Help with teenager please

[mariag]

Greetings to all of you !
I have a little minor dilemma with my teenage daughter .She thinks my awakening is all nonsense , and keep on ignoring all the facts I am telling her about disney and music and sublimial messages etc. She thinks this is all humbug.I am very concerned that she might be in trouble,like in some sort of possesed state of mind.I know this sounds utterly strange, but this is how i Feel, and after studdying all of this illuminati , i am aware that mind controll exist .
Please , if you have any advice in how to open her eyes , and help me to help her to stop watching these shows and all of the other stuff that she does.

[lilly555]

Greetings to all of you !
I have a little minor dilemma with my teenage daughter .She thinks my awakening is all nonsense , and keep on ignoring all the facts I am telling her about disney and music and sublimial messages etc. She thinks this is all humbug.I am very concerned that she might be in trouble,like in some sort of possesed state of mind.I know this sounds utterly strange, but this is how i Feel, and after studdying all of this illuminati , i am aware that mind controll exist .
Please , if you have any advice in how to open her eyes , and help me to help her to stop watching these shows and all of the other stuff that she does.

Most of her rejection of this stuff is probably based on a fear that she will be outcasted by her peers. Teenage girls often seem to be the most conformitive group. As for the possessed part, maybe her fear of accepting this stuff has a grip on her mind and is linking her up to an energy that is encouraging her to reject it. In her state she probably doesn't trust that it's worth it to wake up. It's a cycle of fear, I know, I was there when my father first introduced this stuff to me. I don't know what to say other than that I would take baby steps and try hone in on the part of her that is actually listening to you. The "possessed" part of her is probably trying to block you from accessing that part of her and she is giving in to it. I've tried to think up some better advice but I ending up typing this. It's tricky because the more you "push" the more she will be programmed to push back. Be gentle, show her some empathy and compassion for her current state when you talk to her about this. It's hard to open her eyes is she wants them to be closed.

My 2 p's.

[mariag]

Most of her rejection of this stuff is probably based on a fear that she will be outcasted by her peers. Teenage girls often seem to be the most conformitive group. As for the possessed part, maybe her fear of accepting this stuff has a grip on her mind and is linking her up to an energy that is encouraging her to reject it. In her state she probably doesn't trust that it's worth it to wake up. It's a cycle of fear, I know, I was there when my father first introduced this stuff to me. I don't know what to say other than that I would take baby steps and try hone in on the part of her that is actually listening to you. The "possessed" part of her is probably trying to block you from accessing that part of her and she is giving in to it. I've tried to think up some better advice but I ending up typing this. It's tricky because the more you "push" the more she will be programmed to push back. Be gentle, show her some empathy and compassion for her current state when you talk to her about this. It's hard to open her eyes is she wants them to be closed.

My 2 p's.

Thank You
Yes You are probably right,baby steps is the way.I know about the push thing , it never works with kids .I know how i reacted when i met a friend, Mikael, and he sort of introduced me to this world of awakening.I thought he was mad, and seriously, i thought that he was possesed lol. now of course i feel different and have the knowledge as he has.I want my children to be awake too ,but it is really hard .
Once awake , there is a whole new world opening , and its like returning to school and being rescolard but this time with thruth and chocking knowledge. It is not easy when you realise that you have been lied to all your life, and maybe thats why my daughter is scared too.She might even feel secure in the "normal" sleeping world.

[adimon]

Thank You
Yes You are probably right,baby steps is the way.I know about the push thing , it never works with kids .I know how i reacted when i met a friend, Mikael, and he sort of introduced me to this world of awakening.I thought he was mad, and seriously, i thought that he was possesed lol. now of course i feel different and have the knowledge as he has.I want my children to be awake too ,but it is really hard .
Once awake , there is a whole new world opening , and its like returning to school and being rescolard but this time with thruth and chocking knowledge. It is not easy when you realise that you have been lied to all your life, and maybe thats why my daughter is scared too.She might even feel secure in the "normal" sleeping world.

Do you know what part of the UK you will be moving to? The reason I ask is that tolerance for outsiders of any kind varies a lot from place to place. I don't mean that you're Swedish, I meant more that some places have a more chilled out mentality, and a pace of life more suited to free thinkers.

All the best.

[mariag]

Do you know what part of the UK you will be moving to? The reason I ask is that tolerance for outsiders of any kind varies a lot from place to place. I don't mean that you're Swedish, I meant more that some places have a more chilled out mentality, and a pace of life more suited to free thinkers.

All the best.
I would love to live somewhere close to mountains and maybe in the countryside, northen uk .The place I live in now is definately a cold place and filled with negativity.

[bennett211085]

I live in north yorkshire, ands it great here, most people are fairly friendly. As for your daughter I wouldn't pressure her with the whole thing all at once, but just drop hints now and again when things arn't right.
I've got the same problem with my family, but I wouldn't dare just go and tell them exactly what I think all at once.
Even when I just express my opinions on the war on terrorism or the global warming scam they find it hard to believe.
My step-dad has always said from the begining though that global warming is a scam to raise taxes. Some people can except at least some of the ideas, but the conspiracy as a whole I think is something that someone has to want to find out on their own or not at all.

[mariag]

I live in north yorkshire, ands it great here, most people are fairly friendly. As for your daughter I wouldn't pressure her with the whole thing all at once, but just drop hints now and again when things arn't right.
I've got the same problem with my family, but I wouldn't dare just go and tell them exactly what I think all at once.
Even when I just express my opinions on the war on terrorism or the global warming scam they find it hard to believe.
My step-dad has always said from the begining though that global warming is a scam to raise taxes. Some people can except at least some of the ideas, but the conspiracy as a whole I think is something that someone has to want to find out on their own or not at all.
yes I see your point.
There are things that she does agree with , such as that she is not religious, she has not bought the religioun agenda,i think that this is good , cause it proves that she has a mind of her own.
So you recomend yorkshire ?

[bennett211085]

North Yorkshire, or West Yorkshire. I'm not that keen on South Yorkshire.
I live on the north east coast and its a nice place to live.
Been here 5 years now, I originally lived in northampton which is near london.

:D

[mariag]

as long as it is close to nature is good:p

[adimon]

I live in north yorkshire, ands it great here, most people are fairly friendly. As for your daughter I wouldn't pressure her with the whole thing all at once, but just drop hints now and again when things arn't right.
I've got the same problem with my family, but I wouldn't dare just go and tell them exactly what I think all at once.
Even when I just express my opinions on the war on terrorism or the global warming scam they find it hard to believe.
My step-dad has always said from the begining though that global warming is a scam to raise taxes. Some people can except at least some of the ideas, but the conspiracy as a whole I think is something that someone has to want to find out on their own or not at all.

I can definitely agree with Bennett here. Yorkshire people are among the friendlist you'll find anywhere. The countryside is very good too. And the Yorkshire Moors and the Lake District are both quite close.

Do you live near Scarborough then, bennett?

[raffles]

Greetings to all of you !
I have a little minor dilemma with my teenage daughter .She thinks my awakening is all nonsense , and keep on ignoring all the facts I am telling her about disney and music and sublimial messages etc. She thinks this is all humbug.I am very concerned that she might be in trouble,like in some sort of possesed state of mind.I know this sounds utterly strange, but this is how i Feel, and after studdying all of this illuminati , i am aware that mind controll exist .
Please , if you have any advice in how to open her eyes , and help me to help her to stop watching these shows and all of the other stuff that she does.

I wouldnt say she was possesed, i know how difficult teenage girls are at that age, they have far more important things going on in their lives, or so they think.
Just give her a nudge here and there, i told her about aspertame and that worked for me, she even told her friends about it.

[raffles]

Btw i live in west yorkshire, its a dump, north yorkshire is nice id move there !!

[lilly555]

yes I see your point.
There are things that she does agree with , such as that she is not religious, she has not bought the religioun agenda,i think that this is good , cause it proves that she has a mind of her own.
So you recomend yorkshire ?

So religion that's a start. Politics might be easy. I'm sure that there are some laws that she doesn't like. How about showing her how the laws were made to make the people subserviant to the government.

[mariag]

So religion that's a start. Politics might be easy. I'm sure that there are some laws that she doesn't like. How about showing her how the laws were made to make the people subserviant to the government.
could work , we could study the laws together and from that point start a dialouge. Its a good start :)

[lilly555]

In general I don't really care about waking people up that much. If I had children though, it would most likely pain me dearly to see them get lost in all of this stuff.

[mariag]

In general I don't really care about waking people up that much. If I had children though, it would most likely pain me dearly to see them get lost in all of this stuff.
exactly,I do not want them to be lost

[lilly555]

As for your daughter I wouldn't pressure her, but just drop hints now and again when things arn't right.


I think that this is good advice. It's like subtly planting the seeds of thought in her mind when she is able to see that things are messed up.

[father_pyramid]

Commander Lock: Not everyone believes what you do Morpheus.
Morpheus: My beliefs do not require them to.

[lifeofbrian]

Commander Lock: Not everyone believes what you do Morpheus.
Morpheus: My beliefs do not require them to.

Brilliant.

It's only all too common to allow the self-absorbed ego to fall for the power trip to attempt to exercise mind control on others. Intention has little or nothing to do with it; if people behave like the doorknocking brainwashed cultists itching to 'free your mind' and 'join them in love and harmony' or 'receive the good message', they are in effect wannabe mind controllers themselves.

If someone is not OK with disagreement and has to have their own way with someone else's enquiring mind, freedom of choice, and peace of mind, it's not the latter mind that needs 'freeing', it's the former.

[mariag]

to be aware of and to incourage a person ,to use His or Hers own free will .just because i have ideas and thoughts that i believe is the truth ,doesnt meen that it is the same with others.And it is not right to force someone to think the way i do.That is also a sort of mind control.And teenagers in perticular are very acceptable to influences of others.That is why i am concerned and want to make my daughter understand the importance of her own free will.not to fall for the pressure of groups .

[i am all i am]

I LOVE YOU.

G'day Mariag.

A good book to introduce your daughter to is 'The Celestine Prophecy' by James Redfield. It will give her an understanding of the interaction of energy dynamics and how people compete for energy. By understanding the four control dramas that people use to compete for energy, she will be able to see who is attempting to compete with her for energy, and therefore, be able to free herself from being manipulated in this way.

It is available for free in pdf format here.....

http://www.earthbornerising.com/miscaudio/PDF/TheCelestineProphecy.pdf

THANK YOU.



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[lifeofbrian]

to be aware of and to incourage a person ,to use His or Hers own free will .just because i have ideas and thoughts that i believe is the truth ,doesnt meen that it is the same with others.And it is not right to force someone to think the way i do.That is also a sort of mind control.And teenagers in perticular are very acceptable to influences of others.That is why i am concerned and want to make my daughter understand the importance of her own free will.not to fall for the pressure of groups .

Hej Maria. Jag vet inte om du minns hur det var när du själv var tonåring, men i mitt fall uppskattade jag att bli lyssnad till och bli tillfrågad vad jag trodde och tyckte. Även om jag inte hade några färdigt formulerade svar i varje ögonblick så sa den attityden mig att jag hade rätten att komma fram till mina egna slutsatser. Något säger mig, såhär trettio år senare, att en dialog på den nivån kan vara mer tillåtande och förtroendeingivande än tillsägelser och konstanta förmaningar. Att ta upp vissa ämnen vid matbordet och börja med att erbjuda den egna synvinkeln och fråga tonåringen hur hon ser på saken, kanske. Det är typiskt att vara 'tvärtom' i tonåren bara för att markera självständighet, men själva handlingen, och den respekt det innebär att tillfråga och ta på allvar, går djupare. Man behöver inte komma till någon gemensam slutsats alla gånger, eftersom respekt för olikheter är kanske det tonåringar saknar mest, 'där ute'. Finns det hemma kan det betyda mer än man tror. Acceptans. Samtidigt, folk förändras med tiden; man tror inte det samma vid trettio som vid tjugo t ex. Lycka till, du grejar nog det där utan problem.

[montag]

Hej Maria. Jag vet inte om du minns hur det var när du själv var tonåring, men i mitt fall uppskattade jag att bli lyssnad till och bli tillfrågad vad jag trodde och tyckte. Även om jag inte hade några färdigt formulerade svar i varje ögonblick så sa den attityden mig att jag hade rätten att komma fram till mina egna slutsatser. Något säger mig, såhär trettio år senare, att en dialog på den nivån kan vara mer tillåtande och förtroendeingivande än tillsägelser och konstanta förmaningar. Att ta upp vissa ämnen vid matbordet och börja med att erbjuda den egna synvinkeln och fråga tonåringen hur hon ser på saken, kanske. Det är typiskt att vara 'tvärtom' i tonåren bara för att markera självständighet, men själva handlingen, och den respekt det innebär att tillfråga och ta på allvar, går djupare. Man behöver inte komma till någon gemensam slutsats alla gånger, eftersom respekt för olikheter är kanske det tonåringar saknar mest, 'där ute'. Finns det hemma kan det betyda mer än man tror. Acceptans. Samtidigt, folk förändras med tiden; man tror inte det samma vid trettio som vid tjugo t ex. Lycka till, du grejar nog det där utan problem.
Thats easy for you to say! :rolleyes:

[lifeofbrian]

Thats easy for you to say! :rolleyes:

Easier than it used to be :eek: funny language.

Want to add one more thing to maria - then going back to English, sorry:

Glömde säga det du säkert minns själv från tonåren, att kompisar egentligen bara är som ett slags stödsystem (stödhjul ha ha) medan man tränar sig i självständighet från föräldrarna. Senare när man blivit van vid frihet börjar man så småningom stå på egna ben och man frigör sig även från kompistryck. Jag tror det är helt naturligt och alltid har gått till på det viset. En fas i tonåren bestämmer inte hur ett helt liv kommer att bli. OK, det var allt jag ville dela med mig av. men du känner din dotter bäst och vet med dig hur hon funkar. Ha det gott.

[mariag]

Easier than it used to be :eek: funny language.

Want to add one more thing to maria - then going back to English, sorry:

Glömde säga det du säkert minns själv från tonåren, att kompisar egentligen bara är som ett slags stödsystem (stödhjul ha ha) medan man tränar sig i självständighet från föräldrarna. Senare när man blivit van vid frihet börjar man så småningom stå på egna ben och man frigör sig även från kompistryck. Jag tror det är helt naturligt och alltid har gått till på det viset. En fas i tonåren bestämmer inte hur ett helt liv kommer att bli. OK, det var allt jag ville dela med mig av. men du känner din dotter bäst och vet med dig hur hon funkar. Ha det gott.

hehe hej!
tack för att du talar svenska ,även om jag är duktig på engelska så är det ibland lättare på sitt eget språk.
Thank you for your advice, I am sure things will work out just fine.

[mariag]

Thats easy for you to say! :rolleyes:
lol sorry that we are talking in swedish . love to all

[montag]

lol sorry that we are talking in swedish . love to all
Tyvärr talar jag inte svenska, jag behöver hjälp. Ursäkta mig, var är toaletten?? :D

[mariag]

Tyvärr talar jag inte svenska, jag behöver hjälp. Ursäkta mig, var är toaletten?? :D
LOL LOL LOL
I´m afraid i cant show you where the wc´s are here lol

[stargazer]

Hi mariag :)

I think that you have nothing to worry about.:) Just teach her 'how to think-not what to think' and how important it is to ask question why. Thrust yourself and your daughter. Let go of the fear. She has to walk her own path and you are her guide.