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kasalt
22-09-2007, 12:21 PM
Is anyone familiar with this website:
http://www.lovewithoutend.com/
It was set up by a woman named Glenda Green. Her bio states that she is the "author of the best-selling Love Without End, Jesus Speaks, and artist of the internationally acclaimed painting, "The Lamb and The Lion." She is acknowledged by the nation's leading scholars, critics, and museum officials as one of the world's foremost portrait painters and spiritual artists. With paintings in such important collections as the Smithsonian Institution, the Museum of the City of New York, and Williams College Museum of Art, Glenda Green has for many years been considered one of America's finest realist oil painters."
In her book, Love Without End, Jesus Speaks, she claims to have had face-to-face conversations with "Jeshua" (i.e., Jesus), which I realize is immediately problematic for those of us who suspect that this individual may never have actually lived in the first place. However, I have read this book (Amazon.com: Love Without End: Jesus Speaks (9780966662399): Glenda E. Green: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HHWM8YFPL.@@AMEPARAM@@41HHWM8YFPL), and I did find it to be quite insightful IMO.
She also sells a collection of blended essential oils. I have tried several, and I must say that the one called "Forgiveness" is quite possibly the most wonderful aroma I have ever smelled. It is certainly the most wonderful aroma I have ever smelled from a bottle! Here's a link to it if anyone is interested in trying it:
http://lovewithoutend.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_64&products_id=39
Here is the .jpg of her portrait entitled "The Lamb and the Lion":
http://lovewithoutend.com/custom/images/lamblion.jpg
Here is a link to her article explaining the meaning of this portrait, called "The Story Behind the Miracle Painting":
http://lovewithoutend.com/custom/index.php?body=portrait&osCsid=e08e2da1db932d86bc4958c93c7f0236
:)
jinjo5
22-09-2007, 04:53 PM
.....just a comment on what 'love' might be.
Is this mother natures way of decieving us into sexual intercourse?
We are basically animals,no matter what.
You have to remember the one and only instinct is survival,its cold and hard.
but thats how it is,we are governed by our physical urges.
Which makes you think if that is there anything actually called love?
or is it mother nature's way of decieving us into pro-creation.
This is just a thought on my journey on why are we here in the first place.
snoopsnuffleopagus
23-09-2007, 02:54 AM
Cordial Felicitations!, Kasalt, Jinjo5:
A Mullet?!?! :eek: Blasphemer!!! Spawn of Satan!!! :mad:
Sheeesh, Thats low.
Love: Carnal & Altruistic, Carnal=Lust, instant gratification, disregard of consequences and ramifications=Fun!
Altruistic=A Ga Pe>Agape; Greek word for Brotherly, Sisterly Love and Concern. Universal Love. Philadelphia.
Carnal=Hunter, expends the energy of another Being for ones own self centered gratification
Altruistic=Shepard, expends own energy to provide care and sustenence for Beings one is responsible for.
The choice is always ours.
:)
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
kasalt
23-09-2007, 03:24 AM
jinjo5, snoopsnuffleopagus, thanks for posting. Your replies seem to me to be off-topic, perhaps you misunderstand the subject matter, but, something is better than nothing...i think...(?)
Cheers to you both anyhow! ;)
snoopsnuffleopagus
23-09-2007, 05:54 PM
Cordial Felicitations!, Kasalt:
It took hours to recover from the Visage of a 'Mullet Jesus'.
Kasalt, did you purchase the Oils?
Kasalt: There is no question as to Doctrines of Father Yahweh & Yahshua, if one would read a 'decent' translation of the Book of Yahweh( the Bible). Than no-one would be decieved.
Even for those who 'hate' the Book of Yahweh( the Bible), they would be well served, by knowing what the Book ACTUALLY says. Quite often the Anti-Father Yahweh Brigade are erroneous themselves, in their Critiques.
Resulting in the unintended consequence of: 'Humour'.
Kasalt: You can: 'Bet the Crib(your house)' she was not 'Channeling Yahshua Messiah.
She would have known His correct name.
The Book of Yahweh has 'Quality Control' Verses. These Verses provide Benchmark, Baseline Standards, for the Qualities of the Doctrine being discussed. Compare what is being putforth, with the Known Absolutes of the Quality Control Verses in the Book of Yahweh and you can safely disregard 99% of the Suppositions as offered, like this example. It does not: Pass the Test.
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
lydia78
23-09-2007, 10:50 PM
Cordial Felicitations!, Kasalt:
It took hours to recover from the Visage of a 'Mullet Jesus'.
378
PMSL! snoop!!
You star!
or Billy Ray Cyrus!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3EebObs-vC0
kasalt
24-09-2007, 01:07 AM
Cordial Felicitations!, Kasalt:
It took hours to recover from the Visage of a 'Mullet Jesus'.
Ok...so how would you have styled "Yahshua's" hair? I have to admit, I didn't understand the meaning of your first reply at all. It didn't occur to me that posting just one of a great multitude of vastly different portrayals of "Yahshua" that have appeared throughout the ages would lead to poking fun about his hair style.
Kasalt, did you purchase the Oils?
Yes, I have purchased them--several of them anyway. As I said, the "Forgiveness" scent is the most wonderful aroma I've ever experienced from a bottle. The others were also very nice, but less so, in my opinion.
Kasalt: There is no question as to Doctrines of Father Yahweh & Yahshua, if one would read a 'decent' translation of the Book of Yahweh( the Bible). Than no-one would be decieved.
Even for those who 'hate' the Book of Yahweh( the Bible), they would be well served, by knowing what the Book ACTUALLY says. Quite often the Anti-Father Yahweh Brigade are erroneous themselves, in their Critiques.
Resulting in the unintended consequence of: 'Humour'.
Kasalt: You can: 'Bet the Crib(your house)' she was not 'Channeling Yahshua Messiah.
She would have known His correct name.
I see no point in debating with you over the actual name of a man who may or may not have historically existed, however, this is from the website ReligiousTolerance.org:
As a newborn, Jesus was probably given the Hebrew name Yehoshua, which means "God Salvation," or "Yahweh delivers." Yehoshua is normally translated Joshua in English. "...in post-exilic times of the Biblical era, the names Yeshua and Yehoshua were regarded as equivalent." Theologians generally believe that Jesus would have been referred to by the shorter name Yeshua ("Salvation"), at least in Jerusalem and the rest of Judea. In the "rough regional dialect of Galilee." his friends, family and disciples would have probably called him Yeshu. "Yeshua" was translated by the early Pauline Christians as Iesous in Greek, probably in order to make his name more acceptable to Greek Pagans of the time. This became Iesus in Latin, and Jesus in German. The English name Jesus came from the German spelling and pronunciation. We will generally use Jesus throughout this web site because this is the name with which most people are most familiar and comfortable. We do acknowledge that some consider it disrespectful to call a person by a foreign translation of his name. It is worth remembering that his family, friends, disciples and followers never called him Jesus. We do occasionally use one of his actual names: Yeshua in our essays.http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_je.htm
The Book of Yahweh has 'Quality Control' Verses. These Verses provide Benchmark, Baseline Standards, for the Qualities of the Doctrine being discussed. Compare what is being putforth, with the Known Absolutes of the Quality Control Verses in the Book of Yahweh and you can safely disregard 99% of the Suppositions as offered, like this example. It does not: Pass the Test.
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
Very well, thank you for your opinion. That is what I was looking for.
Personally, I don't believe that this woman actually saw Jesus (Jeshua, Yahshua, whatever you want to call him). I think she just did a "Neale Donnald Walsh" on us and wrote down what she believed Jesus would have said to her if he had actually spoken with her.
snoopsnuffleopagus
24-09-2007, 03:00 AM
Cordial Felicitations!, Kasalt:
The 'Cut & Paste', Fontsize: Gigundo, Verbiage; presented as 'Argument' for your 'Stated' Position: 'The Exact Name and Actuality of Historocity of the Messiah is not so important and not inclined to Debate', lacks Scholarship. Rather than accurate instruction in Linguistics and Etymology, the Author makes several large errors.
First & Foremost: Author does not Discern between Yahweh and god. They are not the same. Vast Differences.
Author States: Yeshua means: Salvation. Incorrect. Translates: HE is Salvation.
Yahshua: Yahweh is Salvation It's a Grammatical thing, the Reader now has more accurate information, asto 'Who'. Author omitted Possessive Pronoun entirely in translation.
Everybody wants to remove Father Yahwehs Name, Dare 2B Different!
Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus
Addendum: Research her web-site: Word Counts: The Law, The Prophecies, Yahweh.
"If they speak not to the Laws and the Prophets, there is no Light in them".
I have provided Posts in the: Book of Yahweh thread. Benchmarks, and Baseline 'Standards' are presented to aide any discusser of Yahweh or Yahshua, asto their actual positions on numerous Doctrines. There are 'Absolutes'.
kasalt
24-09-2007, 04:05 AM
Sorry about the font size, snoop. I wasn't trying to shout at you. For some reason, the font looked too small on the monitor I was using, that's why I enlarged it. I have corrected it.
It wasn't my intention at all to start a debate about this enigmatic character that most English-speaking people refer to as "Jesus". If I understand David Icke's views, "Yahshua" may well be an Illuminati creation anyhow, so I won't bother to pursue a debate with you any further about the historical, linguistic, or etymological bickering surrounding him. Humanity has had enough such debates about this character for the last 2000 years, don't you think? And where has it gotten us?
Addendum: Research her web-site: Word Counts: The Law, The Prophecies, Yahweh.
"If they speak not to the Laws and the Prophets, there is no Light in them".
I have provided Posts in the: Book of Yahweh thread. Benchmarks, and Baseline 'Standards' are presented to aide any discusser of Yahweh or Yahshua, asto their actual positions on numerous Doctrines. There are 'Absolutes'.
Perhaps there are 'Absolutes', but I have read your "Book of Yahweh" thread, and I even provided a post on that thread regarding the fact that the House of Yahweh has repeatedly made false prophecies about nuclear war and the end of the world. In my opinion, any religious leader or organization who has repeatedly issued false prophecies about such things as the start of nuclear war and 'the end of the world' has a lot of nerve claiming to have cornered the market on "Absolutes":
House of Yahweh: Nuclear War Begins September 12, 2006
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/15749/nuclear-war-begins-september-12-2006
House of Yahweh in Abilene, Texas:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_house.htm
None of that has seemed to phase you, but so far as I'm concerned, anyone who would make such brazenly false prophecies about the end of the world is off the mark from the word go. At least Glenda Green's mullet-sporting "Jeshua" hasn't made that very serious mistake yet.
If you weren't just joking, and it literally took you "hours to recover from the Visage of a 'Mullet Jesus'", then (and I sincerely say this without any intention to offend) may I kindly suggest that you take an equal number of hours to get over yourself?
"Love without end..." Indeed! Oh, what have I done now, started a Christian in-fighting thread??? I should have known that anything having to do with "Jesus" would lead to theological infighting about him. :( How do I get out of it? Oh wait, I know how:
"Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna..." :rolleyes:
mariag
24-09-2007, 09:18 AM
.....just a comment on what 'love' might be.
Is this mother natures way of decieving us into sexual intercourse?
We are basically animals,no matter what.
You have to remember the one and only instinct is survival,its cold and hard.
but thats how it is,we are governed by our physical urges.
Which makes you think if that is there anything actually called love?
or is it mother nature's way of decieving us into pro-creation.
This is just a thought on my journey on why are we here in the first place.
Love and sex are two entirly different things my dear .
jinjo5
24-09-2007, 09:10 PM
Love and sex are two entirly different things my dear ........maybe they arent though.not neccessarily my opinon,just a thought i put forward.
soglad
24-09-2007, 09:16 PM
Sex is a very chemical thing.........BUT.....having said that, sex can be an amazing spiritual experience, especially between two people who live each other VERY much, and it's not just a physical thing.
Plus, there's tantric sex and stuff! yum yum :D
jinjo5
29-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Sex is a very chemical thing.........BUT.....having said that, sex can be an amazing spiritual experience, especially between two people who live each other VERY much, and it's not just a physical thing.
Plus, there's tantric sex and stuff! yum yum :D
Sex has its origin in survival,nothing more,thats why i said is its mother nature's trick to enforce the sexual act.
A song in the 80's by howard jones called 'what is love anyway' makes you think.
today,for instance,ive seen some stunningly beautiful lasses and my heart just melts at the mere sight of the ladies as im going about my everyday business.
you could just say that was lust or MN up to her tricks.........'what is love anyway'?
qophee
01-10-2007, 03:39 AM
Sex has its origin in survival,nothing more,thats why i said is its mother nature's trick to enforce the sexual act.
A song in the 80's by howard jones called 'what is love anyway' makes you think.
today,for instance,ive seen some stunningly beautiful lasses and my heart just melts at the mere sight of the ladies as im going about my everyday business.
you could just say that was lust or MN up to her tricks.........'what is love anyway'?
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Love is the dispensation of justice without the effect of suffering. I'm off engraving this in stone.
jinjo5
07-10-2007, 11:26 AM
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Love is the dispensation of justice without the effect of suffering. I'm off engraving this in stone.
...yeah,i know what you mean.-----------:D
alrick888
07-10-2007, 02:53 PM
I like that painting a lot......
Any ideas what the lion is?
The lion of the House of Judah?
kasalt
08-10-2007, 02:39 AM
I like that painting a lot......
Any ideas what the lion is?
The lion of the House of Judah?
Hi Alrick http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1805/waving2fd6.gif I like that painting also, so much in fact that I made it my desktop background.
I searched on the net for an explanation to the meaning of the painting but came up empty. I remember that Glenda explained the meaning of it in her book, "Love Without End, Jesus Speaks". I read the book around 8 years ago and then gave it away, and I can't recall enough of it to tell you her interpretation of it.
For what it's worth, during my search I did find a page with some quotes from the book. Here are some exerpts:
“Jesus, some people say that hate is the opposite of love, and recently, I read a book which suggested that fear is the opposite of love. What do you say?” A wry grin began to take shape on His face as He focused a quizzical look at me.
“I thought you would have realized by now that love has no opposites! Love is the solvent which ends all polarity.” . . . “Fear abounds in the absence of love, and hatred is fear of love itself. Greed is an obsessive desire, which attempts to nourish and supply the needs of life without love. You might say that greed is an attempt to counterfeit and to subvert the power of love. This is why it is the root of all evil. And it is not limited to material possessions or money. There can be greed for attention, influence, fame, education, therapy, dependency, even misery… anything which can establish bonds of attachment without love.
[p. 70-71]
“Without love, a man has lost all basis for command. The best he can hope for is control, but that reauires leverage . . . lots of it.
“As I have said before, the meek shall inherit the Earth. But what you need to know is that this instruction has also received a poor translation, for in your language ‘meek' implies humility and servitude. This is not what I meant. The word ‘moderate' would more accurately convey my message. Those who live in moderation, will form the basis of the new Earth economy, and thus inherit the Earth.”
“The ideal reason for moderation is to share and to collectively participate in a spirit of abundance. [p. 71]
“There is a simple guideline which will give you unlimited potential for expansion without the perils of greed: Do not take more than you can truly love.” [p. 72]
http://www.unfoldingemancipation.org/CoreContent/Gallery/Writings/ExcerptsJesusSpeaks.htm