View Full Version : Have you read "Behold a Pale Horse"...?
mahabaratara
21-09-2007, 06:03 PM
And if so what were your thoughts on its contents...?
supertzar
21-09-2007, 06:29 PM
That was my first hardcore non-fiction conspiracy book. It's fascinating. Some of it is probably true and some is not. I think Cooper later decided that he had been fed a lot of disinfo that he believed at the time of writing.
Listening to his show is intolerable. How pompous can you get? I listened to his analysis of 2001: A Space Oddysey and had to turn it off. I suppose back in the day listening to it on pirate radio might have been fun, though.
thetonic
21-09-2007, 07:16 PM
William Cooper (R.I.P.) was an amazing man... This book changed my life .. He does make cautionary statements throughout the book regarding much of the e.t. information as highly suspicious, in essence, he knew that they might have shown him some of the stuff , in order to help spread disinfo, but he knew damn well by at least mid nineities that the e.t shit was a hoax, and later discussed much of that on the air and in articles he wrote...
He predicted an attack, even naming osama bin laden as the scapegoat, a few months prior to 911... He was shortly thereafter disposed of because of his knowledge and ability to connect the dots on the NWO..
Highly recommend the book!
intruder
21-09-2007, 07:25 PM
Despite Bill's overall professionalism, Behold A pale....WAS a bit pale.
Putting "top secret" on every page was sensationalist. Bill was very passionate about informing the public. I agree with Supertzar that he could be pompous on radio, but he could also sound like a gentle teddy bear...when he wanted to.
I DO KNOW THIS!!! The Eager County (where Bill lived in Arizona) Police would NOT have taken him out. NO...It was the nearby Apache County Sherrif's Office that was summoned to do the dirty deed. The killer of William Cooper was Brian Hounshell (hound of hell?) 17 Cops show up at midnight to allegedly serve an arrest warrant!?!?! WTF!?!?!?
Bill had a way of mobilizing his audience...he could light a fire under his listeners...similar to David Icke. The powers that be KNEW that he would have been a VERY effective voice in the 9/11 truth movement, so they used the cover of 9/11 to murder him....on November 6/01.
My birthday is November 6.
raffles
21-09-2007, 07:29 PM
William Cooper (R.I.P.) was an amazing man... This book changed my life .. He does make cautionary statements throughout the book regarding much of the e.t. information as highly suspicious, in essence, he knew that they might have shown him some of the stuff , in order to help spread disinfo, but he knew damn well by at least mid nineities that the e.t shit was a hoax, and later discussed much of that on the air and in articles he wrote...
He predicted an attack, even naming osama bin laden as the scapegoat, a few months prior to 911... He was shortly thereafter disposed of because of his knowledge and ability to connect the dots on the NWO..
Highly recommend the book!
Has anyone seen the talk he gave ? ive got it on cd somewhere i thinks its called "behold a pale horse"
Theres one part where he shows a picture of a model of an alien taken from a us magazine, its supposed to be a 9ft bronze statue.
But when he zoomed in on the skin you could actually see the cracks and hairs on its skin, a bronze statue would not have these.
He belived this picture to be of a real alien.
thetonic
21-09-2007, 07:34 PM
Has anyone seen the talk he gave ? ive got it on cd somewhere i thinks its called "behold a pale horse"
Theres one part where he shows a picture of a model of an alien taken from a us magazine, its supposed to be a 9ft bronze statue.
But when he zoomed in on the skin you could actually see the cracks and hairs on its skin, a bronze statue would not have these.
He belived this picture to be of a real alien.
cracks and hairs eh?... since when do aliens have hair?
raffles
21-09-2007, 07:37 PM
cracks and hairs eh?... since when do aliens have hair?
Hunt the video down if you can, ive spent ages trying to find the picture on the web but no luck so far.:mad:
revolution 9
21-09-2007, 07:39 PM
The first time I heard of it was in an Ethiopian restaurant in Baltimore city. I thought it sounded very interesting, though the person telling me about it actually didn't give me the correct details, I came to learn.
Anyway, years later I was introduced to the 9/11 scene and really got into conspiracy research and bought "Behold a Pale Horse." It was the first book on the subject I'd ever read and it really freaked me out.
It's one of the first books I suggest to people, along with "Rule By Secrecy" if they're really serious and "The Gods of Eden" since even if you ignore the alien parts it's actually really detailed on the other aspects as well.
Cooper remains probably my favorite researcher. I agree with less of what he said than some other authors, but something about him I liked. The downside of the book, though, is how much of the material is readily available and that you've probably already read. If you're new to it though, it's a good way to get those materials in a hard copy all in one book. For reference alone it's worth buying.
intruder
21-09-2007, 08:12 PM
The alien you are seeking was featured in "Aviation Week and Space Technology".(date?!) It was an ad for Amoco Oil, the caption read.."Technology so advanced that we had help".
And DAMN was that picture convincing. It's really hard to find it now, even on the web. Somewhere at home I have a laser copy of the ad and the detail is amazing. Most people are taken aback when they first see it.
When Bill called Aviation Week....to inquire about the "alien" he said..."could I have the name of the sculptor who made the alien?" they responded.."you mean the photographer?"
Anyway, they changed their story numerous times. At one time they were told that it was a 6" clay sculpture...to a 6' bronze statue.
The picture gave me the chills initially...it looks SO damn real. The detailing on the skin is amazing.
lookfar
21-09-2007, 08:25 PM
Haven't read it yet, but it's on my list of books to read soon (which is rather large at the mo & nowhere near enough time to get thru em all, lol!)...
raffles
21-09-2007, 08:50 PM
The alien you are seeking was featured in "Aviation Week and Space Technology".(date?!) It was an ad for Amoco Oil, the caption read.."Technology so advanced that we had help".
And DAMN was that picture convincing. It's really hard to find it now, even on the web. Somewhere at home I have a laser copy of the ad and the detail is amazing. Most people are taken aback when they first see it.
When Bill called Aviation Week....to inquire about the "alien" he said..."could I have the name of the sculptor who made the alien?" they responded.."you mean the photographer?"
Anyway, they changed their story numerous times. At one time they were told that it was a 6" clay sculpture...to a 6' bronze statue.
The picture gave me the chills initially...it looks SO damn real. The detailing on the skin is amazing.
Thats the one mate !! thanks for the info anychance you can scan/post the picture sometime ?
I can't find it anywhere. :mad:
intruder
21-09-2007, 08:54 PM
Thats the one mate !! thanks for the info anychance you can scan/post the picture sometime ?
I can't find it anywhere. :mad:
I'll do my best. NO promises though. I've searched the web numerous times and that photo has been .....alienated.
raffles
21-09-2007, 09:09 PM
I'll do my best. NO promises though. I've searched the web numerous times and that photo has been .....alienated.
Cheers, make you wonder how a photo like could vanish.
intruder
21-09-2007, 09:27 PM
Yeah, I've got some digging to do at home. I have a copy somewhere :( but this goes back 15 years now. IT IS the archetypal "gray" alien. Yet..there is a quality in the eyes and skin that is ALIVE!!
astro zombie
21-09-2007, 10:12 PM
I have this book in pdf format, haven't read all of it yet though. It's really good, Bill comes off as really genuine guy.
Here's a link to the (pdf) book:
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anoninnyc
21-09-2007, 10:32 PM
thanks astro zombie.
astro zombie
22-09-2007, 06:05 PM
Fuck yeah you bet man.:cool:
trumansho
22-09-2007, 06:08 PM
Yes, I read the book and it mentions that Aids was created to kill off black people.
bicycle
22-09-2007, 06:14 PM
And if so what were your thoughts on its contents...?
Have you read it?
anoninnyc
23-09-2007, 02:15 AM
Yes, I read the book and it mentions that Aids was created to kill off black people.
not from the book, but in my opinion as well as what i have read elsewhere that this is because of all of the natural resources in africa. i know it is harsh of me, but i am opposed to all of the money for aids drugs given in africa. yes it helps out those africans with aids, but it also spreads the problem. why not spend the money on a cure if they are so serious about stopping aids.
as for the book, i skimmed through parts as it was a bit boring. also a lot of the info i knew already. the stuff on the federal reserve is very important. i always say that is the number one system keeping us down. i also agree that the threat of aliens is going to put us under a one world govt. info has been leaked and you even see stuff about it on the history channel.
eat_a_grey
23-09-2007, 04:44 PM
Excellent book!I read this book shortly after it was published.
It really changed my perception of alot of things,I think two of the most important books I read that got me to think outside of the box was this one and Timothy Good's Above Top Secret.
Say what you will about William Cooper,but this guy gave his life for what he believed in.
archangel
23-09-2007, 05:15 PM
William Cooper (R.I.P.) was an amazing man... This book changed my life .. He does make cautionary statements throughout the book regarding much of the e.t. information as highly suspicious, in essence, he knew that they might have shown him some of the stuff , in order to help spread disinfo, but he knew damn well by at least mid nineities that the e.t shit was a hoax, and later discussed much of that on the air and in articles he wrote...
He predicted an attack, even naming osama bin laden as the scapegoat, a few months prior to 911... He was shortly thereafter disposed of because of his knowledge and ability to connect the dots on the NWO..
Highly recommend the book!
So your mean to tell me B.COOPER predicted a "fake terror attack on america" and even went so far as to say Osama Bin Laden would be used as a scapegoat and blamed for it????
If thats true, I find that amazing....
What was he being arrested for??? Not paying his taxes?? They send a group of cops to his house at Midnight b/c he wasn't paying his taxes? :confused::confused::confused:
intruder
23-09-2007, 06:52 PM
So your mean to tell me B.COOPER predicted a "fake terror attack on america" and even went so far as to say Osama Bin Laden would be used as a scapegoat and blamed for it????
If thats true, I find that amazing....
What was he being arrested for??? Not paying his taxes?? They send a group of cops to his house at Midnight b/c he wasn't paying his taxes? :confused::confused::confused:
NO! Taxes had NOTHING to do with it. He had brandished a side arm to a stranger on his property. This individual complained to the local sherrif...which began the bogus charges of William Cooper being "dangerous"....as I said before, this was handed over to the Apache County Sheriff's office who then proceeded to murder him. There's was probably a degree or two earned for being the killer. They feared Bill mobilizing his audience post 9/11 as he would have been MUCH MORE effective than Alex Jones and others.
thetonic
23-09-2007, 07:21 PM
So your mean to tell me B.COOPER predicted a "fake terror attack on america" and even went so far as to say Osama Bin Laden would be used as a scapegoat and blamed for it????
If thats true, I find that amazing....
What was he being arrested for??? Not paying his taxes?? They send a group of cops to his house at Midnight b/c he wasn't paying his taxes? :confused::confused::confused:
This is true to my knowledge Archangel , i will find the audio for you , hold on
thetonic
23-09-2007, 08:31 PM
This is a fantastic homage to William and it has the radio segment where he predicts 9/11...
Enjoy ... Cant figure the video embed for this forum?...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2829245257205113781&q=william+cooper&total=652&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
anoninnyc
23-09-2007, 08:33 PM
hey thetonic, could you post that again please??????????????
thetonic
23-09-2007, 09:06 PM
hey thetonic, could you post that again please??????????????
This is a fantastic homage to William and it has the radio segment where he predicts 9/11...
Enjoy ... Cant figure the video embed for this forum?...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2829245257205113781&q=william+cooper&total=652&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
I posted again because i really want people to watch...
eat_a_grey
23-09-2007, 10:20 PM
you can also find alot of Cooper's audio recordings on conspiracy central ;)
archangel
23-09-2007, 10:51 PM
NO! Taxes had NOTHING to do with it. He had brandished a side arm to a stranger on his property. This individual complained to the local sherrif...which began the bogus charges of William Cooper being "dangerous"....as I said before, this was handed over to the Apache County Sheriff's office who then proceeded to murder him. There's was probably a degree or two earned for being the killer. They feared Bill mobilizing his audience post 9/11 as he would have been MUCH MORE effective than Alex Jones and others.
excuse my ingnorance, But do you mean he "brandished" a side arm?
archangel
23-09-2007, 10:53 PM
This is a fantastic homage to William and it has the radio segment where he predicts 9/11...
Enjoy ... Cant figure the video embed for this forum?...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2829245257205113781&q=william+cooper&total=652&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
I posted again because i really want people to watch...
thanks bro,
I will check this out today!!
so B.Cooper was murdered in November of 01??
Did he have any radio broadcast post 9/11????
anoninnyc
24-09-2007, 12:59 AM
This is a fantastic homage to William and it has the radio segment where he predicts 9/11...
Enjoy ... Cant figure the video embed for this forum?...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2829245257205113781&q=william+cooper&total=652&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2
I posted again because i really want people to watch...
THANK YOU
intruder
24-09-2007, 01:55 PM
excuse my ingnorance, But do you mean he "brandished" a side arm?
He "revealed" that he was a carrying a side arm, a gun, to this stranger...just to let him know. All that was perfectly legal. And this occurred in the summer of 2001. They were doing SOMETHING to create mis-trust regarding Bill. Apparently this individual complained and complained. It was all part of a "stage show" to trump up false accusations against Bill.
celtic isis
24-09-2007, 05:05 PM
And if so what were your thoughts on its contents...?
OMG where to start! this is the book that started me on this journey!
i'l be back ;)
thanks for starting this thread! :D
anoninnyc
24-09-2007, 06:36 PM
the video that thetonic posted is definitely worth watching. i think bill cooper was the real deal.
David Icke is allowed to live because he is soooooo in the public eye, in Britain at least. His whole reptilian thing makes him too far out there for the average Joe, so people won't take him as seriously. Also I think in a way David Icke owes his life to Wogan. Wogan made him (extremely unfairly) look like a madman on national television. This makes him much less of a threat.
I am kind of shocked that Bill Cooper's death is so unknown. I honestly didn't know who he was until relatively recently (and i am american) and it was this thread that got me to really listen to what he had to say. I think I saw a video of his regarding the Kennedy shooting on youtube, but that was random. Most of the info in his book I already knew, probably because he influenced later writers and conspiracy theorists.
astro zombie
27-09-2007, 01:03 AM
I have this book in pdf format, haven't read all of it yet though. It's really good, Bill comes off as really genuine guy.
Here's a link to the (pdf) book:
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Sorry about this guys!:o I didn't think about that when I posted it, I'll put the link in a pm next time.
revolution 9
27-09-2007, 04:30 AM
Fortunately, as I said, most of it is available free and uncopywritten:
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/treasoninhighplaces/treasoninhighplaces.html
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/williamrpabst/williamrpabst1.html
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/lessonsfromlithuania/lessonsfromlithuania.html
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/silentweaponsforquietwars/silentweaponsforquietwars1.html
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/newstatesconstitution/newstatesconstitution.html
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/oathofinitiation/oathofinitiation.html
http://www.geocities.com/newstatesascendant/protocols/protocols.html
That is a bulk of what is in his book(all of which is public domain or has a note that it should be spread). The other few chapters are easily found. As I said though, it's worth buying to have all this in a hard copy.
vienna
27-09-2007, 10:01 AM
4.5 hours presentation of 'Behold a Pale Horse' video by BIll Cooper
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-729985813912005672&q=behold+a+pale+horse&total=61&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
very chilling stuff
sensimillia
27-09-2007, 10:15 AM
the image with the "hairy" alien is at about 3h 32min in the film. watch from there...
mahabaratara
27-09-2007, 01:43 PM
Three pages!
Thanks for the replies I will have to comment later!
regards maha
vienna
27-09-2007, 02:09 PM
the image with the "hairy" alien is at about 3h 32min in the film. watch from there...
bloody good bit of research there fella!
sensimillia
27-09-2007, 04:15 PM
bloody good bit of research there fella!
haha, donīt know if you are being sarcastic, but thanks for posting the video vienna!:)
phoenix1
28-09-2007, 02:53 AM
Three pages!
Thanks for the replies I will have to comment later!
regards maha
Hi Maha .. long time no see man !! Yeah Ive read it a good while back.,, brilliant read.. ans smack on for my money. I posted ALL Bills Vidoes someplace and Phil Schneidr's too, erm early on in video secton I think.
Good to see you in here about time you showed up here.. and about time I showed upat illusions i guess too... yeah i must get back over and post there too, and at Abhies
All the Love My Friend
Namaste
Phoenix :D:D:D:):):)
vienna
28-09-2007, 10:19 AM
haha, donīt know if you are being sarcastic, but thanks for posting the video vienna!:)
you must have had to watch all of it to track that small portion down... I was being sincere :), it's the pipe, it makes me sound sarcastic
sensimillia
28-09-2007, 10:29 AM
you must have had to watch all of it to track that small portion down... I was being being sincere :), it's the pipe, it makes me sound sarcastric
not really, i had seen it before and remembered the picture in question to be found towards the end of the docu. the pipe stays...;)