If the NWO control English TV ( I.E BBC)

[guyblokeman]

Why would they allow programs like Heroes, which to me is hinting quite clearly at our true nature?

Surely they just would not allow anything that would get us thinking like that?

Thoughts please?

thanks!

[serpentoffire]

Why would they allow programs like Heroes, which to me is hinting quite clearly at our true nature?

Surely they just would not allow anything that would get us thinking like that?

Thoughts please?

thanks!

The main problem of kundalini that its existence is linked to an 'ibrid' DNA inside a few persons between thousand of normal people. Nobody knows how many persons in the world are awakened and some organization like governments, freemasons and some churches are trying to map and control this special kind of population.

Hollywood is a powerful tool used to send occult messages inside their movies to stimulate the awakening. One important way is the pornography, because sex stimulation is propaedeutic for kundalini.

Another way is to create a story with some metaphors embedded to awake the watcher gradually. People with 'the gifts' are able to store and recognize unconsciously these messages and start to search the truth. The second step is to leave bricks of information in the cyber world or in the real world, sometime distorted, to address this people in the wrong direction (satanism, freemasonry, scientology, ...).

[serpentoffire]

Please, see this thread about movies symbolisms:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9938

[guyblokeman]

Im sorry if im being stupid but I still fail to see how the NWO would allow this.

If their plan is to keep us asleep, why do they embed messages of awakening into their programs?

thank you:)

[serpentoffire]

Im sorry if im being stupid but I still fail to see how the NWO would allow this.

If their plan is to keep us asleep, why do they embed messages of awakening into their programs?

thank you:)

They wakeup only gifted people through media using subliminal messages. Once the awakening take place you are alone and don't know who you are exactly and why you have some bizarre effects inside your body.

You are vulnerable and start to search a response reading books, searching on the net, contact people on blackmails. All exactly I've done.

Now they use your state of vulnerability to join you inside a new age or religion movements, to bring you to your new boss: Lucifer, the Great Architect of Universe (worshiped by freemasonry).

I hope now its more clear.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/graphics/baphomet%281%29.bmp

[guyblokeman]

But surely "Awakening" by definition, means you know not to trust literally anything your told as fact..

I would have thought that Religion and New Age philosophies would only be needed by the "Unawakened."

I still fail to see how slowly awakening us serves any purpose to the NWO:confused:

I think my point then is maybe we are giving more credit to the intellect of the NWO than they actually deserve?

[kblood]

I do not think the NWO are in full control. Maybe it would simply take too many ressources for them to block the show heroes. The thing is that TV is there to show us (the consumers) what we want to see, and spiritual awakening is becomming more and more popular (I guess why ;) ). There are comming more and more shows about magic, mental powers and so on, and I think it is too much for the NWO to stop fully. Who knows, maybe there are others shows they have stopped, that are much closer to the truth?

I cannot wait to see season 2 of Heroes :) I fear it might not be as good as first season though.

[serpentoffire]

But surely "Awakening" by definition, means you know not to trust literally anything your told as fact..

I would have thought that Religion and New Age philosophies would only be needed by the "Unawakened."

I still fail to see how slowly awakening us serves any purpose to the NWO:confused:

I think my point then is maybe we are giving more credit to the intellect of the NWO than they actually deserve?


You are confusing these two concepts:

awakening from consensus reality -> you disconnect your brain from hypnotic world put in front of your eyes to hide the truth: you are a slave (sorry I didn't resist to cite Morpheus :D).
kundalini awakening -> it is the opening of chakras and the rising of coiled serpent around your spine. To do this you have to be empowered by a modified DNA.:cool:To know more about kundalini awakening please see this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8101989694941061600

[cheesedanish]

Why would they allow programs like Heroes, which to me is hinting quite clearly at our true nature?

Surely they just would not allow anything that would get us thinking like that?

Thoughts please?

thanks!

Our true nature ? like Heroes? being invisible or being able to fly ?...
I believe in infinite consciousness but dont believe we can fly?
I dont believe they are portraying us at all?

they know it's work of fiction or am i missing something ... I've only
seen the 1st series.

All the tv shows do is distract and keep us focused off real issues.

Lets discuss what happend in Heroes instead of the real news of the
world.

Then again you can ask why the NWO has cellphone towers / or masts
when they themselves can be affected by the radiation?
Or aren't they affected ? :rolleyes:

[raffles]

Ive never seen this heros tv show, does it show people having kundalini experiences?

[guyblokeman]

Serpent - But arnt both those type of Awakenings good for the person? ( Thanks for the link:))


Cheesedanish - I think its a more a metaphor for who we are, or who we could be. Plus if you believe the reports of some Falun Gong practioners, those powers can be very real.

Raffles - Its about a mutated gene in certain people which gives them special powers. The evolution of consciouss, which is what humans are all about imo.

[cheesedanish]

Well there is a saying 'hidden in the open' - maybe we don't 'see' the obvious - I guess something must click - but unless you are aware -
you wont see it? Like looking for the explosions when the Towers
collapsed - unless it's pointed out you dont see it? You know what
I mean?

[serpentoffire]

Serpent - But arnt both those type of Awakenings good for the person? ( Thanks for the link:))


If you are a normal person you have to disconnect from consensus reality to have the possibility to think with your brain. Burn religions, new age and ideologisms and start to use your good sense. They use NLP (Neural Language Programming) through media to use you like a robot and trap your mind in a hypnotic world.

If you are a 'gifted' person use your intuition, telepathy and clairvoyance to search the truth. They are scared by person like me, because they know that I have the ability to find easily what it's wrong bypassing the problem before than it will happen.

Normal people and gifted people can work together to fight against NWO and all its manifestations (new age, religions, governments, parties).

This forum is a good start.

GOD is with us. GOD is hacking the system.

[serpentoffire]

Ive never seen this heros tv show, does it show people having kundalini experiences?

I didn't see this series but probably you'll find something related to kundalini.

If Kundalini energy is strong enough, it gives the following physical ability:
Clairvoyance: The ability to see the past, the present and future without limits of time or space.
Telepathy: The ability to see aura and read mind.
Telekinesis: The ability to move or bend objects with the mind
Pyrokinesis: The ability to set things on fire with the mind
Cryokinesis: The ability to control over ice and sub-zero temperatures
Electrokinesis: The ability to control objects that run on electricity
Levitation: The ability to levitate the body or other objects into the air.
Shape-shifting: The ability to switch the physical body to reptilian body partially or totally
Vampirism: The ability to absorb energy from other entities, from sun and earth vortex
Bilocation: The ability to stay in several far places in the same time.All these powers are directly connected to Zero Point Energy and Quantistic effects in our space-time:
Pyrokinesis, cryokinesis and electrokinesis are ruled by the same quantistic laws of semiconductors.
Telekinesis, levitation and shape-shifting are ruled by the ability to change the vortex frequency of each particle of a physical body.
Clairvoyance and bilocation are ruled by the ability to change the time-space as happen to Phase Conjugate Waves.
Telepathy and vampirism are related to the intrinsic ability of our soul (the serpent fire) to interact with other souls or sources of energy.Kundalini gives also the ability to regenerate its own body and to be less exposed to disease. If chakras are unbalanced, body could suffer instead of some diseases, depending the chakra interested.

[kblood]

Nice :) I have been thinking about making a thread about what kinds of psychic abilities have been tried by our forum users.

These are the abilities I have not tried yet:

Pyrokinesis - I have been able to control fire, but not make it.

Cryokinesis - Hmmm... havent even thought about it.

Levitation - Yup... maybe even flying, but I have begun suspecting that UFO tractor beams might have helped me. Alot of the flying or leviation did not feel like it was my doing.

Shape-shifting - Maybe once, but I think I only felt shapeshifted. I have seen on shapeshift myself, and have made others believe that I was something that I am not. To see their reaction :) I have seen someone shapeshift in front of me though. First being an old woman, then shapeshifting into a young woman I know. I had a friend take a picture to be sure it was not just an illusion. I think the young woman thought it a dream while she was sleeping, but I am not sure if she remembers it at all.

Bilocation - Hmmm... 2 places at most and they were both very close. Then again, might have been OBEing and talked with others in the OBE state. Do not know why I would do this to several far away locations yet.

The last abilities I have used several times. Well vampirism I only used once on a living being (I hope :(), but usually I use it on energy conservers, like batteries of some kind. I know a guy who sometimes charged himself with lightnings :) He seemed very similar to Thor, the god of thunder. Even had a hammer like Thors. He got rid of the hammer though. I still chat with him :)

Anyone else who would like to write about what they have tried?

[truthseeker1980]

We (everyone) is born with all those abilities, it's not just the chosen few that the NWO decide to wake up.

The so called education system is deliberately designed to supress our inner knowledge by making us use/learn with only one side of our brain which is not the creative/imaginative side. Even in art classes at school you are not encouraged to be creative but told what and how to draw/express yourself, because of this brainwashing we forget what we are born with.

Do you not remember before you started school? Everything seemed possible, your imagination had no limits, but after a few months at school being supressed and told that things you think you can do are impossible you start to accept, what they want us to believe which is we are just one person who can do nothing in the world apart from earn money, money for them to tax and money that doesn't exist.

From what i can gather the reason the NWO is being more blatant with symbolism, magic powers, movies with chitahuru looking exactly as they do, information being leaked in movies/Tv programmes and on the internet is to make it easier for them as we approach 2012. Because if project blue beam is to be played out the brain washed closed mind population are not going to believe the story being played out in the sky unless little subliminal snippets and blatant symbolism is slowly introduced into the mainstream. If they want a one world religion or to stage a fake alien landing then they need to slightly awaken everyone or they wouldn't be able to control anyone.

Credu Mutwa talks about a very similar process which happened in africa in the years before collonisation of the white man happened. Tribes were visited by white beings with cross symbolism, fish symbolism, even the all seeing eye, so when the so called christian mercenries came hundreds of years after they could identify with the symbols of the religion thus making it easier to control them. Any shaman who refused to accept it were killed and thousands of tribes were wiped out.

So the NWO need to let some info out just so we can beleive what they want us to believe in the coming years, just remember though that alot will be disinfo.

[serpentoffire]

Nice :) I have been thinking about making a thread about what kinds of psychic abilities have been tried by our forum users.

These are the abilities I have not tried yet:

Pyrokinesis - I have been able to control fire, but not make it.

Cryokinesis - Hmmm... havent even thought about it.

Levitation - Yup... maybe even flying, but I have begun suspecting that UFO tractor beams might have helped me. Alot of the flying or leviation did not feel like it was my doing.

Shape-shifting - Maybe once, but I think I only felt shapeshifted. I have seen on shapeshift myself, and have made others believe that I was something that I am not. To see their reaction :) I have seen someone shapeshift in front of me though. First being an old woman, then shapeshifting into a young woman I know. I had a friend take a picture to be sure it was not just an illusion. I think the young woman thought it a dream while she was sleeping, but I am not sure if she remembers it at all.

Bilocation - Hmmm... 2 places at most and they were both very close. Then again, might have been OBEing and talked with others in the OBE state. Do not know why I would do this to several far away locations yet.

The last abilities I have used several times. Well vampirism I only used once on a living being (I hope :(), but usually I use it on energy conservers, like batteries of some kind. I know a guy who sometimes charged himself with lightnings :) He seemed very similar to Thor, the god of thunder. Even had a hammer like Thors. He got rid of the hammer though. I still chat with him :)

Anyone else who would like to write about what they have tried?

...but I try to give you some evidences:
Shape-shifting: see Icke's work
Energy vampires: http://www.oprah.com/health/omag/health_omag_200204_energy.jhtml
Levitation: Saints and levitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bilocation: http://www.ewtn.com/PadrePio/mystic/bilocation.htm
Pyrokinesis: see this photohttp://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/photo_occult_2.jpg

[mr jones]

i think Heroes is an exellent programme. its the bible of today

[adzboarder]

Guys they show us this stuff to keep us amused and our brains occupied on nonsense and off the conspiracy theories and free-thinking.

What the fuck do you think X-Factor, Big Brother and all that load of shite is for if not just to rot peoples brains?

Yes Heroes is a good example of future prophecies and so on but there are many, MANY others, 24 for example is conditioning to show you how big the terror threat is [not] and that torturing people is good. Spooks, more national security bollocks, Jericho, how to survive when they nuke the planet, Lost, how to survive being totally controlled and monitored, the list is endless...

[greenleaf]

Ive never seen this heros tv show, does it show people having kundalini experiences?

The Illuminati are pushin' it in our faces...

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/127/heores00ov3.jpg

This is taken from Heroes (charactor 'Hiro')

[adzboarder]

Thats great!

If I watch through the series again it would be cool to index all the symbology especially for heroes as it is a great TV show.

[guyblokeman]

Thanks for your thoughts people :)

Youve helped me see things clearer ;)

[raffles]

Guys they show us this stuff to keep us amused and our brains occupied on nonsense and off the conspiracy theories and free-thinking.

What the fuck do you think X-Factor, Big Brother and all that load of shite is for if not just to rot peoples brains?

Yes Heroes is a good example of future prophecies and so on but there are many, MANY others, 24 for example is conditioning to show you how big the terror threat is [not] and that torturing people is good. Spooks, more national security bollocks, Jericho, how to survive when they nuke the planet, Lost, how to survive being totally controlled and monitored, the list is endless...

Glad to see my decision to stop watching tv was a good one, by the sound of things :D

[hutanic]

kundalini awakening -> it is the opening of chakras and the rising of coiled serpent around your spine. To do this you have to be empowered by a modified DNA.

And who are those with this modified DNA and how does one gets it?

[serpentoffire]

And who are those with this modified DNA and how does one gets it?

There was a time when one of the Elohim created a human being whom he called Eve. That Elohim united himself with Eve and she gave birth to Cain. After this, another Elohim, named Yahveh, created Adam. Adam also united himself with Eve and from this union came Abel. Thus we see that Cain is a direct descendant of the gods, but Abel is a descendant of Adam and Eve who are human. The sacrifices which Abel made to Yahveh were pleasing to him, but the sacrifices brought by Cain did not please him because the birth of Cain was not ordained by him. The result was that Cain committed fratricide. He killed Abel and for this he was excluded from communion with Yahveh. He went away into distant lands and founded his own race there. We have two generations of mankind: the race of Cain, who was a descendant of Eve and one of the Elohim, and the other race which had human parentage and was brought into existence at the command of Yahveh. Among the descendants of Cain are those who have been creators of art and science, as, for instance, Methuselah [Methushael, Gen 4,18], the inventor of the Tau script, and Tubal-Cain, who taught the use of working of metal ores and iron. In this line of descent, stemming from the Elohim, were all those who trained themselves in the arts and sciences. Hiram also descended from the race of Cain, and he was the inheritor of all that had been learned by the others of his line in technology and art. He was the most significant architect we can imagine. Out of Seth’s line came Solomon, who excelled in everything which came from Yahveh. He was endowed with the wisdom of the world and all the attributes of calm, clear, objective wisdom. This wisdom can be expressed in words which go straight to the human heart and can uplift a person, but it is unable to produce anything tangible of a technical nature, in art or science. It is a wisdom which is a directly inspired gift of God and not attained from below through human passions welling up from the human will—that would be the wisdom pertaining to the sons of Cain, a legacy of the other Elohim, not Yahveh. They are the hardworking industrious ones who seek to accomplish everything through their own efforts. According with the story

Elohim has created Eve was Lucifer, the brightest angel of Yahveh
Elohim has created Adam was Yahveh.
normal people are son of Seth that it was son of Adam and Eve
gifted people are son of Cain that it was son of Lucifer and Eve
today two tribes are sharing the earth: people of second tribe are able if awakened to accept supernatural entities
For more info: Nephilim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


http://www.crystalinks.com/nephilim.jpg

[albie]

Im sorry if im being stupid but I still fail to see how the NWO would allow this.

If their plan is to keep us asleep, why do they embed messages of awakening into their programs?

thank you:)

Because it's all crap. The majority of people who are in the know only make bold movements to control us. Things like TV shows are small fry. They rely on the bigger acts to counter act the smaller ones.

Do you think Star Wars would ever be made in an Illumianti America?

How about Alf? Yeah, we all know what Alf was about.

http://www.epguides.de/alf.jpg

Tuh!:D

[guyblokeman]

Even Clearer :)

[hutanic]

Interesting view on it serpentoffire. thnx for sharing opinion on it. If it were so what percentage of population would be of Cain blood line?

[serpentoffire]

Interesting view on it serpentoffire. thnx for sharing opinion on it. If it were so what percentage of population would be of Cain blood line?

1/10.000 more or less. I'm able to find people like me and they are very few. Usually most of them don't suspect nothing.

[asentinel]

hey SOF, many times I have had people say mysteriously to me, "you don't know who you are, do you?"! It really got up my nose for a long time, and I guess I am just starting to understand. It is horrible when you think the joke is on you!.... waiting for the mothership.... left on wrong planet....

[serpentoffire]

hey SOF, many times I have had people say mysteriously to me, "you don't know who you are, do you?"! It really got up my nose for a long time, and I guess I am just starting to understand. It is horrible when you think the joke is on you!.... waiting for the mothership.... left on wrong planet....

OK, it is a joke. Please explain me why only few persons are 'gifted' with powers of telepaty, clairvoyance, psychokinesis, ...
I wait a congruent response from you, not philosophy.
Thank in advance

[hutanic]

OK, it is a joke. Please explain me why only few persons are 'gifted' with powers of telepaty, clairvoyance, psychokinesis, ...
I wait a congruent response from you, not philosophy.
Thank in advance

Serp why do u think "gifted" people are only ones entitled to this? I come from very ordenery family no any blood line or anything (at lest to my knowledge) and had experiences many wonderfull things in my life most of people aren't even aware exist. Only reason why i got them what i can see from my life is who i am as soul and how i lived my life (this and previous) not any blood line.

[serpentoffire]

Serp why do u think "gifted" people are only ones entitled to this? I come from very ordenery family no any blood line or anything (at lest to my knowledge) and had experiences many wonderfull things in my life most of people aren't even aware exist. Only reason why i got them what i can see from my life is who i am as soul and how i lived my life (this and previous) not any blood line.

Probably you had some ancestor in your family with these abilities. The 'Gifts' are inherited trough your DNA that you'll transmit to your children. Sometime this hereditary character jump a generation like in some DNA diseases. I suggest you to document about your ancestors with your parents.

[asentinel]

OK, it is a joke. Please explain me why only few persons are 'gifted' with powers of telepaty, clairvoyance, psychokinesis, ...
I wait a congruent response from you, not philosophy.
Thank in advance

NO< NO< NO> Sorry you misunderstood me, when one is trying to use humour in subtle ways sometimes it gets messed up or "lost in translation". I forget as your english is so much better than any second language of mine. I was laughing at myself for being so unaware in earlier times. I learned to ignore my better judgment as a peculiar survival skill required to survice my household! Actually since childhood I have been fascinated by pictures of the planets and cosmos. I was not a real child. I know my mind was the same as it is now, I had adult reasoning and thinking. I remember the first time we had religious instruction, I was trying not to laugh at this silly man. I knew he was being patronising even if I did not know the word I knew the concept. He was saying stuff which was obviously a fairy story and thinking I did not notice!!! In my mind I was adult. I just pretended to play the game as expected so I would not upset them. I knew who the pedofiles were in the school etc, I felt danger. Even if I didn't fully understand what could happen. I knew they were looking at me like an adult.

I knew my parents were lying to me, and I had to try to live a double life where I denied the information I was getting from myself, cos it was too painful to admit what I knew. They were weak and manipulative and dishonest. Their pride hated that I would remind them of their inconsistencies, "always had an answer", "had too good a memory"!

Actually I agree with you and, it was true, not a joke. I was just saying it feels like "the joke has been on me", the more I find out. People have said those things (don't know who you are etc.) and sometimes the ones who said it were ones with bad intentions and behaviours. One was a male "teacher" yoga instructor, who mesmerised his students and took advantage of them spiritually and sexually. My flatmate brought him home with her one night and he said after a couple of visits, "Your mind has compartments like a steel trap, I cannot get in there". I thought "good!!" Some time after there was an incident where I believe he tried to interfere.

I absolutely believe in the ancestry connection. I have encountered people in all areas of my life who fit the profile. Some are parasitic. I do not invite them in, and I certainly don't subscribe to the "love all etc." panacea. I see how they are curious of me, and can somehow target me, when they have ingratiated themselves a little. They can pretend to know something I am interested in, or pretend a skill that I have an interest in investigating. They try to entice people into their web.

My siblings are all smart people, good citizens, but unaware and are baffled by me a bit.

I believe my mother tried to have some hold on me, and even when I was at the other end of the earth, I would pick up the phone without it ringing and she would be there, notwithstanding the time difference. I went to a healer once and she said "I am being told to cut an octopus-like tentacle", first time ever for her, and she did so. Shortly after my mother became more severely afflicted with alzheimers and really lost connection with this world. I believe she had narcissistic/borderline/munchaussens personality disorder. A great combo eh!! There is more, I will not bore you with the details.

Thanks for listening. I do not take these things lightly because I have lived it. Only just....

Byeee

[serpentoffire]

NO< NO< NO> Sorry you misunderstood me...

I'm Italian and sometime I have some problem in translation especially with too deep concepts.

Reading your post I remembered about what it's happen during my infancy. I felt myself already adult and everybody was wondered about my capabilities to talk about very deep secret of life like space, God, evolution.

I ever had relational problems with other persons because most of them feel immediately that I'm different and they reject my presence without I did or said nothing. I didn't know why until one year ago. Thank to Davide Icke now I know why I'm different: because I can see directly in their souls and feel their thoughts. People can't say lie in my presence. But this is not only the reason of my 'diffecence': the difference is in my DNA, in my bloodline, in my origin, in my exceptional abilities.

Usually I talk only with persons having 10 or 20 years more than me. People of my generation are mentally too young for me.

I'm sad thinking about my solitude that I felt in all these years but you don't know how much I'm happy to have found in this forum and in other blackmails persons like you. Now I'm feeling less alone.

Thank to exist.

[asentinel]

SOF, I understand what you say. It has been a lonely, solitary journey! I don't do trivia, or trivial very convincingly either!!!!

I've done the rounds also, scientology, you will laugh, I hope, the ethics officer had to be sent for counselling and retraining after she failed to recruit me. Through good manners and polite questions I got her to say, we don't accept people on staff who have taken drugs. "Oh, why?" I asked, wide-eyed. "Because we cannot get in there!" "Oh, yes, that makes sense", I nodded politely! Bingo! She looked at me, quite horrified at what she had just revealed. The man who comes to harvest funds from the unsuspecting flock, had me cornered for an hour or so, and tried every trick known in this, or other universes I guess, as he is one of the most highly trained on the planet! He tried to get me to sign a cash advance on my credit card. I knew the game was up when he resorted to flattery, surely that must be the end of the line!! I gave him emotions, but he did not know, could not read, that I do not own a credit card!! When I donated some cash towards the cause of getting children off psychiatric drugs, I gave him a tear or two at that sad story, so he would release me from his grip, and he said, unspiritually, and uncharitably, "oh, chump change!" The staff people rang me and tried to infer I should congratulate myself for coming to their attention, which says they were really congratulating themselves! I said I will get back to you, (needed to go to the bathroom to throw up).

Do you know what unhinges some people the most. When you need nothing from them, not even their positive regard. When you are un-needy, they have nothing to bargain with, or control you with. They cannot get you, because if you practice not needing anything they offer, you are free of their clutches. You do not need their approval, you have your own, your own way, isn't that a dangerous individual indeed!!! No wonder the Illuminati want to own those tasty morsels, eat them for breakfast?

The russian healer said to me, I have to cut this huge cord/tentacle, "they have you, through your mother!" I was horrified! I had always been vulnerable to depression, for many reasons, not just the loneliness and misunderstood. I consider my mother to have been possessed and possibly her sister also. They had a horrendous experience with their father, violent, predator, from a very early age. He was most certainly a sociopath or worse (obviously possessed). So I had compassion, massive compassion for her. I had been her personal healer all those years. I had to get away for my own sanity though. The head of the nursing home told us that all the people in her section had had experiences of abused childhoods or of war. (as her stories started to come out and finally all the family were forced to understand what I had been saying to them. They had shot the messenger long before basically.) These things are so damaging to the psyche, I think the person struggles to cover-up until it wears out the mind.

I consider Alzheimers to be the "waiting room", where they can drop the personality, maybe the possessive entity leaves, they do not have to have the burden of the pain any longer, are free to understand before they leave the body/vehicle behind.

When you said the other day, "I am not a priest", that was familiar to me. People have come to me for comfort and answers many times. I am able to give them peace even without knowing why or how I have the right things to say. They want to tell me things they have never told anyone, confess things, tell secrets. Somehow, I know how to deal with it. Even while only briefly among the scientologists, one singled me out to be trained so I could hear his story (they call it auditing). I have found myself in public settings, holding people's hands and both crying our eyes out.

Oh yes, I went to a healing workshop with those guys, and we had to pair up. They said, you have been here and done this before. Not news to me, but I was working with someone who had had a longstanding neck problem, and I got flashes of him on a horse, jousting, you know, middle ages, with armor and then he was knocked off and I saw him with sword, fighting, on the ground. As the problem was releasing from his neck, one of the facilitators came up and, I think deliberately, interrupted. Sabotaged!

I realise I will be in trouble for taking the thread topic way off track! Sorry guys. Just a weirdo, here.

[kblood]

Probably you had some ancestor in your family with these abilities. The 'Gifts' are inherited trough your DNA that you'll transmit to your children. Sometime this hereditary character jump a generation like in some DNA diseases. I suggest you to document about your ancestors with your parents.

You really believe that psychic gifts have to do with DNA? I am guessing that there are "natural psychics", but from that to only those with the right kind of DNA to be able to use psychic abilities? As I see it, spirit and body is not the same. The spirit can have evolved in a very different way than our body as I see it. I have helped a few of my friends and people I know to experience psychic abilities, and it seems to me that everyone have them, but they are latent.

My perspective on psychic abilities is that I got to know most of mine from ghosts, and since they are bodyless beings, I do not see why their DNA should still be affecting them. Ghosts only seem to have telepathy and maybe empathy to communicate with, and I have seen a ghost affect our physical world. I have felt a ghost grab me at one time. Seems that it might have to do with when ghosts have not yet realised that they are bodyless. I have not met any powerfull ghosts though. No old "poltergeists" that have haunted some place for years or anything like that. Still I would not have believed as much in telekinesis and telepathy as I do today, if it wasnt for ghosts.

Seems to me that only a few got these senses or abilities is because we usually do not believe them to be there, or know how to use them. We are being taught from the beginning that it is impossible to break the laws of physics, and each year that goes on, I believe it gets harder to convince yourself that there is more than just the regular 5 senses. I found out very early that there was, and I guess that might be why I have experienced so many of them.

I recently read about "monatomic gold" or "the philosophers stone" which should enable anyone to use psychic abilities and become healther beings as well. Guess that could be a kind of shortcut, but could be a hoax as well.

[lilly555]

Simply put I believe that all of these quasi-awakened shows are put out their to fictionalise and pervert the true awakening that is going on. None of these shows are advertised as something that could really happen. No, it's image is fantansy/fiction thats the message behind it IMO. All of these shows focus on this stuff a bit, but then the rest of it is false script. Further perverting the truth of the awakening. Plus I'd bet that they have subliminial images similiar to the one already shown in this thread. The target audience most likely will be people who are into this kind of paranormal stuff and are possibly open to the awakening. They will be hit by these subliminial images and sounds that locks them in from truly ascending (or at least attempts to).

[serpentoffire]

You really believe that psychic gifts have to do with DNA? I am guessing that there are "natural psychics", but from that to only those with the right kind of DNA to be able to use psychic abilities? As I see it, spirit and body is not the same. The spirit can have evolved in a very different way than our body as I see it. I have helped a few of my friends and people I know to experience psychic abilities, and it seems to me that everyone have them, but they are latent.

My perspective on psychic abilities is that I got to know most of mine from ghosts, and since they are bodyless beings, I do not see why their DNA should still be affecting them. Ghosts only seem to have telepathy and maybe empathy to communicate with, and I have seen a ghost affect our physical world. I have felt a ghost grab me at one time. Seems that it might have to do with when ghosts have not yet realised that they are bodyless. I have not met any powerfull ghosts though. No old "poltergeists" that have haunted some place for years or anything like that. Still I would not have believed as much in telekinesis and telepathy as I do today, if it wasnt for ghosts.

Seems to me that only a few got these senses or abilities is because we usually do not believe them to be there, or know how to use them. We are being taught from the beginning that it is impossible to break the laws of physics, and each year that goes on, I believe it gets harder to convince yourself that there is more than just the regular 5 senses. I found out very early that there was, and I guess that might be why I have experienced so many of them.

I recently read about "monatomic gold" or "the philosophers stone" which should enable anyone to use psychic abilities and become healther beings as well. Guess that could be a kind of shortcut, but could be a hoax as well.

I can't give you the proof but only some evidences:
I have the 'gifts' and the ability to interact with spirits
My mother was clairvoyant
My wife has some 'gifts' but she doesn't want interact with spirits
The mother of my wife is clairvoyant and have experienced sometime electrokinesis effects. Other persons in her family had interactions with spirits.
My child is already showing strong intuition and ability to intercept our thoughtsI call this a bloodline.

I know that spirits prefers to possess people following the same bloodlines. Once a person is death they try to posses his sons and so on. I have a video of this concept well explained by an exorcist but it is unfortunately fully in Italian. Is there anybody that have time to translate it in English?

Why do you think that freemasons recruit new followers from their families?

Why do you think that black magic wizards and wiccas transfer their knowledges only to someone in their relatives?

Why do you think David Icke is so interested to bloodlines?

[asentinel]

We all have to come to our own conclusions based on our experience, but it could be helpful to listen and consider another's point of view and see if it matches up with your experiences in the future when you are alerted to look for certain flags and pointers. Just keep it at the back of your mind.

I have been drawn to people of similar heritage, I think it is a vibrational thing, and they have been to me also. It makes sense when you think about it.

By the way, my greatgrandfather on my mother's side was a mason, and I don't know about others before him. There is a strong connection to religion also, both catholic and danish church. It is like unravelling a puzzle. Even a little information is a big help.

I have had three strong romantic attractions to people who were quite charismatic and whose parent or parents also had gifts. It has been probably quite dangerous in the past for some generations to speak about such things and so sometimes history is lost. (Am talking only about bloodlines, inheriting certain skills now, not belonging to those organisations). Just think in previous times, you may even have lost your life, or that of your family. It may come to this again. We do not know. There have been others, but their history I am not sure of. Certainly I recognise friends and workmates who have these connections. It must surely act as an attractor field of sorts. Unfortunately the persons who have done the work to understand and investigate, or work with themselves are few.

Fear of having such connections can make people stay in denial, and sometimes as evidenced on this thread, fear of not being special, or in the club, can cause resentment and denial. It is a dubious benefit and much responsibility to negotiate at times. The New Age movement has done a lot to blunt peoples' discernment. It was designed to do so in my opinion. I agree SOF, an attempt to create another world religion to capture all the ones escaping from previous outdated dogma. They were leaking dangerously out of the clutches.

I even asked the administrator to remove my two previous posts the day after, because I thought I had revealed too much personal information. He hasn't as yet done this. SOF you may communicate anytime via email if you wish. I have made certain provisions to protect my identity.

I am getting more adept at recognising people carrying these entities. It is so well denied and covered up, it's an artform. The entities love to argue, cause disruption and emotional upset, anything to give them a payoff of energy from the victim. Sudden anger for no apparent reason is a give away. As is loss of memory of these tantrums.

Many mental or psychiatric problems are attributed to people with these entities attached.

They also find it easier to infest people who have ravaged their systems with drugs, cigarettes and alcohol. I consider, ditto for those addicted to pornography or gambling. You see all these activities provide a payoff, and deplete the energy system of the host. In my terms the parasite is the entity. The whole brain becomes rewired. There is another thread on pornography. What satanic rituals are these images enacting and mimicking? Consider also the effect of strong emotion and cursing/swearing. What attractor field? What are you invoking? In the history of language and culture, what do these angry words mean literally and metaphorically?

Be aware of all your actions and words and act with a clear purpose, knowing what you bring upon yourself. The best cover for something is to be deemed as a reasonable freedom for people to partake in. "Minimisation"!? Then it is politically incorrect for anyone to dare to deny someone else their little goodies. Many protest if a word is uttered to say, "no, it's not a good idea to do that".

See DVD Spirit World, by Chris Everard on UTUBE.

SOF re the gargoyle, the guardian, eg. like at the top of the Notre Dame Cathedral and others, I have seen something similar at the top, looking down at the end of a tube I have travelled. Beyond them was the black night sky full of stars. Another time there was a lizard/dragontype creature. I pulled myself/consciousness back into my present environment.

As always a very untidy thread happening here! All over the shop...

[serpentoffire]

Dead-on as usual asentinel