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tiswas
20-09-2007, 03:31 PM
I read this in yesterday's newspapers, it was a Zhirinovsky who said this regarding the poison trial and Russia's refusal to allow a key suspect into GB.
I personally feel it was the work of ganster's of Russia than the KGB. The gangsters are totally ruthless and are involved with the huge prostition racket of women. They are responsible for the bad vodka sold and all sorts of vile scams.
But the guy did go over the top with his rant, a Chinese polition said the same sort of thing regarding the British involvement in the partition of India.
Apparently, no Indian polition has ever had this kind of outbusrt.
It shows that Russia is still a force against the USA, by the way the skinhead element of Russia HATE Putin.
As for Great Britian , it has given the world many great things, the language, football, originality and trade unions.:)

december
20-09-2007, 04:53 PM
I read this in yesterday's newspapers, it was a Zhirinovsky who said this regarding the poison trial and Russia's refusal to allow a key suspect into GB.

The name of the key suspect is Andrei Lugovoi.

But!

He is "a key suspect" in the British media only.
So far the UK authorities FAILED to prove his guilt or provide ANY documents in that matter to Russia.

:)

Russia's foreign minister said earlier that London had failed to set out its case against Lugovoi.

"We have still not been provided with the [Litvinenko] case files and do not know what exactly prompted British prosecutors to charge him [Lugovoi], and obviously we cannot violate our laws, just as Britain cannot violate its laws," Sergei Lavrov said.

Lavrov also suggested that the British measures were a "test of strength" by the country's new Cabinet. "In many respects, it is a new-government factor," he said, adding that Prime Minister Gordon Brown could eventually find an appropriate tone in dealing with Russia.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070721/69405339.html




Russia demands evidence in Litvinenko case

25/ 07/ 2007
MOSCOW, July 25 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Prosecutor General's Office has not yet received a single document in the Alexander Litvinenko murder case from Britain, a senior investigator said Wednesday.

In an interview with the daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta to be published Thursday, Andrei Mayorov said: "We have not received a single document in the Litvinenko case. Technically, we do not even know what he died of, as unfortunately, we have received all our information about the Polonium-210 poisoning from so-called open sources."

In early July, Russian prosecutors formally refused to extradite former Kremlin bodyguard-turned-businessman Andrei Lugovoi, accused by the U.K. of fatally poisoning former Russian security officer and Kremlin critic Litvinenko in London last November, citing the Constitution.

Mayorov told the paper that Britain's extradition request contained general conclusions lacking proof, and that Britain had not yet provided the results of its Litvinenko probe.

Reiterating earlier statements on the matter from Russian officials, Mayorov said in the request that Scotland Yard emphasized the political rather than the legal aspects of the case. "A huge part of the document was devoted to what they call the history of Litvinenko's struggle against allegedly illegal activities of the FSB [Federal Security Service]," he said.

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown earlier denied his country was politicizing the Litvinenko case. "We cannot tolerate a situation where all the evidence is that not only was one person assassinated but many other people were put at risk," he said.

A row over the murder has led to Britain expelling four Russian diplomats last week and announcing visa restrictions for Russian officials and similar measures from Moscow.

President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday Britain's demand that Russia extradite Lugovoi and amend its Constitution to this end showed the country retained a colonialist mentality, the remarks, which will likely to heighten the row.

"What they are proposing is obviously a vestige of colonial thinking," Putin said at a meeting with youth organizations at the presidential residence in Zavidovo, about 120 kilometers (75 miles) northwest of Moscow.

Putin said London was still harboring 30 people wanted in Russia on grave charges, including tycoon Boris Berezovsky, accused of massive fraud and plotting a coup in Russia, and Chechen emissary Akhmed Zakayev, considered a terrorist by Moscow. Russia's repeated requests for their extradition have been rejected by London.

"They do not extradite people who are hiding on their territory, including individuals suspected of or charged with terrorist activities, but make serious claims to other countries and give insulting recommendations to change the Constitution," Putin said.

The remarks came following Putin's attempt last week to play down what he called a "mini-crisis" with London, saying he was positive the problems would be resolved.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070725/69670195.html



Britain wants Russia to break its law


This week, I was notified that four of my Embassy staff would have to gather their belongings and return home, summarily expelled by the British Government. This serious diplomatic move, and deliberate escalation of tensions, was in response to the Russian authorities turning down a request by the Crown Prosecution Service to extradite a Russian national to Britain. It has been met with the considered and appropriate reciprocal expulsion of four Moscow-based British diplomats.

In the fog of so much recent speculation and comment, let me make one point absolutely clear. The killing of Alexander Litvinenko was a heinous and appalling crime. Those responsible for Litvinenko's death must, without question, be brought to justice. It raises the question, therefore: why won't Russia extradite Andrei Lugovoi, the man wanted by the British authorities for the murder?

The reason is simple. Enshrined in Article 61 of the Russian Constitution, "a citizen of the Russian Federation may not be deported from Russia or extradited to another State". Russia is not alone - many other countries protect its citizens through similar provisions. Moreover, when the Russian Federation ratified the European Convention on Extradition, it entered a specific declaration - citing the constitution - to prevent the extradition of Russian citizens to foreign states. As a party to the convention, the UK both acknowledged and accepted this.

Prevented by law from extraditing Mr Lugovoi, the government has assured the British authorities on numerous occasions in recent weeks that any substantial evidence supplied by the Crown Prosecution Service will be used to pursue the case through the Russian courts. To most impartial observers, this would seem fair enough. Certainly the precedent is clear: In recent years there have been close to 200 cases in which Russian nationals alleged to have committed crimes in other countries have been tried in Russia. Those found guilty have been convicted and sentenced. It's difficult to comprehend why what works for Canada and Switzerland does not for the UK.


The British Government continues to insist that Russia extradites Mr Lugovoi and, by so doing, overturn a key provision of our constitution. The Russian Constitution underpins and guarantees our new era of Russian statehood. Drafted during the Yeltsin presidency, more than 59 million people - close to the entire population of the UK - took part in the national referendum which delivered a clear majority voting for it to become law. In reflecting on this week's events, few people in Russia have failed to spot the irony of the UK justifying its actions by citing the sanctity of UK law, while making the express request that Russia breaks its own.

The extradition of foreign nationals between nation states is a two-way street. Russia has requested the extradition of 21 people to face trial in Russia for a variety of alleged offences in recent years. These include Akhmed Zakayev, who is sought in connection with alleged terrorism offences, most notably the murder of 120 people in the Moscow theatre siege, as well as Boris Berezovsky, wanted in connection with charges of misappropriation of funds and fraud, including the alleged embezzlement of £4.2 million from the national flagship air carrier Aeroflot.

Russia is not alone; just last week, a warrant for the arrest of Berezovsky was issued by a Brazilian judge following allegations of money-laundering and involvement with organised crime. Yet despite the intense anger felt by many Russians that those wanted for grave crimes escape justice because of the protection afforded to them by the British state, the Russian Government has patiently and diligently pursued these matters through the correct legal channels. At no point has the Russian Government chosen to take action against the UK with regard to these matters.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/07/21/do2107.xml


Andrei Lugovoi

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december
20-09-2007, 05:42 PM
I read this in yesterday's newspapers, it was a Zhirinovsky who said this regarding the poison trial and Russia's refusal to allow a key suspect into GB.

Do you have any links?...

tiswas
20-09-2007, 06:24 PM
Yes, I trying to send attachments but it was in the Daily Mail of the United Kingdom on Weds 19th Sept.