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yass
26-01-2010, 01:47 PM
USGS Sends Warning of Extreme Jet Stream and Ocean Currents

by Mitch Battros - Earth Changes Media

I have received a "warning" from the USGS, Western Coastal and Marine Geology
concerning the west coast - from northern Mexico to Alaska. A second thrust of
storms is heading towards Northern California and traveling north to Oregon,
Washington and Alaska. This storm is bringing jet stream winds of over 200 mph.

The cause of this unusually strong surge has been blamed on "El Nino". But what
is El Nino? It is nothing more than an old Peruvian seaman's name for 'shifting
ocean and jet stream currents'. It is unlikely, but possible the five M-Class
flares from last week may have set off a magnetic disturbance affecting the
Earth's core. Recent studies show a far more symbiotic relationship between the
Sun and the Earth's core than previously known.

1998 Published Equation: Sunspots => Solar Flares => Magnetic Field Shift =>
Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents => Extreme Weather and Human Disruption
(mitch battros)

- Watch the Cascadia Subduction Zone - 'Fluid Displacement'

Along with high winds comes an ocean storm surge and torrential rain. Enormous
amounts of water will hit the US West Coast. This event will exacerbate
(intensify) "fluid displacement".

It is the action of fluid displacement (increase or decrease) which can cause
tectonic plates to shift. The storm coming up the US West Coast is just the type
which could set off one of the largest earthquakes to occur in this area since
January 26th 1700 when a 9.1 quake occurred along the Cascadia Subduction Zone
setting off a tsunami across the Pacific hitting Japan and causing countless
deaths.

FULL ARTICLE: http://www.earthchangesmedia.com/mailer/redir.php?id=602&st_id=27

father ted
26-01-2010, 02:54 PM
It's interesting how seemingly external forces can affect earthquake activity and visa versa.

yass
27-01-2010, 01:11 AM
yes, the sun.. the water..

this comes right after the pinapple express front which was expected to dump the entire years seasonal rain.

now this... doesn't bode well.

firstlook
27-01-2010, 01:37 AM
Scientists Concoct "Frankenstorm" Scenario

Forget last week's storms. Scientists at Caltech have come up with the monster of all Pacific storms.

As rain, lightning, hail and even tornadoes arrived in the Southland last week, scientists got together at Caltech to dream up a frightening scenario called the "Frankenstorm."

The hypothetical but plausible storm would be similar to the 1861-1862 extreme floods that temporarily moved the state capital from Sacramento to San Francisco and forced the then-governor to attend his inauguration by rowboat. The scenario "is much larger than anything in living memory," said project manager Dale Cox with the U.S. Geological Survey.

The point of the storm summit -- in a twist of irony, some meetings were actually canceled because of last week's storms -- was to determine the impact of the megastorm. Scientists tried to determine the fictional storm's impact to dams, sewage treatment plants, transportation and the electrical grid.

The "Frankenstorm" would result when a system develops in the Pacific and crashes into the West Coast with hurricane-force winds. After a week of that in Southern California, the system stalls, then another storm builds offshore and wallops Northern California.

We would end up with about 8 feet of rain over three weeks in some areas, according to researchers.

The next step is to estimate economic damages as well as the risk of landslides and coastal erosion and impact to infrastructure and the environment.

The Great Flood of 1861-1862 was believed to be the most powerful and longest series of storms in state history, lasting a month and causing severe flooding. The Sacramento and San Joaquin valleys were water-logged and spontaneous lakes popped up in the Mojave Desert and Los Angeles basin. Nearly a third of the young state's taxable land was destroyed.

Because there are few meteorological records available on the 1861-1862 events, scientists stitched together data from two recent storms to create "Frankenstorm."

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/weather/stories/Scientists-Concoct-Frankstorm--82598777.html
Copyright Associated Press / NBC Los Angeles First Published: Jan 25, 2010 7:59 AM

metacomet
27-01-2010, 01:45 AM
It is the action of fluid displacement (increase or decrease) which can cause
tectonic plates to shift. The storm coming up the US West Coast is just the type
which could set off one of the largest earthquakes to occur in this area since
January 26th 1700 when a 9.1 quake occurred along the Cascadia Subduction Zone


Crap.

California does not need this.

elysiumfire
27-01-2010, 03:52 AM
It is the action of fluid displacement (increase or decrease) which can cause tectonic plates to shift.

Makes perfect sense. The forces at work during fluid displacement can be felt in the hand. Take a deep receptacle and fill it one third with water and swish it around, you will feel the displacement force. Add another third of water and move that about, and the force will feel heavier in the hands and the arms. The same forces are at work in the seas and oceans.

Pressure shifts along the lines where plates move against each other disturb the balance and allow the lines to move suddenly or with greater force, sending out quake shock waves.
I wonder...what corellation exists between solar flare and coronal mass ejections with earthquake activity? When there is greater solar activity affecting our planet, is there a corresponding growth in earthquake activity and intensity?

bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 04:12 AM
Hmmmm. Is this even real? It looks a little suspect. I live in Washington, and "the crickets are chirping", so to speak. There isn't even a hint of a storm.

bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 04:20 AM
The usgs.gov website doesn't say anything about this whatsoever.

Fake.

mrblitz
27-01-2010, 06:42 AM
yeah, it looks calm: http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_ir_west.html

sodi
27-01-2010, 06:58 AM
so no big storm for california ?

yass
27-01-2010, 08:40 AM
The usgs.gov website doesn't say anything about this whatsoever.

Fake.

or changed  9th down http://earthchangesmedia.com/

bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 10:39 AM
or changed  9th down http://earthchangesmedia.com/

Eh? That site isn't the USGS site. You're looking for www.usgs.gov.

The USGS doesn't have a warning whatsoever for any such storms on the Pacific coast of America. I LIVE on the Pacific coast of America and it's calmer than fuck. There isn't even a breeze. I think that "earthchangesmedia" is a fake site. Why are they the only ones reporting this? About the worst thing I could find was a slight chance of a mild rainstorm in California. Doesn't seem all that frightening.

If you can find me an actual USGS warning, then I'll believe you.

rodin
27-01-2010, 10:40 AM
WTF

Global speeding now :confused:

anthony1965
27-01-2010, 10:56 AM
Here is an excellent resource.

It's possible to see archived images as well.

http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html

entrangermercenary
27-01-2010, 11:08 AM
So is there a storm coming or not ?? :)

Err btw just because its calm now, with no wind does that mean there will not be a storm ??:)

arthurlydiard
27-01-2010, 12:56 PM
My god, you people will believe anything.

jiffy
27-01-2010, 01:53 PM
http://www.usgs.gov/alerts/cap/USGS-landslides.20100119T021530

Category: Geo Event: Flash Flood and Debris Flow Warning for Southern California burned areas
Urgency: Immediate
Severity: Severe
Certainty: Very Likely
Sender Name: Joseph Gartner

Headline: Flash Flood and Debris Flow Warning for Southern California burned areas

Description: On Monday, January 18, 2010 the National Weather Service issued flash flood and debris flow warnings for the recently burned areas in Los Angeles, San Bernardino and San Diego Counties. The fires included in the warnings are the Station, Morris, Sheep, Oak Glen, Pendleton, and Poomacha Fires. Doppler radar indicated heavy rain and possible thunderstorms moving into each of the burned areas. More storms are expected to arrive later this week.

Instruction: A flash flood warning means that flooding is imminent or occurring. If you are in the warning area, move to higher ground immediately. Residents living along streams and creeks should take immediate precautions to protect life and property. Do not attempt to cross swiftly flowing waters or waters of unknown depth by foot or by automobile.

yass
27-01-2010, 02:39 PM
The storm may have been downgraded.

bowtiedaddy
27-01-2010, 02:51 PM
On the 18th.

the apprentice
27-01-2010, 03:42 PM
Hmmmm. Is this even real? It looks a little suspect. I live in Washington, and "the crickets are chirping", so to speak. There isn't even a hint of a storm.

I believe you BTD.

You know what, I recconn that earthquakes are down to the sheer weight of the water on the ocean floors and only small changes in pressure can trigger off earthquakes in this way, it wouldn't need much to upset things, a small nuclear device or something with enough power would go relatively unoticed on innitial impact, not at those depths anyway and simply register as an earthquake on the RS.

Most of the early nuke tests were done as air burst wern't they, just a wild thought but it might just work to move things along, under water all the force would go down over and into the rock, a bit like those shaped water charges in demolition, we know that water cannot be compressed and it already has many of the ingedients in it to make explosive gasses etc.

jiffy
27-01-2010, 03:43 PM
On the 18th.

Yeah I know, was all I could find.


The cause of this unusually strong surge has been blamed on "El Nino". But what is El Nino? It is nothing more than an old Peruvian seaman's name for 'shifting ocean and jet stream currents'.

But then reading this quote, says it all.:rolleyes:

yass
27-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Hmmmm. Is this even real? It looks a little suspect. I live in Washington, and "the crickets are chirping", so to speak. There isn't even a hint of a storm.
Are you telling me you've never heard the term, "the calm before the storm"?

It means something, just like "A stitch in time saves nine" does... don't know if you've ever heard it either, but essentially, once a stitch pops, if you don't mend it, the more stitches will pop and break and there'll be more to have to mend (so sooner you get to it the better).



Eh? That site isn't the USGS site. You're looking for www.usgs.gov.

The USGS doesn't have a warning whatsoever for any such storms on the Pacific coast of America. I LIVE on the Pacific coast of America and it's calmer than fuck. There isn't even a breeze. I think that "earthchangesmedia" is a fake site. Why are they the only ones reporting this? About the worst thing I could find was a slight chance of a mild rainstorm in California. Doesn't seem all that frightening.

If you can find me an actual USGS warning, then I'll believe you.

Yeah, I live in Oregon myself. Mitch Battros has been around for a very long time and you can read his bios. I believe he said he was told, or tipped, by someone at USGS... whether it still holds or has been downgraded, I don't know.

As for believing me, I didn't write the report, it was posted at another site and I read it and thought it would be good to share it with others... heads up kind of thing... or look out for what may be coming.

I am familiar with Mitch Battros site, he's long established.


I shared this, too, which just passed. This is also not from USGS.

Deborah (15 Jan 2010)
"SEVERE WEATHER WARNING: Pineapple Express to DRENCH Calif over next 3 weeks!

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2010/deborah115-3.htm


wiki has a page about pineapple express
a picture from a 2006 flood
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/800px-Granite_Falls_26428.jpg

Pineapple Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Some of the aftermath of what just passed


Storms trash Calif. beaches, bring snow to AZ, NM
http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww114/unfathomable_album/calistorm.jpg

Sat Jan 23, 6:47 pm ET

SEAL BEACH, Calif. – The sky was blue and the sun bright for the first time in days after a week of powerful Southern California rain storms, but all Victoria Macey could see was the mountain of steaming trash and twisted debris on her favorite beach.

"I'm completely shocked. From our house, all we could see was gorgeous clouds and then we come down here and there's so much trash, it's really sad," Macey said as she photographed a sopping plastic baby doll propped atop an overturned end table. "I can't believe how many shopping carts there are. That's what blows my mind."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100123/ap_on_re_us/us_stormy_weather




Storm lingers over Ariz after battering Calif

Fri Jan 22, 8:59 pm ET

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. – The remnants of the biggest storm to hit Arizona in nearly two decades lingered over the state Friday after drenching California, while authorities in both states continued to tally the damage.

In Arizona, flooding swept through small towns, caused a train derailment and closed major interstates. Snow collapsed roofs in the northern part of the state. Meanwhile, searchers looked for a 6-year-old boy swept away late Thursday in a flood.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100123/ap_on_re_us/us_stormy_weather_5


Aftermath of storm still being felt
By Michael K. Rich
January 27, 2010


Rancho El Dorado Parkway remains flooded days after a massive winter storm hit Arizona.


Nearly four days after a massive winter storm dropped more than 2 inches of rain on Maricopa and several more in other cities across the Valley, road closures remain, and city employees repair the damages.

“We thought the wash would have stopped running by now,” said John Bemis, city superintendent of public works. “We believe it will end in the next couple of days."

Currently, Bemis said the wash is about two to three feet deep where it crosses Porter Road, but by the time it reaches Rancho El Dorado Parkway that depth drops to four to six inches.

This running water and pools of water have caused closures to remain in effect at Rancho El Dorado Parkway on both the north and south sides, Porter Road south of the railroad tracks and Farrell Road between White and Parker and Hartman Roads.

http://www.inmaricopa.com/NEWS/NewsArticleDetails/tabid/99/Default.aspx?ArticleID=7524&&mid1=390



It's not the west coast, but another storm is expected in Arizona...

Sunny today, cloudy tomorrow, another storm moving in Wednesday

Posted on January 25, 2010 at 7:12 AM

Updated Monday, Jan 25 at 5:55 PM
******

PHOENIX -- Another storm system is moving into Arizona, and while it's weaker than the last storm to roll through the state, it could bring more rain and snow, and that has some people concerned.

http://www.azfamily.com/weather/Sunny-today-cloudy-tomorrow-another-storm-moving-in-Wednesday-82590482.html


You should read this entire page at USGS and watch the videos. Quite interesting.

ARkStorm: West Coast Storm Scenario

The USGS Multi Hazards Demonstration Project (MHDP) is preparing a new emergency-preparedness scenario, called ARkStorm, to address massive U.S. West Coast storms analogous to those that devastated California in 1861–62. Storms of this magnitude are projected to become more frequent and intense as a result of climate change.

http://urbanearth.usgs.gov/winter-storm/

Ark... like Noah's ark eh? Some listened and prepared, but most? Were busy partying, marrying...

ex sheep
27-01-2010, 05:15 PM
My god, you people will believe anything.

You know what, we're just scratching the surface, and it goes deep, very deep.

I would rather listen to people speculate here, than listen to main stream any day.

yass
27-01-2010, 05:20 PM
From the USGS page a reference to the Pineapple Express...

The nontechnical term “Pineapple Express” is popularly used to describe the meteorological phenomenon that causes moisture to be drawn from the Pacific Ocean near the equator and transported to the U.S. West Coast with firehose-like ferocity. Atmospheric rivers are embedded within much broader atmospheric storms referred to technically as “extratropical cyclones” (ECs). ECs are the winter-time analogue to hurricanes, but have much different structure. Also, they gain their energy largely from the pole-to-equator temperature contrast, unlike hurricanes, which draw their energy from ocean surface heat content. ARs are the business end of ECs because where the AR hits the mountains it can create extreme precipitation, flooding and high winds. In terms of impacts, an AR is to the broader EC it is embedded within, as the hurricane eyewall is to the broader hurricane of which it is a part. The importance and structure of ARs has become recognized recently through new satellite data and field experiments.

http://urbanearth.usgs.gov/winter-storm/

father ted
28-01-2010, 03:32 AM
My god, you people will believe anything.

That's a bit hypocritical:D