of Palestinians stands at 93 million cubic metres per year. The domestic consumption of Israelis amounts to 98 million cubic metres, while for Palestinians it comes to 56 million cubic metres per year. It is clear that the Israelis use and waste more water than anyone else in the region.

A study has been made of this issue by the Palestinian Institute for Economic Policy Research (MAS), prepared by Annan Jayyousi, a lecturer at the Faculty of Engineering in Al-Najah University and an expert on the subject of water, and Fathi Srougi, an expert on geopolitical issues relating to water.

Jayyousi referred to the volume of water resources in historic Palestine, which is estimated by Israelis hydrologists at about 2250 million cubic metres of renewable water, and includes 3 reserves within the West Bank area producing about 679 million cubic metres of water. According to international law, this water belongs to the Palestinians but they only get 118 million cubic metres. In other words, Palestinians get just 15% of their own water while the rest is consumed by Israelis.

Regarding the use of water for domestic purposes Jayussi said, "The supply quantity is estimated at about 130 million cubic metres in the West Bank and Gaza Strip; this means that the average person's water supply is estimated at around 97 litres per day. That said however, the actual average consumption falls short of 70 litres per day, due to the high rate of wasted water." This is due to overdue maintenance work on the pipe network, among other reasons. Jayussi estimates use by the industrial sector at a total of about 9 million cubic metres annually.

In the agricultural sector, the study shows that the average share of irrigated land for an individual is only 0.071 dunams (1000 m2). Furthermore the use of water for irrigation does not exceed 45 cubic metres per person, which is less than the prevailing rates in Jordan and Israel.

It must be noted that Israel has not allowed the Palestinians to control their water according to their needs, but tied them up in resolutions through which the Jewish state:

1. Limits the amount of water withdrawals to no more than 100 cubic metres per hour.

2. Limits the depth of drilled wells to 140 metres, requiring specific types of old pumps which are permitted in the West Bank, essentially limiting the capacity to extract water from these wells.

3. Dug huge wells in strategic areas where water accumulates across the West Bank and the Gaza Strip in order to steal Palestinian water (60 wells in the West Bank, 43 in the Gaza Strip, and 26 along the armistice line between Gaza and Israel.

4. Adopted a strategy of building small dams to prevent the natural flow of surface water to the Palestinian areas thus allowing the transfer of high quality water from Israeli settlements in the Palestinian territories into Israeli cities, or selling this water to the Palestinians.

5. Builds settlements such that they are in areas with the highest quality underground water reserves to allow Israel to seize the water, directly or indirectly, a policy which has lead to the depletion of groundwater in the Gaza Strip.

According to a study by the Palestinian Information Centre, 150 Palestinian residential communities in the West Bank are not part of the water distribution networks. Most residents in these communities suffer from water shortages.

Hebron as a model

The city of Hebron, in the south of the West Bank, is considered the most deprived Palestinian city in terms of lack of water, where the average Palestinian individual consumes as little as 10 litres of water per day for extended periods of time.

The water problem in Hebron is primarily a result of the Israeli occupation authority’s control over water basins; Palestinians are not permitted to dig wells and the Israelis do not provide the water necessary for daily use. An example illustrates the measures to which the Israelis are prepared to go with this: the Israeli army surprised four citizens from the village of Soba, west of Hebron as they were drilling a well to collect rainwater; they were surrounded and arrested, their equipment was confiscated; they were fined and finally released with strict orders not to resume drilling.

Abdel-Rahman Rajoub has commented on this: "What is strange is that one of the detainees said that they had told the investigating officer, during the eight days that they were in custody, that the drilling was simply for the purpose of collecting rainwater. The officer accused them of 'stealing groundwater’ and told them that rainwater collection is 'forbidden’."

Pools of water destroyed in Hebron

To the east of Hebron, the Israeli army destroyed four large pools that collect water, and deprived large areas of agricultural land of irrigation water, causing great losses to dozens of farmers. Several said that this is in order "to harass the Palestinians and force them into leaving the area, in order to clear it for settlement building."

The residents in this fertile region have resorted to making holes in water pipes to get the water needed to irrigate their crops, even though this is at the expense of their drinking water.

The impact of constructing the wall on water sources in the West Bank

In addition to the tactics noted above that are employed by the Israelis to seize Palestinian water, the occupation authority has used the illegal "separation wall" to ensure that it also has control of three of the most important Palestinian water basins, depriving the Palestinians of their right of access in order to send this water to settlements. As the construction of what is basically an apartheid wall continues in the West Bank, Palestinian official sources confirm that it will annex to Israel about 95% of the water that is accessible in the Western Basin, which is estimated at about 362 million metres.

The area isolated behind the western part of the wall lies above two basins; the western basin and north-east basin, which have an estimated annual capacity of 507 million cubic metres. The area isolated in the east lies completely over the eastern basin which has an estimated capacity of 172 million cubic metres annually. Water is extracted from these aquifers by pumping from wells or from the natural springs. The estimated number of groundwater wells in these regions is 165 with a pumping capacity of 33 million cubic metres per year; the number of springs is estimated to be 53, with a capacity of 22 million cubic metres per year.

In the Jenin, Qalqilya and Tulkarem provinces, the land annexed by the wall is entirely congruent with the locations of groundwater, meaning that all the groundwater reserves are on the wrong that is, the Israeli side of the wall. This renders as useless any Palestinian attempt to extract water from those reserves; as such, the wall threatens to drive to extinction irrigated agriculture in the north of the West Bank.

According to the report by the Palestinian Water Authority, the wall has led to the loss of Palestinian access to more than 36 wells, which includes 23 located directly on the route of the wall, and 13 others nearby that were used for agriculture and drinking; these wells now lie between the wall and the old "Green Line" (the 1967 armistice line). The wells used to pump about 55 million cubic metres per annum, around 25% of the total extracted from the Western reservoir. The occupation authorities are also seeking, through the route of the wall, to seize more than 400 m3 which constitutes the entire capacity of the renewable groundwater West Basin, of which most is accumulated within the borders of the Palestinian West Bank.

Contamination of groundwater reserves in the West Bank and Gaza Strip

Israel drains the Palestinian groundwater, which has led to an increase in the levels of salts, nitrates and chlorides, as well as heavy metal contaminations such as copper and lead, which deem it unsuitable for drinking or agricultural use. The draining of wells has also caused severe leakage of salty groundwater into fresh groundwater in the West Bank; in the Gaza Strip seawater has leaked into the groundwater basin to fill the vacuum.

The spread of diseases

The Palestinian Ministry of Health confirms the results of tests showing that the water in the networks is contaminated frequently, leading to the spread of diseases among the population. Analysis has shown a link between the contamination of water and the spread of diseases, such as typhoid fever, meningitis and cholera. An official in the Ministry of Health monitoring committee confirmed that they are examining all water continually, whether it is drinking water, for agriculture or for other uses. He said, "There is an ongoing process of filtration and purification of the water in the wells which reduces the contamination and salt levels in the water." The Israeli security forces hinder or prevent the implementation of many projects that have the potential to solve this problem, he added.

Conclusion

From the above we note that Israel is the cause of the water crisis for Palestinians in particular and for Arabs in general, a fact that the Jewish state refuses to acknowledge. Israel will continue with its plans to control more water resources, especially as it seeks to attract ever-greater numbers of Jewish immigrants.

Unfortunately, the Oslo agreement deferred negotiations of the issue of water to the anticipated 'final status’ agreement, which was one mistake amongst many committed by the Palestinian negotiators. By agreeing to defer consideration of the most important issues until the 'final status’ talks (including the status of Jerusalem, the return of refugees as well as the water issue), they have allowed Israel to introduce many changes and "facts on the ground" which the Palestinians will just have to accept.

The Jewish state avoids discussing the core issues such as the water problems of the Palestinians and tries to shift the focus to long-term solutions such as the search for alternative water sources, desalination plants and a reduction in the amount needed for agriculture.

It is worth remembering that unless proposals include Palestinian control over their own natural water resources, it is useless to talk about an independent Palestinian state, with real sovereignty over its air, land and sea. It is equally useless, to consider achieving genuine peace.

The United Nations should take its responsibilities seriously and oblige Israel to end its illegal occupation of Palestinian land, giving back to the Palestinians their inalienable rights, including control of its natural resources. As long as Israel is treated with kid gloves by the international community, as a state which is above the law, peace talks – proximity or direct – will continue to be diplomatic devices to give the Israelis more time to create more facts on the ground; and genuine peace and justice will remain as elusive as ever.

real6

16-04-2010, 07:15 PM

http://original.antiwar.com/cook/2010/02/04/report-israel-stole-2b-from-palestinian-workers/

Over the past four decades Israel has defrauded Palestinians working inside Israel of more than $2 billion by deducting from their salaries contributions for welfare benefits to which they were never entitled, Israeli economists have revealed.

A new report, “State Robbery”, to be published later this month, says the “theft” continued even after the Palestinian Authority was established in 1994 and part of the money was supposed to be transferred to a special fund on behalf of the workers.

According to information supplied by Israeli officials, most of the deductions from the workers’ pay were invested in infrastructure projects in the Palestinian territories — a presumed reference to the massive state subsidies accorded to the settlements.

Nearly 50,000 Palestinians from the West Bank are working in Israel — following the easing of restrictions on entering Israel under the “economic peace” promised by Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister — and continue to have such contributions docked from their pay.

Complicit in the deception, the report adds, is the Histadrut, the Israeli labor federation, which levies a monthly fee on Palestinian workers, even though they are not entitled to membership and are not represented in labor disputes.

“This is a clear-cut case of theft from Palestinian workers on a grand scale,” said Shir Hever, a Jerusalem-based economist and one of the authors of the report. “There are no reasons for Israel to delay in returning this money either to the workers or to their beneficiaries.”

The deductions started being made in 1970, three years after the Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories began, when Palestinian workers started to enter Israel in significant numbers, most of them employed as manual laborers in the agriculture and construction industries.

Typically, the workers lose a fifth of their salary in deductions that are supposed to cover old age payments, unemployment allowance, disability insurance, child benefits, trade union fees, pension fund, holiday and sick pay, and health insurance. In practice, however, the workers are entitled only to disability payments in case of work accidents and are insured against loss of work if their employer goes bankrupt.

According to the report, compiled by two human rights groups, the Alternative Information Center and Kav La’Oved, only a fraction of the total contributions — less than eight per cent — was used to award benefits to Palestinian workers. The rest was secretly transferred to the finance ministry.

The Israeli organizations assess that the workers were defrauded of at least $2.25bn in today’s prices, in what they describe as a minimum and “very conservative” estimate of the misappropriation of the funds. Such a sum represents about 10 per cent of the PA’s annual budget.

The authors also note that they excluded from their calculations two substantial groups of Palestinian workers — those employed in the Jewish settlements and those working in Israel’s black economy — because figures were too hard to obtain.

Mr Hever said the question of whether the bulk of the deductions — those for national insurance — had been illegally taken from the workers was settled by the Israeli High Court back in 1991. The judges accepted a petition from the flower growers’ union that the government should return about $1.5 million in contributions from Palestinian workers in the industry.

“The legal precedent was set then and could be used to reclaim the rest of these excessive deductions,” he said.

At the height of Palestinian participation in the Israeli labor force, in the early 1990s, as many as one in three Palestinian workers was dependent on an Israeli employer.

Israel continued requiring contributions from Palestinian workers after the creation of the Palestinian Authority in 1994, arguing that it needed to make the deductions to ensure Israeli workers remained competitive.

However, the report notes that such practices were supposed to have been curbed by the Oslo process. Israel agreed to levy an “equalization tax” — equivalent to the excessive contributions paid by Palestinians — a third of which would be invested in a fund that would later be available to the workers.

In fact, however, the Israeli State Comptroller, a government watchdog official, reported in 2003 that only about a tenth of the money levied on the workers had actually been placed in the fund.

The finance ministry has admitted that most of the money taken from the workers was passed to Israeli military authorities in the Palestinian territories to pay for “infrastructure programs”. Hannah Zohar, the director of Kav La’Oved who co-authored the report, said she believed that the ministry was actually referring to the construction of illegal settlements.

The report is also highly critical of the Histadrut, Israel’s trade union federation, which it accuses of grabbing “a piece of the pie” by forcing Palestinian workers to pay a monthly “organizing fee” to the union since 1970, even though Palestinians are not entitled to membership.

Despite the Histadrut’s agreement with its Palestinian counterpart in 2008 to repay the fees, only 20 per cent was returned, leaving $30m unaccounted for.

The Histadrut was also implicated in another “rip-off”, said Mr Hever. It agreed in 1990 to the Israeli construction industry’s demand that Palestinian workers pay an extra two per cent tax to promote the training of recent Jewish immigrants, most of them from the former Soviet Union.

Mr Hever said that in effect the Palestinian laborers were required to “subsidize the training of workers meant to replace them”. The funds were never used for the stated purpose but were mainly issued as grants to the families of Israeli workers.

In one especially cynical use of the funds, the report notes, the money was spent on portable stoves for soldiers involved in Israel’s three-week attack on Gaza last year.

In response, the finance ministry called the report “incorrect and misleading”, and the Histadrut claimed it was “full of lies”. However, neither provided rebuttals of the report’s allegations or its calculations.

Mr Hever said the government body responsible for making the deductions, the department of payments, had initially refused to divulge any of its figures, but had partly relented after some statistics were made available through leaks from its staff.

Assef Saeed, a senior official in the Palestinian Authority’s labor ministry, said the PA was keen to discuss the issue of the deductions, but that talks were difficult because of the lack of contacts between the two sides.

flickflack

16-04-2010, 07:30 PM

HezBollah war crimes (http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4442247&ct=5850955)

“We have just returned from a humanitarian mission to frontline communities in northern Israel where we saw and experienced firsthand the suffering of hundreds of thousands of civilians terrorized by a tsunami of rockets and missiles,”

Yes, that was Katusha rockets... :mad:

“We fully support Israel's legitimate right of self-defense in an unprovoked war launched against her internationally recognized territory by a terrorist organization.

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4442247&ct=5850955

real6

16-04-2010, 07:41 PM

HezBollah war crimes (http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4442247&ct=5850955)

Yes, that was Katusha rockets... :mad:

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4442247&ct=5850955

But when you come into a peoples land and take it over, set up illegal settlements, what are a people to do?!?!

flickflack

16-04-2010, 07:51 PM

But when you come into a peoples land and take it over, set up illegal settlements, what are a people to do?!?!

The settlers where building their settlements in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago also, it's not like Israel is not a world-given gift given to save the destiny of the Jews...

petercookie

16-04-2010, 08:22 PM

Just because the ISRAELI arsenal is more advanced and has more firepower than the Hezbollah/palastenian arsenal what you dont realize is that both kill and instill fear in both sets of the population no matter waht the fuck they have

I know they will instill fear, but in my mind there is a big diffrence between being occupied by a army with tanks and planes bombing you, and some RPG .........(I am not saying an RPG is nothing though, of course)

I think if the neigbouring states where as well armed as Israel, Israel would be alot less lightly to bully them.......

And the Israeli people would not support there goverments as easly in attacking other nations because they would know how it feels to feel the fear, if the neigbouring states where as kitted up as they are...........

An analogy is that your neighbour has a gun and he knows that you dont and only have a knife, because of that he then threatens you because he knows he is in a safer position and that him and hes family will be ok, but if the other neighbour was armed the same, there would be alot more respect there in my mind, because they then have the option the defend themselves are are much more equal.............

It would be good for everyone to live peacefully but i think if someone is attacking you, you have the right to defend youself......

logos880

16-04-2010, 09:39 PM

petercookie

16-04-2010, 10:39 PM

Fact of the matter is that in order for there to be a conflict there must be at least two sides. Neither side is innocent when it comes to bloodshed and violence, and yet we have folks on here cheering when one side gets a new more powerful and advanced way to murder people. :( Great, let's keep cheering while these countries line the pockets of weapons manufacturers. :rolleyes:

I am not cheering anyone one on to do murder.........

Like others have said, should they just let themselves be blown to bits?.......Ideally though, there should be no conflict.

But it seems Israel like being the bullys........

logos880

16-04-2010, 11:15 PM

I am not cheering anyone one on to do murder.........

Like others have said, should they just let themselves be blown to bits?.......Ideally though, there should be no conflict.

But it seems Israel like being the bullys........

Are you so sure that Israel are being the aggressor? Maybe they too are just a victim of a manufactured situation. Kind of like putting two trains on the same track going towards one another to see what happens.

edit: I am in no way excusing the atrocities that Israel have committed in the name of war. I'm excusing no one.

stelios

17-04-2010, 05:42 AM

Are you so sure that Israel are being the aggressor? Maybe they too are just a victim of a manufactured situation.
Yes the Zionist entity is the agressor.
Anything the Palestinians or the Lebanese or the Syrians do to protect themselves against the Zionists is self defence.

real6

17-04-2010, 09:01 AM

The settlers where building their settlements in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago also, it's not like Israel is not a world-given gift given to save the destiny of the Jews...

Please, don't give me that 1000 year old bullshit excuse.

hadabusa

17-04-2010, 09:18 AM

The settlers where building their settlements in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago also, it's not like Israel is not a world-given gift given to save the destiny of the Jews...

gimmea break, that werent settlements, a bath then isa hole in the mud

as4op, well israel can nuke you into an ashray:D

logos880

17-04-2010, 03:02 PM

Yes the Zionist entity is the agressor.
Anything the Palestinians or the Lebanese or the Syrians do to protect themselves against the Zionists is self defence.

I've heard the apologists from both sides repeating the same tired arguments. What you've been saying on here is nothing new. Picking sides just further reinforces and energizes this conflict which will lead to more death and destruction and higher profits for the weapons manufacturers.

Honestly, you have a link to a site called "vivapalestina" in your signature...biased much? :rolleyes:

transcendental stallion

17-04-2010, 07:23 PM

Honestly, you have a link to a site called "vivapalestina" in your signature...biased much? :rolleyes:
'Hezbollah ready to confront Israel'
Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:18:03 GMT

Hezbollah Deputy Secretary General Sheikh Naim Qassem says the resistance movement is ready for a possible act of aggression by Israeli forces.

The Hezbollah official made the remark in an interview with an Arab newspaper on Saturday.

Qassem, however, said that the latest warmongering remarks by Israeli officials do not mean that Tel Aviv is preparing for a new attack on Lebanese territories.

He further described the Israeli allegations that Syria is supplying Hezbollah with scud missiles as a "cover-up" for its somewhat uneasy ties with the US and for Israel's nuclear program.

Hezbollah-affiliated government minister Hussein Hajj Hassan also responded to the accusations on Friday, saying the movement's weapons are irrelevant to Tel Aviv.

Hajj Hassan said that Hezbollah is always preparing itself against foreign threats, but "what we have is not their (Israel's) business," Lebanon's al-Manar TV reported.

According to Hajj Hassan, Israel possesses all kinds of weapons so Lebanon will acquire every means it deems necessary to defend itself against an attack from Tel Aviv.

Earlier, the Israeli President Shimon Peres had claimed that Syria provided Hezbollah with Scud missiles capable of reaching targets anywhere in Israel.

Tensions mounted between Israel and Lebanon after the regime's forces crossed into the Lebanese border town of Abbassiyeh last week.

Israeli troops, however; withdrew from the town after Lebanon issued a warning. Coward israel hurried out of the ground because a prolonged presence would have gotten the IDF hurt again. The ground is not like the air. Israel violates airspace repeatedly, but when it's the ground watch them HIGH-TAIL IT!!!!
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=123578&sectionid=351020203

andyh

17-04-2010, 10:27 PM

The state of Israel has never used any nukes in any of their attacks. And we must not forget that in the 1990's, Lebanon fired Katusha-rockets against Israel. And Israel had no way of immediate protection against these kinds of attacks.
Israel is nothing but the victim in this conflict, at least if you think about it as long as I have.

P.S. War against Israel is part of the culture in Lebanon, as it has been revealed by independent news sources.

They once came close to the brink, it's a safe bet the maniacs would have used it. Although Israel have often been "victims" all the other sides have too. The argument about who started it all is pointless unless you take into consideration the Brits leaving the place ;) IMHO the blame lies somewhere else completely than in the middle east.

logos880

18-04-2010, 07:49 PM

Coward israel hurried out of the ground because a prolonged presence would have gotten the IDF hurt again. The ground is not like the air. Israel violates airspace repeatedly, but when it's the ground watch them HIGH-TAIL IT!!!!
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=123578&sectionid=351020203

I don't understand why you quoted me here??

They once came close to the brink, it's a safe bet the maniacs would have used it. Although Israel have often been "victims" all the other sides have too. The argument about who started it all is pointless unless you take into consideration the Brits leaving the place ;) IMHO the blame lies somewhere else completely than in the middle east.

Exactly, this whole conflict is a setup. Was it an accident that the state of Israel was placed dead center in hostile territory?? No way!

sloughi

20-05-2010, 12:40 AM

The Zelzal-2 has the range to hit most of Israel, though with a relatively small conventional warhead. These weapons are well hidden in prepared bunkers and are defended by increasingly effective surface-to-air missile defenses. Significantly, the Hezbollah base network could also come under the protection of the Syrian Air Defense Missile Command.

Brigadier General Yossi Baidatz, the Israeli army's chief intelligence assessment officer, recently told the Knesset (parliament) Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that Syria had also transferred to Hezbollah about 200 M600 rockets that could carry a half-ton warhead and were therefore much more powerful than the Katyushas used in great numbers in the 2006 conflict. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LE19Ak02.html

stelios

20-05-2010, 04:05 AM

I've heard the apologists from both sides repeating the same tired arguments. What you've been saying on here is nothing new. Picking sides just further reinforces and energizes this conflict which will lead to more death and destruction and higher profits for the weapons manufacturers.

Honestly, you have a link to a site called "vivapalestina" in your signature...biased much? :rolleyes:

I donate regularly to Viva Palestina and i recommend anyone wants to see an end to the Apartheid should do the same.
The Zionist entity is a cancer on the planet and the sooner the world sees an end to the racist and fascist ideology known as zionism the sooner world peace can become a reality.

logos880

20-05-2010, 04:17 AM

I donate regularly to Viva Palestina and i recommend anyone wants to see an end to the Apartheid should do the same.
The Zionist entity is a cancer on the planet and the sooner the world sees an end to the racist and fascist ideology known as zionism the sooner world peace can become a reality.

I don't disagree with here, but war and violence will solve nothing.

flickflack

20-05-2010, 05:08 PM

Hazbollah has over 300 M-600s that can hit Tel Avi

Another announcement of this thread announced with a thumbs up... I can't even believe it. :(

spolier

20-05-2010, 05:29 PM

you gotta love these janes defence conspiracy theories.

logos880

20-05-2010, 05:30 PM

Another announcement of this thread announced with a thumbs up... I can't even believe it. :(

I don't understand it either :(

stelios

21-05-2010, 06:41 AM

Another announcement of this thread announced with a thumbs up... I can't even believe it. :(

Believe it. The whole world hates the Apartheid State of Israel.

transcendental stallion

21-05-2010, 04:24 PM

Hezbollah on alert ahead of Israel drills
Fri, 21 May 2010 14:03:10 GMT

Hezbollah resistance movement deploys thousands of its fighters in southern Lebanon as Israeli forces gear up for military exercises.

"In the event of any new attack on Lebanon, the Israelis will not find anywhere in Palestine to hide," Hezbollah official Nabil Qaouk was quoted as saying regarding the Friday deployment, AFP reported.

The weeklong Turning Point 4 military drills are to be conducted in 68 Israeli cities and towns from Sunday Ha'aretz reported.

Israel has waged wars on Lebanon in 2000 and 2006 and on both occasions has been met with fierce resistance from Hezbollah.

About 1,200 Lebanese, most of them civilians, were killed in the 2006 war, in which Israel faced a humiliating defeat and was forced to withdraw from Lebanon after 33 days without achieving any of its objectives. http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=127231&sectionid=351020203

jeisworth

21-05-2010, 06:47 PM

flickflack

22-05-2010, 03:27 PM

and where did they live before 1949 dingus?

There where Israelis settlers in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago...

logos880

22-05-2010, 07:12 PM

Believe it. The whole world hates the Apartheid State of Israel.

While you are wishing "death to Israel" keep in mind that the elite love war and human sacrifice. If war breaks out in the Middle East I'm sure the elite will be having a ritualistic orgy to celebrate.

peace3000

22-05-2010, 07:53 PM

Another announcement of this thread announced with a thumbs up... I can't even believe it. :(

You find people defending themselves from possible annihilation by the Nazi State of Israel, as somewhat 'shocking' ?

:cool:

rydeon

22-05-2010, 07:59 PM

There where Israelis settlers in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago...

Israelite settlers quite so.
Israeli jews are mostly of Khazar bloodline who converted in the dark ages.
Don't take my word for it read the book - The Thirteenth Tribe which was written by a jew in the 1970s...

logos880

22-05-2010, 10:21 PM

You find people defending themselves from possible annihilation by the Nazi State of Israel, as somewhat 'shocking' ?

:cool:

I'm sure the pakistani's have done nothing inhumane in the course of this conflict. :rolleyes::rolleyes: I am by no means defending israel here. What I am saying is that human conflict sucks and the people who suffer are the civilians while the elite get richer and more powerful. This is true across the board. Think about the weapon suppliers for instance, the more guns and bullets used the better for them.

If the elite are running things using the monetary system, which I believe they are, make no mistake that war leads to profit and power for them. War is bad for everyone but the elite.

eustacekidd

22-05-2010, 10:54 PM

I'm sure the pakistani's have done nothing inhumane in the course of this conflict.

Israel is at war with Pakistan? When did that start?

bones

22-05-2010, 11:17 PM

flickflack is a shill.

hes hell bent on reducing population by forcefull abortion...

also hes a twat! suck it bongo.

the apprentice

22-05-2010, 11:45 PM

If this ever comes to pass it will be in order of creating much confusion, the remains of the destroying factor will have a return to sender message attached for sure, even their own kind will not be immune to any future happenings.

logos880

22-05-2010, 11:59 PM

Israel is at war with Pakistan? When did that start?

I'm sure that hazbollah has done nothing inhumane in the course of this conflict. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Fixed :D

flickflack

23-05-2010, 10:06 AM

flickflack is a shill.

hes hell bent on reducing population by forcefull abortion...

also hes a twat! suck it bongo.

I never, ever said forceful abortion, that is simply not true. I suggested a one-child policy, where sterilizations (preferably on males) would become mandatory after the couple's first child is born. Twins would not become aborted either one, instead they will not be privileged to have a child on their own.

And this is not even relevant with this thread, because I'm not a shill and hardly a Zionist (if I'm a Zionist at all, that is, I don's see myself as one...)

transcendental stallion

28-05-2010, 12:10 AM

Nasrallah threatens ships going to Israel in future war

BEIRUT (AFP) – Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said on Tuesday that the Lebanese Islamic resistance movement would bomb military, civilian and commercial ships heading to Israel in the event of a new war with Israel.

“If you (Israel) launch a new war on Lebanon, if you blockade our coastline, all military, civilian or commercial ships heading through the Mediterranean to occupied Palestine will be targeted by the Islamic resistance,” said Nasrallah in a speech transmitted via video link to thousands of supporters massed in Hezbollah's stronghold in Beirut's southern suburbs.

“Whether along the northern or southern Israeli shore, we can target ships, bomb them and hit them God willing,” he added, speaking on the occasion of the 10th anniversary of the withdrawal of Israeli troops from southern Lebanon after a 22-year occupation.
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=220203
“When the world sees how these ships are destroyed, no one will dare go there (Israel),” he added. “You will forgive me if one ship manages to slip through.”

Nasrallah also threatened of bombing Israeli airports and other strategic targets if a new war erupts.

His speech came against a backdrop of tension in the region following allegations that the Islamic resistance movement, which fought a war with Israel in 2006, was stockpiling sophisticated new weapons in anticipation of a new conflict.

Nasrallah said in his hour-long speech that he would not comment on his party's military capacity so as to reserve a “surprise” for Israel in the event of a new conflict.

“The enemy is scared and we will keep him scared,” he said, referring to Israel. “But you (the Lebanese) should feel assured because the equation has changed.

“In the next war, we will resist, come out victorious and change the face of the region God willing,” he added to applause.

Nasrallah accused Israeli leaders of spreading allegations that Syria was transferring Scud missiles to Hezbollah in order to garner further U.S. financial assistance.

“The whole brouhaha over the Scuds was so that Israel could get 200 or 250 million dollars in aid from the U.S. Congress,” he claimed.

“Despite its economic crisis, the U.S. finds money to assist Israel.”

He said his party was not seeking a new conflict and would neither confirm nor deny Israel's allegations concerning the Scuds.

“If you are strong, the world respects you and talks to you and takes you into account,” he said. “And as such we can impose our conditions.

“If you are weak, you will be eaten.” http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=220203

flickflack

28-05-2010, 05:30 PM

edelweiss pirate

28-05-2010, 06:22 PM

This is nothing positive! The Jews have been on the run for 2,000 years, so let them have peace. We can and will never forget, the unjustly persecution of the Jews. The hatred of the Jews, in which Judas Iscariot was part responsible for.
The systematic mass-murdering of Jews during the holocaust can never be accepted or tolerated as something civil, as it is the most monstrous crime against humanity we must never forget.

The Jews have been suffering for two thousand years and so they have decided to make the whole world suffer.

Their freemasonry is the product of a people who have become the slaves of a mentally ill God who punishes his own creation because they do not live up to his expectations! WTF? Er Hello Jahweh, you made humanity so surely if they're fucked up maybe the blame is yours?

But the Jews don't really get it. They still tremble at the unknowable name of God....

It's just a weird primitive religion and we're all fucked because of it.

Their God is no God but only a capricious ET who used his advanced technpology to intimidate his people and make them servile.

He also told them there are many things which they are specifically not supposed to do.

But the Jews have made a pretty high living out of usury haven't they?

I think it's time we all stopped believeing in this farce of Judaism. Because Jews themselves clearly don't.

They use their Judaiic identity as a stick to beat other people with, not, for all I can see, as a spiritual tool to get closer to God. I see very little of 'God' in their shenanigans.

freedom1st

28-05-2010, 08:00 PM

The Jews have been suffering for two thousand years and so they have decided to make the whole world suffer.

Their freemasonry is the product of a people who have become the slaves of a mentally ill God who punishes his own creation because they do not live up to his expectations! WTF? Er Hello Jahweh, you made humanity so surely if they're fucked up maybe the blame is yours?

But the Jews don't really get it. They still tremble at the unknowable name of God....

It's just a weird primitive religion and we're all fucked because of it.

Their God is no God but only a capricious ET who used his advanced technpology to intimidate his people and make them servile.

He also told them there are many things which they are specifically not supposed to do.

But the Jews have made a pretty high living out of usury haven't they?

I think it's time we all stopped believeing in this farce of Judaism. Because Jews themselves clearly don't.

They use their Judaiic identity as a stick to beat other people with, not, for all I can see, as a spiritual tool to get closer to God. I see very little of 'God' in their shenanigans.

+1

lightgiver

28-05-2010, 08:03 PM

http://www.unitedjerusalem.org/index2.asp?id=1326355

The distance from Beirut to Tel Aviv is 130 miles.
M-600s have a range of 155.3 miles
M-600s carry a 500 Kilograms = 1102.31131 pound warhead

HazBollah is becoming an even more uncontendable foe against israel.:)

I wonder if they have any of the below

Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT)

Nuclear Weapons

Israel has not confirmed that it has nuclear weapons and officially maintains that it will not be the first country to introduce nuclear weapons into the Middle East. Yet the existence of Israeli nuclear weapons is a "public secret" by now due to the declassification of large numbers of formerly highly classified US government documents which show that the United States by 1975 was convinced that Israel had nuclear weapons.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

Biological weapons

Israel is believed to have developed an offensive biological warfare capability. Israel is not a signatory to the Biological Weapons Convention (BWC). It is assumed that the Israel Institute for Biological Research in Ness Ziona develops vaccines and antidotes for chemical and biological warfare. While Israel is not known to be producing biological weapon

Chemical weapons

Israel has signed but not ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC). There are speculations that a chemical weapons program might be located at the Israel Institute for Biological Research (IIBR) in Ness Ziona

all in the name of Nazi Molech

freedom1st

28-05-2010, 08:05 PM

I wonder if they have any of the below

Nuclear Weapons

Israel has not confirmed that it has nuclear weapons and officially maintains that it will not be the first country to introduce nuclear weapons into the Middle East. Yet the existence of Israeli nuclear weapons is a "public secret" by now due to the declassification of large numbers of formerly highly classified US government documents which show that the United States by 1975 was convinced that Israel had nuclear weapons.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

Did you see the thread re: official documentation coming to light proving Israel has nukes? Basically they offered to supply nukes to Apartheid South Africa. So now we know what we always knew.

lightgiver

28-05-2010, 08:08 PM

Did you see the thread re: official documentation coming to light proving Israel has nukes? Basically they offered to supply nukes to Apartheid South Africa. So now we know what we always knew.

Of course

they( knesset mob) are the same folk from WW 2............the Nazis..........and even the Israelis are to dumb to see it

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3313/rothchildjoker.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/rothchildjoker.jpg/)

all courtesy of Rothschilds and CO

kriss_crow

28-05-2010, 08:10 PM

What about all the rockets launched at Israel?

they are here.
understood?!

Dear Lebanese/Palestinian/Arab/Muslim/Christians – Kids,

Die with love.

Yours,
Israeli Kids

http://stevesgallery.com/files/israeli_girls_bombs3.jpg

http://sabbah.biz/mt/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/192642681_c4903905bd_o.jpg

.

freedom1st

28-05-2010, 08:11 PM

Of course

they( knesset mob) are the same folk from WW 2............the Nazis..........and even the Israelis are to dumb to see it

Absolutely! There's some pictures on the internet showing images from Nazi Germany and comparing them with images from Gaza - you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. They are using the same policies they used in Germany.

To me (and you) it is obvious that the Israeli regime is the same as the Nazi regime - I don't really understand why more don't see this.

lightgiver

28-05-2010, 08:12 PM

There where Israelis settlers in Jerusalem 3,000 years ago...

Really ?

was you there ?

Did TV tell you that ?

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8118/mtvyoginioj1.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/mtvyoginioj1.jpg/)

Uttar Pradesh has an important place in the culture of India; it is considered to be the birthplace of Hinduism, has been the ancient seat of Hindu religion, learning and culture, and has many important sites of Hindu pilgrimage. The State also has several sites important to Buddhism: the Chaukhandi Stupa marks the spot where Buddha met his first disciples, while the Dhamek Stupa in Sarnath commemorates Buddha's first sermon. Also the town of Kushinagar is where Gautama Buddha died.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9292/upgovtlogo.jpg (http://img198.imageshack.us/i/upgovtlogo.jpg/)

The known history of Uttar Pradesh goes back 4000 years, when the Aryans first made it their home in 2000 BC; this heralded the Vedic age of the Indian civilization. The Aryans, infiltrating from their home-base in the present day Punjab region, had settled in the Doab region and the Ghagra plains, and called it with various names: Madhya Desha (Midland), Aryavarta (the Aryan land) and Bharatvarsha (the kingdom of Bharat, an important Aryan king). Early Indo-Aryan presence probably corresponds, in part, to the presence of Ochre Coloured Pottery in archaeological findings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttar_Pradesh

Lucknow has Asia's first human DNA bank. This is world's second bank having DNA identification system (DIS) and has been established in the Biotech park under the public private partnership with IQRA Biotech Services.:eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucknow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lucknow

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5804/megiddochurchwp04large.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/megiddochurchwp04large.jpg/)

Ancient church discovered under prison

In 2005, Israeli archaeologist Yotam Tepper of Tel-Aviv University discovered the remains of a church, believed to be from the third century, a time when Christians were still persecuted by the Roman Empire. The remains were found at the Megiddo Prison, which is location a few hundred meters south of the Tel. Among the finds is an approx. 54 square meter large mosaic with a Greek inscription stating that the church is consecrated to "the God Jesus Christ." The mosaic is very well preserved and features geometrical figures and images of fish, an early Christian symbol. It is speculated that this may be the oldest remains of a church in the Holy Land. The remains were found within the grounds of a military prison, and Israeli authorities are currently speculating about moving the prison.

An inscription in the Megiddo church mentions a Roman officer, "Gaianus," who donated "his own money" to have a mosaic made. The anthropologist Joe Zias, former curator for the Israeli Antiquities Authority, said "My gut feeling is that we are looking at a Roman building that may have been converted to a church at a later date.". On the other hand, persecution of Christians was sporadic in the Roman Empire during the early third century. The archaeological evidence is pointing to a later date placing the church in the last quarter of the 3rd or first quarter of the 4th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Megiddo

Natufian

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1041/biggestsecretbook15.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/biggestsecretbook15.jpg/)

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3915/310pxnatufianspreadsvg.png (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/310pxnatufianspreadsvg.png/)

Natufian culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7228/616pxnabateensroutes.png (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/616pxnabateensroutes.png/)

Arabian Peninsula - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

hadabusa

28-05-2010, 08:18 PM

I never, ever said forceful abortion, that is simply not true. I suggested a one-child policy, where sterilizations (preferably on males) would become mandatory after the couple's first child is born. Twins would not become aborted either one, instead they will not be privileged to have a child on their own.

And this is not even relevant with this thread, because I'm not a shill and hardly a Zionist (if I'm a Zionist at all, that is, I don's see myself as one...)

yeah, lets cuts flikflak some slack,he didnt say abortions, he "just" said sterilizations.

:rolleyes:

flickflack

28-05-2010, 08:29 PM

Really ?

was you there ?

Did TV tell you that ?

My Christian studies told me that, perhaps. :)

Edited add-on:

Double Tetrahedron

I'm not sure how you can make the star of David a double tetrahedron...

lightgiver

28-05-2010, 09:08 PM

My Christian studies told me that, perhaps. :)

Edited add-on:

I'm not sure how you can make the star of David a double tetrahedron...

Which Christian studies are them?:)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8118/mtvyoginioj1.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/mtvyoginioj1.jpg/)

flickflack

28-05-2010, 09:40 PM

Which Christian studies are them?:)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8118/mtvyoginioj1.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/mtvyoginioj1.jpg/)

For some reason, I can't PM you. :(

I'm currently studying the Revelation of John, and I'm using a book from Ellen Gould White... It clearly states Israelities, or when I translate it to English anyway.

The studies are voluntarily, I only take the courses I want, and I'm not depended on being at any university.

My official Sabbath-day is Sunday, however Saturday is the real Sabbath-day, even for some Christians. ;)

So I'm a Christian, not a Jew. I'm not really part of a sect, but my Christian studies is certainly influenced by what my mother implied was just another sect... That's why I can joke about it and say I have not only one day of rest, but two (as one Sabbath-day is official and the other is the Sabbath we believe to be the right one.) ;)

lightgiver

28-05-2010, 09:52 PM

For some reason, I can't PM you. :(

I'm currently studying the Revelation of John, and I'm using a book from Ellen Gould White... It clearly states Israelities, or when I translate it to English anyway.

The studies are voluntarily, I only take the courses I want, and I'm not depended on being at any university.

My official Sabbath-day is Sunday, however Saturday is the real Sabbath-day, even for some Christians. ;)

So I'm a Christian, not a Jew. I'm not really part of a sect, but my Christian studies is certainly influenced by what my mother implied was just another sect... That's why I can joke about it and say I have not only one day of rest, but two (as one Sabbath-day is official and the other is the Sabbath we believe to be the right one.) ;)

I see,

thorough investigation is needed

the link below may interest you :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110887

flickflack

29-05-2010, 10:23 AM

I see,

thorough investigation is needed

the link below may interest you :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=110887

I will see you there, I guess. :)

No more Sundays superior to Saturdays, they are at least equal. ;)

spolier

29-05-2010, 10:46 AM

For some reason, I can't PM you. :(

I'm currently studying the Revelation of John, and I'm using a book from Ellen Gould White... It clearly states Israelities, or when I translate it to English anyway.

The studies are voluntarily, I only take the courses I want, and I'm not depended on being at any university.

My official Sabbath-day is Sunday, however Saturday is the real Sabbath-day, even for some Christians. ;)

So I'm a Christian, not a Jew. I'm not really part of a sect, but my Christian studies is certainly influenced by what my mother implied was just another sect... That's why I can joke about it and say I have not only one day of rest, but two (as one Sabbath-day is official and the other is the Sabbath we believe to be the right one.) ;)

when i was a child, it was compulsary to attend the brainwashing/indoctrination camp, and one lesson was called religious 'education'. i always remember in the doctrine/mantra, it was preached and said jesus, king of the jews. christianity is a judaism bastardisation isnt it?

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 07:07 PM

as it is the most monstrous crime against humanity we must never forget.

top 3 crimes against humanity.

number 1 has to be the genocide and land/resource theft of the native americans by the spanish,english,dutch,and french empires

number2 has to be the atlantic slave trade carried out by the english,spanish and french

then nunber 3 would be the genocide/inquisition oof the jews

freedom1st

29-05-2010, 07:13 PM

top 3 crimes against humanity.

number 1 has to be the genocide and land/resource theft of the native americans by the spanish,english,dutch,and french empires

number2 has to be the atlantic slave trade carried out by the english,spanish and french

then nunber 3 would be the genocide/inquisition oof the jews

You're havin' a laugh!

They were one of the smallest 'groups' that suffered, and then mainly through disease and starvation (like many of the others).

And then look at other atrocities like Rhwanda and a whole bloody long list of atrocities that makes what the jews suffered pale in comparison.

I'm not saying that it was right for the jews to suffer, but I'm sick of their plight being headlined all the bloody time! And boy is it profitable - both monetarily and politically.

eustacekidd

29-05-2010, 07:43 PM

freedom1st

29-05-2010, 07:50 PM

Where do the palestinians rank? Before or behind the jews?

I guess it would depend how you were looking at it. For example, if we go with the official story the one can only wonder at what the hell the Israelis think they are up to. I mean, with all the suffering they underwent they shouuld know better surely? That kind of gives it a different slant - a sort of wtf?!!

If we're purely talking numbers then your guess is as good as mine.

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 08:27 PM

You're havin' a laugh!

They were one of the smallest 'groups' that suffered, and then mainly through disease and starvation (like many of the others).

And then look at other atrocities like Rhwanda and a whole bloody long list of atrocities that makes what the jews suffered pale in comparison.

I'm not saying that it was right for the jews to suffer, but I'm sick of their plight being headlined all the bloody time! And boy is it profitable - both monetarily and politically.

of course i forgot the african genocides :(

i recently went to the National Holocaust Museum in washington d.c , and they had an entire wing of the museum dedicated to rwanda and various other african genocides, even though it was a jewish holocaust museum. the main speaker @ a conference we attended at the jewish holocaust museum also happened to be an african american..

freedom1st

29-05-2010, 08:31 PM

of course i forgot the african genocides :(

i recently went to the National Holocaust Museum in washington d.c , and they had an entire wing of the museum dedicated to rwanda and various other african genocides, even though it was a jewish holocaust museum. the main speaker @ a conference we attended at the jewish holocaust museum also happened to be an african american..

Are you sure it's a jewish holocaust museum?..coz you also said the National Holocast Museum.
Maybe the zionist propoganda is working....

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 08:53 PM

Are you sure it's a jewish holocaust museum?..coz you also said the National Holocast Museum.
Maybe the zionist propoganda is working....

yes it is dedicated to the jewish holocaust,tard

logos880

29-05-2010, 09:00 PM

freedom1st

29-05-2010, 09:01 PM

yes it is dedicated to the jewish holocaust,tard

Of course...why would it be any other way? Despite theirs being one of the smallest and the only one that cannot be analysed - by law!

eustacekidd

29-05-2010, 10:10 PM

I guess it would depend how you were looking at it. For example, if we go with the official story the one can only wonder at what the hell the Israelis think they are up to. I mean, with all the suffering they underwent they shouuld know better surely? That kind of gives it a different slant - a sort of wtf?!!

If we're purely talking numbers then your guess is as good as mine.

I think their motto "never again", explains it, they've been kicked around the place for centuries, like us Irish. Unlike the Irish though, they got everything that they lost back (land, culture, identity, pride) and now they'll fight tooth and nail to keep it. The palestinians embraced a bunch of power hungry criminals like the nationalists in the north of Ireland did, and now they have to pay the same price unfortunately.

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 11:10 PM

Are we really in a position to put a value on human life? How much is one life worth? An infinite amount? This is a dangerous road that has been well traveled.

in terms of lasting impact on the rest of the world,
native american genocide was number 1.most of europes riches came from the discovery and rape and pillage of the united states.had it not been for this episode of human history,trans atlantic slavery would not have happened,and the european empires such as spanish english and french would not have existed. etcetc LMFAO it is the single most defining event of human history,it is the precursor for everything that happened after 1492.

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 11:14 PM

Of course...why would it be any other way? Despite theirs being one of the smallest and the only one that cannot be analysed - by law!

what law? where?germany? america would probably enact the same laws in america if people started going around proclaiming that the native american genocide never happened and deserved an official investigation.actually they do,and you find lots on the internet

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 11:15 PM

lightgiver

29-05-2010, 11:18 PM

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/589/noahsworldmap.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/noahsworldmap.png/)

Nope cant see IS RA EL or Tel aviv on there can you?

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8025/shemhamandjapheth.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/shemhamandjapheth.jpg/)

Under the British Mandate

Under British administration, the political friction between Jews and Arabs in Palestine increased.

Tel Aviv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what a surprise the English yet again

I wonder if danish prince greek phil the Nazi has put a virus in 1 of those warheads

logos880

29-05-2010, 11:33 PM

in terms of lasting impact on the rest of the world,
native american genocide was number 1.most of europes riches came from the discovery and rape and pillage of the united states.had it not been for this episode of human history,trans atlantic slavery would not have happened,and the european empires such as spanish english and french would not have existed. etcetc LMFAO it is the single most defining event of human history,it is the precursor for everything that happened after 1492.

Your post has a bitter tone to it. The single most defining moment of human history?!1 You should've typed in that in all caps for emphasis...might have had more impact that way. Nope, I disagree.

and this is the same reason u find plenty of people hating natives,or european-native mixes,because we are a direct product of that whole episode of history.

So you have polled these racist bigots and the overwhelming majority have said this? You know this how?

people want to forget that it happened. most of these same people want you to think that the earth is only 6000 years old too

LMFAO all one and the same,they sound like a bunch of artificially "intelligent" argument bots

If there is an agenda to forget about European/Spanish invasion of the New World, then why does the public education system in the U.S. include this period in history in the public school curriculum?

Who are the people that want you to think the earth is 6000 years old?

ojos de tiempo

29-05-2010, 11:43 PM

If there is an agenda to forget about European/Spanish invasion of the New World, then why does the public education system in the U.S. include this period in history in the public school curriculum?

Who are the people that want you to think the earth is 6000 years old?

the true agenda is to get rid of it, that is why many people want to get rid of public education,such as ron paul,or change it drastically to fit into the protestant message like texas is doing.

logos880

30-05-2010, 12:51 AM

the true agenda is to get rid of it, that is why many people want to get rid of public education,such as ron paul,or change it drastically to fit into the protestant message like texas is doing.

Would you not agree that a minority of people who are not the controlling elite would want to forget about this part of history or else this part of history would not be part of U.S. public school curriculum? Also, think about the amount of pop culture exposure we have towards the plight of the native americans: Dances With Wolves, Last of the Mohicans, Pocahontas, and Avatar (the highest grossing movie in history) to name a few. I really don't understand how you can believe "the true agenda" is to "get rid of it."

In fact, I would suggest, based on the evidence I have given you that there is an agenda to emphasize this part of history. Why else would this be in the U.S. public school curriculum? To help forget? Hardly, all of the evidence seems to suggest the contrary.

sloughi

27-08-2010, 06:11 PM

'Israel ready to destroy Lebanese Army in four hours'
By JPOST.COM STAFF
08/27/2010 14:19

The US warned Lebanon that if it did not prevent any recurrence of the border-fire incident that occurred earlier this month, the IDF would destroy the Lebanese Armed Forces within four hours, Israel Radio cited a report by Lebanese newspaper A-Liwaa on Friday.

According to the report, Frederick Hoff, assistant to US Middle East Peace Envoy George Mitchell, told Lebanese Army chief of staff Jean Kahwaji that Israel was ready to implement a plan to destroy within four hours all Lebanese military infrastructure, including army bases and offices, should a similar confrontation occur in the future.

IDF Lt.-Col. (res.) Dov Harari, 45, was killed and Capt. (res.) Ezra Lakia was seriously wounded, as well three LAF soldiers and one Lebanese journalist killed, when both sides exchanged fire after IDF soldiers attempted to cut down a tree on the Israeli side of the border.

The IDF had informed the UNIFIL peacekeeping force along the border ahead of time of the intended tree-clearing operation.

UNIFIL later confirmed that the IDF troops were on the Israeli side of the border when the incident occurred, contradicting LAF claims that Lebanese sniper fire directed at the Israeli troops had been justified by an incursion upon Lebanese territory. http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=186197

flickflack

27-08-2010, 06:21 PM

Israel in pain over Lebanese slaying IDF soldier

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=186197

What concerns me is that the IDF didn't even cross the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Line_%28Lebanon%29, yet this soldier got killed in cold blood.

transcendental stallion

19-09-2010, 07:57 PM

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=188533
Report: Hizbullah successfully tests new missile in Iran
By JPOST.COM STAFF
09/19/2010 13:29

Special Hizbullah units in Iran have successfully launched and tested a new Iranian missile "Fatah 110," according to a report over the weekend by Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai, Channel 2 news reported.

According to the report, the Iranian missile, which was displayed with great pride in Teheran less than a month ago, has a maximum range of 200 kilometers. This means it is capable of reaching Jerusalem and Ashdod if it was to be launched from the Israel-Lebanon border. The Kuwait newspaper said the test launches took place in Iran since such an event could not take place in Lebanon.

"The test was successful and part of the units which participated returned to their bases in Lebanon," unidentified officials told Al-Rai. Hizbullah has formulated a "bank of targets" in Israel such as "power stations and sensitive institutions" across the country, the sources added.

According to figures publicized in August in an Iranian broadcast in English, the missile is 9 meters in length and weighs 3,500 kilograms. It is powered by solid fuel propellant and is the third version of the missile, which has existed for several years within the Iranian military.

Last week, senior Hizbullah officials broadened their "bank of targets" to include top Israeli security officials. The pictures of prominent officials were placed on playing cards, in terms of rank, similar to how the US prioritized its targets at the beginning of the Iraq war. Head of the Mossad Meir Dagan was placed on an "ace" card since Hizbullah views Dagan primarily responsible for the assassination of terrorist Imad Mugniyeh. On Sunday, the terror group announced that after Dagan leaves his post, he will be in the organization's target sights, Channel 10 news reported.

Number two in the Hizbullah "assassination list" is Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi, who was also in an active post during the Mugniyeh assassination. In third place is head of military intelligence (AMAN) Maj.-Gen. Amos Yadlin and fourth, former prime minister during the assassination of Mugniyeh, Ehud Olmert. Former chief of staff, Maj.-Gen (res.) Dan Halutz was ranked fifth.

dan duchaine

19-09-2010, 08:18 PM

Looks to me like the school bully has the entire playground ganging up on him.

logos880

20-09-2010, 03:37 PM

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=188533

Yay, for new and improved ways to murder people! :rolleyes: Your stance on this issue is the problem not the solution.

sloughi

21-10-2011, 08:58 PM

Hezbollah chief Nasrallah: Next war with Israel will start in Tel Aviv
Hassan Nasrallah says Hezbollah has 'many surprises' that will change the face of the region in a future war.

The next war with Israel will start in Tel Aviv, not on the northern border, Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah warned on Friday, the Lebanese Al-Akhbar newspaper reported.

“If Israel decided to wage a war against Lebanon, we will not only break the Israeli soldiers’ bones, we will smash them,” Nasrallah was quoted as saying during a meeting with Hezbollah members.

"The war would be waged without any red lines, and [Hezbollah] would in return commit to the new equations,” Nasrallah said.

"“[Hezbollah] has many surprises that will change the face of the region,” he added.

Nasrallah also discussed recent reports that foreign spies had inflitrated Hezbollah. He said that Hezbollah would be able investigate itself and overcome the spying efforts.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hezbollah-chief-nasrallah-next-war-with-israel-will-start-in-tel-aviv-1.391248

andyh

21-10-2011, 09:19 PM

Hezbollah must have some pretty strong guys who can hurl 1105lb rocks now.
:D

logos880

21-10-2011, 09:21 PM

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/hezbollah-chief-nasrallah-next-war-with-israel-will-start-in-tel-aviv-1.391248

More war is good news? :confused:

sloughi

21-10-2011, 09:32 PM

More war is good news? :confused:
The war that holds israel's destruction is of course.;)

logos880

21-10-2011, 09:33 PM

The war that holds israel's destruction is of course.;)

Tell that to the innocent men, women, and children who make their homes there.

cuttydrinker

21-10-2011, 10:50 PM

Tell that to the innocent men, women, and children who make their homes there.

There are no innocent Israelis

mcpride

21-10-2011, 11:44 PM

The state of Israel has never used any nukes in any of their attacks. And we must not forget that in the 1990's, Lebanon fired Katusha-rockets against Israel. And Israel had no way of immediate protection against these kinds of attacks.
Israel is nothing but the victim in this conflict, at least if you think about it as long as I have.

P.S. War against Israel is part of the culture in Lebanon, as it has been revealed by independent news sources.

lol ww2 weaponry against one of the most advanced armed forces in the world... what a security threat :rolleyes:

logos880

21-10-2011, 11:47 PM

There are no innocent Israelis

Are you a sociopath?

rhydra

22-10-2011, 01:00 AM

Hoorah more innocent people will die! Hoorah, Hezbollah can kill those Zionists!

Wait, if they do then that means that they are responsible for killing civilians, it won't look good...

Hmm, gotta think about this for a few moments...:confused:

...

Got it!:cool:

Hoorah, Zionists make it look like innocent Hezbollah are killing civilians!

That's better!:D