View Full Version : Alex Jones Video's..You decide if he's good or bad
lextorite
26-01-2010, 03:43 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://qik.com/catherinebleish
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 03:51 PM
That's truly lame of AJ, I guess he thinks its his town, his movement, his truth!
Notice how he kept slyly looking into the lady's little handy cam then slagged her off, looked very sneaky, odd, as if they were together but not.
tb303
26-01-2010, 04:00 PM
2 movements rallying in support of something that never truly existed.
Alex does seem to have the bigger horn.
conspicioastrum
26-01-2010, 04:08 PM
If Alex Jones was a true warrior for freedom and love, he would have stood up there with those constitutionalists and spoke out with them. He would have joined forces... that's what we're suppose to fucking do. What the hell is he thinking?
largejack
26-01-2010, 04:20 PM
What did he do wrong? Someone accused him (probably a Glenn Beck supporter) of trying to start trouble, but from what I could see, he was just shouting through his bullhorn like he's done for years. I couldn't tell exactly what was going on, but I know there are many, and some on here who are determined to undermine him for some reason.
Let's just get things into perspective before we hit the self destruct button shall we?
Until I see real evidence that he works for the system I will continue to support what an amazing job he's doing, and also for waking up millions of others who are doing good as a result.
largejack
26-01-2010, 04:23 PM
If Alex Jones was a true warrior for freedom and love, he would have stood up there with those constitutionalists and spoke out with them. He would have joined forces... that's what we're suppose to fucking do. What the hell is he thinking?
Do you know the full story?
thenymph
26-01-2010, 04:24 PM
What did he do wrong? Someone accused him (probably a Glenn Beck supporter) of trying to start trouble, but from what I could see, he was just shouting through his bullhorn like he's done for years. I couldn't tell exactly what was going on, but I know there are many, and some on here who are determined to undermine him for some reason.
Let's just get things into perspective before we hit the self destruct button shall we?
Until I see real evidence that he works for the system I will continue to support what an amazing job he's doing, and also for waking up millions of others who are doing good as a result.
+1
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 04:50 PM
I watched these vids before reading any comments, so's I don't get biased either way...
I see a focal area for multiple bullhorning demonstrators. This area was not set aside for 'their' show any more than it was for Jones's
Regardless, those with the grievance, they venture down into Jones' personal space and a lady tugs on his arm, what the hell was Jones meant to think was going on? when he's 'working'
Sorry, I see no issue, they shouldn't demomnstdemonstrate if they think a key meeting of the elites stooges should be their own personal playground. It gets noisy in real demonstrations, and they should learn from it rather than try pissing off Alex Jones, who was doing nothing wrong.
The idea bullhorners take turns or make appointments is ridiculous.
[edit] another FAIL for the anti-Jones crew that infest this forum
newworldengineer
26-01-2010, 05:04 PM
I'm guessing he wasn't on that list to speak? I wonder what organization you have to go through to speak??
I'm on the fence on this one I would've thought he would've joined forces with the people that support his view on that constitutional issue, regardless of the organizations they may have been promoting, but he might not have been able to get a slot on the guest speaking list, we just don't know and he is a powerful speaker, he puts his all into that.
That girl with the handycam was in his obama deception documentary film btw, he maybe could've shown her some respect and exercised some diplomacy with her though. I dunno what to think, waiting for him to talk about it on his show I guess...
whysosirius84
26-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Alex Jones can be rude sometimes. I can't make a more specific judgement on these videos because I don't know enough about the rally. Maybe it was a misunderstanding? I don't know the ins and outs of it all. Thou I see nothing in these videos that coflicts with my impression on certain aspects of Alex Jones' character and personality. He is a force to be reckoned with. When he is 'in the zone' he turns into a bulldozer of truth and niether man nor beast will stand in his way. While this can suck for people who happen to get in his way if it were not for these aspects of his personallity he would not have achieved all he has in my opinion. He is extremely tenacious.
stopthemadness
26-01-2010, 05:11 PM
Alex Jones is a Zionist shill. His job is to infiltrate and divide the 911 truth movement. For almost a decade he deflected any criticism of Israel & Zionism towards "invisible" enemies ... the Bildebergers, Masons, Bush family, etc. Now I'm not saying all of the above weren't involved. Most likely they were. But he specifically tried to deflect attention away from Zionists like Perle, Wolfowitz, and Silverstein.
Now, with everyone questioning why he did this, he's changed tactics. All of a sudden he's outing Zionism in limited fashion. But rest assured, he's only doing this to save his audience.
The divide-and-conquer tactic he's been using is no longer working. Now those who care to research know that Jones's wife & kids are Jewish. Gee, I wonder why he never criticises Israel? Jones himself is probably a Crypto.
I suggest all the Jones listeners just shut him off. Go listen to Daryl Smith at
http://www.iamthewitness.com
Listen to his audio interviews with very educated and intelligent guests. You'll find out in a hurry why Alex Jones is a liar and disinformation artist.
Why David Icke insists on rubbing elbows with him is beyond me.
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 05:14 PM
Well, some us a agreeing it may have just been a misunderstanding. I didn't recognise the lady as from the OD movie so I bet Jones didn't either, he just has too much on his plate, too many faces, too many names to take in on the hoof like that.
I think tuggin' on Jones's arm when he was in a rant was ill-advised..
If you surprise your own dog like that, no matter how friendly, it'll snap at you.
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 05:16 PM
Alex Jones is a Zionist shill. His job is to infiltrate and divide the 911 truth movement. For almost a decade he deflected any criticism of Israel & Zionism towards "invisible" enemies ... the Bildebergers, Masons, Bush family, etc. Now I'm not saying all of the above weren't involved. Most likely they were. But he specifically tried to deflect attention away from Zionists like Perle, Wolfowitz, and Silverstein.
Now, with everyone questioning why he did this, he's changed tactics. All of a sudden he's outing Zionism in limited fashion. But rest assured, he's only doing this to save his audience.
The divide-and-conquer tactic he's been using is no longer working. Now those who care to research know that Jones's wife & kids are Jewish. Gee, I wonder why he never criticises Israel? Jones himself is probably a Crypto.
I suggest all the Jones listeners just shut him off. Go listen to Daryl Smith at
http://www.iamthewitness.com
Listen to his audio interviews with very educated and intelligent guests. You'll find out in a hurry why Alex Jones is a liar and disinformation artist.
Why David Icke insists on rubbing elbows with him is beyond me.
I stopped reading at the 'zoinist shill' bit.
Fcking well wise up, he's the last man on this planet that would stick up that cult. He never stops reminding us of the USS Liberty incident...why would a zionist shill do that? put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.
newworldengineer
26-01-2010, 05:22 PM
I stopped reading at the 'zoinist shill' bit.
Fcking well wise up, he's the last man on this planet that would stick up that cult. He never stops reminding us of the USS Liberty incident...why would a zionist shill do that? put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.
yeah he's a pretty shitty zionist shill :p
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 05:27 PM
yeah he's a pretty shitty zionist shill :p
Yeah, the USS Liberty incident is probably the dirtiest, sneakiest, most cowardly rat thing that bunch have ever done, it made an ordinary person like me sit up and learn about zionism... no way would an agent of them dig up the very worst example of their darkness, not ever.
Jones is clean, the real-deal
largejack
26-01-2010, 05:38 PM
Alex Jones is a Zionist shill. His job is to infiltrate and divide the 911 truth movement. For almost a decade he deflected any criticism of Israel & Zionism towards "invisible" enemies ... the Bildebergers, Masons, Bush family, etc. Now I'm not saying all of the above weren't involved. Most likely they were. But he specifically tried to deflect attention away from Zionists like Perle, Wolfowitz, and Silverstein.
Now, with everyone questioning why he did this, he's changed tactics. All of a sudden he's outing Zionism in limited fashion. But rest assured, he's only doing this to save his audience.
The divide-and-conquer tactic he's been using is no longer working. Now those who care to research know that Jones's wife & kids are Jewish. Gee, I wonder why he never criticises Israel? Jones himself is probably a Crypto.
I suggest all the Jones listeners just shut him off. Go listen to Daryl Smith at
http://www.iamthewitness.com
Listen to his audio interviews with very educated and intelligent guests. You'll find out in a hurry why Alex Jones is a liar and disinformation artist.
Why David Icke insists on rubbing elbows with him is beyond me.
I see, so he's supposed to hate all Jews because a top bunch of them happen to be in control of the world?? And he's not allowed to marry someone who happens (if it is true) to have Jewish DNA in her body?
If there was any truth in what you say his critics would have caught him out years ago. There is not one scrap of evidence he is CIA, P2, Opus Dei, Zionist, Bilderberger, or whatever other peculiar accusations his jealous critics say of him.
And as for divide and conquer, this is the most ridiculous accusation of all. Every show he goes on about how we need to escape the left/right paradigms in politics, how different races need to step out of their tribal mentality and join together, along with people of different status, creed, religion. He goes on about peaceful revolution and how we need to open our hearts to the police, so we can get them on our side, although he admits to being hostile towards them in the past. I think he's very open and honest and almost always admits it when he makes mistakes. And you say he's deliberately trying to divide and conquer us???
I agree that his over the top antics sometimes make me cringe occasionally, but if turns out he does work for them then it must be the strangest form of reverse psychology and deception the Elites have ever used ?
mark1963
26-01-2010, 05:43 PM
He's the real deal, but, it does go to his head sometimes - LOL
newworldengineer
26-01-2010, 05:45 PM
Yeah, the USS Liberty incident is probably the dirtiest, sneakiest, most cowardly rat thing that bunch have ever done, it made an ordinary person like me sit up and learn about zionism... no way would an agent of them dig up the very worst example of their darkness, not ever.
Jones is clean, the real-deal
Plus what he actually stands for as a human being, totally contradicts him being a zionist shill. And what he stands for as a human being shines through what he pits himself up against in the political arena, he's a simple guy to follow really, he walks his talk even if you don't totally agree with all of his talk (values) 100% but I'd hope for anyone 'who wants to be free's' sake they'd agree with the majority of it which has always been pro-freedom.
I agree with his metaphysical knowledge too, I'm always enlightened as to how much I don't know about him when he goes off on one of those tangents.
fedora
26-01-2010, 05:55 PM
From the footage I see it looks like a combination of a misunderstanding and personality conflict. Everyone has an ego. I think in this situation Alex was so passionate about the issue at hand he let his ego get the better of him. When you think about it that happens in families as well. As a person he should realize his error and learn from the experience. If he fails to do so then he will end up hurting his cause to some extent, but to call him a Zionist shill is inaccurate. I could accept "full of himself", "pumped up", "over zealous", but definitely not NWO or Zionist.
kappy0405
26-01-2010, 05:58 PM
Alex Jones is NOT a Zionist shill. That statement is getting so old. It's about as logical as someone saying that David Icke is a Christian shill.
That said, based on what is seen in the video (maybe not the whole story), what Alex did was very rude. These people seem to be supporting the same things the anti-NWO movement does, so he should have let them speak & waited his turn, which the guy with the bullhorn was fully willing to let him have.
nunoyabiznez
26-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Alex Jones is a Zionist shill. His job is to infiltrate and divide the 911 truth movement. For almost a decade he deflected any criticism of Israel & Zionism towards "invisible" enemies ... the Bildebergers, Masons, Bush family, etc. Now I'm not saying all of the above weren't involved. Most likely they were. But he specifically tried to deflect attention away from Zionists like Perle, Wolfowitz, and Silverstein.
total Bullshit.
largejack
26-01-2010, 06:01 PM
I forgot to mention as well, New World Order shills don't turn down lucrative media deals to get their message out, do they Glenn Beck?
beldazar
26-01-2010, 06:03 PM
If Alex Jones was a true warrior for freedom and love, he would have stood up there with those constitutionalists and spoke out with them. He would have joined forces... that's what we're suppose to fucking do. What the hell is he thinking?
I agree
Well, some us a agreeing it may have just been a misunderstanding. I didn't recognise the lady as from the OD movie so I bet Jones didn't either, he just has too much on his plate, too many faces, too many names to take in on the hoof like that.
I think tuggin' on Jones's arm when he was in a rant was ill-advised..
If you surprise your own dog like that, no matter how friendly, it'll snap at you.
Now hang on here, she stood patiently by and gently touched his arm, she didn't surprise him.
I don't think he is a 'zionist shill' but that was the height of rudeness.
Someties his inflated ego gets the better of him.
If he gets a heart attack it won't be induced, he would have brought it on himself :(
kappy0405
26-01-2010, 06:11 PM
"you've got a heart on for me"
that was an arsehole statement... that lady was still giving him his kudos, and then that...
newworldengineer
26-01-2010, 06:17 PM
Alex Jones is NOT a Zionist shill. That statement is getting so old. It's about as logical as someone saying that David Icke is a Christian shill.
That said, based on what is seen in the video (maybe not the whole story), what Alex did was very rude. These people seem to be supporting the same things the anti-NWO movement does, so he should have let them speak & waited his turn, which the guy with the bullhorn was fully willing to let him have.
yeah, thinking back he did, I guess alex jones gets blinded by his own sense of activism when I guess he should've got a sense of what was already going down in that area, awareness is the key... he did look like a bit of a tit because I'm guessing he hasn't won over the people surrounding the other demo.
But as I don't know what fully went down, only got one side of the story, maybe that other demo was trying to shepherd people back into the left/right paradigm and alex was already aware of that and so just ploughed in regardless just so people would know he wasn't affliated with the left/right paradigm... *shrugs*
lobuk
26-01-2010, 06:22 PM
This thread is best ignored folks.
It is just another feeble attempt at discrediting and misleading people and causing upheavel.
There are thousands of Alex Jones video's which clearly show what the man is about and he has done amazing work exposing the Elite and NWO. The man has balls of steel and is a true hero in the Truth Movement.
It is nothing to do with personality when it comes to looking at his astonishing contributions. The guy deserves a lot of credit which is why people continually try and discredit him.
He has certainly done a lot more than the people on this forum who try to discredit him all the time thats for sure.
newworldengineer
26-01-2010, 06:25 PM
I agree
Now hang on here, she stood patiently by and gently touched his arm, she didn't surprise him.
I don't think he is a 'zionist shill' but that was the height of rudeness.
Someties his inflated ego gets the better of him.
If he gets a heart attack it won't be induced, he would have brought it on himself :(
I wouldn't be surprised if the dream I had about him came true, what he does daily can't be that good for his mind, and it seems he hardly gets any sleep aswell, there doesn't seem to be any down time with that dude and I know he feels he has to be on the ball 110%... his mind must be constantly racing and I don't think it's a healthy thing to keep it fired up all the time, you can just get lost in your own thinking.
I sincerely hope that he doesn't blow a gasket, but I dunno...
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 06:30 PM
No one is sacrosanct, even the walk on water AJ!
velma
26-01-2010, 06:33 PM
Jones usurped, hijacked and sabotaged a genuine protest, drowned out their speakers, was offensive to a lady filming him and showed his true colours, with his over-the-top extremist rants which brings the whole patriot movement into disrepute. Now, they can be branded as raving nutters like him... what an obese, ignorant, bastard he has become. :mad:
lextorite
26-01-2010, 06:42 PM
Unless you saw it differently than I did:
1. I saw a peaceful rally going on.
2. I saw a person at the top of the steps speaking through a megaphone.
3. I saw Jones and his cronies march down the sidewalk and AJ screaming into his megaphones at the cameras across the street, which was overpowering the guy at the top of the stairs.
4. I heard people tell Alex to quiet down and that they couldn't hear the guy at the top of the stairs.
5. I SAW and HEARD AJ not giving a crap and NOT SHUTTING UP.
6. I SAW and HEARD people approaching AJ and AJ telling them to "get the hell out of here."
7. I SAW and HEARD people understandably upset that AJ hijacked their rally.
8. I HEARD Alex say, "I want to speak to the mainstream media," which was the only reason he showed up in the first place.
kappy0405
26-01-2010, 06:43 PM
But as I don't know what fully went down, only got one side of the story, maybe that other demo was trying to shepherd people back into the left/right paradigm and alex was already aware of that and so just ploughed in regardless just so people would know he wasn't affliated with the left/right paradigm... *shrugs*
yeah, that's entirely possible.. He did say, "I wanted to speak, but not at THAT event". - so there must be some reason.
I've been trying to find information about them. So far, they seem pretty genuine, tbh.. No Beck worshiping, no over-the-top right wing rhetoric..
wakeup2nwo
26-01-2010, 06:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB03TLRbLX4
http://qik.com/catherinebleish
This is the same day as the other 2 videos from there channel,
This one you have got to see!
ill make my mind up when ive herd jones side of the story! there where loads of cameras there so more footage will show up!!
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
newworldengineer
26-01-2010, 06:49 PM
Jones usurped, hyjacked and sabotaged a genuine protest, drowned out their speakers, was offensive to a lady filming him and showed his true colours, with his over-the-top extremist rants which brings the whole patriot movement into disrepute. Now, they can be branded as raving nutters like him... what an obese, ignorant, bastard he has become. :mad:
You maybe right and that's the sad thing :(
he maybe getting lost in his own self-importance, that's not to say he hasn't done great work and shouldn't be commended for it. But there's something about becoming a big personality that creates a lot of ego electricity in a sense for you to deal with, due to how much attention is put on you and you can get caught up in the cult of personality, I hope he doesn't go down that path and it's a possibility.
no mention of it as yet on his show anywho, well no details as to what went down at the protest...
largejack
26-01-2010, 06:50 PM
No one is sacrosanct, even the walk on water AJ!
Of course he's not, I don't think anyone thinks so, but to start calling him a NWO shill and all the rest of it is pure asinine. Anyone who attacks both the left and the right and stands up for the Constitution, is not a shill.
Also Icke is on good terms with him now, and often uses his info on his headline page. I'm pretty sure David knows who he can or can not trust? And as for 'he should have joined them?' Maybe ? Maybe there were other groups around as well who he was amongst. There's nothing wrong with working alone also, David Icke often comments on how he likes to work alone?
fedora
26-01-2010, 06:57 PM
And as for 'he should have joined them?' Maybe ? Maybe there were other groups around as well who he was amongst. There's nothing wrong with working alone also, David Icke often comments on how he likes to work alone?
Good point :)
kappy0405
26-01-2010, 07:06 PM
oh wow.. I totally missed the second video in the OP...
based off the 2nd video, it's clear that Alex isn't completely in the wrong here. What building was this at? He didn't go there to solely interrupt the other groups demonstration, though he obviously could have handled it better. Other than being more vocal than the other group, I don't really see what he did 'wrong'. They also didn't have to march up to him and get in his face when he was calling out to the building..
I laughed when the cowboy dude puts his face in the camera claiming that this is "solid evidence Jones is working for the bad guys.. because what he's doing is stirring up violence"
Violence!? Wha!? Where!?? Redundant nonsense..
largejack
26-01-2010, 07:45 PM
[QUOTE=kappy0405;1058583961]oh wow.. I totally missed the second video in the OP...
Other than being more vocal than the other group,
Lol, well what did you expect, this is AJ we're talking about, he's bound to drown out all the other speakers combined?
There has to be more to this though? Alex is not a stupid man, he'd be well aware of all the hundreds of cameras on him and would not deliberately reveal his 'true colours' if he had any. He's not bothered about being called a shill, his critics have been calling him that for years, but there are some who for whatever reason attempt to ceaselessly besmirch his name without a shred of evidence.
leviathanstaar
26-01-2010, 08:03 PM
There is no need to decide if AJ is good or bad.
A thing I love pointing out to the people in thier intellectual cliques because they 'know'
It doesnt even matter.
It just doesnt matter.
The only thing in question is his take/info on a very real Nwo, to be disseminated or not.
Everything else at this point(for now anyways) is a tremendous waste of time, as you are surrounded by enemies you can identify without doubts.
It's as counter productive as it's extreme opposite, worshipping the guy as the know all end all of information.
danster82
26-01-2010, 08:50 PM
I dont see what hes done wrong hes just bullhorning his message hes obviously not trying to start violence.
I guess he is playing up to the cameras because he has expectations of him but so what stop bickering about others and do somthing yourself.
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 08:53 PM
lol if it was the other way around how would this have gone? AJ would have flipped his lid and so would all you little AJ sheeple
suzanne4sure
26-01-2010, 09:12 PM
The guy is a ranter. Plus his personality is very hyper and he comes off rather unglued at times. But what do people expect? He is entrenched 24/7 in "his world" exposing a global conspiratorial evil attempting to take over the world...:)
He never takes a break from it evidently. Many of those folks out there have been ardent followers of his and may have felt upstaged. Ok they were upstaged. Alex had a bigger bull horn.
I had to stop listening to him because he talked over guests with constant interruptions, and has had way too many emotional meltdowns on the air for me.
I saw those vids and laughed because that is Alex Jones period. What do people expect? That is what he does.
uksecretcourts
26-01-2010, 09:50 PM
The material he's bringing forward are topics the BBC would never touch upon. So kudos for him for that.
Yes, his bedside manner isn't that of Terry Wogan and the BBC, but then he must spend most of his days not being believed, so his abruptness could come from sheer frustration.
He seems to be linking up with several British people, which is great for us, to get an allay, when the BBC is so behind in Swine Flu topics etc. The BBC and Sky News make me shout at the TV, so maybe I'm getting a touch of the Alex Jones too.
Russia Today calms me down. Celente, Wayne Madsen, Peter Schiff, lots of sense - from the most unexpected champion of a free press, Russia Today.
So I'd vote for the Content.
Alex gives us content. BBC gives glossy presentation but no content. Russia Today has found the mid ground. Reasonable presentation with pretty good content, including Alex himself.
leviathanstaar
26-01-2010, 09:56 PM
The guy is a ranter. Plus his personality is very hyper and he comes off rather unglued at times. But what do people expect? He is entrenched 24/7 in "his world" exposing a global conspiratorial evil attempting to take over the world...:)
He never takes a break from it evidently. Many of those folks out there have been ardent followers of his and may have felt upstaged. Ok they were upstaged. Alex had a bigger bull horn.
I had to stop listening to him because he talked over guests with constant interruptions, and has had way too many emotional meltdowns on the air for me.
I saw those vids and laughed because that is Alex Jones period. What do people expect? That is what he does.
See, now there is a legit critique.
Calling people an 'AJ sheeple' is just ridiculous imho, as there arent in fact very many of them.
Many, many, privatly know the implications about the man, and simply move on, or disseminate his info with caution.
Do you notice that EVERY, yes EVERY, alternative researcher/informationalist (including those aware of and concentrated on zionism, or whatever your know all end all of efforts of direction take you) have the
very same groups of people who just 'know' they are secretly evil.
And the amount of time that is then NOT spent in actually attacking the Nwo in any way?
It's like a disease in the information war.
Now decide, you can keep your opinions on these people gaurded, cautious, and sort them out if and when the time comes.
Or, you can pick one like many of you do, concentrate all your efforts there, only to accomplish absolutely nothing.
The sheer number of peoplestill asleep I have seen shun information on the validity of the Nwo and all that it implies, based purely on someone already in the know having a fit about any one of these guys is disgusting.
In fact I believe it to be in the top 3 reasons why the information doesnt get taken seriously.
Something tells me that's the idea.
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 10:17 PM
fair enough the sheeple was a little harsh, but just as people that get fed up of people knocking AJ, I get fed up people blindly defending a professional conspiracy theorist that is more interested in fame and money than you!
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 10:22 PM
Jones usurped, hijacked and sabotaged a genuine protest, drowned out their speakers, was offensive to a lady filming him and showed his true colours, with his over-the-top extremist rants which brings the whole patriot movement into disrepute. Now, they can be branded as raving nutters like him... what an obese, ignorant, bastard he has become. :mad:
What rubbish!
The crowd that thought they owned the place, didn't like it when Jones walked into the whole demonstration area with his bullhorn.
Granted Jones was noisy, maybe even a little unaware, BUT he did then walk away from the steps area closer toward the main building.
Despite this de-escaltion, the 'steps-crowd' followed him, frankly to pick a fight, with many shouting foul abuse at him. That set the mood when that lady tugged on his arm to get him off the bullhorn.
She got a mouthful of back-off from Jones, which in the circumstances was pretty restrained.
Attempts to turn people from Jones are futile. He hits heavy with increasing numbers of heavyweight guests. Who was the guy on the steps?
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 10:24 PM
fair enough the sheeple was a little harsh, but just as people that get fed up of people knocking AJ, I get fed up people blindly defending a professional conspiracy theorist that is more interested in fame and money than you!
If you knew HALF of what that guy has handed out to others in need you would not say that.
Drop the tired old real-truthers-must-be-poor-as-Ghandi crap will you.
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 10:26 PM
What rubbish!
The crowd that thought they owned the place, didn't like it when Jones walked into the whole demonstration area with his bullhorn.
Granted Jones was noisy, maybe even a little unaware, BUT he did then walk away from the steps area closer toward the main building.
Despite this de-escaltion, the 'steps-crowd' followed him, frankly to pick a fight, with many shouting foul abuse at him. That set the mood when that lady tugged on his arm to get him off the bullhorn.
She got a mouthful of back-off from Jones, which in the circumstances was pretty restrained.
Attempts to turn people from Jones are futile. He hits heavy with increasing numbers of heavyweight guests. Who was the guy on the steps?
Maybe the guy on the steps was just an ordinary guy trying also, someone AJ claims to be helping, why where they there on the same day? was it some kind of protest to something inside?
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 10:28 PM
If you knew HALF of what that guy has handed out to others in need you would not say that.
Drop the tired old real-truthers-must-be-poor-as-Ghandi crap will you.
I am not saying that but how can you deny that he has done more than anyone else in the field to turn it into an industry.
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 10:31 PM
I am not saying that but how can you deny that he has done more than anyone else in the field to turn it into an industry.
So, you'd be happier he didn't get the word out in the huge fashion he hass, solong as he don't earn money, giving you what he does, 6 days a fcking week?
6 DAYS A WEEK???
Oh look, Jeff Rense plugging the story, all the rats come out to hit Jones..
Jealousy stinks.
lobuk
26-01-2010, 10:34 PM
How Ironic it is that people are criticising the manner in which a man who has been fighting the Elite and NWO for over 15 years portrays on 2 videos.
At least he has the Balls to stand up for peoples rights.
Read the full story on what has gone on with illegally closing Gun Shows down. It is on infowars.com aswell as many videos. You might then understand things better and not be so quick to criticise people who are doing something to fight the Tyranny that is bestowed upon us all.
I only wish we had someone like Alex Jones in the UK because we have turned into a right bunch of farts here.
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 10:35 PM
So, you'd be happier he didn't get the word out in the huge fashion he hass, solong as he don't earn money, giving you what he does, 6 days a fcking week?
6 DAYS A WEEK???
Oh look, Jeff Rense plugging the story, all the rats come out to hit Jones..
Jealousy stinks.
Jeff Rense is even worse, at least the info AJ deals with is credible, I have no problem with the info even if some of it is misleading in it's delivery, Tim Rifat for example, a complete twat, talks nonsense about the UK.
So you saying I am Jealous of AJ? I think not.
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 10:45 PM
Not you, them!
Peace :p
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 10:49 PM
Not you, them!
Peace :p
Oh OK my mistake.
suzanne4sure
26-01-2010, 10:50 PM
Well another worthy discussion point IMO on this whole conspiracy theorist's topic, is the fact that many of the "followers" of one theorist go on rants against other theorists in support of their "guru" theorist. I know it is hard to keep up with but just think about one christian sect attacking another. It is a joke.
If you visit the infowars site for example and read the posts carefully there are blatant attacks against other conspiracy theorists who do not take Alex Jone's position. And then of course there are the Alex Jones attackers who are labeled disinformation plants of the government when the post any criticism directed towards him.....:) Ok...
It begins to look like a fucking spiritual cult if you ask me. Sort of like "my theorist" is superior to yours because they are in the "know" and yours is misguided.
People really need to disseminate all information carefully IMO. This is HOW we got duped. We did not try to figure the game out for ourselves. No one is going to be 100% accurate. NO ONE.
Then there are some theorists, Jordan Maxwell comes to mind, who whines, because he is not getting enough "credit" for his truths, which of course implies HIS truth is superior to the other "truths." And in Maxwell's case he seems to assert that his truths were "stolen" by some of the other conspiracy theorists. What a circus. But who are clowns?
I have revised a lot of my thinking in the past month or so and I am pursuing where the information leads me. Getting "stuck" in one position will hinder getting to the bottom of some of this, which may in fact, at the end may not even slightly resemble what you thought at the beginning of the journey.
tb303
26-01-2010, 11:05 PM
I only wish we had someone like Alex Jones in the UK because we have turned into a right bunch of farts here.
True.
Can anyone name anyone who's shouted his way into the mainstream in this zombified country the way Jones has in the US?
tb303
26-01-2010, 11:08 PM
Well another worthy discussion point IMO on this whole conspiracy theorist's topic, is the fact that many of the "followers" of one theorist go on rants against other theorists in support of their "guru" theorist. I know it is hard to keep up with but just think about one christian sect attacking another. It is a joke.
If you visit the infowars site for example and read the posts carefully there are blatant attacks against other conspiracy theorists who do not take Alex Jone's position. And then of course there are the Alex Jones attackers who are labeled disinformation plants of the government when the post any criticism directed towards him.....:) Ok...
It begins to look like a fucking spiritual cult if you ask me. Sort of like "my theorist" is superior to yours because they are in the "know" and yours is misguided.
People really need to disseminate all information carefully IMO. This is HOW we got duped. We did not try to figure the game out for ourselves. No one is going to be 100% accurate. NO ONE.
Then there are some theorists, Jordan Maxwell comes to mind, who whines, because he is not getting enough "credit" for his truths, which of course implies HIS truth is superior to the other "truths." And in Maxwell's case he seems to assert that his truths were "stolen" by some of the other conspiracy theorists. What a circus. But who are clowns?
I have revised a lot of my thinking in the past month or so and I am pursuing where the information leads me. Getting "stuck" in one position will hinder getting to the bottom of some of this, which may in fact, at the end may not even slightly resemble what you thought at the beginning of the journey.
Awesome post! :)
nialldabass
26-01-2010, 11:10 PM
Yeah dissapointed, I've defended him before, i see no evidence in the information he provides to doubt him but always wondered how he could be so succesfull
Also i think he stears the conversasion during interviews, often cutting people off at important points.
My jury is still out I'm afraid:confused:
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 11:16 PM
I only wish we had someone like Alex Jones in the UK because we have turned into a right bunch of farts here.
True, watch us happily show our tits, arses and god-knows what, to the hired goons at the airports, and our children to the paedo's they will inevitably employ....we won't do nothing, just shut-up, que-up, baaa baaaa
as long as we get our beer and X-Factor, who gives a shit.
All they care about, Foo'bawl!! Larrrger!! Jeremy Kyle!!
We're fcked, seriously, and those who stand up and fight, like you, me, no-one will hear of it. We will be quietly censored in the press and swept under the carpet, or if we are really noisy, 'Kelly'd' :(
dantesinferno
26-01-2010, 11:19 PM
True, watch us happily show our tits, arses and god-knows what, to the hired goons at the airports, and our children to the paedo's they will inevitably employ....we won't do nothing, just shut-up, que-up, baaa baaaa
as long as we get our beer and X-Factor, who gives a shit.
All they care about, Foo'bawl!! Larrrger!! Jeremy Kyle!!
We're fcked, seriously, and those who stand up and fight, like you, me, no-one will hear of it. We will be quietly censored in the press and swept under the carpet, or if we are really noisy, 'Kelly'd' :(
Buy a bullhorn and get busy :p
lextorite
26-01-2010, 11:30 PM
Let me ask this question to all the AJ backers, how many of you believe in David Icke's Reptilian theory.
Also, do you listen to 'A View From Space' by Gary Bell every Saturday (or Sunday if downloading the mp3) ?
lobuk
26-01-2010, 11:31 PM
True, watch us happily show our tits, arses and god-knows what, to the hired goons at the airports, and our children to the paedo's they will inevitably employ....we won't do nothing, just shut-up, que-up, baaa baaaa
as long as we get our beer and X-Factor, who gives a shit.
All they care about, Foo'bawl!! Larrrger!! Jeremy Kyle!!
We're fcked, seriously, and those who stand up and fight, like you, me, no-one will hear of it. We will be quietly censored in the press and swept under the carpet, or if we are really noisy, 'Kelly'd' :(
Spot On and well said. :)
clint_giles
26-01-2010, 11:31 PM
personally my opinion is that the people outside of that police station would have been better of listening to alex rant then a couple of joe blows who probably just found out about whats going on in the world and the coming tyranny upon the usa
alex is more informed i would have to think.
although i still question alex and his motives,i am still very greatful to him(and mr icke) for helping me turning a new leaf on life,waking me up to the bullshit lies,and i still think that there is nobody in the truth movement that even comes close to the work alex does day in and day out.
the question is why ? and for what reason(s)
thetruthseeker
26-01-2010, 11:32 PM
It is as confusing as the establishment's dual agenda of the movie version of reality to misdirect the world population through the mainstream media on world events and the real version of events that the alternative media tell us. If there is a conspiracy amongst conspiracy researchers to discredit the movement how the hell are we going to win this fight against the system if we fight amongst ourselves!!. but I guess that is what the establishment is counting on because they have whistleblowers in their organisations that are undermining their agenda too. Classic Divide and Conquer tactics to bring the world to a conflict far worse than any in the past where it turns man against his brother literally on their own streets. A war of opinions that could turn into social breakdown and chaos the like we have never seen before.
lextorite
26-01-2010, 11:33 PM
What rubbish!
The crowd that thought they owned the place, didn't like it when Jones walked into the whole demonstration area with his bullhorn.
How would you like it if you appointed a MC at your wedding reception and while he was doing his speech, I came along with a bullhorn and made my own speech? I sure you'd disapprove that, wouldn't you???
lextorite
26-01-2010, 11:37 PM
And then of course there are the Alex Jones attackers who are labeled disinformation plants of the government when the post any criticism directed towards him.
And the ones attacking AJ have their comments removed and banned...!!!!!!
thetruthseeker
26-01-2010, 11:43 PM
It seems to me that freedom and libertarian groups are turning into competitive animals in an attempt to be recognised as top dogs in their field and taking the plaudits for them esposing this or that. That is no different than what we are trying to change for a better world. What society teaches us at the moment is that we need to be competitive to be successful and survive but even if you win the rat race you are still a rat. Let's not let the persecuted become the persecutors, it can easily happen when after many years fighting something, you end up becoming what you have been fighting all these years. There are countless examples throughout history of this that is why the human race has gone round in circles for so long and never really advanced the most important trait of all, how we all get along in peace and harmony.
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 11:44 PM
Let me ask this question to all the AJ backers, how many of you believe in David Icke's Reptilian theory.
Also, do you listen to 'A View From Space' by Gary Bell every Saturday (or Sunday if downloading the mp3) ?
The 'reptilian brain' thing, the 'medical definition' is fact, it doesn't need belief.
The 'alien DNA' thing, could be true, but to the average man or woman who is battling only with the loss of rights of Free Speech, personal defense, privacy or other constitutional issues, it is a distraction that should go on the back-burner, even if true. It would be information overload, we have to pick our battles, one of the oldest bits of common sense advice there is.
Bottom line, if the NWO win, and among other things, close down the Internet and free radio, we will NEVER know about other things like alien DNA etc and tomorrow's kids won't even know who David Icke was.
lynfowars
26-01-2010, 11:48 PM
How would you like it if you appointed a MC at your wedding reception and while he was doing his speech, I came along with a bullhorn and made my own speech? I sure you'd disapprove that, wouldn't you???
It was an open public street, and Jones was clearly unaware he was over-bull horning the other group.
Nothing more would have come of it, but for them walking down the stairs and following him for a face-to-face confrontation.
There were good reasons for many demonstrations and bullhorners to be there sounding off. The idea this was some kind of invitational-only event is wrong.
christ4life
27-01-2010, 12:30 AM
Alex Jones does look like a fear monger especially in these videos. He wants to get everyone angry so they, and up being shot. I think he just shows up to expose these people so everyone will know who they are, and look at them as the enemy. I do appreciate the information he puts out there but I just have question his motives. He also acts like Howard Dean.
lextorite
27-01-2010, 12:41 AM
It was an open public street, and Jones was clearly unaware he was over-bull horning the other group.
Nothing more would have come of it, but for them walking down the stairs and following him for a face-to-face confrontation.
There were good reasons for many demonstrations and bullhorners to be there sounding off. The idea this was some kind of invitational-only event is wrong.
You didn't answer my question?
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 12:42 AM
This is the same day as the other 2 videos from there channel,
This one you have got to see!
ill make my mind up when ive herd jones side of the story! there where loads of cameras there so more footage will show up!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTLJ3JRQv50
what an arsehole.....:mad:
ive lost the tiny shred of respect i had for the guy, that was utterly below the belt..... driven by his Ego & unstoppable need to shout the loudest for the longest...:eek:
i dont think he even cares about what he's representing anymore, it seems like a media driven frenzy for him now..
fidokrab
27-01-2010, 12:44 AM
If it wasn't for me listening to Alex Jones the past couple years, I would still be some ball-less wuss worshiping materialism and things that don't matter (distractions).
I learned from him how to be a red-blooded, sane, focused, and proud American citizen. I'm not going to let some fool or cointelpro lead me away from these important morals.
And I understand he can be hotheaded and rude at times, but I don't cower away from it. It's like having to deal with a pissed off coach who's seriously "not in the mood" at practice.
lextorite
27-01-2010, 12:48 AM
The 'reptilian brain' thing, the 'medical definition' is fact, it doesn't need belief.
The 'alien DNA' thing, could be true, but to the average man or woman who is battling only with the loss of rights of Free Speech, personal defense, privacy or other constitutional issues, it is a distraction that should go on the back-burner, even if true. It would be information overload, we have to pick our battles, one of the oldest bits of common sense advice there is.
Bottom line, if the NWO win, and among other things, close down the Internet and free radio, we will NEVER know about other things like alien DNA etc and tomorrow's kids won't even know who David Icke was.
Would you say that you have woken up spiritually? I find that people that follow David Icke have while with Alex Jones, it's about anger.
The way you're coming across to me is that you have little respect for David but mountain full for Alex.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 12:50 AM
If it wasn't for me listening to Alex Jones the past couple years, I would still be some ball-less wuss worshiping materialism and things that don't matter (distractions).
I learned from him how to be a red-blooded, sane, focused, and proud American citizen. I'm not going to let some fool or cointelpro lead me away from these important morals.
im glad you found some balls while watching this guy, but the truth is you had that all along.
i too watched him quite a bit in the past, & ive seen him simply get angrier & angrier.... now most ppl will say..''of course he's angry the NWO is crushing us''
but his anger seems based towards anyone who DOES NOT share his views, not simply those in power..
he's certainly not someone i'd want to usher us into ''The New World'' :rolleyes:
lextorite
27-01-2010, 12:52 AM
Folks that a look at this video too, and look at the way Alex Jones treated Zeitgeist Producer Peter Joseph
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=434042117846104780#
ginge51
27-01-2010, 12:55 AM
What did he do wrong? Someone accused him (probably a Glenn Beck supporter) of trying to start trouble, but from what I could see, he was just shouting through his bullhorn like he's done for years. I couldn't tell exactly what was going on, but I know there are many, and some on here who are determined to undermine him for some reason.
Let's just get things into perspective before we hit the self destruct button shall we?
Until I see real evidence that he works for the system I will continue to support what an amazing job he's doing, and also for waking up millions of others who are doing good as a result.
Totally agreed.
A.j is for the people.
Don't forget about the warning thast were sent out in that these other groups 'hijacking' the movement.
He can't be everywhere.
It is impossible.
From listening to his show.
He gets so much stuff correct.
His fail ratio must be what?
10 PERCENT?
GIVE THE GUY A BREAK LOL.
Let the idiots try and debunk him.
Let them live under big brothers laws.
Repressed, no freedoms.
Idiots.
Real dumb people.
ginge51
27-01-2010, 12:57 AM
Folks that a look at this video too, and look at the way Alex Jones treated Zeitgeist Producer Peter Joseph
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=434042117846104780#
You should be banned from this site.
How are you for freedom?
Somebody ban this guy lol.
He is no doub't an Nansy Pelosi fanboi?
OK.
Who is youre freedom mentor in these day's of trouble?
I'd love to know?
Bet it is some idiot like Glenn Beck?
lextorite
27-01-2010, 01:12 AM
You should be banned from this site.
How are you for freedom?
Somebody ban this guy lol.
He is no doub't an Nansy Pelosi fanboi?
OK.
Who is youre freedom mentor in these day's of trouble?
I'd love to know?
Bet it is some idiot like Glenn Beck?
See what I mean, Alex Jones anger.
David Icke and Gary Bell are my 'freedom mentor's'....:D
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 01:16 AM
See what I mean, Alex Jones anger.
David Icke and Gary Bell are my 'freedom mentor's'....:D
lol...... if these lot need ''freedom mentors'' they're not really disconnected from the system at all, still looking outside of themselves for guidance..... following the one in front. :p
my ''freedom mentor'' is myself, i need no one (megaphone or not) to show me this worlds shortcomings. :)
lextorite
27-01-2010, 01:19 AM
This is what the truth movement should be about...LOVE...!!!
Everything is OK on the New York Subway - YouTube
metacomet
27-01-2010, 01:47 AM
another FAIL for the anti-Jones crew that infest this forum
lol, yep.
nunoyabiznez
27-01-2010, 02:16 AM
If it wasn't for me listening to Alex Jones the past couple years, I would still be some ball-less wuss worshiping materialism and things that don't matter (distractions).
I learned from him how to be a red-blooded, sane, focused, and proud American citizen. I'm not going to let some fool or cointelpro lead me away from these important morals.
And I understand he can be hotheaded and rude at times, but I don't cower away from it. It's like having to deal with a pissed off coach who's seriously "not in the mood" at practice.
I agree wholeheartedly!!!!!
camreeno
27-01-2010, 02:55 AM
Sure he might be a little egotistical but that doesn't really make him less credible.
camreeno
27-01-2010, 02:56 AM
Folks that a look at this video too, and look at the way Alex Jones treated Zeitgeist Producer Peter Joseph
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=434042117846104780#I think it's just because that Peter Joseph guy critisized Christianity in his documentaries, and Jones is a Christian.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 03:11 AM
I think it's just because that Peter Joseph guy critisized Christianity in his documentaries, and Jones is a Christian.
i just finished watching that interview (the full 2hrs) & from what i could gather AJ spends his time firewalling peter b/c his thesis basically portrays AJ's approach to be part of the problem, not part of the solution....
that's where the hatred is coming from, its not based on religion AT ALL!!
once again his MASSIVE EGO finds its way to the surface...you can love him all you want, but if you cant even get a decent point across you might as well hang up :mad:
i did love the bit about AJ selling his ''life saving packs'' for $29.99 :p:D
bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 03:21 AM
So what? It's a protest, not a speaking engagement. This isn't about personalities or figureheads. Sorry, but the people on here just don't seem that switched on half the time. You've never been to a protest before, have you? Then again... half of the stuff on here is pro-NWO propaganda anyway. I'm not all that surprised.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 03:22 AM
So what? It's a protest, not a speaking engagement. This isn't about personalities or figureheads. Sorry, but the people on here just don't seem that switched on half the time. You've never been to a protest before, have you?
are you talking to me..??
bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 03:23 AM
2 movements rallying in support of something that never truly existed.
Alex does seem to have the bigger horn.
Something that never existed? are you fucking nuts? The second amendment to the legal document that governs all laws in the United States doesn't exist? What's that wacky tobbackie you're smoking?
bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 03:24 AM
are you talking to me..??
I don't know, am I?
It seems like people on here play in very well into divisions, false solutions, and supporting NWO disinformation.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 03:25 AM
I don't know, am I?
well...if you dont know who your talking to what hope have we got...:confused:
bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 03:28 AM
well...if you dont know who your talking to what hope have we got...:confused:
Did I say yes? I asked YOU whether I was talking about you or not. Do you fit that criteria? There are a number of people on here like that, and a number of additional people on here play into it hook line and sinker.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 03:33 AM
Did I say yes? I asked YOU whether I was talking about you or not. Do you fit that criteria?
im still not even sure what the criteria are TBH..??, you speak in riddles sir, speak plainly & my slow sheep like brain might be able to deliver an answer.....:)
if your insinuating im adding to NWO disinformation, then i can safely say i fall well outside of said parameters...
bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 03:36 AM
By the way, that video was posted by a fake We Are Change organization, right after Cass Sunstein announced the government would be infiltrating the truth movement to try to discredit it and divide it.
Who's side are you on? The bankers or humanity? Alex Jones isn't the point.
bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 03:38 AM
im still not even sure what the criteria are TBH..??, you speak in riddles sir, speak plainly & my slow sheep like brain might be able to deliver an answer.....:)
if your insinuating im adding to NWO disinformation, then i can safely say i fall well outside of said parameters...
Disinfo isn't always conscious. It's placed into the public arena, and then even well meaning people fall for it and promote it. I don't know what your beliefs are, but this video is a total Fed operation if I've ever seen one. It's the return of COINTELPRO as announced by Cass Sunstein last week.
So what? He showed up screaming through a bullhorn just like usual. I don't get why this is a big deal at all.
You do realize that the REAL We Are Change is affiliated with Jones, right? Take a look at the channel that posted this.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 03:46 AM
Disinfo isn't always conscious. It's placed into the public arena, and then even well meaning people fall for it and promote it. I don't know what your beliefs are, but this video is a total Fed operation if I've ever seen one. It's the return of COINTELPRO as announced by Cass Sunstein last week.
You do realize that the REAL We Are Change is affiliated with Jones, right?
i wont pretend to know the ins & outs of his crusade, or the guy he was interviewing...... im simply making observations on what i see with my own eyes. (or hear in this case)
he's arrogant, impatient, cocky, & just an all round aggressor. :(
that does not mean what he speaks about has no merit, he does bring the latest political & social changes to the table, & he does inspire many to ask ''why'', but the character assessment i made was just that....a character ASSESSMENT, its not based on the info he gives us...its the way he gives it.
camreeno
27-01-2010, 03:48 AM
i just finished watching that interview (the full 2hrs) & from what i could gather AJ spends his time firewalling peter b/c his thesis basically portrays AJ's approach to be part of the problem, not part of the solution....
that's where the hatred is coming from, its not based on religion AT ALL!!
once again his MASSIVE EGO finds its way to the surface...you can love him all you want, but if you cant even get a decent point across you might as well hang up :mad:
i did love the bit about AJ selling his ''life saving packs'' for $29.99 :p:D
I see what you're saying. I think Alex is just philosophically deficient. The Zeitgiest films have a big philosophical basis and that's definitely not Jones' strong point, so he just isn't receptive to what they were talking about. For instance in the video where Jones reviewed Zeitgeist: Addendum he was making fun of the Venus Project and proposed that if we lived like that they we would be the "blobs in Wall-E". Pretty naive of him to look at it that way.
I think Jones hones most of his research into the NWO agenda, but is just deficient when it comes to looking at things without that "Fight the NWO!!!" attitude (if that makese sense). He has this antagonistic attitude whereas Peter Joseph looks at it objectively and offers solutions. Their perspectives just don't quite match...
Yeah I laughed when Joseph talked about "Conspiracy dvds for $29.95" or whatever.
leviathanstaar
27-01-2010, 03:49 AM
I want to say that certain posters also absolutely right about something on a fundemental level as well.
The fact that he(or any of them for that matter) have even been out there bullhorning the Nwo, and corruption at alot is more than most here can say.
Of that I am almost certain.
Sure there is always more than meets the eye. But I think people tend to lose touch with just what it is these people are doing.
Creeping the disease of each and every one of them having an entire crowd of people who know of all thier secret evils.
thedefender
27-01-2010, 04:07 AM
Alex Jones was wrong. He marched in on an ego trip and made himself look foolish. He would have had a moment to speak because he would have been asked to speak by those who were there without a doubt. In the end he embarrassed himself and unfortunately forgot to stand next to his peers as one of 'them'. He should have became one of the people there rather than pontificating like a wild boar. I thought he would have known this already.
It doesn't matter if 80% or whatever he said came because of him. They didn't come to hear him. They came to protect their rights and let the voices be heard.
This doesn't discredit Jones but it certainly says alot about his personality and character. Jones has put himself on a pedestal in which he thinks alot have "awaken" because of him and he is their voice. Wrong. I hope next time he thinks and acts like a true representative of the people by standing with them rather than in front of them.
lextorite
27-01-2010, 08:33 AM
another FAIL for the anti-Jones crew that infest this forum
Looks like that Alex Jones anger ego is rubbing of on you.....:D
lextorite
27-01-2010, 08:39 AM
I think it's just because that Peter Joseph guy critisized Christianity in his documentaries, and Jones is a Christian.
I guess Alex Jones hasn't got the message that organized religion is part of the NWO plans. Divide and conquer by having gazillion religions...:p
dantesinferno
27-01-2010, 12:39 PM
Time and time again he does this kind of thing, bully's people and is rude, lots of stuff on his site is posted or written in a misleading way so that it isn't factually wrong but sensationalized or out of context.
The evidence of how he is all over the net, es he is a man and not perfect and he has got a lot of info out and woken many people up, but some of you guys cant even admit his faults and that he may be wrong.
He wants to be your leader, for you to blindly follow him, he needs the conspiratianment Juggernaut to keep going because now it is his life, livelihood, career.
Money and status changes everything, he gets both from what he does.
stopthemadness
27-01-2010, 02:32 PM
I listened to Alex Jones for almost two years. He was my first stop when I realised 911 was an inside job. Slowly I began to realise he always gave vague information. He NEVER talked about the U.S.S. Liberty. NOT ONCE IN TWO YEARS.
Well, if he's mentioning Israel now .... like I said, he's trying to save his audience.
If you stop reading when you hit a "slide" word like Zionist shill that means you have been programmed well by the Zionist media.
lextorite
27-01-2010, 02:34 PM
http://video.tiscali.it/canali/truveo/1361638823.html
http://video.baamboo.com/watch/2/video/178729
Interesting video.
stopthemadness
27-01-2010, 02:53 PM
http://www.iamthewitness.com
Listen to his audio interviews. You'll understand why Alex Jones divides & conquers the truth movement
wakeup2nwo
27-01-2010, 03:07 PM
another view of events!
Alex Jones VS. the Austin Police Department 2, 1/25/10
Alex Jones VS. the Austin Police Department 2, 1/25/10 - YouTube
wakeup2nwo
27-01-2010, 03:20 PM
John Bush Calls Out Alex Jones @ Austin Rally
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
jalexander
27-01-2010, 05:37 PM
You should be banned from this site.
How are you for freedom?
Somebody ban this guy lol.
What sweet irony. The FAIL is strong in this one.
veritasvoice
27-01-2010, 06:19 PM
I really have to wonder how anyone can defend Jones' behavior. He's tearing down activists for the truth/freedom movement, disrupting a rally and then claiming credit for it.
Look up "co-opting the vector" sometime. This is cointelpro to a tee.
Also bear in mind that this fearmonger has been winding up his audience into a frenzy for years now, about how the world is on a knife-edge of collapse...and now: "I'll be here in 20 years." Give that some thought.
Jones supporters: When he says that new activists "don't know what freedom is", he's talking about YOU, if you stopped listening to his show and got up to do something. So you just sit there like a good little drone and let the "professional" go ahead and "defend your rights". You're in good hands.
If there is any lesson to be learned from this - you don't need leaders, because inevitably they will become pied pipers; be your own leader and don't be a follower.
skunksmash
27-01-2010, 06:20 PM
I really have to wonder how anyone can defend Jones' behavior. He's tearing down activists for the truth/freedom movement, disrupting a rally and then claiming credit for it.
Look up "co-opting the vector" sometime. This is cointelpro to a tee.
Also bear in mind that this fearmonger has been winding up his audience into a frenzy for years now, about how the world is on a knife-edge of collapse...and now: "I'll be here in 20 years." Give that some thought.
Jones supporters: When he says that new activists "don't know what freedom is", he's talking about YOU, if you stopped listening to his show and got up to do something. So you just sit there like a good little drone and let the "professional" go ahead and "defend your rights". You're in good hands.
If there is any lesson to be learned from this - you don't need leaders, because inevitably they will become pied pipers; be your own leader and don't be a follower.
what a great post.....:)
kappy0405
27-01-2010, 07:21 PM
He wants to be your leader, for you to blindly follow him..
Alex Jones: "do your own research. don't listen to me. do your own research. dont take my word for it. im only presenting information. dont listen to me. do your own research."
If I had a dime for every time he said something along those lines, I'd be richer than Rockefeller.
He is over the top, he is a sensationalist, but the last thing he wants is for anyone to follow him or anyone else blindly.
dantesinferno
27-01-2010, 07:42 PM
Alex Jones: "do your own research. don't listen to me. do your own research. dont take my word for it. im only presenting information. dont listen to me. do your own research."
If I had a dime for every time he said something along those lines, I'd be richer than Rockefeller.
He is over the top, he is a sensationalist, but the last thing he wants is for anyone to follow him or anyone else blindly.
yeh but don't forget to buy my DVD first and tune in tomorrow!
kappy0405
27-01-2010, 07:45 PM
yeh but don't forget to buy my DVD first and tune in tomorrow!
ye, but don't forget, if you don't have the money, the videos are always available for free online and I encourage everyone to burn copies and give them away from free!! ;)
dantesinferno
27-01-2010, 07:46 PM
ye, but don't forget, if you don't have the money, the videos are always available for free online and I encourage everyone to burn copies and give them away from free!! ;)
true, but you cant deny he wants you in his machine.
adreamtosome
27-01-2010, 08:06 PM
If it wasn't for me listening to Alex Jones the past couple years, I would still be some ball-less wuss worshiping materialism and things that don't matter (distractions).
I learned from him how to be a red-blooded, sane, focused, and proud American citizen. I'm not going to let some fool or cointelpro lead me away from these important morals.
And I understand he can be hotheaded and rude at times, but I don't cower away from it. It's like having to deal with a pissed off coach who's seriously "not in the mood" at practice.
DAMN RIGHT!!!!!
And well said.
I have this one question...
I don't think Alex Jones would be so alloof and go off like that...UNLESS HE HAD A REASON. Was the co-intell there that no one knew about but him? Something more had to have been going on because a good number of people are defending his actions. I was offended at his response to Catherene and that was very innapropriate, but what is it that he sees but we can't???
What am I missing? (Hopefully, not the big picture:D)
dantesinferno
27-01-2010, 08:20 PM
Maybe its an American thing, with the constitution stuff and being free, Us Brits don't have any illusions of being free lol
lextorite
27-01-2010, 11:35 PM
I really have to wonder how anyone can defend Jones' behavior. He's tearing down activists for the truth/freedom movement, disrupting a rally and then claiming credit for it.
Look up "co-opting the vector" sometime. This is cointelpro to a tee.
Also bear in mind that this fearmonger has been winding up his audience into a frenzy for years now, about how the world is on a knife-edge of collapse...and now: "I'll be here in 20 years." Give that some thought.
Jones supporters: When he says that new activists "don't know what freedom is", he's talking about YOU, if you stopped listening to his show and got up to do something. So you just sit there like a good little drone and let the "professional" go ahead and "defend your rights". You're in good hands.
If there is any lesson to be learned from this - you don't need leaders, because inevitably they will become pied pipers; be your own leader and don't be a follower.
A+ ;)
hadabusa
28-01-2010, 03:47 AM
True.
Can anyone name anyone who's shouted his way into the mainstream in this zombified country the way Jones has in the US?
UKIP MEP Nigel Farage stunning attack on PM Gordon Brown !!! - March 2009 - YouTube
and here
Daniel Hannan MEP: The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government - YouTube