Ron Paul: The CIA Runs Everything [Archive] - David Icke's Official Forums

protos

22-01-2010, 04:02 PM

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=9610

The CIA is Wall Streets finely honed tool for the neoliberal agenda of the banksters. A considerable proportion of the developed worlds prosperity rests on paying the lowest possible prices for the poor countries primary products and on exporting high-cost capital and finished goods to those countries. Continuation of this kind of prosperity requires continuation of the relative gap between developed and underdeveloped countries it means keeping poor people poor, former CIA agent Philip Agee wrote. Increasingly, the impoverished masses are understanding that the prosperity of the developed countries and of the privileged minorities in their own countries is founded on their poverty.

romas

22-01-2010, 04:09 PM

Well, duh.

Good link anyways ;)

anthony1965

22-01-2010, 06:31 PM

This is an incredible story. I'm surprised that there haven't been more comments.

Ron Paul is echoing JFK who called for the breaking up of the CIA, and who was murdered perhaps by the CIA themselves, including the Nazi's who who were merged with the OSS in WW2.

Eisenhower spoke of the military industrial complex. JFK spoke of secret societies. In both cases they were aware of the Nazi scientists, SS personnel, war criminals who had been taken in by the USA, but apparently took control from within.

These are the bravest words I've heard from Ron Paul. He accuses the CIA of running the American military and being drug runners.

http://rawstory.com/2010/01/ron-paul-cia/

US House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a "coup" against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be "taken out."

Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said:

There's been a coup, have you heard? It's the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They're the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. ... And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve. ... And yet think of the harm they have done since they were established [after] World War II. They are a government unto themselves. They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA.
Paul's comments, made last weekend, were met with a loud round of applause, but they didn't gather attention until bloggers noticed a clip of the event at YouTube.

Paul appeared to be referring to news reports that the CIA is deeply involved in air strikes against Al Qaeda targets in Afghanistan and Pakistan. A suicide bombing late last year against Forward Operating Base Chapman in Afghanistan took the lives of seven of CIA operatives, including two contracted from Blackwater. The event highlighted the CIA's deep involvement in the war effort.

Paul's reference to the CIA being "in the drug business" refers to long-running allegations that the CIA has funded some of its covert operations with proceeds from drug-running. That claim was most famously made in a 1996 investigative report from the San Jose Mercury-News, which alleged that cocaine from the Contra-Sandinista civil war in Nicaragua was making its way to the streets of L.A. via the CIA.

edible

22-01-2010, 06:45 PM

Thanks for that. Ron Paul is fantastic :D

umbrex

22-01-2010, 06:51 PM

Ofc they do.

Ever since JFK, the CIA has been covertly running the US government.

Lets have a look:

Nixon: The watergatergate scandal (in reality a coverup for for the jfk assassination and the bay of pigs (youll uncover the whole bay of pigs thing))

Gerald ford: Nixons puppet

Ronald Reagan: Only actor to become president of the US. Assassination attempt when he didn't live up to tptb's desires ...alternatively, so Bush Sr. could become president. (that speaks volumes)

Bush Sr. aka Beelzbub

Clinton: google mena + clinton ...it is flabbergasting that this individual could ever become president

Bush Jr. ..need i say more

Dick Cheney ...was sworn in when bush went under full narcosis at an operation (hmmm)

Obama ..well, the mulato who took over from bush ...more of the same ..zero change. Mossad agent as chiefs of staff

Srsly, check out this movie also:

JFK2 ...this is one of the most important pieces of the puzzle ..watch it!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=818267521031292324&ei=YfJZS66qLoWr-AbMs4z0CQ&q=jfk+2+bush+connection#

anthony1965

23-01-2010, 12:29 PM

Bump.

Please read. This is a massive accusation by Ron Paul.

icarus

23-01-2010, 01:50 PM

revealerofsecrets

23-01-2010, 02:45 PM

does he mention zionists

if not, disinfo

jfk also tried to block israel getting the bomb. they got it just after he was killed

fucking coincidence as usual

he also tried to take on the federl reserve, and the CIA

Obama take note, should barry actually be the genuine article. if he takes on the banks, he'll lose his head as well

JFK also started United states bank to compete with Federal reserve . The treasury Printed the currency in 1963 Now considered the most sought after rare bills by collectors. as soon as he was assasinated the bills stopped being printed in 1964. coincidence I think not. Motive for murder absolutely.

bowtiedaddy

23-01-2010, 02:50 PM

Obama take note, should barry actually be the genuine article. if he takes on the banks, he'll lose his head as well

I don't know... he DOES have the nuclear football. Obama just seems like he enjoys being a tyrant. He doesn't look like he's got any conflict whatsoever with mass murder and slavery.

umbrex

23-01-2010, 03:39 PM

u guys srsly need to watch the movie i posted abovwe :)

jhado

23-01-2010, 05:34 PM

u guys srsly need to watch the movie i posted abovwe :)

Just watched it, thanks, good stuff...on a scale from one to ten, I'd give it a wow! :)

It made me say, fuck, a lot...

tinyint

23-01-2010, 05:39 PM

kappy0405

23-01-2010, 06:33 PM

does he mention zionists

if not, disinfo

I don't think Ron Paul hasn't mentioned Zionism specifically, but he is very much against our aid to Israel, Israel having nukes, Israel oppressing the Palestinians, and Israel lobbying Congress.

Paul is opposed to everything JFK was opposed to, but Paul also mentions Rockefeller n Co' by name as well as their agenda for World Government. He's everything JFK was and more; the only problem is that he's never been in a position to do too much.

tinyint

23-01-2010, 06:37 PM

I don't think Ron Paul hasn't mentioned Zionism specifically, but he is very much against our aid to Israel, Israel having nukes, Israel oppressing the Palestinians, and Israel lobbying Congress.

Paul is opposed to everything JFK was opposed to, but Paul also mentions Rockefeller n Co' by name as well as their agenda for World Government. He's everything JFK was and more; the only problem is that he's never been in a position to do too much.

It is again like what has been first first, egg or hen?
Isn't it? :D:p

zetetic0void

23-01-2010, 06:46 PM

Very interesting to hear Ron Paul say out loud that the CIA is involved in drug supply.

Ronald Reagan: Only actor to become president of the US. Assassination attempt when he didn't live up to tptb's desires ...alternatively, so Bush Sr. could become president. (that speaks volumes)

I am suspicious of this as John Hinckley Jr. who shot Reagn had a brother Scott who was going to meet with Neil Bush (George H.W. Bush's son and "W"'s brother) around the time of this occurance. The Hinckley family also gave big contributions to George H.W. Bush snr's run for Republican nomination against Reagan.... I don;'t know how Bush became Reagan's vice President after that.

But the Bush-Hinckley connections just seem to suspicious

speaking of CIA George H.W Bush was director for a time in the 1970's. Here's a guy who's been within power since the 60's (CIA director, VP to Reagan then President himself and then father of President ... not to mention he's always seen in relation to Bill Clinton for a while - so the obvious question is how connected was he to Clinton in Clinton's presidency). Here's a guy who's been within the levels of power for something like 4 decades! (apparent power or at least smaller-scale control level below any higher-ups we never hear about)

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Given the fact that Ron Paul is vocal about this, I worry about what could happen to him ... but also the controlling threats of the 'Powerful' are even more controlling when aimed against people's family (talk, and "an accident" happens to your relative).

umbrex

23-01-2010, 06:54 PM

Very interesting to hear Ron Paul say out loud that the CIA is involved in drug supply.

then it would seem that you are not very familiar with ron paul :)

He's the only one in the congress with enough brass to tell it like it is ...and that is why he is one of the, if not the longest running congressman (or uis it senate?)

check out some of the vids where he grills bernanke or other 0-wizards

if he is full of shit, and this really is a vatican conspiracy, then i read somewhere that he, amongst others like jerff rense, are tempral coadjuators (vativan bandits)

Rense is for sure anti-zionist ..but then again, who familiar with the real state of things is not?!

umbrex

23-01-2010, 06:55 PM

Very interesting to hear Ron Paul say out loud that the CIA is involved in drug supply.

I am suspicious of this as John Hinckley Jr. who shot Reagn had a brother Scott who was going to meet with Neil Bush (George H.W. Bush's son and "W"'s brother) around the time of this occurance. The Hinckley family also gave big contributions to George H.W. Bush snr's run for Republican nomination against Reagan.... I don;'t know how Bush became Reagan's vice President after that.

But the Bush-Hinckley connections just seem to suspicious

speaking of CIA George H.W Bush was director for a time in the 1970's. Here's a guy who's been within power since the 60's (CIA director, VP to Reagan then President himself and then father of President ... not to mention he's always seen in relation to Bill Clinton for a while - so the obvious question is how connected was he to Clinton in Clinton's presidency). Here's a guy who's been within the levels of power for something like 4 decades! (apparent power or at least smaller-scale control level below any higher-ups we never hear about)

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Given the fact that Ron Paul is vocal about this, I worry about what could happen to him ... but also the controlling threats of the 'Powerful' are even more controlling when aimed against people's family (talk, and "an accident" happens to your relative).

srsly dude ..go to page 1 of this post and watch the movie i posted ..you'll get the full story of the bush involvement.

nightwriterk

23-01-2010, 07:05 PM

Chavez in Venezuela has been saying similar things...

We all know it, but to hear it said out loud is another thing! You know, it reminds you of that quote from Orwell...

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

zetetic0void

23-01-2010, 07:10 PM

then it would seem that you are not very familiar with ron paul

Well I just specifically meant I had never heard him say specifically what I posted. I haven't listened to anything from him in a while and this is the first time I've heard him say exactly that.

I've looked at a bunch of Ron Paul videos in the past and read his paper "End of Dollar Hegemony" -which you can google - (which points to the monopoly of US dollars being used as the currency of choice by oil producing nations as the main thing that props up the value of the US dollar and hence the US economy ... so countries like Iraq which switched to Euros in 2000 and Venezuala which thought about doing so and Iran which has started some Euro oil trading have been demonized partially because of this fact. SO in a way a lot of it isn't about actual access to oil but securing that US dollars are used for selling oil! The US dollar is not backed up by anything except this oil sales usage... and that is apparently backed up by force if that is threatened).

bobfitz2012

23-01-2010, 11:24 PM

What does CIA stand for?
Cocaine Importing Agency
Christians In Action

Hmm...

Here are clips from:

Congressman Ron Paul in 1988:
Ron Paul on CIA Drug Trafficking - YouTube

Congresswoman Maxine Waters in 1998:
Rep. Maxine Waters on CIA Drug Trafficking Part 1 of 4 - YouTube

LA Times in Gary Webb's Dark Alliance Series:
http://articles.latimes.com/2006/aug/18/opinion/oe-schou18

LA confronts CIA Director John Deutch on drug dealing:
THE CIA DRUG DEALERS BUSTED, FINALLY. Michael Ruppert - YouTube

And so it goes...

urbanmonk

24-01-2010, 02:09 AM

u guys srsly need to watch the movie i posted abovwe :)

I just got done with it pretty much frankly jives with the Bush's being Nazi's whispers that have followed them through the years.

Oh and loved the fact that it ends on Bush Jnr being the one behind Kennedy Jnr's death.

I recall the look on Bush Jnr's face when he was being booed at Obama's inauguration and I swear it was not shame or embarrassment that he seemed to have but more of a look of pity.

A look of pity to all those booing as little did they realise change as they saw it was not coming but just a continuation of the Bush's control over the USA.

The first time ever in all the time since he came into the limelight that I can say there was some sort of emotional connection I got from him.

Cold shower was needed afterwards.:o

As for Ron Paul the fella is getting on in life and it seems clear he was turned down whatever the powers above might have offered him to reign it in a bit for the sake of his family if not himself.

I just feel the MSM will ignore this chap as usual and his impact as such will be lost on most folks.

motleyhoo

24-01-2010, 04:15 AM

The difference between JFK saying these things and RP saying these things is that back in JFK's days we actually still had investigative journalism within the MSM. Today, the criminals and govt outlaws are protected by the media who actually come out now and ridicule people like RP. He can stand up and say these things because the CIA knows he is not a threat in today's mass marketed newstainment.

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hadabusa

24-01-2010, 06:12 AM

hm.
who runs america?

cia,obama(jk), capitalists, gop, liberals, lobbyists, media, corporations or perhaps the jewish mob?

ron paul is definitelly a bs artist.

this was the last straw4me.

kappy0405

24-01-2010, 06:39 AM

ron paul is definitelly a bs artist.

this was the last straw4me.

Don't be silly. It seems like you're looking for reasons to dislike him now. Ron Paul did interviews in the 80s/90s where he stated that Rockefeller n' Co, the big international banks & corporations, run America, & that the 'coup' started with the Federal Reserve. The CIA is just an extension of this power structure.

Is this really that different than what the anti-NWO movement goes on about?

hadabusa

24-01-2010, 06:50 AM

Don't be silly. It seems like you're looking for reasons to dislike him now. Ron Paul did interviews in the 80s/90s where he stated that Rockefeller n' Co, the big international banks & corporations, run America, & that the 'coup' started with the Federal Reserve. The CIA is just an extension of this power structure.

Is this really that different than what the anti-NWO movement goes on about?

hm, okok, fair enough, he actually calls out the fed.

if he said it like you just did,itdve been perfect.

im still thinking hed be the best potus,after nader off course:D

i find the whole usa govt form outdated(roman blueprint)and innefective from ppl pov.

there shouldnt be a president at all.

the swiss model is without a doubt the best(world threathened swiss with invasion if its implemented, so it must be good):D

kappy0405

24-01-2010, 07:03 AM

i find the whole usa govt form outdated(roman blueprint)and innefective from ppl pov.

there shouldnt be a president at all.

the swiss model is without a doubt the best(world threathened swiss with invasion if its implemented, so it must be good):D

I definitely agree with you on that one.. Ron Pauls obsession with the 'Republic' form of government is the only drawback.. I don't prefer Capitalism either, but I do think reforming it is better than what we have now.

hadabusa

24-01-2010, 07:14 AM

I definitely agree with you on that one.. Ron Pauls obsession with the 'Republic' form of government is the only drawback.. I don't prefer Capitalism either, but I do think reforming it is better than what we have now.

hes almost an anarchist-capitalist by ideology(i say almost).

look up what chomsky thinks about that, i was pretty shocked:eek:

its a bit sad to see him being in favor of centralized govt(but not banking).

i really dont wanna make him look bad,i mean hed decriminalise coke:cool:

but he has flaws,i find it fair2point them out.

kappy0405

24-01-2010, 07:21 AM

Here's Part 1 of an interview he gave in 1988 in which he talks a little bit about the Fed and the Rockefeller influence:

Ron Paul - American Power Structure : 1988 part 1 - YouTube

There are 5 parts, you can watch the others on youtube..

Here's a key quote (paraphrased) by Ron Paul in the first part:

"The power structure is basically made up of a lot of very powerful business and corporate leaders... they have formed their organizations.. the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, & no matter which President or which Party is in power, they will appoint to major offices members of these two committees, and they always have control over the Federal Reserve system..

..If only we would've followed the advice of our founders, and not allowed this power structure of elitist bankers & industrialists to get control not only of the banking system & monetary system, but really control of our foreign policy and government..

..I don't think the members of Congress really know how little effect they have in controlling things... The Congress doesn't have much control, the people don't have much say either. The control over policy is really in the hands of a small # of people who control all the administrations, all the appointments to the cabinet, & certainly the appointments to the Federal Reserve."

This man is a hero. :D

kappy0405

24-01-2010, 07:24 AM

hes almost an anarchist-capitalist by ideology(i say almost).

look up what chomsky thinks about that, i was pretty shocked:eek:

I haven't actually read Chomsky in years, but I imagine his views on anarcho-Capitalism are pretty negative. :p

its a bit sad to see him being in favor of centralized govt(but not banking).

i really dont wanna make him look bad,i mean hed decriminalise coke:cool:

but he has flaws,i find it fair2point them out.

it's definitely fair.. as I said, I don't agree with merely being a 'Republic' or free market Capitalism either.. but the truth is, a very good portion of people opposing the NWO are on the right side of the spectrum. I'm much more interested in opposing totalitarianism right now than I am opposing rightwing philosophy.. His good points out weigh the negative imo..

hadabusa

24-01-2010, 07:35 AM

I haven't actually read Chomsky in years, but I imagine his views on anarcho-Capitalism are pretty negative. :p

it's definitely fair.. as I said, I don't agree with merely being a 'Republic' or free market Capitalism either.. but the truth is, a very good portion of people opposing the NWO are on the right side of the spectrum. I'm much more interested in opposing totalitarianism right now than I am opposing rightwing philosophy.. His good points out weigh the negative imo..
ha,ive seen these80s videos before,i was saddened to see him doing this43decades wo americans taking notice(until recently).

yes, chomsky says its the most dangerous form of "govt" ever.

yes, hes a step in the right(pun!) direction
:D

kappy0405

24-01-2010, 08:06 AM

yes, chomsky says its the most dangerous form of "govt" ever.

wow.. I would have to disagree with him on that one..

I mean, it obviously has its downside. Corporations can do whatever the hell they want, and that puts a whole lot of responsibility on the public. We would literally have to collectively boycott any business that gets out of line. Could we keep them in check by ourselves? Who knows.. It would be tough..

But as long as the people keep the government itself Democratic, or loyal to a Constitution, the positive is that the leaders of these corporations wouldn't have the ability to influence the policy we live by, meaning they couldn't directly influence our lives no matter how hard they tried. They would be answering to us, not the other way around.. Again, the downside is that this requires a huge collective responsibility by the public. So it IS dangerous, but nowhere near the most dangerous. I think that is an extremely biased statement on his part..

I would consider an authoritarian regime with complete ownership over production and policy to be much more dangerous. The only way for the population to keep that system in check is a full scale revolution, which is near impossible nowadays considering the amount of weapons technology governments have access to.

motleyhoo

25-01-2010, 06:03 AM

I would consider an authoritarian regime with complete ownership over production and policy to be much more dangerous. The only way for the population to keep that system in check is a full scale revolution, which is near impossible nowadays considering the amount of weapons technology governments have access to.

Absolutely correct, and that is exactly where we are headed. 40,000 new laws written last year, most of them restricting freedom in one form or another. Same thing will happen this year, and the next, and the next, and the next...until we have no freedom, not even enough to fight back.

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jesuitsdidit

25-01-2010, 09:22 PM

Eisenhower spoke of the military industrial complex. JFK spoke of secret societies. In both cases they were aware of the Nazi scientists, SS personnel, war criminals who had been taken in by the USA, but apparently took control from within.

some say Eisenhower was poisoned..

tinyint

25-01-2010, 09:46 PM

some say Eisenhower was poisoned..

It is claimed he spoke originally of the military-industrial-congressional complex ;)
Anthony made the point, but this goes so deep... to say at least.

orage

25-01-2010, 09:49 PM

some say Eisenhower was poisoned..

Some say Truman & Eisenhower were too limited to have a clue what was going on. Eisenhower sure was promoted rapidly, from never having an active command to Supreme Allied Commander in Europe and then to General of the Army (equivalent to the rank of Field Marshal in most European armies). Maybe he bought a clue late in life after being a company man for so long?

jesuitsdidit

25-01-2010, 09:56 PM

some say Eisenhower was poisoned..

sorry i meant FDR
not Eisenhower, :o

subl1minal

26-01-2010, 12:57 AM

Looks like he gave the Federal Reserve a good roasting on the news today aswell. Quite awesome to see this kind of information hitting the mainstream.

1/25/10 Ron Paul on CNBC's Squawk Box: Debate on Bernanke, the Fed, and Stimulus - YouTube

kappy0405

26-01-2010, 03:51 AM

Looks like he gave the Federal Reserve a good roasting on the news today aswell. Quite awesome to see this kind of information hitting the mainstream.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX06TnsKnEI

that was a good 15 minute interview.. he made that guy look like an idiot.

ritchs

26-01-2010, 04:21 AM

I want to love Ron Paul

He says all the right things, and of course that strikes a chord with all of us who want to see a return to sane government, the way it should be.

But these "guys" are pros. They have been laughing at us for a long time, only recently, they don't even bother to conceal their contempt.

The natural tendency for most people will be to turn away from the two Dumbo/Jackass parties to a third one. Someone free of all the crookedness.

Could this be another scam? Ron Paul being the Pied Piper leading us down the garden path with the other two parties laughing and snickering from the wings?

Just remember how many generations fell for the good cop/bad cop game played by the republicans and democrats when they were always really working together.

Any comments?

kappy0405

26-01-2010, 05:17 AM

..The natural tendency for most people will be to turn away from the two Dumbo/Jackass parties to a third one. Someone free of all the crookedness.

Could this be another scam? Ron Paul being the Pied Piper leading us down the garden path with the other two parties laughing and snickering from the wings?...

I really doubt it.. Popular dissent from the two main parties is a relatively new thing, but Ron Paul has been showing dissent from both parties for over two decades. Even today, most right wingers would rather listen to Glenn Beck than Ron Paul.. And although the MSM allows him on the air every now and then, they constantly mock him for the most part..

The next Republican candidate will be seen as a 'savior of the republic', much like Obama was seen as a savior.. but it most likely will not be Ron Paul.

measle_weasel

26-01-2010, 05:38 AM